"GH guts."

[Matt C]

?

[donrhummy]

I have two friends who have never touched steroids, much less GH, and have distention. 

I think more than anything it is genetic.  Or at the very least, you need a genetic predisposition in order to later develop a gut through GH use.

Just because you can get an expanded stomach, and thus distended abs, from other things doesn't mean GH can't ALSO cause it. And the reason everyone says Ronnie's is from GH is that he was a pretty big and muscular bodybuilder in the early-mid 90's and didn't have the gut/distention.

Also, SPECULATING that Gunter uses GH is not proof that GH doesn't cause distention in everyone.

[timfogarty]

it may be the combination of GH and insulin, so without knowing how much of each people take it's hard figure out why some have it worse than others

[DEFCON]

Ronnies waste is actually pretty small so his overgrown organs have nowhere to go besides out.

[240 is Back]

I wonder what would happen if supermodels and everyday hotties started sporting gh guts.  Imagine Jessica Alba on insulin and GH.  Would she still be hot?

[shootfighter1]

Happens a lot when guys get too heavy for their structure.

Multitude of reasons: GH, insulin, excessive carb up, huge meals, increase abdomenal mass from powerlifting movements...etc...

[timfogarty]

Happens a lot when guys get too heavy for their structure.

Multitude of reasons: GH, insulin, excessive carb up, huge meals, increase abdomenal mass from powerlifting movements...etc...

gh gut is when your internal organs don't fit in your abdomen, and since the rib cage can't increase in size, the only place to go is out your stomach.  this excess mass is either 1) growth in the internal organs, or 2) intra abdominal fat, that is fat between the internal organs.   excess carbs or huge meals can increase fat, but since these guys are able to get the subcutaneous fat to a very low percent, that's not the case.  huge meals stretching the stomach is not the cause either.  and powerlifting may increase the muscles of the abdominal wall, but it doesn't contribute to the increase of the volume inside

[bebop396]

Distended guts is a result of eating huge amounts of food..

[Bodies]

I think it's visceral water retention caused by the GH/test combo.

[timfogarty]

I think it's visceral water retention caused by the GH/test combo.

these guys are so dehydrated when then step on stage.  how could it be water retention in the intestines?

[shootfighter1]

Everything I said is correct. 

Competitors can have guts caused by several different variables but appear similar.

Over carbing or a large meal can absolutely do this.  This is very common among competitors trying to fill out too quickly after depletion before a show.  The increase in volume is the larger circumference of the stomach and intestines after a large meal.

It is also speculated that GH can cause water retention in the intestines independent of organ growth.  This retention, however, is not assumed to be perminent, as is the organ growth.  There haven't been a lot of detailed studies on this, just medical observation of side effects.

Increase in overall abdominal mass can be caused by more powerlifting movements.  Though, typically you'll see a widening of the waist instead of a protruding belly.  Still, it can thicken the adbomen in all areas.

Again, there are multiple variables.

[IceCold]

i really think it is guys being a bit too heavy for their structure but mostly due to carbing up and eating too much.  also, the bigger guys have everything else that is bigger, so of course their guts will be bigger as well.

one of the reasons why i think this is bc sometimes, guys like dennis james, fux, ruhl, ronnie, nasser, dillett came onstage sometimes with very little distention compared to their last performance.  perhaps they didnt carb up as much.  the fact that they can control this form contest to contest could make this possible.  i doubt they layed off the gh that much between shows to reduce the distention.

[timfogarty]

Over carbing or a large meal can absolutely do this.  This is very common among competitors trying to fill out too quickly after depletion before a show.  The increase in volume is the larger circumference of the stomach and intestines after a large meal.

if this was true, you'd see it in pics from athletes from the 1970s and 1980s. 

[delta9mda]

you can not post any gut pics without showing orville burke.

[honest]

12 weeks on 150 to 200 grams of carbs a day, then having to eat 1200 a day for two to three days will do that to you, your clogged up like a mother fucker, and you wont take anything to unclog for fear of flattening out

[donrhummy]

12 weeks on 150 to 200 grams of carbs a day, then having to eat 1200 a day for two to three days will do that to you, your clogged up like a mother fucker, and you wont take anything to unclog for fear of flattening out

Really, then why have I seen offseason pics of Ronnie with the gut? It should be gone by then (unclogged as you put it).

And while it's "possible" that the huge amount of eating might cause the guts, then why didn't that guy in the 70's (Bruce Randall?) -- who ate a ton and became insanely fat, after being a bodybuilder, getting up to 400 lbs and then losingalmost 200 lbs to compete again -- get the same stomach distention that today's BB's get? I don't think it's eating. (And don't tell me today's BB's eat more than a guy who was still weightlifting but got his bodyweight up to a fat+muscle 400 lbs)

[LuciusFox]

This all sounds highly scientific and knowing your nature I'm guessing you read this in a peer reviewed journal?

 Hahahahahahaha....don't bet on it

[HUGEPECS]

get over it, as long as we wanna see those Mass Monsters, there's always gonna be those oversize guts

[ironneck]

NarcissisticDeity posted this picture of Ronnie's gut in 1999.

Naturally I stole it.   



How is it that we are all so certain that it is the GH which causes the gut?  I'm sure Gunter uses more GH than you can shake a stick at and his stomach is flat.  A lot of other top pros have no problem in this area - e.g., Chris Cormier.

I have two friends who have never touched steroids, much less GH, and have distention.  My stomach is such that I can't either suck it in or stick it out.  It remains perpetually flat.

I think more than anything it is genetic.  Or at the very least, you need a genetic predisposition in order to later develop a gut through GH use.

wow ,dexter has a gut

[honest]

Really, then why have I seen offseason pics of Ronnie with the gut? It should be gone by then (unclogged as you put it).

And while it's "possible" that the huge amount of eating might cause the guts, then why didn't that guy in the 70's (Bruce Randall?) -- who ate a ton and became insanely fat, after being a bodybuilder, getting up to 400 lbs and then losingalmost 200 lbs to compete again -- get the same stomach distention that today's BB's get? I don't think it's eating. (And don't tell me today's BB's eat more than a guy who was still weightlifting but got his bodyweight up to a fat+muscle 400 lbs)

Stomach shrinks from eating low amounts of food, small meals all the time, then when you eat like fuck last few days your stomach cant expand quick enough, its purely a temporary thing, carbing on insulin is also a big influence on it, for instance does Dorian now hes 220 still have the huge gut, ? (no in my opinion )

[HRDCOR]

Maybe Ronnie just has a bad case of wind in that picture and needs to rip a HUGE fart to settle things down 

[Wombat]

some guys were using massive amounts of gh in the 80s and no real gh gut....When inslin came into the scene, so did the growth belly....Now alot of guys at the state level a sporting these bellies....

[Tombo]

gunter has a massive frame. the end.

[LuciusFox]

gunter has a massive frame. the end.

  That didn't stop Kovacs from having a massive gut

[CAPTAIN MARVEL]

oh my Lord
hey to those who claim that the gut is from eating a lot of food, you sound retarded