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Hamstrings
« on: May 26, 2006, 06:13:08 AM »
Can you build decent hamstrings not using or having access to hamstring curl machines

Rather, squats, hacksquats, lunges and stiff legged dead lifts?

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Re: Hamstrings
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2006, 07:06:49 AM »
Its not really a matter of what you have access to but how you stress the muscle during training. if you can keep them growing by changing stacne and keep working the muscle hard and rotate exercises so you do not become accustom then yes you can. new machines and cables and others stuff only make it easier for the masses. for many years barbells and dumbells were it so people had to make it work for them.take hams out of the process and say can you get great arms with only dumbells? same goes as long as your working hard enough to force your muscle to change and adapt it will work.

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Re: Hamstrings
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2006, 07:18:50 AM »
-Lunges
-Straight-leg deads
-Good mornings
-Hyperextensions

Various forms of squats only indirectly.

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Its not really a matter of what you have access to but how you stress the muscle during training. if you can keep them growing by changing stacne and keep working the muscle hard and rotate exercises so you do not become accustom then yes you can. new machines and cables and others stuff only make it easier for the masses. for many years barbells and dumbells were it so people had to make it work for them.take hams out of the process and say can you get great arms with only dumbells? same goes as long as your working hard enough to force your muscle to change and adapt it will work.
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Re: Hamstrings
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2006, 07:21:44 AM »
Lunges & deads will help, squats no.
WTF does this actually mean? ;)

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Re: Hamstrings
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2006, 07:22:44 AM »
There's nothing specific in what you've said in long form other than generalities & history about free weights.

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Re: Hamstrings
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2006, 07:35:13 AM »
There's nothing specific in what you've said in long form other than generalities & history about free weights.

the question was put forth can you...not give me a list of stuff you can do to build hamstrings without the use of machines or cables.if the question was i want to build hams but only have a barbell, then i would answer ok try x or y or sets of c...quick to cast the first stone are we not??

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Re: Hamstrings
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2006, 07:44:35 AM »
Just as with brittle that you won't let go of, you're obsessing because you're touchy. An entire paragraph just to state that weights are viable, when specific exercises were mentioned in the question..hmmmmmm..

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Re: Hamstrings
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2006, 08:06:53 AM »
Just as with brittle that you won't let go of, you're obsessing because you're touchy. An entire paragraph just to state that weights are viable, when specific exercises were mentioned in the question..hmmmmmm..

ok maybe a little touchy with you ill give you that. but he did say can you build with other exercise not what would you suggest i should do since i do not have access to machines....if you do not make people ask the questions correctly then everybody thinks they can just bounce in and out and post whatever stupid thing they want..wait that's what we do..nevermind..:)

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Re: Hamstrings
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2006, 08:26:47 AM »
SLDL and  reverse hypers. if you have a training partner you can do db lying leg curls

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Re: Hamstrings
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2006, 09:24:24 AM »
To fully develop the ham's, the function of the ham's should be worked; curling the heel up to the butt. GM'ings, SLDL's, lunges, step-up's (great exercise), etc all affect the stablization and muscle factor of the ham's and are execellent movements. Think of the ham's akin to the biceps, which both can function as a 180 degree muscle action, from the bottom (stretched) to the  contraction point (top). Not too many guy's with impressive arm do only stretching movements like DL's, hanging from a chinning bar only, etc to build those 19" gun's.

If you don't have a ham machine (either sitting, lying or standing)  but you do have a workout partner than you might try something like this. Lay face down on a high bench and have him/her hold the ankles as you curl the ham's up. Don't stop at just the 90 degree point , but curl all the way down and try to touch your butt with the heels. If your not use to a full contraction than be warned about major  cramping of the ham's. Go slowly, at first, with this manuel resistence exercise. Can also do one leg at a time, alternate each set.  If working alone, than place the heels under a stable  object like a BB, piece of equipment, etc. Some guy's will put a lose strap around the end of a bench and slide their heels under it and do them that way. Start from the kneeling position and let yourself down to the floor slowly. This is a somewhat advance exercise so you may have to curl yourself up to the starting position (kneeling) with the help of the hands, in a push-up style. After a few workouts the ham's should be strong enought to do the curling on their own. As you get stronger, hold a BB plate at your chest. Suggest that these ham curling motions be done after SLDL's, GM'ing, etc so the muscles are  warmed up and ready. Good Luck.

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Re: Hamstrings
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2006, 11:08:41 AM »
Thanks for all the help......