Night of Champions info just arrived in the mail

[fathead]

Why aren't Richard Jones and Alex Federov joining this thing?  Kamali and Kai Green should also join. They're gonna count the actual posing routines entertainment value as 20% of the total score.  These guys could actually do good in the PDI. Jumbo Palumbo should does it just for kicks.

[240 is Back]

RJ is finishing college- but when he does take the stage, it'll be PDI.

[kmhphoto]

This makes zero sense, Kevin. 

You acted loyal to the IFBB.  If you were, you wouldn't be touching any PDI event with a ten-foot pole.  Not selectively following your own rules.

I guess this is how it begins... it's good to diss the PDI while Bob and Shawn are here to see it.  But now that you can make a buck off it, you will help the cause you bashed.  Anohter month, you'll be telling people you've been rooting for the PDI all along.

I wouldn't expect you to understand Keith.
My opinions of the PDI have nothing to do with the IFBB. I still believe the PDI has no future.
The promoter is a close friend. The sponsor has a huge budget. I'm happy to help them spend it.

[240 is Back]

I wouldn't expect you to understand Keith.
My opinions of the PDI have nothing to do with the IFBB. I still believe the PDI has no future.
The promoter is a close friend. The sponsor has a huge budget. I'm happy to help them spend it.

Well, that is fine.  Good luck with it. I guess I see it as bashing it with one hand, then supporting it with the other.

Whatever happened this week, the mood is changing with everyone.  EVERYONE wants tickets to the NOC.  I'd put $ down that it'll be a sellout. 

[kmhphoto]

I'd put $ down that it'll be a sellout. 

Funny, very funny

[240 is Back]

Funny, very funny

ok, honest debate here- you don't think wayne will sell 1500 tickets to the first PDI NOC in NYC?

[mikediesel]

Kevin =  Another Hater jumping on the PDI bandwagaon.

[kmhphoto]

Kevin =  Another Hater jumping on the PDI bandwagaon.

Not at all.
It's all a fantasy!

THERE IS NO PROMOTER IN THE UK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[240 is Back]

Not at all.
It's all a fantasy!

THERE IS NO PROMOTER IN THE UK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Horton, I dunno if it's drugs you're taking...


....or drugs you *should* be taking....


but you're not making much sense tonight.

[kmhphoto]

ok, honest debate here- you don't think wayne will sell 1500 tickets to the first PDI NOC in NYC?

Wayne has an excellent track record in NY but it all depends on the line-up.
One things for sure. It will be a financial disaster.

[mikediesel]

Wayne has an excellent track record in NY but it all depends on the line-up.
One things for sure. It will be a financial disaster.

Kevin it's the NOC we are discussing not the Colorado show.

[kmhphoto]

Horton, I dunno if it's drugs you're taking...


....or drugs you *should* be taking....


but you're not making much sense tonight.

I wss just pulling your chain.
As you well know, there is no promoter in the UK.

[kmhphoto]

Kevin it's the NOC we are discussing not the Colorado show.

I'm aware of that.
Colorado was a great show.
Shawn and his team did a great job.

[240 is Back]

Wayne has an excellent track record in NY but it all depends on the line-up.
One things for sure. It will be a financial disaster.

You think so?  Have you spoken with Wayne about the numbers?  It doesn't look half-bad, actually.

besides, they're a private company anyway.  Many companies operate in the red for the first 18 months.  As long as the shows kick ass and the athletes get paid, what does it matter to you what their numbers are?  As they get more athletes and market share, the numbers will flip and it'll become profitable.  

Suppose the PDI does lose 500k the first year... prize monies are still there, shows are still high quality.  The next year, with all the new guys that jumped/will jump, PDI can make more in ad rev, ticket sales, etc.  Suddenly they break even.  By year 3, the IFBB is imploding on itself, and the NPC is losing big chunk of its guys to the PDI JV group.  Suddenly, they're up a million and the IFBB is way down.  

Kevin, why do you hate the PDI?  

[240 is Back]

As you well know, there is no promoter in the UK.

You are incorrect, Kevin. 

[kmhphoto]

You are incorrect, Kevin. 

Name him.

[240 is Back]

LOL...

Horton tried being quiet for 3 days, then sucking up to the PDI.  He was called out on it, then decided to flip like it was a lie.

kevin, we all know the name of the UK promoter.  He's a very well known man.  There just hasn't been an announcement yet, chief.  Oct 22, you'll probably be buying tickets to that, so you can mumble to yourself the whole show.  

[240 is Back]

Name him.

Why the hell would I do that?  Why the hell would I leak that?  Are you 12?

Tell me Kev, what have I been wrong about, regarding the PDI, so far? 

Seriously...

[kmhphoto]

LOL...

Horton tried being quiet for 3 days, then sucking up to the PDI.  He was called out on it, then decided to flip like it was a lie.

kevin, we all know the name of the UK promoter.  He's a very well known man.  There just hasn't been an announcement yet, chief.  Oct 22, you'll probably be buying tickets to that, so you can mumble to yourself the whole show.  

There is no room to suck up to Wayne, you and Keith have all the kneeling space taken up.
Odd that he doesn't want to reveal himself. Just like the sponsors

[240 is Back]

Name him.

LOL... so you can call him and beg for work?

Your fishing expedition for information didn't quite work out there, Whoreton.

[240 is Back]

There is no room to suck up to Wayne, you and Keith have all the kneeling space taken up.
Odd that he doesn't want to reveal himself. Just like the sponsors

Kevin, PDI is a private corp.  They have no duty to report that info publicly.  And in case you missed it, there is a sponsor list.  You heard of any of these guys?

[kmhphoto]

Kevin, PDI is a private corp.  They have no duty to report that info publicly.  And in case you missed it, there is a sponsor list.  You heard of any of these guys?

Odd that you respect the PDI's position on financial privacy but call out anything to do with the IFBB?

Monster list.
Odd that they have no Title Sponsor

Quick, Keith's finished, pucker up those lips for Daddy

[240 is Back]

IFBB is a nonprofit org.

Kev, you're not a good argument anymore.  You used to be interesting.  You had numbers and logic.

Now that the PDI infomation is becoming public, you have resorted to name calling and gay jokes about sucking up.  You read the sponsor list and proclaim "there are no sponsors", and you beg for info using 4th grade logic games.  You have lost.  

And in the end, you're going to die an obese Brit without the ability to choose his path in life.  End of debate.  Whoreton = PDIwned.

[kmhphoto]

IFBB is a nonprofit org.

Kev, you're not a good argument anymore.  You used to be interesting.  You had numbers and logic.

Now that the PDI infomation is becoming public, you have resorted to name calling and gay jokes about sucking up.  You read the sponsor list and proclaim "there are no sponsors", and you beg for info using 4th grade logic games.  You have lost.  

And in the end, you're going to die an obese Brit without the ability to choose his path in life.  End of debate.  Whoreton = PDIwned.

You too were occasionaly an interesting debater but now that you've sold out to the PDI your bias is so overwhelming that it's become boring. How many PDI sites have you now registered so you can gain favor with Wayne?
Name calling and gay jokes are par for the course here - as well you know -- but unlike you I have at least refrained from making threats about someones wife. Something you do too regularly.
I wouldn't talk about being owned if I was you when I'm sure a quick glance at slaveregister.com will show Wayne's name on your collar.

[lastrep]

lol, nice try. It's comments and negativity like yours that keep the sport stale. Thing you need to realize is that bbing DOES NOT please fans anymore. It's very stale, and visibly fixed. No need to go into the joke callouts/lack of comparisons of last years O, that is just one of hundreds of examples. If bbing to you is simply guys in "underwear" with oil then enjoy.

Once again, best of luck to the PDI. I am eager to see what comments come after the show is sold out and is a success? Probably the same comments we have after a major list of sponsors was produced.

 

excitment of the sport is not created by people riding on to the stage on large animals.

remember a few years back when the pros were allowed to use props.  they looked retarted. 

bbing will never be mainstream and it shouldnt.  bbin should just continue to please its fans and new ones will come due to their own interest from working out, bbing, etc. 

anyway you look at, most people are not interested in bbing competitions regardless of the pyro or whatever else you try to tease them with.  its still guys in underwear in oil posing on stage.

espc. with all this talk about steroids in sports, the last thing bbing needs right now is publicity.


one more thing about the price money. sounds like a lot of money for a show with a mostly non-pro's copmeting.  why would sponsors invest more in that show, then others shows, where the bbers are actually known?

also, people always bitched how bad bbing was in the 90's (besides the talent competiting).  same people always placing in the same shows in the same places.  the shows were boring and bbing suffered a great deal of less popularity from the 80's and 90's. well, guess who ran the bbing promoted many of the shows - DeMilia.  nothing against wayne, i'm just a bit skeptical about how something can suppossedly be much better with much less talent?