Flex Wheeler: "Bob Shouldn't Have Won"

[Stavios]

Are you saying Chick is hung like Michael Jackson?

LMAO !!!!!!!!!!

[ieffinhatecardio]

please dont ever compare yourself to flex again, thats like comparing william hung to michael jackson

As outrageous as Chick comparing himself to Flex is yesterday Shawn Ray compared himself to Ali and some people defended him.

 

[Danny]

Theres a good reason Flex is a photographer and not a judge...

I do however, find it ironic that Flex of all people, thinks I skated by on my proportion, symmetry despite being soft in the glutes/ hams..... Hmmmmm...sounds familiar!

I hate to say it  but Chick's got a point there .....

[bigdumbbell]

since i never read a thread with shawn in subject i was unaware of his claim  LOL 

[Scimowser]

i remember some years back, Chris Cormier and Flex went head to head in 2 consecutive shows which i believe were the San Fran or the Ironman and then the Arnold. Chris soundly beat him at the 1st show and then a week later he also had him beaten, but the judges decided to give it to Flex to most peoples astonishment. Whereas he might be right, he has no right to go public with an opinion like that when he knows all too well that he has had more decisions go his way than Bob ever will. Cormier put it down to his mystique and that was spot on

[Ex Coelis]

i remember some years back, Chris Cormier and Flex went head to head in 2 consecutive shows which i believe were the San Fran or the Ironman and then the Arnold. Chris soundly beat him at the 1st show and then a week later he also had him beaten, but the judges decided to give it to Flex to most peoples astonishment. Whereas he might be right, he has no right to go public with an opinion like that when he knows all too well that he has had more decisions go his way than Bob ever will. Cormier put it down to his mystique and that was spot on

Wheeler can say whatever the hell he wants - he's earned it. Besides, he was covering the contest - He's supposed to report on what he saw and how he saw it. This is MD, not some weider rag . . .

[Scimowser]

granted he has freedom of speech, but im saying he should be the first person to aknowledge that his name carried him at times

[dearth]

The irony of Flex (who won more shows based on the same things pro/con) calling the kettle black....

surely Chic you must be mistaken,
as Flex didn't win shows based on being an AMI employee, IFBB officer bb.com employee or a
manion stooge..

[gordiano]

Johnny Stewart looked like a mess by the way and he place what 2nd 3rd?

That's what I said back then, I don't know how he placed top 5..............

Looks like another Palumboism victim.........

[NotMrAverage]

Looking at those pics comparing Rusty and Bob at page.2 of this thread makes me wanna....yuck... Rusty looks great, compare their definition LOL. On Bob you canīt tell the difference between his biceps-triceps OR brachialis. On top of that...NON EXISTING shoulder separation, hello!? You can neither see a single cut in his legs from the side. Bob must be extremely sloppy in the offeseason. That is just pure laziness and canīt be blamed away.

And yeah...another "fun" thought. Chadīs corner is known for being big on diuretics and I have a hard time believing Bob doesīnt use any of them. Then think about Joe McNeil who doesīnt use diuretics at all with his athletes and heīs got the driest one of them all - Dexter.

[Sean-DeMarco]

Now, i wonder what Bob has to say about that.

...Who'll honestly care what Bob has to say about that?~

[nzmusclemonster]

Looking at those pics comparing Rusty and Bob at page.2 of this thread makes me wanna....yuck... Rusty looks great, compare their definition LOL. On Bob you canīt tell the difference between his biceps-triceps OR brachialis. On top of that...NON EXISTING shoulder separation, hello!? You can neither see a single cut in his legs from the side. Bob must be extremely sloppy in the offeseason. That is just pure laziness and canīt be blamed away.

And yeah...another "fun" thought. Chadīs corner is known for being big on diuretics and I have a hard time believing Bob doesīnt use any of them. Then think about Joe McNeil who doesīnt use diuretics at all with his athletes and heīs got the driest one of them all - Dexter.

im not a chick hater, and i know rusty has the blue collar battler appeal that many guys on here can identfy with, but he doesnt do it for me. so i consider myself a fairly nuetral observer on this subject and in those 2 pics on page 2 clearly show bob owning rusty.... to be honest it doesnt even seem close.

[Chick]

any and all can simply look at the video...why rely on pictures?

I don't hold any grudge or ill will to Flex...he's entitled to his opinion.

What I do question is why Flex personally congratulated me after the PREJUDGING, when he commented that it was mine all the way, and not close.

If you're going to make  statement...at least be consistant.

[ribonucleic]

What I do question is why Flex personally congratulated me after the PREJUDGING, when he commented that it was mine all the way, and not close.

Can you honestly say that you've never "over-assured" a competitor out of a desire to be polite or avoid confrontation? If so, hat's off to you. If not, you've answered your own question.

Besides, this is Flex Wheeler we're talking about, right? Not the most straight-and-narrow guy out there, from what one hears.

[Chick]

Can you honestly say that you've never "over-assured" a competitor out of a desire to be polite or avoid confrontation? If so, hat's off to you. If not, you've answered your own question.

Besides, this is Flex Wheeler we're talking about, right? Not the most straight-and-narrow guy out there, from what one hears.

I didn't ask Flex how he thought I would do...or for any feedback. He came up to me.

If he thought any differently, he could have said nothing...

You've got the wrong guy if you think I blow smoke up peoples asses...If people want to know my opinion...I give it to them. I don't think being rude or condescending is necessary...but the truth is better than giving a guy a false sense of where he is.

[Wombat]

Flex def. owned Ronnie in 99'.

Can someone who has it please post the comparisons in the 99 olympia between flex and Ronnie...I don't see what your seeing....Flex looks good and also retarded in that video...His bicep's are almost as big as he is wide...Flex is narrow and Ronnie makes him look silly...Flex has always been a lightheavy weight...And him trying to play the mass game is what probably cause his health...He was a balloon period...I'm just glad he came out and talked about all the oil he had to use to get where he was...Now looking at this video you posted, it obvious just how much oil he really used...

[thisiskeith12]

Can someone who has it please post the comparisons in the 99 olympia between flex and Ronnie...I don't see what your seeing....Flex looks good and also retarded in that video...His bicep's are almost as big as he is wide...Flex is narrow and Ronnie makes him look silly...Flex has always been a lightheavy weight...And him trying to play the mass game is what probably cause his health...He was a balloon period...I'm just glad he came out and talked about all the oil he had to use to get where he was...Now looking at this video you posted, it obvious just how much oil he really used...

Flex packed more MUSCLE on his small frame than Ronnie packs MASS.

[Wombat]

no not even close---the video's that should be shown are the ones of flex in the late 80s at the nationals i believe...He was a skinny light heavy...i saw one where he took 4th in (in want to say 89 but not sure) tiny joints for sure and was doing his splits back then..Had flex shaved into his head...He thought he was all that back then and let me tell you, 4th was a gift---fast forward like 2 years later and the guy is a complete water ballon....it was so obvious...Ronnie has blown him off the stage everytime since he has one the olympia....Ronnie was always a natural heavyweight and Flex was a natural middle weight...Flex was an illusionist...With his tiny joints, he looked much bigger then he really was...I wish he would come on here and tell the truth that he was never over 230 pounds

[LuciusFox]

Can someone who has it please post the comparisons in the 99 olympia between flex and Ronnie...I don't see what your seeing....Flex looks good and also retarded in that video...His bicep's are almost as big as he is wide...Flex is narrow and Ronnie makes him look silly...Flex has always been a lightheavy weight...And him trying to play the mass game is what probably cause his health...He was a balloon period...I'm just glad he came out and talked about all the oil he had to use to get where he was...Now looking at this video you posted, it obvious just how much oil he really used...

 Great post. People like to make a habit out of ignoring Flex's flaws.

[Quickerblade]

he looks shit in that video, bloated as fuck

[Rottmag]

Flex was an awesome pro in his day - probably one of the very best there ever was.

His reports, however, leave a lot to be desired. I've been to several shows Flex has reported on [I'm not talking about photos here, so please be attentive] and have very [very] rarely agreed with his views on the competitor's placings and their conditioning on the day. In fact, on several ocassions, I've wondered whether we were viewing the same show; that's how out of whack we are. I'm no pro - though I did compete as an amateur back in the day - but somethings are obvious to every and anyone. I have no fuggin clue as to what Flex reports on sometimes.

In fact, read some of the thoughts of the pros and gurus that Flex interviews at these shows. They are often featured on his column. Very rarely do these people agree on Flex's placings and conditioning of the athletes that he reports on. That, my friend, says a lot about Flex Wheeler and what he "percieves."

I've got nothing against Flex Wheeler the person or the bodybuilding legend [he is IMHO]. Flex Wheeler the bodybuilding "legend" was a supurb pro who - with his amazing physique - encouraged me during my amateur competitive days to strive for the very best physique I possibly could. I bet I'm not the only one he did that to . . . Flex Wheeler the person is a gentleman and would be more than happy to stop and chat or give you an autograph. However, Flex Wheeler the contest reporter . . . well, let me just say that he is more suited to clicking away these days at that camera hanging around his neck rather than putting pen-to-paper on that pad he carries.

I wasn't present at The Masters that this thread gist is about, so I will refrain from making comments.

[Wombat]

Flex was an awesome pro in his day - probably one of the very best there ever was.

His reports, however, leave a lot to be desired. I've been to several shows Flex has reported on [I'm not talking about photos here, so please be attentive] and have very [very] rarely agreed with his views on the competitor's placings and their conditioning on the day. In fact, on several ocassions, I've wondered whether we were viewing the same show; that's how out of whack we are. I'm no pro - though I did compete as an amateur back in the day - but somethings are obvious to every and anyone. I have no fuggin clue as to what Flex reports on sometimes.

In fact, read some of the thoughts of the pros and gurus that Flex interviews at these shows. They are often featured on his column. Very rarely do these people agree on Flex's placings and conditioning of the athletes that he reports on. That, my friend, says a lot about Flex Wheeler and what he "percieves."

I've got nothing against Flex Wheeler the person or the bodybuilding legend [he is IMHO]. Flex Wheeler the bodybuilding "legend" was a supurb pro who - with his amazing physique - encouraged me during my amateur competitive days to strive for the very best physique I possibly could. I bet I'm not the only one he did that to . . . Flex Wheeler the person is a gentleman and would be more than happy to stop and chat or give you an autograph. However, Flex Wheeler the contest reporter . . . well, let me just say that he is more suited to clicking away these days at that camera hanging around his neck rather than putting pen-to-paper on that pad he carries.

I wasn't present at The Masters that this thread gist is about, so I will refrain from making comments.

check out the masters video on Bodybuilding.com...Bob lapped the field...Johnny Steward took second and looked like a geared up gremlin...Pavol looked aweful from the back--although harder then Bob just couldn't stand next to him, esp. from the Back...Rusty Jeffers looked real good and should have been in the top 5...But he would have been demolished from the back standing next to him....

[NOYT4ME]

Theres a good reason Flex is a photographer and not a judge...

I do however, find it ironic that Flex of all people, thinks I skated by on my proportion, symmetry despite being soft in the glutes/ hams..... Hmmmmm...sounds familiar!

YEAH BUT WHO'S BODY LOOKED BETTER?

[ieffinhatecardio]

im not a chick hater, and i know rusty has the blue collar battler appeal that many guys on here can identfy with, but he doesnt do it for me. so i consider myself a fairly nuetral observer on this subject and in those 2 pics on page 2 clearly show bob owning rusty.... to be honest it doesnt even seem close.

On a serious note, if you really think those two pictures show Bob owning Jeffers and that it's really not even close than you simply have no idea what your looking at.

There's a reason Chick keeps telling everyone to not pay attention to the pictures and to view the video.

Because Jeffers is far better.

[ieffinhatecardio]

any and all can simply look at the video...why rely on pictures?

I don't hold any grudge or ill will to Flex...he's entitled to his opinion.

What I do question is why Flex personally congratulated me after the PREJUDGING, when he commented that it was mine all the way, and not close.

If you're going to make  statement...at least be consistant.

You mean the video that focused almost solely on you? You mean the video without one comparison shot between you and Jeffers? You mean the video that was so biased towards you that in reality the camera operators would have been more honest if they didn't even shoot anyone else and just focused on you instead.

You mean that video?