240 on Probodybuildingweekly??

[djohnsen]

We can get Ron to moderate- you can give me a mic, and give king or bob a mic.  Record it in mp3 format, and make it a getbig download. 

Not a bad idea actually, 240.

[Tre]

It would probably be the most listened to BB program in history.

Don't tell Kamali that.

[Lift Studios]

All you need is a phone line and it could be done in minutes.  No face to face, just facts.  It would probably be the most listened to BB program in history.

This is a sad day for bodybuilding - sad because it's most likely true. More people tune into listen to the bashing of one another then a guy who competed in the Arnold/Olympia and nearly died (week previous with Mike Francios). This whole saga proves that the vast majority of people are more interested in a Jerry Springer type of show then anything else. Much like the boards - threads that involve some sort of bashing blow up where as informative news falls by the way side.

[Tre]

He went on the radio show anyway and just lied.  Period.

That reflects only upon him, though, not you.  

With the exception of his fanbase, does anyone consider him to be credible in any way?  

And it's just no big deal, I guess.  If I was MCing a radio show, and a guest called someone a RACIST, I would challenge them to produce proof of this.  DId they? No.  Is this responsible and unbiased radio? You tell me.

It was a non-starter, Rob.  In general, the guy who made those accusations is considered to be full of crap, so you have nothing to worry about.  His statements on his broadcast revealed far more about himself than they did about you.

I'm not speaking for him here, but prior to the show, I believe that Dan honestly thought King would have something of value to say.  I don't believe for a moment that Dan knew beforehand that King would cry and moan for over 30 minutes about nothing.  

[Tre]

This is a sad day for bodybuilding - sad because it's most likely true. More people tune into listen to the bashing of one another then a guy who competed in the Arnold/Olympia and nearly died (week previous with Mike Francios). This whole saga proves that the vast majority of people are more interested in a Jerry Springer type of show then anything else. Much like the boards - threads that involve some sort of bashing blow up where as informative news falls by the way side.

Agreed, but the first mistake was expecting Kamali to be informative rather than entertaining. 

[Stavios]

it wouldn't be a good idea and here is why:

A lot of people who listen to the show aren't on getbig. So they don't know who 240 is. PLUS, I am sure they wouldn't give a shit about what a 29 years old out of shape web designer think about bbing

No offence rob but that is the truth

[240 is Back]

I'm not speaking for him here, but prior to the show, I believe that Dan honestly thought King would have something of value to say.  I don't believe for a moment that Dan knew beforehand that King would cry and moan for over 30 minutes about nothing.  

Imagine if john Kerry had gone on Hardball prior to the 2004 Election.  He goes on the show and tells the world that Bush is a racist, and that Bush insulted his wife.

What would Chris Mathews do?  Would he say "Okay John.  Next topic, ..."  Or, would he say "That's quite an accusation, John.  What evidence do you have?"

In order for BBing Radio to have credibility, it needs to demand that its guests are held accountable for their statements.  Otherwise, it's just national enquirer radio.  If someone comes on and makes a huge statement that trashes someone, ask them for proof.  Don't let his say "My PI has all that",  No, ask him to back up his words.

The fact that he was allowed to make baseless claims, with zero demand for proof, disappoints me. If 240 went on the show, and called King a liar, etc, I wonder if they'd ask me for proof. Hmm...

[LuciusFox]

Imagine if john Kerry had gone on Hardball prior to the 2004 Election.  He goes on the show and tells the world that Bush is a racist, and that Bush insulted his wife.

What would Chris Mathews do?  Would he say "Okay John.  Next topic, ..."  Or, would he say "That's quite an accusation, John.  What evidence do you have?"

In order for BBing Radio to have credibility, it needs to demand that its guests are held accountable for their statements.  Otherwise, it's just national enquirer radio.  If someone comes on and makes a huge statement that trashes someone, ask them for proof.  Don't let his say "My PI has all that",  No, ask him to back up his words.

The fact that he was allowed to make baseless claims, with zero demand for proof, disappoints me. If 240 went on the show, and called King a liar, etc, I wonder if they'd ask me for proof. Hmm...

  Why should a fake sport have legitimate media?

[Tre]

The fact that he was allowed to make baseless claims, with zero demand for proof, disappoints me. If 240 went on the show, and called King a liar, etc, I wonder if they'd ask me for proof. Hmm...

Totally understand what you're saying, but Dan's interest was in getting out of that as quickly as possible...I agree with his decision not to prolong that segment (and Kamali's agony). 

I don't think Dan is a fan of self-ownings.   

[Hurricane Beef !]

Yes... this is prob not a NEW idea. But... lets end this bullshit.
Get 240/Rob on the radioshow, let the man defend himself and
comment on his stupid(!!) posts sometimes on getbig.com
and off course the whole King Kamali thing.
It would be great to hear his comments on Kings stupid(!!!!)
remarks in the last show.

No chickensheit... no Bob is muting me(he won't!!!) bla bla bla.
Many pros, and other people is using their real name here, and
acts like real person. Now it's time for bigmouth, meltdown expert
240 to come off from the keyboard and on to the radioshow.

What do you think getbiggers??

Are you serious?

Anything that lends any form of credibility to that guy would be a mistake. Outside of GetBig he is not even known . . . could you picture what would go through the minds of the listeners . . . " who the hell is this guy pushing $300 web sites?"

This guy cares about no one but himself, no one. He claims his wife suffered from prank calls at work ( how did anyone get her name let alone her work information ?) and blames the people who did it and takes no responsibility for his actions. If he is as well educated as he claim he would realize it was his actions ( being an pain in everyones ass ) that caused his " wife's " problems.

Any adult knows we can't change the actions of others, but we can change our own. If someone in my life was being compromised by my game playing, I'd stop playing games.

Now, brace youself for the typical " I've calmed down . . . " bullshit that comes now. 

[Tre]

Beef - I have no doubt that Rob will be great on PDI radio. 

[Hurricane Beef !]

Beef - I have no doubt that Rob will be great on PDI radio. 

Define great?

It's a good place for him, the PDI and he are going no where in a hurry. They make a great " Co-Brand."

Hey, I've got an idea . . . Rob should bring his wife on the show so she can communicate the degree to which Rob's action caused her to get harassed at work. It might give us all some insight into what Barbra and King's friends go through.

The Beef

[ieffinhatecardio]

If he is as well educated as he claim he would realize it was his actions ( being an pain in everyones ass ) that caused his " wife's " problems.

 

This little rant falls along the lines of "every woman that gets raped was asking for it".

What 240's wife has to do with anything he's done on this message board is beyond me.

[Hurricane Beef !]

This little rant falls along the lines of "every woman that gets raped was asking for it".

What 240's wife has to do with anything he's done on this message board is beyond me.

If you have nothing, go for a cliche. Just choose one which is applicable.

That is the most foolish thing you have ever written. Where did you get your masters, champ?

The Beef

P.S. It goes with out saying most things are beyond you. ( I even used the same one as you. )

[ieffinhatecardio]

If you have nothing, go for a cliche. Just choose one which is applicable.

That is the most foolish thing you have ever written. Where did you get your masters, champ?

The Beef

Where's your defense genius?

Please elaborate on why 240 is responsible for his wife getting harassed by posters on a message board.

I agree, the analogy isn't perfect but why should 240's wife be harassed for what 240 posted on a message board? She had nothing to do with it? If whoever called and harassed 240's wife while she was at work instead called and harassed 240 what you're saying would be correct.

There was no reason to bring his wife into it, especially while she's at work. That's just wrong and 240 is in no way responsible for it.

[Hurricane Beef !]

Where's your defense genius?

Please elaborate on why 240 is responsible for his wife getting harassed by posters on a message board.

It's a result of his actions. HIS FUCKEN ACTIONS.

The Beef

[CQ]

If you have nothing, go for a cliche. Just choose one which is applicable.

That is the most foolish thing you have ever written. Where did you get your masters, champ?

The Beef

P.S. It goes with out saying most things are beyond you. ( I even used the same one as you. )

 

I thought his statement was very valid.

[ieffinhatecardio]

It's a result of his actions. HIS FUCKEN ACTIONS.

The Beef

You're digging your own grave there genius.

Exactly, his actions what do HIS actions on a message board have to do with his WIFE getting harassed?

[TrapsMcLats]

I know for a fact that the Bodybuilders would go ape shit if Dan actually gave recognition to an "Internet Geek/Troll/PersonLiving in Moms basment" (a) . The last thing these guys want is to have people living in "fantasy world"(a) become famous.

(a) Disclaimer: By no means does this suggest that anyone implicated in the above thread is in fact an "Internet Geek/Troll/PersonLiving in Moms basment" or living in a "fantasy world". Please do not mistaken for slanderous/libieous remarks to the afermention party.

1) So (not calling you out jae, just using your good observation as reference) how is 240 going on the show any different than bill plashke writing an opinion column and then appearing on around the horn.  He's not a pro athlete, but he has a platform (like 240 has his website and this website) to voice his opinion because he is good at it... As is 240 or anyone else who knows the sport well and can write/communicate well.  And what about sports talk radio?  Jackasses from all over the world call in and voice their widely varrying opinions.  Do the athletes in major sports worry about this? nope... because its just opinion.  

2) (on 240's physical appearance CONSTANTLY being brought up) I am tired of the bodybuilding universe saying crap like "if you're not big, not lifting every day,  not measuring your protein intake etc... you can't like bodybuilding."  I know guys in wheelchairs who love football, and they can't play it at all.  So they're not fans huh?  Its like saying if you can't do the 100m dash in less than 10.5, you can't like track or you have no credibility when talking about it.  

3) If the weekly radio show extended its hours and became a call in show as well it would be an improvement for everyone, more credibility when people are allowed to voice their opinion.  If someone other than the athletes rep was constantly on it would seem more credible as well... its like bush conducting his approval rating poll.  Bring the people into bodybuilding just as they've brought the fans closer in every other sport.  Bodybuilding is shrouded in secrecy because of its inherent illegality, but much can be done to give the fans and athletes better vantage points.

[bigdumbbell]

the only people who know 240 dont get out much

[canyoufeeltheforce]

We can get Ron to moderate- you can give me a mic, and give king or bob a mic.  Record it in mp3 format, and make it a getbig download. 

Completely unbiased, competely uncut.  Equal time.  Verification of facts REQUIRED.  In other words, you can't just accuse someone of racists posts- you damn well better produce them.   You can't accuse someone of trashing your wife- you'd better show ron those posts, king.  And you MUST explain why you thratened to bitchslap me repeatedly, then changed it to 'lawsuit' once you learned I'm an armed citizen who will drop you if need be. 

Fair radio.  Can it happen?

Why not have Matt there as well 240 so you can explain about the time you threatened to KILL him ? Last time I looked a murder was a tad more serious than a bitchslap .

I cannot see 240 sit in the same studio as Chic as he would be too petrified . I can imagine it now as 240's shakey crackly voice dies down to a whimper as Chic stares through him .

That is the real reason why this would not happen.

[ieffinhatecardio]

Why not have Matt there as well 240 so you can explain about the time you threatened to KILL him ? Last time I looked a murder was a tad more serious than a bitchslap .

I cannot see 240 sit in the same studio as Chic as he would be too petrified . I can imagine it now as 240's shakey crackly voice dies down to a whimper as Chic stares through him .

That is the real reason why this would not happen.

Yes, except we have this incredible invention called the telephone now. You should look into it.

[jaejonna]

1) So (not calling you out jae, just using your good observation as reference) how is 240 going on the show any different than bill plashke writing an opinion column and then appearing on around the horn.

Your right with all your points, its just that this sport/industry is totally image driven and room for intellectuals is minimal. I was tryin to emphasize the fact that the athletes obviously didnt get their money by debating and/or using thier brains (most of them) so when a guy like 240 makes some tides, then it always regresses to ..oh that fat kid who lives in his moms basement, or Have you ever stepped on a stage ?? An example : How can people talk about horseracing ... how many horses log on to GetHorses.com ??

[Hurricane Beef !]

You're digging your own grave there genius.

Exactly, his actions what do HIS actions on a message board have to do with his WIFE getting harassed?

You got me man, I'm out of my league.

You win

The Beef

[ieffinhatecardio]

You got me man, I'm out of my league.

You win

The Beef

How terribly un-fun of you.

Hey, I even admitted my analogy wasn't perfect. It's more entertaining to debate that not to debate.