ND, you defend Dorian to the death. He had two good years. In 1995, although in shape, his arms sucked and his waist was getting that blocky look. Moreover, his legs could not hold a candle to Ronnie, not even Jay. Face it ND, the sport has moved forward. Yates will be looked at like Dickerson is now in ten more years. Hell, Ronnie will likely be considered "average" size. Unless the powers that be wake up and realize that unless healthier looking athletes are going to draw more fans in, then the sport is doomed to size at all costs. Ronnie dwarfs Dorian and is more vascular and cut to boot. I know you hate his gut, but Dorian had as egregious a gut easily. Moreover, his legs, arms and chest were no match to Ronnie. From the front, side and even back it is not very competitive if you would open your eyes. You always use the records against one another. Well, when Dorian came back to Momo he didn't magically put on twenty pounds of muscle. He refined it and gained maybe 5-7 pounds max. Ronnie from 1997 to 1998 is not even close. He would have hurt your boy and continued to do so, if Dorian would have stuck around. That is a fact. Now, if you would argue 1993 Dorian then we are talking about a good show. Regardless, Ronnie has taken size to a new dimension. In ten years, there will be guys who make Ruhl and Ronnie look average. For instance, imagine if teh powerlifter Pud (the Polish dude) took up bodybuilding seriously.