Tim, Do you bodybuild, or compete as a bodybuilder? Some thing you got to realize, bigger is always BETTER. Usually, someone that says bigger is not better, is someone that can't put on size. Thats, like saying that a small package is just, as good as, a large package, and I'm not talking about a package you receive in the mail. I hope your not the person that says, " its not the size of the boat, but the motion in the ocean". (I believe that is correct way they say it.) dude. Because, if feels like an ocean, you may want to put your boat in the bay, or somewhere it will not be intimidated. lol, Just kidding, Your right in some respects though, If a competitor is sacreficing his condition, because he wants to be heavier weight on stage then ya. But, shape is God given, there is little you can do about it. You either are going to have a small waist, a great V shape, or great sweeps in your quads, or not. But one thing you can and what Dorian Yates did for years is get bigger and harder than the next guy. And that my friend is 95% all: heart, desire, good receptor mapping, and well... good underground supplements. I'm mean, that this is what we do make muscle....Train hard, TG