The Top Ten Lies Told by Pros

[MCWAY]

They charge so much because they have a huge marketing drive,thats what Im saying

How do you think MuscleTech got its huge marketing drive, in the first place? People forget that MuscleTech started with just three supplements: Hydroxycut (HCA & Ma Huang-based fat-burner), Acetabolan (ALC & Glutamine-based anti-catabolic supplement), and Creatine 6000-ES (creatine w/amino acids for better absorption).

Then came CELL-TECH, Meso-Tech, the prohormones.....you know the rest.

[MuscleMcMannus]

i weigh 240 and I've NEVER taken steroids.  i will gladly piss in a cup to prove it anytime anywhere.

   Piss tests don't mean shit bro.  Anyone can bulk up and look like QuakerOats.  But to look like a bodybuilder with 20 inch arms takes drugs for most people.  Hell I know powerlifters that are natural that have 20 inch arms.  But if they ever dieted down to bodybuilding shape they'd lose probably 2-3 inches on their arms. 

[karu]

I'll be more than happy to take a polygraph test (at your cost, of course) anytime to put a rest to your doubts...


Pro's don't bring up the drug issue for obvious reasons...thought that was fairly obvious.  They also dont give the drugs that much credit as it's a level playing field which pretty much makes it a moot point

I'm sure you would find a way to beat the test, if you were administered one. After all, cheating is part of your former noble profession.

IFBB Pro's are ashamed/embarrassed to admit their "accomplishments" come from a syringe, an illegal one at that. I agree with you on that.

Why do pros (their ghostwriters) talk about nutrition and weight training routines, if everyone has access to them? Isn't a moot point?



 

[gh15]

i weigh 240 and I've NEVER taken steroids.  i will gladly piss in a cup to prove it anytime anywhere.

first of all you dont weigh 240,,more like 220 -230 second your body fat % is high as in 15-20% somewhere there if i had to guess with out seeing lower back and abdominal section your body fat is somewhere at 18% ,,now this is not bad true but anyone can get there at 6 feet ,,220 230 18-20% is achiavble naturally at 6 feet but even for that you work hard as you can tell


now im not argue here on exact numbers but you are nio where low double digit body fat% and as van b said before your back point to the use of hormones before then again,,you never posted a picture where you body is seen relaxed the whole torso ,,then i can tell you to the t what you been on and if you ever been on ,,you can test me by posting a full picture,,i wil point you to the products duration of intake and doses,,i suggest you try

gh15 approved

[gh15]

I'm sure you would find a way to beat the test, if you were administered one. After all, cheating is part of your former noble profession.

IFBB Pro's are ashamed/embarrassed to admit their "accomplishments" come from a syringe, an illegal one at that. I agree with you on that.

Why do pros (their ghostwriters) talk about nutrition and weight training routines, if everyone has access to them? Isn't a moot point?



 

beating  tests,,,i only done it in the last 15 years none stop with plenty of bodybuilders including myself,,the easiest thing is to beat a test,,as i said before bodybuilders are better than doctores since they know what they take and how it works on their body ,,atleast the sucesful ones,,if not they hire the guys who do ,,

it is very very easy to cheat with oral products,,the half life in nothing,,then you got test suspension the favorite among anyone who compete in a tested show,,you got plenty of other products,,

and ofcourse gh is run in the system all the time,,how can someone tell you not to take insulin ? maybe you need it
? every one in america is diabetic ...,,bodybuilders are liars,,everything they tell you always multiply by 3,,

they say 1 gram ,,in reality it means 3,,,they say 6 units of gh ,, in reality it means 18

why would a bodybuilder that wanna be top and dont want high competition for limited price ..would tell you anything to begin with ?? this is very small industry and very few spots on the top ,,guys will kill for getting somewhere in this industry ,,lieing is nothing


you have tour de france skinny winner lance armstrong lie about his all wins there,,he was doped in every single time he competed,,and thats a skinny guy on epo ,,

200 5-6% 5'11 is hormonized,,PERIOD

i have quite the surprize for you fellas just to being you back to earth ,,,5'11 200 8% is hormonized too and to be real real honst with you ...200 5'11 10% is hormonized too:)
it all comes to duration and times and doses and experience in the gym and with the hormones,,

dont let any one sell you crap! you already saw what the bodybuilder look like when he is off for real ,,you saw levrone,,,you saw yates which is still on ,,you saw thomas prince,,you see the murderer,,you see it all white and black and black on white

there is abdolutely no diff between the professional and average joe BESIDE THE RESPOND TO HORMONES AND THE MUSCLE SHAPE and in today generation muscle shape dont count ,,only size and condition

gh15 approved

[DK II]

Fact is you'll never look like a steroid using bodybuilder naturrally.  Anyways your post makes absolutely zero sense.  You went from 189-210 in 1996 naturally.  Then you went up to 230lbs naturally in "late 90s"  THEN you decided to try prohormones?  Why at 230lbs and having gained over 51 lbs in a few years would you ever think you needed prohormones? 

I'll tell you why.  Because again it's EASY to bulk up and put on weight.  However, putting on solid muscle is much harder and takes a long time.  I guarantee you putting on 20lbs of weight during a semester at college is going to win you best abs of the year.  LOL.  I can put an inch on my arms in several months.  But the minute I start dieting I'll lose it just as fast because it was never real muscle to begin with.  I'm not saying your gains were futile or weren't solid, and more power to you.  I highly doubt you're as ectomorphic as you claim to be too.  Would be interested in seeing your progression pics up to 230lbs. 

great post!

[Figo]

try and demean someone else's accomplishments to justify your own failures.

 

[Chick]

I'm sure you would find a way to beat the test, if you were administered one. After all, cheating is part of your former noble profession.

IFBB Pro's are ashamed/embarrassed to admit their "accomplishments" come from a syringe, an illegal one at that. I agree with you on that.

Why do pros (their ghostwriters) talk about nutrition and weight training routines, if everyone has access to them? Isn't a moot point?



 

The offer is still open....tough to beat a polygraph test, especially with no notice. 

[New Hank Wood]

People who load up on Valium will pass a polygraph test everytime!

[Chick]

People who load up on Valium will pass a polygraph test everytime!

Not true...I worked in the court system and seen many people stoned, on valium, etc. still failed

[Stormspirit]

Not true...I worked in the court system and seen many people stoned, on valium, etc. still failed

there's one drug taht i know works, i believe the oklahoma city bombing guy took it and was able to pass his polygraph.

[New Hank Wood]

Maybe so.  Just know that if you can medicate accordingly to keep blood pressure and anxiety levels stabilised then anything is possible!

[Chevron427]

beating  tests,,,i only done it in the last 15 years none stop with plenty of bodybuilders including myself,,the easiest thing is to beat a test,,as i said before bodybuilders are better than doctores since they know what they take and how it works on their body ,,atleast the sucesful ones,,if not they hire the guys who do ,,

it is very very easy to cheat with oral products,,the half life in nothing,,then you got test suspension the favorite among anyone who compete in a tested show,,you got plenty of other products,,

and ofcourse gh is run in the system all the time,,how can someone tell you not to take insulin ? maybe you need it
? every one in america is diabetic ...,,bodybuilders are liars,,everything they tell you always multiply by 3,,

they say 1 gram ,,in reality it means 3,,,they say 6 units of gh ,, in reality it means 18

why would a bodybuilder that wanna be top and dont want high competition for limited price ..would tell you anything to begin with ?? this is very small industry and very few spots on the top ,,guys will kill for getting somewhere in this industry ,,lieing is nothing


you have tour de france skinny winner lance armstrong lie about his all wins there,,he was doped in every single time he competed,,and thats a skinny guy on epo ,,

200 5-6% 5'11 is hormonized,,PERIOD

i have quite the surprize for you fellas just to being you back to earth ,,,5'11 200 8% is hormonized too and to be real real honst with you ...200 5'11 10% is hormonized too:)
it all comes to duration and times and doses and experience in the gym and with the hormones,,

dont let any one sell you crap! you already saw what the bodybuilder look like when he is off for real ,,you saw levrone,,,you saw yates which is still on ,,you saw thomas prince,,you see the murderer,,you see it all white and black and black on white

there is abdolutely no diff between the professional and average joe BESIDE THE RESPOND TO HORMONES AND THE MUSCLE SHAPE and in today generation muscle shape dont count ,,only size and condition

gh15 approved

if Lance was taking EPO the french testers would have gone nuts on him, they hate him and their the testers, you clearly are a fkucing goose.

[DK II]

if Lance was taking EPO the french testers would have gone nuts on him, they hate him and their the testers, you clearly are a fkucing goose.

Sorry, but there are many many ways to conceal drugs in tests or pass the tests. Armstrong is clealry an expert in this. There are also form of EPO that aren't tested for.

He was caught with EPO a few times but always got out of it through a legal suit or other stuff.

Armstrong is on Test, EPO and god knows what all the time.

[Stormspirit]

Sorry, but there are many many ways to conceal drugs in tests or pass the tests. Armstrong is clealry an expert in this. There are also form of EPO that aren't tested for.

He was caught with EPO a few times but always got out of it through a legal suit or other stuff.

Armstrong is on Test, EPO and god knows what all the time.

isnt he allowed to take test cause of his missing ball?

[DK II]

isnt he allowed to take test cause of his missing ball?

i don't know, but that is the most ridiculous thing.

He takes a lot of medication "against" the cancer, i bet a few of them are good for passing the drug tests.

[Stormspirit]

i think lance would still win if everyone didnt use drugs including himself

[Captain Equipoise]

i weigh 240 and I've NEVER taken steroids.  i will gladly piss in a cup to prove it anytime anywhere.

LOL, 240 at what... 38% bf ??

in contest shape you wouldn't break 160

[DK II]

LOL, 240 at what... 38% bf ??

in contest shape you wouldn't break 160

It really cracks me off that some people never seem to get that.

All those 240 lbs natural "bodybuilders" that are fat permabulkers that would look like a stick at a good bf%. (not necessarily talking about Groink here)

[webcake]

I'm natural and i once weighed 242lbs...........

[DK II]

I'm natural and i once weighed 242lbs...........

[webcake]

Pretty much.......

[DK II]

here's what a 242 lbs natural looks like.

[Stormspirit]

here's what a 242 lbs natural looks like.

i was a 250lb natural bodybuilder with 15% bf max when i was around 17 or 18 years old, no abs but no lovehandles at all.  honest. i used steroids once but didnt gain shit except strength.

[DK II]

i was a 250lb natural bodybuilder with 15% bf max when i was around 17 or 18 years old, no abs but no lovehandles at all.  honest. i used steroids once but didnt gain shit except strength.

pics or it didn't happen.