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Author Topic: BEWARE OF UNDERGROUND LABS......... MANY ARE GARBAGE  (Read 10705 times)
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« on: July 01, 2006, 11:06:10 AM »

Most Ug labs are ineperienced and even potentially dangerous..... there are thousands popping up. Alot of times, in open source sites, guys seem to be more concerned about how pretty the labels are than the quality of whats inside. Thats stupid.

In my opinion, there are only a few UG that anyone should be ordering from, and those are private.... and have extensive proven reputations.

A word to the wise: trying to cut prices by buying UG gear may prove much more expensive in the long run. by the time you add in the costs of buying shit from a different UG because this UG hurts or is weak, you could have just bought a cycle worth of organon or norma or whatnot.

You also have peace of mind when you get premium gear to begin with.

For the record, the only open UG I would buy from is British Dragon, Eurochem, and Platinum....... and YES British Dragon and Eurochem are UG.... because they market only steroids and are NOT approved by the FDA.

I learned this the hard way.
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2006, 11:41:59 AM »

I learned this the hard way.

How did you learn the hard way? What happened?
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2006, 11:46:18 AM »

he's retarded..... there are alot of UG labs that are awsome....and how would you know if the gear is weak or not unless you pay to get it tested?

as far as the 3 you named they could be fake or underdosed? i know for a fact that one of the names you listed there gear is underdosed cause it has been tested.

but what ever everyone has there own.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2006, 03:25:23 PM »

he's retarded..... there are alot of UG labs that are awsome....and how would you know if the gear is weak or not unless you pay to get it tested?

as far as the 3 you named they could be fake or underdosed? i know for a fact that one of the names you listed there gear is underdosed cause it has been tested.

but what ever everyone has there own.

dude no one is fooled by how many posts you have made. It is clear that you are an idiot. The UG labs I named have tests all over the web that show their quality. As for the gear from the Ug that made me open my eyes, I dont need to have it tested to realize that it is messed up. It put knots the size of baseballs in me and 5 of my friends...

You are such a loose cannon with such poor literacy skills that you would argue when something is in your favor...... unbelievable.... oh and by the way, I just challenge anyone to go back and read your postt history.... dude, you catch your self in so many lies and bluffs that it is pitiful

get a life loser
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2006, 05:08:33 PM »

UGL's with good rep

1.British Dragon
2.generic supplements-probably the best but very hard to find-
3. couture labs
4.morning star labs
5. uspharma
6. pinnacle labs

theirs 6 right their worth buying- but yes- bigjohn is right be very careful- even the top labs have alot of complaints- just look at british dragon if you go to the website- they disscontinued their Test E- I found out it was because of several complaints- however many love the shit- cant please everyone-people have diffrent reactions-
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2006, 08:07:39 PM »

What about Gen-pharma? I am just about to start a Gen-pharma cycle and if there is anything I should know please tell me.
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2006, 08:45:03 PM »

GP is excelent!!

The guy is great!!

Great Customer Service!!



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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2006, 09:10:42 PM »

What lab was it that fucked you up John?
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2006, 09:16:39 PM »

Define fucked up
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2006, 11:18:19 PM »

I would watch out for swisher labs-his stuff is garbage- ive seen people get huge lumps off his sust-350 and his oil winstrol and numerous other product are all painfull and in general pretty shitty.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2006, 12:47:30 AM »

is gen pharma the same lab and PharmaGen  cause i have pharmagen its equipoise is pretty good
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2006, 05:22:47 AM »

I had a problem with GP's Sust, and he hooked me up very well with a different batch, and its good, smooth as shit. The next day all it feels like is "prop pain" lasts about 1 day vs over a week with the other batch...

The guy is great and will do what ever it takes to make it right.




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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2006, 05:49:45 AM »

Anyone used Hardcore Pharmaceuticals
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2006, 07:01:36 AM »

Define fucked up


I would say fucked up means the baseball sized lump on his arm.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2006, 07:22:20 AM »

I was using GP's Sust and I would have pain like a mofo the the net day and about 7 days after that.

Feels like some one hit me with a baseball bat.

It didn't prevent my workout just hurt, no swelling or redness, just felt like a really fucking bad bruise.
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2006, 11:22:50 AM »

I would watch out for swisher labs-his stuff is garbage- ive seen people get huge lumps off his sust-350 and his oil winstrol and numerous other product are all painfull and in general pretty shitty.

I had the same huhe lumps with a UG, I had to walk on crutches for a few days after a glute shot.... my ass had red streaks all through it..... I gave the gear to my friends who work in the chemistry lab at a University and they told me that the filtering of the gear was so poor that it was rediculous
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2006, 06:25:53 PM »

ws hardcore thechamps stuff??

if so I got some prop and it crashed...shit I make my own prop and it doesnt crash, gave it to my pit-bull instead

as far as UG I know some guys at SSB and SM and they realease there "goods" every so often and I get it from them and it is cheap, BUT some off the best shit I get at that price, I trust the hell out these guys and I blow up off their stuff EVERYTIME and I compete on an national level.

for example I am running CDV's eq and test ent with my omadrens and I am up to 260lbs
plus I sometimes get generic gh and it is always fresh(dissolves under 1 min) BUT like I said I built quite a realtionship with some of the guys on there so I trust them, that is what it really comes down to IMO Smiley



Kinda unclear on your post.. Are you saying you had Hardcore Pharm, and it crashed?
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2006, 08:35:11 PM »

what are some canadian ug labs?
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2006, 11:12:09 PM »

what are some canadian ug labs?

Illusion labs is canada leadin UGL. Herc pharm is also popular canadian UGL.
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2006, 02:14:55 AM »

I heard EuroChem is made in a bathtub in Ukraine  Shocked ; seriously, the owner is a Russian making it in a Ukrainian apartment.  Some locals checked out facility before.

I agree, not all labs are the same.  Very good point.

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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2006, 07:25:54 AM »

I heard EuroChem is made in a bathtub in Ukraine  Shocked ; seriously, the owner is a Russian making it in a Ukrainian apartment.  Some locals checked out facility before.

I agree, not all labs are the same.  Very good point.

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well he is doing a damn good job because the gear is smooth as fuck.... dude all the top chemists and science freaks at the University I attend and work are all Ukraineians and they are geniouses.... I gave some gear from a UG to them to be testes and they are the one who told me it was filtered by a circus clown and they were suprised it had any stability and that after testing it they could understand why it caused me huge painful knots...
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2006, 08:19:35 AM »

Illusion labs is Canada leadin UGL. Herc pharm is also popular Canadian UGL.

Canadian UG and Pharc. Labs.

Orbit
PVL
QFS
GenPro
Illusion
Syrus
Liquia - Tech
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Red Sea and there is another which I'm not to sure about.
The rest of good, but again they are UGL so always be cautious.
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2006, 02:35:15 PM »

John, What was the lab you were using?
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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2006, 03:57:22 PM »

I havnt had any problems. so I cant complain
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2006, 12:18:36 PM »

what about Golden Triangle China...... anyone heard about them?
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