who trains the hardest at your gym?

[danielson]

but if they're able to look their best and yet not train hard

their best still needs to be obtained through hard work, the finished product will just be better.

[candidate2025]

everyone has their own reason for working out, I just don't think that people with good genetics train any easier than the people with shit genetics, generally speaking, of course.

i didnt say that...i was referiing to this statement:

Some people like Sarcasm may be happy with 15% bodyfat and keep training like a piece of shit. But most people on here probably have some pride and train hard so they don't look like a fat piece of shit, like Sarcasm.

[Bluto]

no, because if they trained harder they would look better.....unless you mean their genetics somehow favor less training.

why is that

[danielson]

Lifting weights is not hard.

Neither is a little cardio and self control at the Old Country Buffet, but try telling that to Sarcasm.

[danielson]

i didnt say that...i was referiing to this statement:

Some people like Sarcasm may be happy with 15% bodyfat and keep training like a piece of shit. But most people on here probably have some pride and train hard so they don't look like a fat piece of shit, like Sarcasm.

yeah, i agree 15% bf is way too high, he is so damn gluttonous.

[Bast175]

Dieting is harder than lifting weights.

[danielson]

Dieting is harder than lifting weights.

Not to some people. I know a guy who is way too lazy to work out but he loses weight when his wife makes him diet. He's a nice trim 320 right now. But he was down to 240 at 6'5" two years ago, no gym, no walking, no job, just played Madden all day when his wife was working making 6 figures, cuz she didn't keep junk food in the house.

[Bluto]

playing madden isnt easy.

[Bast175]

playing madden isnt easy.

hahaha very true.  many formations to learn.

[candidate2025]

yeah, i agree 15% bf is way too high, he is so damn gluttonous.

NO NO NO...WHAT IM SAYING IS....YOU CAN TRAIN HARD AS HELL, AND STILL HAVE HIGH BF%...IVE BEEN CONSITENTLY TRAINING 7 DAYS A WEEK, EVEN WHEN ON VACATION FOR A YEAR AND A HALF IM IM JUST NOW GETTING UNDER 20 % BF.  NOT EVERYONE STARTS OUT WITH A SKINNY BODY. AND IM NOT GOING TO SACRIFICE SIZE, JUST TO SEE MY ABS. SO ILL LET THE MUSCLE BUILDING PROCESS EAT UP FAT, NOT DIET.

[Bast175]

ILL LET THE MUSCLE BUILDING PROCESS EAT UP FAT, NOT DIET.

what in the world 

[Slick Vic]

I don't know if it's so much training hard as it is to just making some noise. Ya know, like, 'Hey! Look at me!'.

[danielson]

NO NO NO...WHAT IM SAYING IS....YOU CAN TRAIN HARD AS HELL, AND STILL HAVE HIGH BF%...IVE BEEN CONSITENTLY TRAINING 7 DAYS A WEEK, EVEN WHEN ON VACATION FOR A YEAR AND A HALF IM IM JUST NOW GETTING UNDER 20 % BF.  NOT EVERYONE STARTS OUT WITH A SKINNY BODY. AND IM NOT GOING TO SACRIFICE SIZE, JUST TO SEE MY ABS. SO ILL LET THE MUSCLE BUILDING PROCESS EAT UP FAT, NOT DIET.

I hear you, yeah, everyone is built differently, I agree.

[Rhino]

hahaha very true.  many formations to learn.

Man that's funny. I went on a shopping binge and bought about 10 sports games. I played the new Madden once, and never played it again. That was 2 months ago, I just don't have the patience for video games like when I was a kid. I don't have a problem with the golf, pool, or racing games though, they're are easy to get into.

[Rhino]

I train the hardest at my gym. No one has ever trained as hard a I. Not even Viator man. I'm a beast!

[Bast175]

how does one train hard?  I train to muscular failure and I do as many sets as I believe are in the limit before overtraining.   You can't train any harder than that unless you want to overtrain so that's why it's a dumb question.

[Bluto]

how does one train hard?  I train to muscular failure and I do as many sets as I believe are in the limit before overtraining.   You can't train any harder than that unless you want to overtrain so that's why it's a dumb question.

yeah but as you know there's other ways of training and beliefs so that means its not a dumb question

[haider]

NO NO NO...WHAT IM SAYING IS....YOU CAN TRAIN HARD AS HELL, AND STILL HAVE HIGH BF%...IVE BEEN CONSITENTLY TRAINING 7 DAYS A WEEK, EVEN WHEN ON VACATION FOR A YEAR AND A HALF IM IM JUST NOW GETTING UNDER 20 % BF.  NOT EVERYONE STARTS OUT WITH A SKINNY BODY. AND IM NOT GOING TO SACRIFICE SIZE, JUST TO SEE MY ABS. SO ILL LET THE MUSCLE BUILDING PROCESS EAT UP FAT, NOT DIET.

meltdown!!!

[Bast175]

meltdown!!!

he did meltdown i agree.

[Bluto]

meltdown city

[danielson]

he's just a little chubby and defensive about it, leave him alone

[jaejonna]

NO NO NO...WHAT IM SAYING IS....YOU CAN TRAIN HARD AS HELL, AND STILL HAVE HIGH BF%...IVE BEEN CONSITENTLY TRAINING 7 DAYS A WEEK, EVEN WHEN ON VACATION FOR A YEAR AND A HALF IM IM JUST NOW GETTING UNDER 20 % BF.  NOT EVERYONE STARTS OUT WITH A SKINNY BODY. AND IM NOT GOING TO SACRIFICE SIZE, JUST TO SEE MY ABS. SO ILL LET THE MUSCLE BUILDING PROCESS EAT UP FAT, NOT DIET.

Is that fat people talk for "Im not training hard "??

[danielson]

Is that fat people talk for "Im not training hard "??

when he says"not everyone starts out with a skinny body", wtf? Sure, babies are born fat, hence the term babyfat, but I don't understand what he means? If he has been training for a year and a half and is still 20% bf, he shouldn't worry so much about keeping quality muscle, he should fire Vince as a personal trainer.

[pumpster]

for most part it's those teenages with bad genetics from what i can tell
the struggle is so much harder for them, they must really go balls out to get even the minimum of gain.

Bluto again with the bizarre logic...it's only the guys with bad genetics who train hard WTF?  That must be part of his excuse for taking it easy.

Anyone who wants to maximize their potential should train hard-to failure and occasionally beyond failure. Simple.

[Farcry]

ronnie probably the best genetics in bb today and he trains harder than anyone else.