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Between you and me, I know a bit about DEA warrants......
 They will watch you for years ( 4 in my case). Since 911 they can get a warrant very easy...in my case for 120 tabs of clomid they intercepted coming from England. No controlled delivery, no evidence except "suspicion". This was a joint effort with the local PD, County DEA, Federal Postal Inspectors. I was followed, got cell phone calls, hit up in the gym for juice, ect. for years before my raid. I had a ton of juice in my home so they went Federal to try to make it stick big. I was associated with a couple of *** players  When the procecutions discovery papers were sent to my lawyer, I was shocked at the detail and length of time the watched me, and the numerous overseas packages they documented and photographed over the years. I was EXTREAMLY careful, not some nickle and dime gym dealer but they were better. They DO carefully monitor message boards and watched me for years on Elitefitness. Contrary to many peoples beliefs, the boards are closely watched and I know of a moderator on a board who is actually DEA. I learned quite a bit about how they operate during my court process and they are not as ignorant as we want to think they are. Now with that said, they do not have the time or the resouces to go after personal use quantities...you will usually get a seizure letter and that will be the end of it unless you continue to have things sent. Once you get a seizure letter, your addy and name is flagged and future packages will be checked....in my case that is all they needed.


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Given the current political situation and recent legislature, the 4th amendment NO LONGER REQUIRES "probable cause".  Only "reasonable suspicion" is now required.

Is the statement above considered "reasonable suspicion"?

Do you have a reasonable belief that the author is a terrorist?

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Do you have a reasonable belief that the author is a terrorist?

No.  But I strongly believe the use of this newly available information and govt powers will, if they haven't already, be used for purposes beyond terrorism research. 

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I'm a libertarian and I"m no snitch - i believe everything should be legalized, period.  But as a hypothetical, is such a statement enough to get one searched?  And if so, is there precedent for this happeneing?

I'm just curious ??? Was it a hypothetical when you threatened to go to the dea during your major meltdown???  Obviously it's stupid for someone to say this stuff on a board, but what's it saying about you tying to highlight it like a beacon and underlining you're not a snitch while doing it ???

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Do you have a reasonable belief that the author is a terrorist?
thank you for asking this...

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I'm just curious ??? Was it a hypothetical when you threatened to go to the dea during your major meltdown???  Obviously it's stupid for someone to say this stuff on a board, but what's it saying about you tying to highlight it like a beacon and underlining you're not a snitch while doing it ???

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Contrary to many peoples beliefs, the boards are closely watched and I know of a moderator on a board who is actually DEA.



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The mod I know working with DEA resides in Canada.  And he is not a DEA agent rather just a general mountie lackey doing a desk job.

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there are many dedicated, hard working, loyal, patriotic, taxpaying, law abiding citizens who happen to be agents.  the history of the united states is filled with such patriots. i'm sorry if you're on the losing side.

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there are many dedicated, hard working, loyal, patriotic, taxpaying, law abiding citizens who happen to be agents.  the history of the united states is filled with such patriots. i'm sorry if your on the losing side.
Could you expand on that please ;D

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Ron, have you ever been supenaed (sp?) for info, ISP addresses, etc?
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Ron, have you ever been supenaed (sp?) for info, ISP addresses, etc?

this is called privileged information and a protected right under the constitution

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there are many dedicated, hard working, loyal, patriotic, taxpaying, law abiding citizens who happen to be agents.  the history of the united states is filled with such patriots. i'm sorry if you're on the losing side.

Someone working for the DEA, fighting the "drug war" in not a patriot, but an oppressor.

I have respect for regular cops, who work hard to arrest violent criminals, burglers, rapists, etc, but DEA agents and the like are nothing more than idiots who get off on fuccking with people, and have found a career that allows them to do it legally.  >:(
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No.  But I strongly believe the use of this newly available information and govt powers will, if they haven't already, be used for purposes beyond terrorism research. 



hey, 240, what happened to your friend, SHAWN RAY. he stop posting here all together
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reasonable suspicion is true...it all depends on where you're at...


this is there the ethics of the law come into play...if you see a black man in a local crack district of town...you could be reasonably suspicious that he's holding? even if you've never seen him do it or make a buy, etc.?


now if you post on a message board that says "HEY I JUST BOUGHT A GRAM OF TEST"


i don't see how reasonable suspicion would really matter then..  ;D 

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this is called privileged information and a protected right under the constitution

Sorry, I meant to phase the question in a way that was more "if you feel like answering".  Certainly not a demand by any means...
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Someone working for the DEA, fighting the "drug war" in not a patriot, but an oppressor.

I have respect for regular cops, who work hard to arrest violent criminals, burglers, rapists, etc, but DEA agents and the like are nothing more than idiots who get off on fuccking with people, and have found a career that allows them to do it legally.  >:(

then get the legislature to change the law or the executive to issue a proclamation...until such time, sorry charlie

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I"m no snitch

No offense bro, but....

What about that Tsinkorang drama?

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No offense bro, but....

What about that Tsinkorang drama?

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I PMed him and told him I'd post that /gif if he ass kept posting bad stuff about my work- the guy kept bashing my web design work, referring everyone to a competitor with whom he worked.  He laughed about it and dared me to do it.  And he had the option of deleting his comments (messing with my ability to earn) and I would delete that pic (messing with his ability to win shows).   he declined.

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I PMed him and told him I'd post that /gif if he ass kept posting bad stuff about my work- the guy kept bashing my web design work, referring everyone to a competitor with whom he worked.  He laughed about it and dared me to do it.  And he had the option of deleting his comments (messing with my ability to earn) and I would delete that pic (messing with his ability to win shows).   he declined.

Ok.

.gif? That most muscular? Or something like that?

But what about this shit that you were threatening with the DEA?

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Ok.

.gif? That most muscular? Or something like that?

But what about this shit that you were threatening with the DEA?

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Oh I was just talking shit after the dude posted my wife's info.  Hoping he'd back off.  My emotion took over, seeing her info up there.   Obviously he's in CAN and just a personal user, so it was an unrealstic statement... but the guy put my wife in it... what a POS...

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240  you were a bigger jerk than matt was

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In Canada, roids and pot are pretty well legal.

Intelligent government.  Yeah, we have that midget Harper in power now, but it's a minority government if he steps on the toes of the hippie liberals, he's done.

Basically letting people get away with use of these drugs is the government's way of saying that they know it's wrong for them to be illegal to begin with, but it's even worse for the government to admit being wrong.  So they are technically illegal substances that aren't really actively fought.

My friend was caught with a quarter pound of marijuana last week and a scale and the cops just took it away lol.  Probably to smoke it honestly.  :-\

Better than serving jail time which would be almost a guarantee in the US for that much grass.

Going to jail for having a safe plant that makes you happy.  Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.  ???


 Apparently you haven't seen "Reefer Madness" ;D

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Oh I was just talking shit after the dude posted my wife's info.  Hoping he'd back off.  My emotion took over, seeing her info up there.   Obviously he's in CAN and just a personal user, so it was an unrealstic statement... but the guy put my wife in it... what a POS...
And didn't you set the standard by posting info on Bast's sister?  And didn't you refer to QUOTE: "some friends" of yours at the DEA??? 

Oh and is this snitching ??? :
"I can make a website about your drug use, send it to every NPC judge in the country, and take it to the next level."--240
"...now, thanks to his own doing, many NPC judges are looking at his pic, page, and request for drug advice."--240

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And didn't you set the standard by posting info on Bast's sister?  And didn't you refer to QUOTE: "some friends" of yours at the DEA??? 

Oh and is this snitching ??? :
"I can make a website about your drug use, send it to every NPC judge in the country, and take it to the next level."--240
"...now, thanks to his own doing, many NPC judges are looking at his pic, page, and request for drug advice."--240

1)  bast doesn't even have a sister, jackass.

2) fuck mattT.  The guy had the audacity to try to get inside a man's marriage.  I would slap the piss out of him in person, and I don't think anyone here doubts that.