Request for GETITONY, aka John D.

[GetItOnNY]

Castor Troy , I really like ZMA its a great product for sleep and recovery.You dont have to use the SNAC brand you can use ISS or Twin Lab which are also very good brands.
As far aas multi-Vitamins go , dont use GNC Vitamins, use a whole food vitamin.The one I use is called ALIVE by a company by the name of NATURES WAY .A whole foods vitamin is made from food, its not synthetic like most vitamins.The body knows wether something is natural or synthetic, and if its synthetic, your body will just urinate them out

[Croatch]

IF YOU USE STEROIDS OR ARE THINKING ABOUT USING STEROIDS PLEASE READ THIS.Now I amo not trying to preach to you guys, I am just trying to give you a little insight.I just found out a friend of mine who was only 28 years old died a couple of days ago in his sleep from a heart attack caused by steroid use.He was found dead by his fiance ,who he was going to marry this summer.The guy did use alot of anabolics, and was only his second cycle .With this being said if you are using anabolics, or thinking about using anabolics please to the following.Get blood work ever 3 to months and monitor your CHOLESTEROL LEVELS to make sure they dont get to high.Also keep an eye on you liver enzymers especially if your using an oral anabolic.NOW THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE ,CHECK IT 2-3 TIMES A WEEK!!!!.Go to the local drug store, like Walmart, or if you have to buy a kit to test your own blood pressure.It only takes 2 minutes and can save your life.When I was on my last cycle getting ready for the USA last year, my blood pressure went from 70 over 120 to very high  95 over 160 and I wasnt using that much gear.Testosterone especially raises blood pressure, and cholesterol, and is what can cause heart failure.So when your on a cycle monitor your self or you can wind up like my friend dead at 28 years old.

Sorry to hear that.  Did he go to your gym as well?

[GetItOnNY]

Croatch no he didnt he lived in LA.They guy didnt even use that much gear.The sad part is he a a great job, a beutiful fiance, and he had alot going for him.Unfortunatly he wasnt one of the lucky ones.There are people who use cocaine,, steroids, and other drugs for years and live long lives.Then you have guys like my friend who just use 2 cycles and die of a heart attack.He didnt drink, smoke, nad never even tried any type of drug, including pot.My point is sometimes in life you have to be careful, and if you are do any type of drug, know that there can be cosequences

[ReEvolution]

i doubt it was the steroid cycles.  but I'm sorry for the loss of your friend.

[castor troy]

Sorry for the loss of your friend.

[schwarzenpecker]

IF YOU USE STEROIDS OR ARE THINKING ABOUT USING STEROIDS PLEASE READ THIS.Now I amo not trying to preach to you guys, I am just trying to give you a little insight.I just found out a friend of mine who was only 28 years old died a couple of days ago in his sleep from a heart attack caused by steroid use.He was found dead by his fiance ,who he was going to marry this summer.The guy did use alot of anabolics, and was only his second cycle .With this being said if you are using anabolics, or thinking about using anabolics please to the following.Get blood work ever 3 to months and monitor your CHOLESTEROL LEVELS to make sure they dont get to high.Also keep an eye on you liver enzymers especially if your using an oral anabolic.NOW THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE ,CHECK IT 2-3 TIMES A WEEK!!!!.Go to the local drug store, like Walmart, or if you have to buy a kit to test your own blood pressure.It only takes 2 minutes and can save your life.When I was on my last cycle getting ready for the USA last year, my blood pressure went from 70 over 120 to very high  95 over 160 and I wasnt using that much gear.Testosterone especially raises blood pressure, and cholesterol, and is what can cause heart failure.So when your on a cycle monitor your self or you can wind up like my friend dead at 28 years old.

How do you know the heart attack was caused by steroid use. Did he already have a heart condition?

[GetItOnNY]

No the guy didnt have a existing heart condition, the autphosy revealed that steroids did cause him to have a heart attack in his sleep.The LA Cornoner did a full investigation, because he was in perfect health so it was very odd for such a young to die of a heart attack.

[GetItOnNY]

The bottom line is simple if you use steroids, then use your brain, and do it right or dont do it at all.Get blood work done every 3 months, and monitor your blood pressure 2-3 times a wekk

[GetItOnNY]

Well lets keep this thread going, but from now on lets keep it positive fellas

[castor troy]

Hey John, is it absolutely necessary to take ZMA on empty stomach.  Some nights i get so hungry that i eat a chicken breast before i sleep but then that chicken is in my stomach so i wait about 1-2 hour + until i get zma but then by that time i might want a shake cuz i get hungry again but at the same time im also sleepy so i dont know what to do its such a pain to wait until u have empty stomach to take zma because u get hungry and u dont want to go into sleep catabolic.  but if u take take time releasing slow digesting protein at night then when should u take zma? im confused aobut the timing. ok thanks.

[El Guapo]

John I see that some companies sell glutamine peptides( german pharmaceuticals for example) is this as effective as regular glutamine? Also, what doses of glutamine do you recommend for women?Thanks.

leo

[GetItOnNY]

Castor you can take ZMA about 20 minutes after you have a protein shake before you go to bed.I wouldnt take if within an hour and a half of food such as chicken.Most protein especially Whey Protein Isolates digest very rapidly ,so it wont interfere with the ZMA .Make sure you take a table spoon of L-Glutamine before bed as well

[GetItOnNY]

El Guapo I know some companies push the hell out of L-Glutamine Peptides, but I think they are some what overated.L-Glutamine Peptides are made from Gluten,which comes from Wheat.There are alot of people who alergic to gluten, so you have to be careful.I think if you took Fermented L-Glutamine and it contained L-Glutamine Peptides it would be a little more effective then Just L-Glutamine alone.But if I had to chose between taking Fermented L-Glutamine or L-Glutamine peptides, I would take the Fermented L-Glutamine .If you can find a product that contains both of those ingredients, it will work well.
As far a women and L-Glutamine goes, it depends on how much she weighs, how hard she trains, and what kinf of excersizes is she doing( running, lifting ,cardio, aerobics, or spin classes) then we can determine how much L-Glutamine she needs per day.If she is failry acxtive in the gym, and works out I would say a minimum would be 20 -25 grams a day.Which would be 5 teaspoons

[castor troy]

Hey John, is there a need to take extra glutamine when protein shakes like Optimum Nutrition Whey Isolate already have them inside each scoop. I think about 5 grams per scoop.

[GetItOnNY]

Castor, I dont know But I doubt Optimums Whey Isolate has 5 grams of L-Glutamine per scoop, double check that okay.It probably has 5 grams per 2 scoops.I personally an a very big believer in L-Glutamine , I think it is the most over looked supplement on the market.Depending on your size you should be getting in about 40 to 60 grams of L-Glutamine per day.So find out how much L-Glutamine you are getting from the amount of protein shakes your taking per day.Then total it up.If its under the amount of L-Glutamine I recommended then go buy some fermented L-Glutamine.A teaspoon of L-Glutamine if it has no filllers should be right at 5 grams .The most important times to take L-Glutamine is right after training and before bed.Take 10 grams right after training, and another 10 grams right before bed.This is when the body needs L-Glutamine the most, and it will absorb it like a sponge

[sarcasm]

Castor, I dont know But I doubt Optimums Whey Isolate has 5 grams of L-Glutamine per scoop, double check that okay.It probably has 5 grams per 2 scoops.I personally an a very big believer in L-Glutamine , I think it is the most over looked supplement on the market.Depending on your size you should be getting in about 40 to 60 grams of L-Glutamine per day.So find out how much L-Glutamine you are getting from the amount of protein shakes your taking per day.Then total it up.If its under the amount of L-Glutamine I recommended then go buy some fermented L-Glutamine.A teaspoon of L-Glutamine if it has no filllers should be right at 5 grams .The most important times to take L-Glutamine is right after training and before bed.Take 10 grams right after training, and another 10 grams right before bed.This is when the body needs L-Glutamine the most, and it will absorb it like a sponge

[Wombat]

Ladies and gents i say this to you.....Lyle Alzado certainly DO NOT DIE FROM STEROIDS...And getitonny's buddy did not die from steroids after two cycles....Their has not been one documented case anywhere that states hormones have been the direct cause of anyone's death...Not one...Sure their is news clippings--tv broadcasts and even parents who went to congress blaming steroids for killing there kid..But none of its true...

I will also say this to you ...Arnold didn't need creatine or L-glutamine or even Whey protein and guess what, neither do you...

[littleguns]

John,

Again on behalf of everyone, thanks soo much for your time and wisdom..you are a gentlemen and a scholar..

You mentioned MHP as a good company. Any other companies you have high regards for?

For any of the natural getbiggers I have condensed alot of John's writings, supplement recommendation etc. If you want a copy, PM me and I'll email it to you...

[littleguns]

John,

I am very big into supplements and wanted to ask....

You talk very highly of Glutamine.Do you really think it is necessary to supplement with it since it is a non-essential amino acid. If one takes in lets say 2-3 gms of Protein Per pound of BW, there should be enough building blocks to make the necessary Glutamine. I would think additional supplementation would make for a very expensive urine stream....

[GetItOnNY]

Wombat , First of all they didnt have a Whey Protein Isolate, L-Glutamine, Creatine , or any of the supplments they have today back when Arnold was competeing.I have heard Arnold say his exact words were" body builders have it easier today, they have good supplements, and you can ever go to a health food store and grab a ready to drink protein in a can.Back in the day we had to eat tuna out of a can go to extremes just to get our food in for the day.
I myself started training in 1986 and even back then there wasnt a protein powder that wouldnt bloat you and give you the runs.Plus all they had was amino acid tablets and liver pills .So trust me bodybuilders have it alot easier these days.I know alot of pro bodybuilders such as Gustavo, Troy Alves, Art Atwood, Toney Freeman ,Jay Cutler Will Harris ,Gunther,and Craig Titus.Guess what they all drink protein powder, use L-Glutamine, and about half of them use Creatine .They may not use the company they endoses products, but they do use supplements

As far a anabolics killing people, yes they can.Anabolics ,especially raises blood pressure, cholesterol and can cause an artithemia , which is alterted heart contrations.When you raise blood pressure, and your cholesterol is raised, plus an arithemia happens, this is what causes heart failure.I have nothing against stroid use, but to think they cant cause a heart attack you need to get real.Steroid use did cause me to have high blood pressure, and high cholesterol, which is something I never had before using steroids.Now that I have been off of them  about a year my cholesterol is low, and so is my blood pressure.If you look at any autophosy from the the Guy Anthony who died at masters nationals, and my friend , they both died of heart failure.Plus you have Sonny Schmidy, Don Young blood, Eric Otero, and the big African American British bodybuilder also died from a heart attack.All these men when in there 40"s and were in great shape, yet they died from a heart attack.I read the autopsy reprots on all of them and every single one of them died from a heart attack due to steroid use.So please dont be in denial, if you use steroids, get blood work done, and check your blood pressure 2-3 times a week.Otherwise, you can face the consequences

[GetItOnNY]

Little guns there are alot of good companies like AST,Bioplex ,Gaspari( Halodrol) Labrada ( protein) Dorin Approved ( protein ) Beverly international ( some of there protein )MHP, Legal Gear ( hormones )Professional Supplements (Vitargo) Optimum Nutrition ( Pro Complex only) Anabolic Xtreme ,ISS ( protein ),  MLO( HARDBODY PROTEIN)
These are pretty much the companies I fell that there products do what they say

[GetItOnNY]

Littel Guns even if you took 2 grams of protein per body lb per day, with most protein powder that would not be enough L-Glutamine to give your muscles full recovery.Even though L-Glutamine is a non essential amino acid, its the most important for muscle cell volume, and muscle recovery.Did you know that 60 % of the tissue in your muscles cells contain L-Glutamine?  So L-Glutamine may not be a so-called essential amino acid, but it is the most essential amino acid for repairing broken down muscle tissue and for increasing mucle cell volume

[schwarzenpecker]

Wombat , First of all they didnt have a Whey Protein Isolate, L-Glutamine, Creatine , or any of the supplments they have today back when Arnold was competeing.I have heard Arnold say his exact words were" body builders have it easier today, they have good supplements, and you can ever go to a health food store and grab a ready to drink protein in a can.Back in the day we had to eat tuna out of a can go to extremes just to get our food in for the day.
I myself started training in 1986 and even back then there wasnt a protein powder that wouldnt bloat you and give you the runs.Plus all they had was amino acid tablets and liver pills .So trust me bodybuilders have it alot easier these days.I know alot of pro bodybuilders such as Gustavo, Troy Alves, Art Atwood, Toney Freeman ,Jay Cutler Will Harris ,Gunther,and Craig Titus.Guess what they all drink protein powder, use L-Glutamine, and about half of them use Creatine .They may not use the company they endoses products, but they do use supplements

As far a anabolics killing people, yes they can.Anabolics ,especially raises blood pressure, cholesterol and can cause an artithemia , which is alterted heart contrations.When you raise blood pressure, and your cholesterol is raised, plus an arithemia happens, this is what causes heart failure.I have nothing against stroid use, but to think they cant cause a heart attack you need to get real.Steroid use did cause me to have high blood pressure, and high cholesterol, which is something I never had before using steroids.Now that I have been off of them  about a year my cholesterol is low, and so is my blood pressure.If you look at any autophosy from the the Guy Anthony who died at masters nationals, and my friend , they both died of heart failure.Plus you have Sonny Schmidy, Don Young blood, Eric Otero, and the big African American British bodybuilder also died from a heart attack.All these men when in there 40"s and were in great shape, yet they died from a heart attack.I read the autopsy reprots on all of them and every single one of them died from a heart attack due to steroid use.So please dont be in denial, if you use steroids, get blood work done, and check your blood pressure 2-3 times a week.Otherwise, you can face the consequences

How did you get access to the autopsy reports? The media says Sonny Schmidt died of cancer in prison and Eric Otero died of an infection from a root canal.

[GetItOnNY]

First off just because a person only uses anabolics for 2 years doesnt mean it cant give him a heart attack.My Aunt who his a doctor in the largest hospitol in NY wrote 2 books one on infection control, and the other heart prevention.I have met alot of doctors through her, and went to her seminars.People can even  die from just using cocaine there first time.Steroids, raise blood pressure, and increases cholesterol which inturn puts alot of stress on the heart.Plus stroids are known to cause heat arithmia , which is an irregular heart beat.So if you have high blood pressure your cholesterol is high, and your heart has an irregular beat.It doesnt take much to puit the heart in to cardiac arrest.If you dont beleive me ask any heart specialist , they will tell you the 3 drugs that cause  the most heart failure is steroids, meth, and cocaine .With bodybuilders they say 85% of the time its either stroke or hear attack that causes there death .They say its because of the amount of weight in muscle they carry, high blood pressure, and usually high cholesterol from the steroids, and high amounts of red meat they eat.Perfect example Mike Matarazzo, steroids, and red meat almost killed him.
I may be wrong about Eric oteros death, because the first thing that they caused his death was a stroke.But after the autopsy, that probably changed.Now Sonny Schmidt on the other hand did die from an arthemia, irregular beating of the heart muscle.Yes they did find cancer cells in his body.If they would have diagnosed his arethmia, they could have put him on heart bmedication.Heart Arethmia is very common with any athlete who uses or has used anabolic steroids

[littleguns]

Littel Guns even if you took 2 grams of protein per body lb per day, with most protein powder that would not be enough L-Glutamine to give your muscles full recovery.Even though L-Glutamine is a non essential amino acid, its the most important for muscle cell volume, and muscle recovery.Did you know that 60 % of the tissue in your muscles cells contain L-Glutamine?  So L-Glutamine may not be a so-called essential amino acid, but it is the most essential amino acid for repairing broken down muscle tissue and for increasing mucle cell volume

First off thanks again for taking time to reply. I have a BS in Nutrition and Exercise Physiology so I fully understand how abundant Glutamine is thourhgout skeletal muscle. But in regards to Metabolism your body breaks down protein into amino acids and then rebuilds it to make whatever Proteins are lacking or necessary hence non-essential. If your body is lacking Glutamine it will take the necessary free form amino acids and rebuild a GLutamine molecule, but if there is an overabundance as in with supplementation all the excess glutamine will be excreted through Urine, sweat etc etc....

Have you ever had an extremely strong smelling urine? This is all the extra protein your body is excreting.....

Again just friendly banter between 2 guys, knowledge is Power, and thus far I am very appreciative of what you have shared....