Author Topic: Request for GETITONY, aka John D. (Read 60211 times)

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #400 on:** August 11, 2006, 05:08:33 PM »

I am so positive that my new 3 stage supplement system will work I randomly picked Croatch on this board to go on it for 30 days.He lives in the same town as I do, but I have never met him personaly.This way one of my tests will not be manipulated or biased in any way..I chose him because he has been all anabolics for 14 years, and it will be easier to track his weekly progress

Croatch · « **Reply #401 on:** August 11, 2006, 05:08:59 PM »

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I am so positive that my new 3 stage supplement system will work I randomly picked Croatch on this board to go on it for 30 days.He lives in the same town as I do, but I have never met him personaly.This way one of my tests will not be manipulated or biased in any way..I chose him because he has been all anabolics for 14 years, and it will be easier to track his weekly progress

All anabolics for 14 years? Did you mean off?

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #402 on:** August 11, 2006, 05:21:29 PM »

Croatch has BEEN OFF anabolics for 14 years.Busy day, you know how it is

Disgusted · « **Reply #403 on:** August 11, 2006, 09:23:19 PM »

Quote from: GetItOnNY on August 11, 2006, 04:08:23 PM

UK gold the ingredients in Methyl Tren Depot does convert to Trenbalone in Digestion.No its not as strong as the Drug, but trust me its pretty dam potent.I have been on and off of it for a year now because I got off of gear a year ago, and I am holding 255 lbs.I know what your talking about stuff Like Beta Ecdosterone, Methyoxy-Isolflavone, and just Tribulus alone are junk.UK my moto is simply if I wouldnt use trhe product myself, I dont expect anyone else to buy it.Most supplement company owners are usually some fat slob in it just for the money.Thats what sets me apart,I was a pro natural bodybuilder for 10 years, then a top 10 national NPC competitor .I am this buissnes to make an honest living, you will never see my adds say, a person gained 25 lbs in 4 weeks using Anator70.UK I understand your doubt , but if you knew how many pro bodybuilders who use my product or I formulate for, who are endosred by larger companies, you would be amazed.I work with about 8 pro athletes, including Art Atwood , and Will Harris just to name a few.

I'm guessing this stuff is progesterone based to make it legal.

Mr. Michael Moore · « **Reply #404 on:** August 11, 2006, 09:36:20 PM »

Quote from: GetItOnNY on August 09, 2006, 08:16:34 PM

I got a PM asking me how many reps I do on each set? Well I dont count reps, on the first set I might do around 8- 11, the next set 6-8 then if there is a third set 4-6 reps .I dont count reps, I go strickly by feel , because if lets say you shoot for 10 reps on the 9th rep you will phychologically feel fatigue.Plus your so busy focusing on the number of reps that you not focusing on what really important muscle stimulus.Dont worry about reps, just make sure the first set you can get around 8-11 reps, if you get more good.Keep your focus on going to complete and all out failure each set, .REMEMBER Bodybuilding is a sprint, not a marathon, so train each and every set like you would run a 100 yard dash, all out !!! On compund movements like squats ,Bench Dead lifts, dont be afraid to go heavy, because heavy weight with proper executiion = big muscle

John,

How many sets do you recomend taking to total absolute failure for each muscle groups? I am talking sets aimed to really induce hypertrophy, which means after the warm up sets.

How many sets to failure for a guy ON and for a guy NATURAL?

Also, how would you train legs?

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #405 on:** August 11, 2006, 09:49:24 PM »

A transport that will become very big in all Nitrous Oxide products on the market is L-Norvaline , in the next yearThe benefits of L-NOrvaline are simply amazing .L-Norvaline is an analog of the branched chain amino acid Valine. L-Norvaline inhibits the arginase enzyme thus increasing arginine concentrations for enhanced conversion to nitric oxide.This means it will help the body absorb L-Arginine 5 times better in studes, in other words, mind blowing pumps.

Another Analog that will become very popular in Nitrous Oxide prooducts is Metafolin.Now .Metafolin is a new, coenzymated form of folic acid. Upon absorption into our bodies, folate is converted into L-methylfolate, the predominant form of folate in circulation and the only type that can cross the blood-brain barrier. This conversion is difficult for some people. As a result, they may not receive the full nutritional benefits of folic acid. Metafolin does not require enzymatic conversion. Preliminary research suggests that it is more bioavailable than folic acid.So in other words Metafolin, fully expands the muscle cell so the muscle cell can take in more nutrients , and it increases the volume of the cell.So if your taking Kre-Alkalyn, ,L-Arginine, or even AKG, the muscle cells will absorb it like a sponge, and very little nutrients will get wasted .Which has been a problem with 90 % of all N.O .products and cell volumizers of the past.

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #406 on:** August 11, 2006, 10:41:04 PM »

Mr. Michael Moore This is just an approximation, because I go strictly by feel
natural on gear
Monday Chest 9-11 on gear 12-14 sets
Tuesday Legs 10-12 on gear 16-18 sets
Wednesday Back 10-12 on gear 16 sets
Thursday shoulders 12 on gear 16 sets
Friday Arms biceps 6-8 sets on gear 9-10 sets
Triceps 6-8 sets on gear 9-10 sets

Mr. Michael Moore · « **Reply #407 on:** August 11, 2006, 10:55:35 PM »

Ok, john, but out of all those sets, how many of those are aimed at total failure?

Also, do you REALLY think it's absolutely necessary to cycle failure ? If so, how do you do ?

Thanx!

cswol · « **Reply #408 on:** August 12, 2006, 01:26:23 AM »

dr. moore, to be honest, do you think following a workout with an exact number of sets and reps is working out? Dont you know that everyone is different, and a true hardcore, iron guy, like myself could respond totally different than another does to a workout. A true lifter will know his body, what makes it grow, and what to do in his workout. Ive done workouts with 70 sets with a ton of reps and heavy weight, and workouts with only one set per exercise at low or mid range reps. A true workout will consist of warmups, light sets, heavy sets, low reps, high reps, negatives, dumbell exercises, barbell exercises, body weight exercises, supersets, giant sets, etc..................... .......all this shit in one workout, one fuckin workout for about 30 minutes, no bullshittn, no talking, no jackin off in your head to bitches in the gym.........you got that, none of that gold's gym venice shit of reading the paper on the bench..........you got that.................tha ts a fuckin workout and how you get big.

kingNOLI · « **Reply #409 on:** August 12, 2006, 02:01:58 AM »

Cswole you are 100% on the ball, Your one hard core MOFO.

None of you get biggers can match the hardcore Cswole or even stand a chance to follow him in one of his workouts .

I have seen him one arm curl 130's , he is one serious dude .

Cswole if you dont mind can you go through a chest workout I have been a little stagnate on chest developement.

I want something new and harcore to promote new muscle growth and create burn in the muscle fibers.

If you dont mind to pass on a experts opinion .

I am tiered of these wanabee get biggers I want a experts advice.

BTW JOHn D . you are excluded from that comment you the man also.

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Let me have it I am ready with my bucket by my side.

KINGNOLI

cswol · « **Reply #410 on:** August 12, 2006, 10:24:04 AM »

well in that case dr. moore will have to consult with getbiginnewyork, cause extreme labs has the only supplements that can help a hardgainer and a guy like dr. moore.

cswol · « **Reply #411 on:** August 12, 2006, 10:29:15 AM »

well this one guy who calls himself mr. canada told me a long time ago if you fuck standing up, it will promote growth in the calves and the chest area.

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #412 on:** August 12, 2006, 10:58:39 AM »

Mr Moore its plain and simple, each and every set to all out failure, that means balls to the wall.Since I do not do alot of sets, I make the absolute most out of every set.Bodybuilding is a sprint not a marathon,meaning you train each in every set like a 100 yard dash all out !!!!.When you done with a set, your muscle that your working is pushed to the limit that the only reason your taking a break in between sets is because you have to, because there is no way you could do another rep at all

Mr. Michael Moore · « **Reply #413 on:** August 12, 2006, 12:35:23 PM »

Quote from: GetItOnNY on August 12, 2006, 10:58:39 AM

Mr Moore its plain and simple, each and every set to all out failure, that means balls to the wall.Since I do not do alot of sets, I make the absolute most out of every set.Bodybuilding is a sprint not a marathon,meaning you train each in every set like a 100 yard dash all out !!!!.When you done with a set, your muscle that your working is pushed to the limit that the only reason your taking a break in between sets is because you have to, because there is no way you could do another rep at all

Are u saying to me that all of those 12 to 16 sets are all done until failure, they are all working sets, actually?

Are u sure in that example you posted, in all of those 12 to 16 sets , aren't included the warm up ones?

Lemme refrase: let's say you do 4 diferent exercises per bodypart. Out of the 4 exercises, how many WORKING SETES until failure EACH exercise will receive?

Thanx!

Oh, and Hey, Cswol: Go fuck your self!

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #414 on:** August 12, 2006, 04:18:34 PM »

Michael Moore , yes those are all working sets, But I never do more then 3 sets per exercise.Example Chest without gear

3 sets of flat bench first set 10-14 reps second set 6-8 reps third set 3-5 reps
3 sets incline press first set 9-12 reps second set 6-8 resp third set 4-6 resp
2 sets of flatt dumbell press first set 6-8 reps second set 4-6 resp
Incline dumbell press first set 6-8 resp second set 4-6 reps
1 incline dumbell flies 6-9 reps
1 set of cable flies 8-11 reps

This is an example off an off season off gear training session.Sometimes I will do dumbells first and to 3 sets of flat and incline dumbell press, then only 2 sets of flat and incline bench.I always try to change things up .The reps are only approximation because I dont count reps, I focus on muscle stimulus and pushing the muscle to complete failure.Your muscle dont know the diffrence between 8 and 10 reps, but they do know failure.

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #415 on:** August 12, 2006, 09:28:36 PM »

I got a PM today asking me about the supplement Pyruvate, and they wondered if it was a good fat burner.First of all Pyruvate was neverwas and never will be a good fat burner .Believe it or not Pyruvate is a 3 carbon molecule, which would make it a carbohydrate.What Pyruvate does is it transports carbs into useable energy, so its a great transport for any type of carbohydrate for endurace before exercise or working out.One thing Pyruvate does do is increase endurance because it stops the carbohydrates in your body from sitting in the liver, but instead shuttles the glcogen into the muscle cell.Thus, creating endurance.One thing about Pyruvic Acid ( the main ingredient in Pyruvate ) is it is unstable so they have to bond it to a salt .Which Usually calcium , that why its called Calcium Pyruvate.There are also Soduim Pyruvate, and Potasium Pyruvate as well.In my studies with working with endurance athletes, Calcium Pyruvate, worked well when taken with L-Carnatine .The dosages were 3 grams of Pyruvate, and 700 mg of L-Carnatine, gave athletes alot more endurance, and consistant energy.So if somebody tell you Pyruvate is a fat burner, tell them no its not its a 3 carbon molecule, and transports carbs into useable energy

kingNOLI · « **Reply #416 on:** August 12, 2006, 09:31:06 PM »

Cool always wondered exactly what it did.

Thanks JOHN D.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #417 on:** August 12, 2006, 09:56:29 PM »

You should have chose me for your experiment. I am supplement free even and am a much harder trainer than Croatch.

Its all good though.

Croatch · « **Reply #418 on:** August 13, 2006, 12:42:22 AM »

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I am supplement free even and am a much harder trainer than Croatch.

That would be a good assumption, considering you've never trained with me.

kingNOLI · « **Reply #419 on:** August 13, 2006, 01:06:20 PM »

John D. muscle tech claims a 97 % whey Isolate , can this be

??

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #420 on:** August 13, 2006, 10:47:34 PM »

There is no such thing as 97% whey protein Isolate, trust me.I have assayed ( independent labtest ) atleat 2 dozen whey protein Isolates claiming to be 95- 98 % isolate only to come up 89-91 % Whey Isolate. The highest assay I have ever seen a whey protein Isolate show up as 94% , but on average most Isolates I have tested come up 80 to 86% which is not a true Isolate .A Isolated Protein is protein that has 90% plus protein of its make up.Now Nitro Tec is not a bad product but its not great either. Lets do the math ,a scoop of Nitro Tec is 28.5 grams.Out of that there is only 20 grams of protein ,so lets do the math, 20 grams divided by 28.5 = 71% .So Nitro Tech is 71 % protein, which would make it a concentrate.Plus if you read the ingredients the first ingredient is Whey Protein concentrate, and the 5th ingredient is 97% whey protein Isolate.So this means there is very little so called 97 5 Isolate in this product because in my math it only came up 71% protein. Now 71 % whey protein concentrate isnt bad, but there is alot better like 80 and 85 % concentrate is alot better.Plus Nitro Tec has low carbs, and has creatine and L-Glutamine in its ingredients, so this is a train wrech waiting to happen, lol. First 5 grams of carbs, is not much of a transport, then creatine and L-Glutamine will compete for thesame cell receptor, so they will conveniently cancle each other out.I am not bashing Nitro Tec because its not a bad product, but it is over priced, and overated.There are alot of better products out there that are more cost effective, and have a higher percentage of protein per gram.The 2 brands I recomend that are about the same price is Bioplex Isolate and AST VP2 which are true Isolates, besides my Nitro 92 whey Isolate.With Muscle tech your paying for athletes and a whole lot of marketing, with just average products.They make these outrageous claims, so they can charge a premium price so a just average quality product.

Mr. Michael Moore · « **Reply #421 on:** August 14, 2006, 03:39:21 PM »

John, thanx for the answer, man!

What do you think about OPTIMUM NUTRITION'S Whey protein?

Thanx again!

Wombat · « **Reply #422 on:** August 14, 2006, 03:56:49 PM »

Working out to total failure is only one way of thousands to workout...Like any thing, you must change it up....

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #423 on:** August 14, 2006, 08:11:41 PM »

Mr Moore , I am not a big fan of Optimum Nutrition, and I never have been.I dont care for the 5 lbs Whey protein because I tried it once about 3 years ago at a juice bar and gave me an upset stomach.I had bloating ,cramping and gas for several hours , so it wasnt pleasent.The only product I would even thing about using is Pro Complex by optimum Nutrition, is have 4 diffrent types of protein, and has a broader amino acid profile then tghere Whey.Plus it seems to be alot higher quailty so it probably wont have any lactose in it .

Mr. Michael Moore · « **Reply #424 on:** August 14, 2006, 08:38:18 PM »

John, I'm sorry to keep asking you things training related, but the issue is just fantastic, since people have the most divergent opinions to all the training protocols.
Do you REALLY think it's necessary to cycle intensity? Like the previous post, from Wombat, when he said that going to failure is just one type, and you have to change it up from time to time. I have a hardtime agreeing with this theory, 'cause I have always thought the ultimate goal of someone seeking hypertrophy is to go to absolute failure. How on earth are you going to stimmulate growth if you take it easy with your foot on that pedal from time to time, so to speak, as it's exactly what periodization implies.

I'd appreciate your insight , here. Thanx again!