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Overload · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2006, 02:36:23 PM »

Not trying to be a dick but there are ALOT of clen threads on the first 2 pages that would answer all your questions.

if you want specifics, let us know more about your history and how high your bodyfat is at this time.

diet and training should be staple for losing weight, clen is best used once you are at a fairly low bodyfat % already.

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2006, 02:53:52 PM »

1. proper diet
2. cardio
3. clen , 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, works good, 2,3,4,5 pills a day !! each pill 2mcg

cuts cycle , how about sust, winny, or test cip promobolan , or primobolan and winny...

ZEEK · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2006, 02:56:32 PM »

you dont use test or deca for cutting

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2006, 02:59:41 PM »

...or trenabol acetat/winny/primo depo

hendog · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:07:58 PM »

Quote from: sportingsteroids on July 12, 2006, 02:59:41 PM

...or trenabol acetat/winny/primo depo

I have never used any of these compounds. Just Test Enanthate, Deca, Dbol. I have never done an all out cutting cycle either obviously so I am rather curious to hear some feedback on this specific combination and its effects on your physique as opposed to what I have taken. I know that a cutting cycle is only as good as your diet and cardio (and T3, clen and diueretic usage for competitors) but is it that different as opposed to gains with Test E, Deca or Dbol? I would love to compete and am curious about these compounds from a real world usage point of view (not just what is written on roid sites and magazines) Thanks in advance bros.

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:13:43 PM »

Quote from: hendog on July 12, 2006, 05:07:58 PM

I have never used any of these compounds. Just Test Enanthate, Deca, Dbol. I have never done an all out cutting cycle either obviously so I am rather curious to hear some feedback on this specific combination and its effects on your physique as opposed to what I have taken. I know that a cutting cycle is only as good as your diet and cardio (and T3, clen and diueretic usage for competitors) but is it that different as opposed to gains with Test E, Deca or Dbol? I would love to compete and am curious about these compounds from a real world usage point of view (not just what is written on roid sites and magazines) Thanks in advance bros.

to hendog,

test e/deca/dbol is widely use stack,
i think it is the most popular stack around the world !
cycle could supply good gains, mass size and strenght,
in base it is an mass cycle ! (dbol and test)

.... guys rather take mass than cuts cycles !
also if u r 1st time on roids you gonna take an mass cycle !

cutts cycle is 2nd cycle !
do one mass cycle and than one cutts cycle !
u r next !

hendog · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:22:58 PM »

Quote from: sportingsteroids on July 12, 2006, 05:13:43 PM

to hendog,

test e/deca/dbol is widely use stack,
i think it is the most popular stack around the world !
cycle could supply good gains, mass size and strenght,
in base it is an mass cycle ! (dbol and test)

.... guys rather take mass than cuts cycles !
also if u r 1st time on roids you gonna take an mass cycle !

cutts cycle is 2nd cycle !
do one mass cycle and than one cutts cycle !
u r next !

That was my whole goal from the start to get a good foundation of mass so I stuck with a cycle sceme that works. I chose not to do a cut cycle for my second, or third for that matter because I didn't feel I was big enough even afterwards. I was going for sheer size and gained quite a bit from those kinds of cycles but as far as winny, tren, primo, halos, GH, Slin, Diueretics (of any form), T3 usage for cuts I have no experience. Of course I can't help but feel that I will never be big enough and can always be bigger, but I would like to be dense and big. Right now my bf% is 10 to 11 % at a weight of 230lbs. It is hard to decide when to cut and when to build if being big and lean is your ultimate goal because without the mass your cuts aren't as profound (at least in my mind)

u r next now bro

Rimbaud · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:23:47 PM »

If you're going to use Test for cutting then I'd use Prop.

hendog · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:30:50 PM »

Quote from: Rimbaud on July 12, 2006, 05:23:47 PM

If you're going to use Test for cutting then I'd use Prop.

Not trying to be a smart as but reason being?

Rimbaud · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:33:45 PM »

Quote from: hendog on July 12, 2006, 05:30:50 PM

Not trying to be a smart as but reason being?

Most people usually gain less water (bloat less) when taking Prop.

Rimbaud · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:35:18 PM »

I'm also planning to do a cutting cycle in about two months with Test Prop (among other things).

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:41:48 PM »

Quote from: Rimbaud on July 12, 2006, 05:23:47 PM

If you're going to use Test for cutting then I'd use Prop.

test is again a must

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:44:12 PM »

Quote from: Rimbaud on July 12, 2006, 05:33:45 PM

Most people usually gain less water (bloat less) when taking Prop.

test prop is preffered form of test for dieting/cutting phases of training, giving the user less water and fat retention than :test e , cyp, sust...

test prop / tren acetat = a bomb

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:44:53 PM »

Quote from: Rimbaud on July 12, 2006, 05:35:18 PM

I'm also planning to do a cutting cycle in about two months with Test Prop (among other things).

please present us your new cycle ...?

hendog · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:46:54 PM »

Quote from: sportingsteroids on July 12, 2006, 05:44:12 PM

test prop is preffered form of test for dieting/cutting phases of training, giving the user less water and fat retention than :test e , cyp, sust...

test prop / tren acetat = a bomb

But couldn't you use a mild diueretic in conjunction with test E to combat the bloat? I am asking because I seriously don't know but sounds logical.

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:47:14 PM »

Quote from: hendog on July 12, 2006, 05:22:58 PM

weight ?

hendog · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:49:10 PM »

Quote from: sportingsteroids on July 12, 2006, 05:47:14 PM

weight ?

Sorry bro but I am not following the question. Do you mean what is my current weight?

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:50:41 PM »

yes man,
what is your current heigh ?? u only supply 230 lbs !

hendog · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:51:56 PM »

Quote from: sportingsteroids on July 12, 2006, 05:50:41 PM

yes man,
you current heigh ?? u only 230 lbs !

Unfortunately yes. But I carry it well

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:52:39 PM »

and what about your heigh ?

hendog · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:54:37 PM »

5'10", shoe size 13 and mother maiden name is ... well I wish I had a mother.

sportingsteroids · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:56:57 PM »

Quote from: hendog on July 12, 2006, 05:54:37 PM

5'10", shoe size 13 and mother maiden name is ... well I wish I had a mother.

i am 13 too !!

5'10 and 230 lbs , looks good to me,
are you mass opsesive ??

hendog · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:00:29 PM »

Quote from: sportingsteroids on July 12, 2006, 05:56:57 PM

i am 13 too !!

5'10 and 230 lbs , looks good to me,
are you mass opsesive ??

Yes, my idols in bodybuilding are Markus Ruhl, Dorian Yates, Jay Cutler, Dennis james and I will get laughed at for this one but Art Atwood. I have never seen a pro put on that much size in 2 years. Fricken monster. Branch Warren is another guy I think is bad ass.

Arnold jr · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:01:06 PM »

Quote from: sportingsteroids on July 12, 2006, 05:44:12 PM

test prop / tren acetat = a bomb

Word...running this right now with t-3 and clen. I had planned to throw in halo at then end with all this but I believe now I'm going to just stick with what I'm on.