Author Topic: It's all about genetics baby!! woot woot!! (Read 44298 times)

MassInMass · « **Reply #50 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:06:58 PM »

Quote from: bmacsys on July 20, 2006, 03:04:55 PM

Thats absolutely ridiculous. Very, very, very few men could attain a physique like Ronnie Coleman no matter how much gear they took.

Not true...I disagree...I say there is a "genetic" equivelant to Ronnie Coleman in almost every gym...He just chooses to pursue bodybuilding,while the others do not...How many guys in the NFL could look similiar to Ronnie if they choose to? I'm not taking anything away from Coleman...I'm just saying there are alot of genetic freaks running around...

I ETA PI · « **Reply #51 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:11:00 PM »

I bet 1/2 of high school athletes could be pro bodybuilders with enough gear. Even with their current understanding of training and diet.
I know many pro bodybuilders, and their lack of nutritional understanding is astounding.

bmacsys · « **Reply #52 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:54:10 PM »

Quote from: MassInMass on July 20, 2006, 05:06:58 PM

How many guys in the NFL could look similiar to Ronnie if they choose to?

I would say VERY FEW.

gracie bjj · « **Reply #53 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:01:18 PM »

it takes ahelluva lot more then a pin in your ass to be a champion,work ethic,diet,lifestyle,determination,beleivin in yourself when others dont are somethings to take into consideration.genetics smenetics, bodybuilding at the top level takes guts that most of us wouldnt understand,im sure afew of you know what im sayin

DOGGCRAPP · « **Reply #54 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:19:07 PM »

You know what the funniest thing about this sport is? It happens in every gym across this nation daily. It's when natural "holier than thou" guys like Matt C finally decide to go to the "dark side" with anabolics and they end up only 10% bigger and better....and they realize "oh thats all that happens?" "How come Im not exploding into pro size?"
So where do they go from there? The next conspiracy theory in their head is "oh yeah well that huge guy over there in my gym and that huge pro in the magazines must be taking boatloads of juice to get that way".....then Matt C finds himself taking pretty large amounts and still realizes that he is still only 15% better than when he was natural. So whats the next conspiracy theory to make it fit right in your mind? "oh yea well that gigantic guy over there is taking 20 ius of GH a day and alot of insulin too!" and on and on it goes---whatever you need to do to make it feel right in your mind and not take away from your own genetics.
One million people in the United States have admitted to taking steroids. There are 300 million people in the United states, discount the elderly, children and women and that probably leaves you with 70 million males. So roughly one out of every 70 men have used steroids. How many big 300lb behemoths do you see walking around? 1 million? Not even remotely close.
Trust me, youll know when you have pro genetics when your gaining so fast out of the blocks it makes your head spin. Jay Cutler was competing nationally and winning 18 months after he started lifting and was a monster. Where were you after 18 months of lifting? Where was I? Not even close to looking anything like an advanced bodybuilder. Its pretty widely known that Ronnie Coleman won his pro card at the team universe at 228lbs clean roughly 15 years ago. That means an offseason weight of about 270lbs (natural) If Ronnie continued to train clean the last 15 years does anyone doubt that he would of put on at least another 25lbs of muscle mass (AT LEAST!) That would of put him at 253lbs onstage.
I dont know where you guys train or how long youve been in this sport but Ive seen guys with godlike genetics and they just fly by everyone else no matter what they do. You cant make woody allen, Jim Carrey, or pee wee herman into Jay Cutler no matter what ergo aids and dosages you give them and alot of you guys who are pissed off at not reaching a certain level....should maybe be blaming Mom and Pop instead of "that damn juice". Because I am willing to bet if you did do some of "that damn juice" you would end up sorely dissapointed that what you thought you were going to become pales in comparison to the end result. Some of you guys have been on the net for 10 years and have seen millions of posts on bodybuilding boards. How many of those guys that you have seen complaining that they "cant put on enough size" and therefore started using roids exploded into superhuman size and now have a pro card? NONE. Why? Because you put 6'5" Brent Barry and 6'5" Bob Sapp on the same stack and youll have one skinny guy with a little bit of muscle mass and one absolute behemoth of a bodybuilder...........an d the answer to the equation was genetics

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #55 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:23:01 PM »

Dante, we're not going to read a book

DOGGCRAPP · « **Reply #56 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:24:29 PM »

heck I shortened it too--that was just the cliff notes

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #57 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:25:46 PM »

Quote from: DOGGCRAPP on July 20, 2006, 06:24:29 PM

heck I shortened it too--that was just the cliff notes

It's good to have you back on getbig

DOGGCRAPP · « **Reply #58 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:28:36 PM »

I wouldnt say "im back"....Ive always been good for about one post every 6 months so I guess you guys wont see me again till december

240 is Back · « **Reply #59 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:34:38 PM »

Quote from: DOGGCRAPP on July 20, 2006, 06:28:36 PM

I wouldnt say "im back"....Ive always been good for about one post every 6 months so I guess you guys wont see me again till december

Can you put a copy of 'Cycles for Pennies' in my stocking?

Woten · « **Reply #60 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:35:21 PM »

Quote from: DOGGCRAPP on July 20, 2006, 06:28:36 PM

I wouldnt say "im back"....Ive always been good for about one post every 6 months so I guess you guys wont see me again till december

Yeah well, feel free to fuck off again, Matts got his issues and doesnt need the clown prince amongst beef washers getting on his case

SEE MATT? YOU FUCKING CLOWN, ANY REP YOU MAY HAVE HAD IS RAPIDLY GOING TO SHIT

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DONT HAVE THE FUCKING WHEREWITHALL TO GO WITH THAT WHICH YOU WANT TO GO WITH, YOU POSTER OF INCONSISTANT ANTI STEROID PISSANT SHITE!!!!!

Look, get some gear, stop talking undaduterated shite about gear users (that you dont actually believe) and get back to posting about BB from another angle

Thats all

wankers!

lilwoday09smb · « **Reply #61 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:37:54 PM »

coleman had good gentetics a naturaly big guy prob about 225-245 if he didnt juice, however his body fat would be a bit higher, however juice is deff the magic drug. ive seen kids in my college go on it, get huge then 10 weeks after a cycle there back to there small size and usualy very angry. they take 4 steps forwards, then 5 steps back. id rtather do it the long way and slowly gain my mass naturaly but be able to maintain my body

DOGGCRAPP · « **Reply #62 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:43:56 PM »

Quote from: lilwoday09smb on July 20, 2006, 06:37:54 PM

coleman had good gentetics a naturaly big guy prob about 225-245 if he didnt juice, however his body fat would be a bit higher, however juice is deff the magic drug. ive seen kids in my college go on it, get huge then 10 weeks after a cycle there back to there small size and usualy very angry. they take 4 steps forwards, then 5 steps back. id rtather do it the long way and slowly gain my mass naturaly but be able to maintain my body

When I hear you say "ive seen kids at my college get huge" the context of "huge" to you and I could be dramatically different. Ive seen this board numerous times have posts about the comedian Carrot Top and how huge he is now. 180 lb guys who turn themselves into 210lb guys and guys like carrot top arent my idea of huge

sarcasm · « **Reply #63 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:44:59 PM »

Quote from: DOGGCRAPP on July 20, 2006, 06:43:56 PM

When I hear you say "ive seen kids at my college get huge" the context of "huge" to you and I could be dramatically different. Ive seen this board numerous times have posts about the comedian Carrot Top and how huge he is now. 180 lb guys who turn themselves into 210lb guys and guys like carrot top isnt my idea of huge

hey Dante post that pic of you in the tuxedo, we all need a good laugh, monster 48 inch waist.

Woten · « **Reply #64 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:45:07 PM »

Quote from: DOGGCRAPP on July 20, 2006, 06:19:07 PM

Its pretty widely known that Ronnie Coleman won his pro card at the team universe at 228lbs clean roughly 15 years ago. That means an offseason weight of about 270lbs (natural) If Ronnie continued to train clean the last 15 years does anyone doubt that he would of put on at least another 25lbs of muscle mass (AT LEAST!) That would of put him at 253lbs onstage.

Dante, your'e full of it

So, lets use your lower set of figures (228/270) we can see that Ron has - after using ALL THE FUCKING GEAR IN ALL OF THE FUCKING WORLD......

managed to...

........ put on 50lbs of mass?

Thats even before we employ your upper figures wherein you state Ron could have been 253 ON STAGE, thus only gaining 30lbs from ALL THE FUCKING GEAR IN ALL OF THE FUCKING WORLD

Yeah ok, Sugar

MassInMass · « **Reply #65 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:45:25 PM »

Quote from: DOGGCRAPP on July 20, 2006, 06:19:07 PM

You know what the funniest thing about this sport is? It happens in every gym across this nation daily. It's when natural "holier than thou" guys like Matt C finally decide to go to the "dark side" with anabolics and they end up only 10% bigger and better....and they realize "oh thats all that happens?" "How come Im not exploding into pro size?"
So where do they go from there? The next conspiracy theory in their head is "oh yeah well that huge guy over there in my gym and that huge pro in the magazines must be taking boatloads of juice to get that way".....then Matt C finds himself taking pretty large amounts and still realizes that he is still only 15% better than when he was natural. So whats the next conspiracy theory to make it fit right in your mind? "oh yea well that gigantic guy over there is taking 20 ius of GH a day and alot of insulin too!" and on and on it goes---whatever you need to do to make it feel right in your mind and not take away from your own genetics.
One million people in the United States have admitted to taking steroids. There are 300 million people in the United states, discount the elderly, children and women and that probably leaves you with 70 million males. So roughly one out of every 70 men have used steroids. How many big 300lb behemoths do you see walking around? 1 million? Not even remotely close.
Trust me, youll know when you have pro genetics when your gaining so fast out of the blocks it makes your head spin. Jay Cutler was competing nationally and winning 18 months after he started lifting and was a monster. Where were you after 18 months of lifting? Where was I? Not even close to looking anything like an advanced bodybuilder. Its pretty widely known that Ronnie Coleman won his pro card at the team universe at 228lbs clean roughly 15 years ago. That means an offseason weight of about 270lbs (natural) If Ronnie continued to train clean the last 15 years does anyone doubt that he would of put on at least another 25lbs of muscle mass (AT LEAST!) That would of put him at 253lbs onstage.
I dont know where you guys train or how long youve been in this sport but Ive seen guys with godlike genetics and they just fly by everyone else no matter what they do. You cant make woody allen, Jim Carrey, or pee wee herman into Jay Cutler no matter what ergo aids and dosages you give them and alot of you guys who are pissed off at not reaching a certain level....should maybe be blaming Mom and Pop instead of "that damn juice". Because I am willing to bet if you did do some of "that damn juice" you would end up sorely dissapointed that what you thought you were going to become pales in comparison to the end result. Some of you guys have been on the net for 10 years and have seen millions of posts on bodybuilding boards. How many of those guys that you have seen complaining that they "cant put on enough size" and therefore started using roids exploded into superhuman size and now have a pro card? NONE. Why? Because you put 6'5" Brent Barry and 6'5" Bob Sapp on the same stack and youll have one skinny guy with a little bit of muscle mass and one absolute behemoth of a bodybuilder...........an d the answer to the equation was genetics

If Ronnie did indeed win his procard at 228 clean, and it puts his off season weight(that year) at 270, does that mean that he has gained less than 4 lbs per year (off season) for the last 15 years, after taking more drugs than anyone on here can fathom? That just dosn't make any sense...furthermore, while there are many males that are willing to admit they took steroids at one time or another, how many will admit to ABUSING them? The real question is, how many of them have the balls to take the amounts of gear he uses? ...Take any linemen in the NFL, put him on the same gear, have him train and eat like it his job, and there would be a stage full of Ronnie Colemans...

DOGGCRAPP · « **Reply #66 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:46:14 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on July 20, 2006, 06:44:59 PM

hey Dante post that pic of you in the tuxedo, we all need a good laugh, monster 48 inch waist.

No problem, can we post up that pic of your 20 inch guns (well when you add the right and left measurements together I mean)

sarcasm · « **Reply #67 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:47:49 PM »

Quote from: MassInMass on July 20, 2006, 06:45:25 PM

If Ronnie did indeed win his procard at 228 clean, and it puts his off season weight(that year) at 270, does that mean that he has gained less than 4 lbs per year (off season) for the last 15 years, after taking more drugs than anyone on here can fathom? That just dosn't make any sense...furthermore, while there are many males that are willing to admit they took steroids at one time or another, how many will admit to ABUSING them? The real question is, how many of them have the balls to take the amounts of gear he uses? ...Take any linemen in the NFL, put him on the same gear, have him train and eat like it his job, and there would be a stage full of Ronnie Colemans...

i'd go one step further and say that there would be a stage full of guys who absolutely DWARF Ronnie Coleman.

Woten · « **Reply #68 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:49:15 PM »

Quote from: DOGGCRAPP on July 20, 2006, 06:46:14 PM

No problem, can we post up that pic of your 20 inch guns (well when you add the right and left measurements together I mean)

Hey, just before you piss off to give your Cow a nice pre-teatime bath or whatever shite you like to engage in, answer these gems:

Quote from: DOGGCRAPP on July 20, 2006, 06:19:07 PM

Its pretty widely known that Ronnie Coleman won his pro card at the team universe at 228lbs clean roughly 15 years ago. That means an offseason weight of about 270lbs (natural) If Ronnie continued to train clean the last 15 years does anyone doubt that he would of put on at least another 25lbs of muscle mass (AT LEAST!) That would of put him at 253lbs onstage.

Dante, your'e full of it

So, lets use your lower set of figures (228/270) we can see that Ron has - after using ALL THE FUCKING GEAR IN ALL OF THE FUCKING WORLD......

managed to...

........ put on 50lbs of mass?

Thats even before we employ your upper figures wherein you state Ron could have been 253 ON STAGE, thus only gaining 30lbs from ALL THE FUCKING GEAR IN ALL OF THE FUCKING WORLD

Yeah ok, Sugar

We wont wait

MassInMass · « **Reply #69 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:49:49 PM »

I agree...

sarcasm · « **Reply #70 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:51:14 PM »

Quote from: DOGGCRAPP on July 20, 2006, 06:46:14 PM

No problem, can we post up that pic of your 20 inch guns (well when you add the right and left measurements together I mean)

ok tubby, are you still telling all of your hypnosis victims....i mean trainees drinking the protein that you conveniently sell, hahahaha, monster ethics.

Woten · « **Reply #71 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:53:32 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on July 20, 2006, 06:47:49 PM

i'd go one step further and say that there would be a stage full of guys who absolutely DWARF Ronnie Coleman.

Sarcasm, tell us, as you have [honourably] admitted to your previous gear use, tell us, did you [as one might expect] gain well? perhaps on the order or 20lbs+ from your first cycle? or, AS PER DANTES PREVIOUS POSTS, did you gain Colemanesque gains on the order of, oh I dont know, 0.0099981lbs maybe? perhaps? fuck knows, I mean, Colemans only a freak with great juice genetics, f**k knows what we were thinking eh?

20lbs per gear cycle as an AVERAGE gain for most users? yeah ok, we are SO fucking wrong, perhaps we imagined all the nice new mass

DOGGCRAPP · « **Reply #72 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:54:31 PM »

Quote from: Woten on July 20, 2006, 06:49:15 PM

Hey, just before you piss off to give your Cow a nice pre-teastime bath ot whatever shite you like to engage in, answer these gems:

Dante, your'e full of it

So, lets use your lower set of figures (228/270) we can see that Ron has - after using ALL THE FUCKING GEAR IN ALL OF THE FUCKING WORLD......

managed to...

........ put on 50lbs of mass?

Thats even before we employ your upper figures wherein you state Ron could have been 253 ON STAGE, thus only gaining 30lbs from ALL THE FUCKING GEAR IN ALL OF THE FUCKING WORLD

Yeah ok, Sugar

We wont wait

Where are you getting your figures? He showed up at the Russian Grand Prix at 300lbs and was 296 at his largest Olympia win. I talked to his training partner last week and he said he is coming in at 300 this year so your figures are a little off (well way off)

sarcasm · « **Reply #73 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:55:33 PM »

Quote from: Woten on July 20, 2006, 06:53:32 PM

Sarcasm, tell us, as you have [honourably] admitted to your previous gear use, tell us, did you [as one might expect] gain well, perhaps on the order or 20lbs+ from you first cycle? or, AS PER DANTES PREVIOUS POSTS, did you gain Colemanesque gains on the order of, oh I dont know, 0.0099981lbs maybe? perhaps? f**k knows, I mean, Colemans only a freak with great juice genetics, f**k knows what we were thinking eh?

20lbs per gear cycle as an AVERAGE gain for most users? yeah ok, we are SO fucking wrong, perhaps we imagined all the nice new mass

i did my first cycle in the fall of 99 at age 27, 5'11" 220lbs., i was 242 by March 2000, i used 500mg. Sustenon/week and 5 pink d-bols per day.

Woten · « **Reply #74 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:59:16 PM »

Quote from: DOGGCRAPP on July 20, 2006, 06:54:31 PM

Where are you getting your figures? He showed up at the Russian Grand Prix at 300lbs and was 296 at his largest Olympia win. I talked to his training partner last week and he said he is coming in at 300 this year so your figures are a little off (well way off)

I took the figures from one of your above posts, as quoted, you spastic cunt

You previously claimed that Ronnie - if remaining natural - could have turned up on stage at 250+, thus you [DE FUCKING FACTO] claim that Ron has only - USING ALL THE FUCKING GEAR IN THE WORLD - been able to put on a PISS POOR 40-50lbs TO ARRIVE AT A JUICED BODYWEIGHT OF 300LBS

Shit, I appreciate that beef washing may be in diametric opposition to mathamatical ability, but, you really need to think before hitting number lock

wanker!