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The Luke · « **Reply #75 on:** July 22, 2006, 03:50:19 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on July 22, 2006, 10:08:16 AM

I understand that you find it hard to believe but their is a huge height diference between you and Arnold. If I recal right you are 5'6" and Arnold is or was 6'2". His muscle bellies where much longer than the average trainees and therefore 21 inches to him may seem like 19 inches to you.

With regards,
Alexxx -future mr. Olympia and current number one contender for the mr. Getbig.

...Alexxx, I've had my calves as large as 18.75'' cold, they rubbed together when I walked. Even at 17.5'' they look much bigger than Arnold's ever did (yes even '74). Joe Roark, the ironage.us resident iron historian has personally measured Vince Taylor's arm, cold, at 19.75'' (Taylor was 235 at 5'8''), and Lee Priest's at 21.25'' cold (Priest was 220 at 5'5'')... Taylor's arms are more impressive than Arnold's were yet every time Arnold's Encyclopedia is reprinted his measurements become more impressive: first Arnold's top-form arm measurement was 21'', then on another printing that became 22'', and in the latest print run I believe the figure of 22.5'' arms is being bandied about...

I reckon Arnold's arms were between 19'' and 20'' cold in contest shape as the only reliable measurement taken was by bodybuilding's great thinker, Arthur Jones, who reported Arnold's slightly pumped upper arms at 19.25'' and 19.625'' respectively.

Why would anyone believe these exagerations when even Arnold only claimed 20'' calves (implying they were in fact 17.5'' to 18'').... maybe we should all just wait till the 2015 printing of Arnold's Encyclopedia so we can blindly repeat claims of 25'' upper arms and 24'' calves.

Most of the black pros pictured in this thread have calves in the 16'' to 18'' range, despite what they tell you... at 5'4''/5'5'' my 17.5'' (cold) calves consist of a lump of muscle that is actually larger than my entire foot. Compare those proportions to the feet of these pros...

The Luke

alexxx · « **Reply #76 on:** July 22, 2006, 03:53:32 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on July 22, 2006, 03:50:19 PM

...Alexxx, I've had my calves as large as 18.75'' cold, they rubbed together when I walked. Even at 17.5'' they look much bigger than Arnold's ever did (yes even '74). Joe Roark, the ironage.us resident iron historian has personally measured Vince Taylor's arm, cold, at 19.75'' (Taylor was 235 at 5'8''), and Lee Priest's at 21.25'' cold (Priest was 220 at 5'5'')... Taylor's arms are more impressive than Arnold's were yet every time Arnold's Encyclopedia is reprinted his measurements become more impressive: first Arnold's top-form arm measurement was 21'', then on another printing that became 22'', and in the latest print run I believe the figure of 22.5'' arms is being bandied about...

I reckon Arnold's arms were between 19'' and 20'' cold in contest shape as the only reliable measurement taken was by bodybuilding's great thinker, Arthur Jones, who reported Arnold's slightly pumped upper arms at 19.25'' and 19.625'' respectively.

Why would anyone believe these exagerations when even Arnold only claimed 20'' calves (implying they were in fact 17.5'' to 18'').... maybe we should all just wait till the 2015 printing of Arnold's Encyclopedia so we can blindly repeat claims of 25'' upper arms and 24'' calves.

Most of the black pros pictured in this thread have calves in the 16'' to 18'' range, despite what they tell you... at 5'4''/5'5'' my 17.5'' (cold) calves consist of a lump of muscle that is actually larger than my entire foot. Compare those proportions to the feet of these pros...

The Luke

Post a picture and we can decide. As for Arnold's encyclopedias.. they have always claimed 22 1/2" don't know where you get your source from?? I have the old one and studied the new one really well. Arnold's arms are better than Taylor's any day.

alexxx · « **Reply #77 on:** July 22, 2006, 03:57:25 PM »

Quote from: Bast000 on July 22, 2006, 03:46:10 PM

what do your Calves measure Alexander?

Bigger than most pros.

The Luke · « **Reply #78 on:** July 22, 2006, 04:09:48 PM »

Don't you believe my calf claims Alexxx?

I have an old copy of Arnold's "Edumacation of a Bodybuilder" and his top form measurments list 20'' calves, not 21'' as you stated.

The Luke

alexxx · « **Reply #79 on:** July 22, 2006, 04:11:50 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on July 22, 2006, 04:09:48 PM

Don't you believe my calf claims Alexxx?

I have an old copy of Arnold's "Edumacation of a Bodybuilder" and his top form measurments list 20'' calves, not 21'' as you stated.

The Luke

It says 20 in the encyclopedia but in a recen FLEX issue they claimed 21 inches.

quadzilla456 · « **Reply #80 on:** July 22, 2006, 04:12:46 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on July 22, 2006, 03:50:19 PM

...Alexxx, I've had my calves as large as 18.75'' cold, they rubbed together when I walked. Even at 17.5'' they look much bigger than Arnold's ever did (yes even '74). Joe Roark, the ironage.us resident iron historian has personally measured Vince Taylor's arm, cold, at 19.75'' (Taylor was 235 at 5'8''), and Lee Priest's at 21.25'' cold (Priest was 220 at 5'5'')... Taylor's arms are more impressive than Arnold's were yet every time Arnold's Encyclopedia is reprinted his measurements become more impressive: first Arnold's top-form arm measurement was 21'', then on another printing that became 22'', and in the latest print run I believe the figure of 22.5'' arms is being bandied about...

I reckon Arnold's arms were between 19'' and 20'' cold in contest shape as the only reliable measurement taken was by bodybuilding's great thinker, Arthur Jones, who reported Arnold's slightly pumped upper arms at 19.25'' and 19.625'' respectively.

Why would anyone believe these exagerations when even Arnold only claimed 20'' calves (implying they were in fact 17.5'' to 18'').... maybe we should all just wait till the 2015 printing of Arnold's Encyclopedia so we can blindly repeat claims of 25'' upper arms and 24'' calves.

Most of the black pros pictured in this thread have calves in the 16'' to 18'' range, despite what they tell you... at 5'4''/5'5'' my 17.5'' (cold) calves consist of a lump of muscle that is actually larger than my entire foot. Compare those proportions to the feet of these pros...

The Luke

Post up a pic. Remember pictures always make a person look smaller than they really are. I'm going to bet your calves will look smaller than Arnold's. But post up so we can judge.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #81 on:** July 22, 2006, 04:13:33 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on July 22, 2006, 04:09:48 PM

Don't you believe my calf claims Alexxx?

I have an old copy of Arnold's "Edumacation of a Bodybuilder" and his top form measurments list 20'' calves, not 21'' as you stated.

The Luke

Post a pic

gracie bjj · « **Reply #82 on:** July 22, 2006, 06:18:15 PM »

calves are one of those deals where you either have them or you dont

The Luke · « **Reply #83 on:** July 22, 2006, 08:11:16 PM »

Can someone tell me how to resize a pic?

My camera takes 1.2 mb pics.... a bit too big to post up here.

And pic or real life, my calves are those geneitc wonder no-training-needed type... my gastroc muscle extends halfway down my shin and my soleus extends two thirds of the way down my shin. They look huge.

The Luke

JOHN MATRIX · « **Reply #84 on:** July 22, 2006, 08:30:35 PM »

Quote from: gracie bjj on July 22, 2006, 06:18:15 PM

calves are one of those deals where you either have them or you dont

agreed, i will say again, calves are ALL GENETIC.

calves were the first part i Ever worked out cause i realised early on that mine sucked real bad. well here i am, roughly 7 years later of trying everything and i mean everything possible for calves and they are exactly 1/2 inch bigger than when i started. theres not a damn thing i can do about them

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #85 on:** July 22, 2006, 08:57:35 PM »

your calves are only bigger when you put on significant weight

Dorian 01 · « **Reply #86 on:** July 22, 2006, 09:04:34 PM »

Maybe Alexx just doesn't like training calves.

Colossus_1986 · « **Reply #87 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:14:33 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on July 22, 2006, 03:29:46 PM

LOL what the hell do you know about training calves? Doesn't even look like you walk!

What do i know about calves? hahaha

alexxx · « **Reply #88 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:17:19 AM »

Quote from: The Luke on July 22, 2006, 08:11:16 PM

Can someone tell me how to resize a pic?

My camera takes 1.2 mb pics.... a bit too big to post up here.

And pic or real life, my calves are those geneitc wonder no-training-needed type... my gastroc muscle extends halfway down my shin and my soleus extends two thirds of the way down my shin. They look huge.

The Luke

Just send it to me and I will resize it. alexaddstrouble@yahoo.com

alexxx · « **Reply #89 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:22:21 AM »

Quote from: JOHN MATRIX on July 22, 2006, 08:30:35 PM

agreed, i will say again, calves are ALL GENETIC.

calves were the first part i Ever worked out cause i realised early on that mine sucked real bad. well here i am, roughly 7 years later of trying everything and i mean everything possible for calves and they are exactly 1/2 inch bigger than when i started. theres not a damn thing i can do about them

haha no I would have to disagree with you. Calves are the easiest muscles to grow wether your black or white. Here try this! Train them only once a week, 1 work set and this is how its going to go: after the warm ups of course.. Do standing calf raises first thing. full range of motion. 5 second negative and stay at the bottom streched position for 15 seconds and repeat for 10-15 reps. Every week increase the weight/reps every week. Come back and tell me in 2 months what happens oh and thank dc for it.

pobrecito · « **Reply #90 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:24:18 AM »

Quote from: The Luke on July 22, 2006, 03:50:19 PM

...Alexxx, I've had my calves as large as 18.75'' cold, they rubbed together when I walked. Even at 17.5'' they look much bigger than Arnold's ever did (yes even '74). Joe Roark, the ironage.us resident iron historian has personally measured Vince Taylor's arm, cold, at 19.75'' (Taylor was 235 at 5'8''), and Lee Priest's at 21.25'' cold (Priest was 220 at 5'5'')... Taylor's arms are more impressive than Arnold's were yet every time Arnold's Encyclopedia is reprinted his measurements become more impressive: first Arnold's top-form arm measurement was 21'', then on another printing that became 22'', and in the latest print run I believe the figure of 22.5'' arms is being bandied about...

I reckon Arnold's arms were between 19'' and 20'' cold in contest shape as the only reliable measurement taken was by bodybuilding's great thinker, Arthur Jones, who reported Arnold's slightly pumped upper arms at 19.25'' and 19.625'' respectively.

Why would anyone believe these exagerations when even Arnold only claimed 20'' calves (implying they were in fact 17.5'' to 18'').... maybe we should all just wait till the 2015 printing of Arnold's Encyclopedia so we can blindly repeat claims of 25'' upper arms and 24'' calves.

Most of the black pros pictured in this thread have calves in the 16'' to 18'' range, despite what they tell you... at 5'4''/5'5'' my 17.5'' (cold) calves consist of a lump of muscle that is actually larger than my entire foot. Compare those proportions to the feet of these pros...

The Luke

19" calfs on a 5'4" frame...oh brother

Stavios · « **Reply #91 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:25:26 AM »

Quote from: Colossus_1986 on July 23, 2006, 10:14:33 AM

What do i know about calves? hahaha

hahaha owned

Colossus_1986 · « **Reply #92 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:26:40 AM »

Quote from: Colossus_1986 on July 23, 2006, 10:14:33 AM

What do i know about calves? hahaha

SPREAD THE WORD!

alexxx · « **Reply #93 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:27:07 AM »

Quote from: Colossus_1986 on July 23, 2006, 10:14:33 AM

What do i know about calves? hahaha

hahaha your a moron! My legs dwarf you. If I was doing that little gay ballet pose I would be owning you hahaha

Stavios · « **Reply #94 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:28:31 AM »

you are a girly man alexxx !

alexxx · « **Reply #95 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:30:31 AM »

Quote from: Stavios on July 23, 2006, 10:28:31 AM

you are a girly man alexxx !

hahaha maybe if paste you on top of your boyfriend collosus you would be half my size.

Stavios · « **Reply #96 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:32:42 AM »

the only thing you have on me is hair size

You look like a smaller Rob Shneider !

Colossus_1986 · « **Reply #97 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:33:27 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on July 23, 2006, 10:27:07 AM

hahaha your a moron! My legs dwarf you. If I was doing that little gay ballet pose I would be owning you hahaha

only in your delusional world...go cry in your room next to your Frank Sepe posters and your little wal-mart weight set of 29.99$
don't preach to the choir boy...go grow some muscles and for God's sake, take your medication. You rant on shit day in and day out and can't even back it up! Pathetic.

onlyme · « **Reply #98 on:** July 23, 2006, 11:15:25 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on July 23, 2006, 10:22:21 AM

haha no I would have to disagree with you. Calves are the easiest muscles to grow wether your black or white. Here try this! Train them only once a week, 1 work set and this is how its going to go: after the warm ups of course.. Do standing calf raises first thing. full range of motion. 5 second negative and stay at the bottom streched position for 15 seconds and repeat for 10-15 reps. Every week increase the weight/reps every week. Come back and tell me in 2 months what happens oh and thank dc for it.

You forgot to put at the end "do the exact opposite of what I say". Then it would explain your absoultely puny calves. Keep up thedellusional work, you are catching up to Vince.

JOHN MATRIX · « **Reply #99 on:** July 23, 2006, 12:11:59 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on July 23, 2006, 10:22:21 AM

haha no I would have to disagree with you. Calves are the easiest muscles to grow wether your black or white. Here try this! Train them only once a week, 1 work set and this is how its going to go: after the warm ups of course.. Do standing calf raises first thing. full range of motion. 5 second negative and stay at the bottom streched position for 15 seconds and repeat for 10-15 reps. Every week increase the weight/reps every week. Come back and tell me in 2 months what happens oh and thank dc for it.

alexxx ive tried stuff like that ....makes my calves extremely sore, so i know they got worked, but the thing is they never get bigger, just stay sore for a long, long time and never grow