Author Topic: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out (Read 40485 times)

honest · « **Reply #300 on:** July 27, 2006, 09:45:27 PM »

Quote from: Shawn Ray on July 27, 2006, 06:29:10 AM

Well, one person does not make a Contest so hopefully Vinny will recover and compete next year...........if there is a next year!
Let the games begin!
Who's left to compete in the show, anyone got a list of the competition?

FUCK OFF, YOUR A DEA INFORMANT NONE OF US LIKE YOU, OR RESPECT YOU ANYMORE YOU PIECE OF SHIT, YOUR OPINION COUNTS FOR NOTHING.

jaejonna · « **Reply #301 on:** July 28, 2006, 05:52:26 AM »

Quote from: honest on July 27, 2006, 09:45:27 PM

f**k OFF, YOUR A DEA INFORMANT NONE OF US LIKE YOU, OR RESPECT YOU ANYMORE YOU PIECE OF SHIT, YOUR OPINION COUNTS FOR NOTHING.

hahhaha oh brother , Melt...meet Down ...

Gordon_Gekko · « **Reply #302 on:** July 28, 2006, 06:12:48 AM »

Quote from: honest on July 27, 2006, 09:45:27 PM

f**k OFF, YOUR A DEA INFORMANT NONE OF US LIKE YOU, OR RESPECT YOU ANYMORE YOU PIECE OF SHIT, YOUR OPINION COUNTS FOR NOTHING.

Don't hold anything back - tell him how you REALLY feel...

sgt. d · « **Reply #303 on:** July 28, 2006, 06:30:27 AM »

Quote from: onlyme on July 27, 2006, 08:53:31 PM

haha asswipe the only way you could even close to hurting me is with a gun. See pussys use guns, hence your a pussy. I have no problem saying that to the top of your head as I look down on your short skinny ass. Another wannabe. Man Ron, this place is attracting a bunch of no names dipshits lately. Allot of mouths with absolutely nothing to back it up. This ~~gay~~ guy talks allot of shit that comes directly out of his mouth. No picture, no name just a gay monicker. Man, I really didn't know their were so many idiots out there like this queer. srg stand down and give me 20 okay 5 since you can't do 20.

"short skinny ass"

6'2 245 is short and skinny?

Nobody is stalking you? Who are you? I see you like to crack jokes on alexx but dude you ain't even in my league.
That spider fuck up your way of thinking. I wasn't going to say anything to you but seen you constantly bashing pro or non pro bodybuilders on here all the time.If you don't like bodybuilding then why do you bring your fat ass on here. I been doing this shit for 20 years u fat fuck. Its funny how you are losing in an argument and all you can do is call somebody gay. Go back to armwrestling or whatever the fuck you do, or doing your little commercials. I see you can give any fat little nerd a computer and they come on a message board like they are running things.I don't have to post my pic or put my info out in here. Why should I? You ain't even worth my time, but I did enjoy your movie
"99 ways for a fuck pig to out run a spider"

PS. Next time I visit my son at University of Hawaii at Manoa, come up to my face and tell me how you feel. Don't worry i will leave the guns at home. The few sharks in Hawaii are going to have a feast when i throw your heavy ass in the water. Keep it up tubby, and the ppl here on getbig wont be seeing you post anymore.

sgt. d · « **Reply #304 on:** July 28, 2006, 06:32:31 AM »

sarcasm or whoever, post meltdown I dont care

this punk guy is going to get it

jaejonna · « **Reply #305 on:** July 28, 2006, 06:38:20 AM »

Quote from: sgt. d on July 28, 2006, 06:30:27 AM

"short skinny ass"

6'2 245 is short and skinny?

Nobody is stalking you? Who are you? I see you like to crack jokes on alexx but dude you ain't even in my league.
That spider f**k up your way of thinking. I wasn't going to say anything to you but seen you constantly bashing pro or non pro bodybuilders on here all the time.If you don't like bodybuilding then why do you bring your fat ass on here. I been doing this shit for 20 years u fat f**k. Its funny how you are losing in an argument and all you can do is call somebody gay. Go back to armwrestling or whatever the f**k you do, or doing your little commercials. I see you can give any fat little nerd a computer and they come on a message board like they are running things.I don't have to post my pic or put my info out in here. Why should I? You ain't even worth my time, but I did enjoy your movie
"99 ways for a f**k pig to out run a spider"

PS. Next time I visit my son at University of Hawaii at Manoa, come up to my face and tell me how you feel. Don't worry i will leave the guns at home. The few sharks in Hawaii are going to have a feast when i throw your heavy ass in the water. Keep it up tubby, and the ppl here on getbig wont be seeing you post anymore.

When you want to make arrangements to meet someone from the boards to 'punk' them out... well that only means one thing..

sgt. d · « **Reply #306 on:** July 28, 2006, 06:41:48 AM »

Quote from: jaejonna on July 28, 2006, 06:38:20 AM

When you want to make arrangements to meet someone from the boards to 'punk' them out... well that only means one thing..

yeah whatever little man

nycbull · « **Reply #307 on:** July 28, 2006, 07:23:39 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 27, 2006, 09:33:00 PM

The problem is, the invitation contained a small economics puzzle, requiring basic understanding of monopoly/free market competition concepts on a 7th grade level.

Many are still decoding it.

240 your economics lesson is right on, but its not that these guys aren't getting it, its that they are having too much fun watching or hoping for the PDI's demise. The bottom line is that the guys on this board are so far removed from any benefit of a new federation that they would rather just enjoy a train wreck than think through the consequences. And however illogical as it is, the PDI is taking the brunt of their anomosity towards bodybuilders. Its like a crowd of people shouting around a building "Jump" to a would be suicider. They might not be all bad people but they just don't care about someone they don't know and in no way would ever benefit from. Their anomosity and apathy gets the best of them, at the expense of some innocent guy. On September 11th a lot of the disenfranchised population of NY were excited and even cheered when the buildings collapsed, believe or not but they did. It was like a movie to many of them, They were so far removed from the rich people in the WTC they really didn't care if it collapsed or not and in some ways were happy about it. In that moment it was far more exciting to see the disaster happen to people they didn't really know or care about. It served them no benefit to feel anguish or sadness, whether the people suffered or not really didn't matter, their lives would not change one bit. Why not enjoy the train wreck.

THis "Jump" mentality reveals the deep seeded resentment of fans towards the bb industry. Maybe the current bb Industry cultivated it but why take it out on the PDI.

ribonucleic · « **Reply #308 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:00:15 AM »

Quote from: nycbull on July 28, 2006, 07:23:39 AM

240 your economics lesson is right on, but its not that these guys aren't getting it, its that they are having too much fun watching or hoping for the PDI's demise. The bottom line is that the guys on this board are so far removed from any benefit of a new federation that they would rather just enjoy a train wreck than think through the consequences. And however illogical as it is, the PDI is taking the brunt of their anomosity towards bodybuilders. Its like a crowd of people shouting around a building "Jump" to a would be suicider. They might not be all bad people but they just don't care about someone they don't know and in no way would ever benefit from. Their anomosity and apathy gets the best of them, at the expense of some innocent guy. On September 11th a lot of the disenfranchised population of NY were excited and even cheered when the buildings collapsed, believe or not but they did. It was like a movie to many of them, They were so far removed from the rich people in the WTC they really didn't care if it collapsed or not and in some ways were happy about it. In that moment it was far more exciting to see the disaster happen to people they didn't really know or care about. It served them no benefit to feel anguish or sadness, whether the people suffered or not really didn't matter, their lives would not change one bit. Why not enjoy the train wreck.

Your analogy is specious, sir.

Someone threatening to jump from a building is a fellow human being in a pitiable state of insanity or despair. Hence the gloating bystanders represent a failure of our humanity - which has depressing implications for everyone, even those not at the scene.

The PDI is not a human being. It is a business entity [allegedly! -

] - a legal/financial construct that exists only in drily-written documents sitting in a file cabinet somewhere. It cannot "die" as men die. And its demise has no bearing on the viability of non-bodybuilding-related, more-intelligently-conceived enterprises.

So, in the words of Zach de la Rocha...

"Burn! Burn! Yes, you're gonna burn!"

Adam Empire · « **Reply #309 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:04:05 AM »

Quote from: DonDan on July 27, 2006, 05:45:54 AM

As I've mentioned before in another thread, It's a bit disengenuous to assert there was a $66K increase in Olympic money. It's all smoke and mirrors. When in actuality there was a total of only $6k added to the prize money. What they have done is to redistribute the money ALREADY there. You had $50K already there is some rediculous pose down round and $10K in another. There was NO increase in what the athletes were already getting except for $6k, and a redistributing of the original $60K. So let's not go tooting the IFBB or for that matter your horn Bob. Ok, if you got them to redistribute the wealth fine, but don't take credit for some phantom $66K prize money raise. It just makes you look foolish to those of us with a degree in accounting.

This is correct - I hope people read it well...

240 is Back · « **Reply #310 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:07:34 AM »

Quote from: ribonucleic on July 28, 2006, 08:00:15 AM

Your analogy is specious, sir.

Someone threatening to jump from a building is a fellow human being in a pitiable state of insanity or despair. Hence the gloating bystanders represent a failure of our humanity - which has depressing implications for everyone, even those not at the scene.

The PDI is not a human being. It is a business entity [allegedly! - ] - a legal/financial construct that exists only in drily-written documents sitting in a file cabinet somewhere. It cannot "die" as men die. And its demise has no bearing on the viability of non-bodybuilding-related, more-intelligently-conceived enterprises.

So, in the words of Zach de la Rocha...

"Burn! Burn! Yes, you're gonna burn!"

Still makes no sense. You're a fan of bodybulding, yet you are doing your part to bash something that:
1) We all have been given very few details about
2) will improve IFBB prize money
3) will pressure the IFBB to actually follow its own gut mandate
4) will improve quality of shows.

Truth is, we have been given very little information from Wayne about the PDI business model - it's a priate corporation. Obviously, when the health plan info was released, people called the hospital nonstop asking for details, then declared it a fraud when the kid at the frotn desk woudln't reveal info about a client... What hospital would? When other info is released, the IFBB toolbox will do everything it can to sabotage it (Dex, here's second at the O - stay home Sept 16. Vince Taylor, here's a supplement deal post-dated Jan 1, 07- stay home Sept 16th.)

Sheeit, if I was Wayne, i wouldn't be revealing much info either. Bob Chic and crew will probably bribe, beg, or threaten everyone you're involved with to make it a failure.

Adam Empire · « **Reply #311 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:09:05 AM »

Quote from: Lee_a_priest on July 27, 2006, 07:37:54 AM

No i spoke to Twinlab way before i signed and they didn't have a problem with it.Unlike another company i was talking to how was thinking of signing me but got pressure from you know who not to .Oh what a game the ifbb play pretty funny and childish.I am sure other companies would stepp up if the stupid threats from the IFBB stopped.

This is why I BUY TWINLAB. PERIOD.

240 is Back · « **Reply #312 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:09:26 AM »

Quote from: DonDan on July 27, 2006, 05:45:54 AM

As I've mentioned before in another thread, It's a bit disengenuous to assert there was a $66K increase in Olympic money. It's all smoke and mirrors. When in actuality there was a total of only $6k added to the prize money. What they have done is to redistribute the money ALREADY there. You had $50K already there is some rediculous pose down round and $10K in another. There was NO increase in what the athletes were already getting except for $6k, and a redistributing of the original $60K. So let's not go tooting the IFBB or for that matter your horn Bob. Ok, if you got them to redistribute the wealth fine, but don't take credit for some phantom $66K prize money raise. It just makes you look foolish to those of us with a degree in accounting.

Not only that, but every contestant got $2k last year, right? So while $4k this year is good, it's not like they were getting zero last year.

nycbull · « **Reply #313 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:14:35 AM »

I think Rhino did the right thing. He clearly had good intentions and was trying to help all parties involved. The tone of his post clearly had no malice in it whatsoever . Vinny should see this and patch up his friendship. Rhino is a grown man who made an informed thoughtful executive decision based on the information he had in effort to do good to help the community. And in the end he squashed a destructive malicious rumour like a bug.

Also for those of you who are questioning his stature as a bodybuilder. He has a great physique, the kind that many of you have said you wish the bodybuilding community would go back to. He looks healthy and fit. The type we need way more of. Hel, What do you guys want?

Also, you should realize he was signed because he is a great Type. He is an All-american, handsome, squared jawed big white guy. He is what Americans love. Whether you like it or not this type sells big, the PDI was right on to sign him up. He will bring in more fans and sell more products than many other bigger extreme looking guys.

jaejonna · « **Reply #314 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:17:00 AM »

I concurr with Rhino outing the info to save the rumours from destroying PDI (or whats left of it) however, he could of assumed a gimmick account ... just my two cents.

ribonucleic · « **Reply #315 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:25:12 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 28, 2006, 08:07:34 AM

Still makes no sense. You're a fan of bodybulding, yet you are doing your part to bash something that:
1) We all have been given very few details about
2) will improve IFBB prize money
3) will pressure the IFBB to actually follow its own gut mandate
4) will improve quality of shows.

Truth is, we have been given very little information from Wayne about the PDI business model - it's a priate corporation. Obviously, when the health plan info was released, people called the hospital nonstop asking for details, then declared it a fraud when the kid at the frotn desk woudln't reveal info about a client... What hospital would? When other info is released, the IFBB toolbox will do everything it can to sabotage it (Dex, here's second at the O - stay home Sept 16. Vince Taylor, here's a supplement deal post-dated Jan 1, 07- stay home Sept 16th.)

Sheeit, if I was Wayne, i wouldn't be revealing much info either. Bob Chic and crew will probably bribe, beg, or threaten everyone you're involved with to make it a failure.

I was only making a limited observation about the "jumper" analogy. And I'm on record elsewhere as saying that nothing would make me happier than if a rival organization was successful enough to kick the IFBB in the institutional nuts.

But the few things that we do know about the PDI give us more than enough cause for a rich, juicy skepticism.

1. It's being run by Wayne DeMilia - a man with a long and established track record of screwing over bodybuilders. [Whether at his own behest or as a hatchet man for the Weiders making no difference to my mind.]

2. It's now down to a grand total of one marquee competitor and "pros" determined essentially by fiat. Comparisons to the Harlem Globetrotters playing the Washington Generals come to mind.

3. Qualifying events "rescheduled".

4. Yahoo e-mail address. No comment necessary.

By all means, 240 - keep holding out for a hero. But it ain't Wayne, babe. It ain't Wayne you're looking for.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #316 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:25:25 AM »

I see the PDI offering these positives:

1. An alternative....gets boring seeing the same top 3 guys at the Olympia
2. More competitions and $ for pro athletes. Additionally, more pro athletes. There aren't that many male BBing pros.
3. A return to more aesthetic muscular physiques. Huge IMO. The IFBB judges are inconsistant and mass above all wins at the bigger IFBB shows. This is an opportunity to standardize scoring from ground zero and be consistant. Way too many guys with health problems these days chasing extremes. The blocky physiques and bloated guts have gotten way out of hand for 90% of fans.
4. More excitement and entertainment with shows. Posing round, scoreboard, crowd interaction, etc.
5. The ability to bring in some new names from Europe and other countries. Europeans often fight an uphill battle in the IFBB unless they are promoted hard.

nycbull · « **Reply #317 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:30:40 AM »

Quote from: ribonucleic on July 28, 2006, 08:00:15 AM

The PDI is not a human being. It is a business entity [allegedly! - ] - a legal/financial construct that exists only in drily-written documents sitting in a file cabinet somewhere. It cannot "die" as men die. And its demise has no bearing on the viability of non-bodybuilding-related, more-intelligently-conceived enterprises.

So, in the words of Zach de la Rocha...

"Burn! Burn! Yes, you're gonna burn!"

But the posters on this board see the PDI not as a business entity but as Wayne and Lee and all the other bodybuilders trying to pursue happiness and prosperity. Wanting them to jump or "burn" is completely illogical and unhealthy to the bb community as a whole and it reveals something about the gloating bystanders.

The only ones that want to see the PDI demise are the rubber-neckers and the people and representatives with a vested interest in the IFBB.

MCWAY · « **Reply #318 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:32:57 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 26, 2006, 09:04:21 PM

Yes. i have constructed an analogy which clearly puts the IFBB fan/athlete perspective into the grocery store environment so that all can understand it.

High-fiving because you are now working under the thumb of a monopoly - dancing and cheering as your only bargaining chip walks out the door - the ultimate in self-defeat.

Dancing and cheering? I believe that falls squarely on you and other folks who were singing the praises of PDI, doing the happy dance of joy, and all but writing the eulogy of the IFBB, before PDI even got one contest off the ground.

PDI was supposed to take over. Disgruntled IFBB pros were supposed to migrate en masse, like the Israelites during the Exodus from Egypt. PDI was supposed to be the "promised land". DeMilla, with the robe and staff, was the deliverer (the one-time "prince" of the IFBB, banished to the desert), now returning to free the "slaves" of bodybuilding from the evil Pharoah Weider, ruler of IFBB to PDI, the alleged land, flowing with (Muscle) Milk and (fitness) Honeys.

Heck, the only thing missing was a Negro spiritual:

When musclemen were in Weider-land
LET MY PEOPLE GO!!!
The mass so great, they could not stand
LET MY PEOPLE GO!!!

And, of course, this "Exodus" was to be chronicled in the so-called "hardcore" bodybuilding magazine, known as Muscular Development.

ribonucleic · « **Reply #319 on:** July 28, 2006, 08:45:26 AM »

Quote from: nycbull on July 28, 2006, 08:30:40 AM

But the posters on this board see the PDI not as a business entity but as Wayne and Lee and all the other bodybuilders trying to pursue happiness and prosperity.

Don't go all Jefferson on me now.

Everyone likes Lee, I think. Surely no one begrudges him collecting an extra paycheck for beating up on some wannabes onstage. But surely he'll do fine either way.

[Though maybe I shouldn't presume. What about it, Lee? Are you relying on your NOC check to put chicken breasts on the table?

]

As for Wayne, why shouldn't we wish him ill? His unpopularity is richly deserved, IMHO.

I guess it would be nice for the little guys to have a "AAA league" to do their thing in. I still see no reason for optimism that the PDI is a viable route for giving them one.

But you've adeptly played the sympathy card. So what the hell. Best of luck to them.

nycbull · « **Reply #320 on:** July 28, 2006, 09:09:50 AM »

Quote from: ribonucleic on July 28, 2006, 08:45:26 AM

But you've adeptly played the sympathy card. So what the hell. Best of luck to them.

Thanks, its one of my tools. Glad to see you have a heart.

I tried it again with my Rhino post above. Any thoughts on that one?

legbreaker · « **Reply #321 on:** July 28, 2006, 09:30:58 AM »

No matter how good Lee is and has proven to be he should not go into this contest lightly....many times a much more successful boxer has been beaten because he didn't prepare 100%.

michael arvilla · « **Reply #322 on:** July 28, 2006, 09:48:36 AM »

Nearly 2 feet of 'rope'. This is the good stuff.

FYI... it didn't fall apart when extracted from the commode.

michael arvilla · « **Reply #323 on:** July 28, 2006, 09:49:50 AM »

Notice the density and texture.

This nicely signifies the elimination of long-term waste.

ribonucleic · « **Reply #324 on:** July 28, 2006, 09:53:39 AM »

Quote from: nycbull on July 28, 2006, 08:14:35 AM

He is an All-american, handsome, squared jawed big white guy.

Do you find him attractive, Beavis? heh heh, heh heh...

Well, I've posted before that no one but Galanti has any standing to bitch about Rhino's "disclosure". Correspondingly, I would say he's the only one with the right to let him off the hook.

Didn't get my panties in a bunch either way.