Chick You owe me an apology

[kmhphoto]

Are there still 2 NABBA organizations in Europe? 

There is

NABBA UK
NABBA International
NABBA Germany
NABBA Italy
NABBA Austria
NABBA Ukraine

The original is NABBA UK

[240 is Back]

Care to comment, 240?

Well, you're crapping on the reputation of a well-respected and longtime Bbing industry guy.

I figured I'd just let you stand by that statement. 

If you have issue with something he did, okay then.  But if you're just smearing his reputation for no reason, well, I'll let you stand by that.

[Chick]

1.) I have nothing to do with Gruskin, never have.

2.) Gruskin has no knowledge of this show, either.... he wasn't there, didn't name a judge that was there, doesn't have a scoresheet, doesn't have a video, doesn't have a picture...why would I trust his word?

For all I know, he could be blowing smoke and covering his ass, because jack didn't really qualify for the World's, which would really make them look bad...

Why WOULD I take his word for it??

I outlined EXACTLY why I don't believe him...ONCE AGAIN...Do you care to commment on those reasons, or are you going to pussy out again?

[kmhphoto]

For all I know, he could be blowing smoke and covering his ass, because jack didn't really qualify for the World's, which would really make them look bad...

Unlike a lot of national level shows the winner was not assured of an invite to the World Championships. Mr Gruskin has confirmed that since 1995 "if" the NA's were held by NABBA USA they "can" qualify competitors for the Worlds.

[240 is Back]

I outlined EXACTLY why I don't believe him...ONCE AGAIN...Do you care to commment on those reasons, or are you going to pussy out again?

Let's not argue, Bob.  Let's put money down.  You and me.  Are you game?

[DonDan]

Unlike a lot of national level shows the winner was not assured of an invite to the World Championships. Mr Gruskin has confirmed that since 1995 "if" the NA's were held by NABBA USA they "can" qualify competitors for the Worlds.

"Messer's K & H assure the public their production will be second to none" So are you saying Kevin, that a long time, respected physique photographer who has photographed countless numbers of athletes accepts the word of Mr. Gruskin, another well respected name in the bodybuilding industry as it relates to qualifing for the Worlds, and chic doesn't? Can anyone be so blinded by their own vanity?

[Matt C]

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[LuciusFox]

Dude, he's the president of an organization which can't even seem to keep track of results from a year ago, let alone almost 11.  Yeah, I think Bob has reason to doubt his credibility!

 What did Bob look at that confirmed that Jack won the show? I'm almost certain that Jack won, but what was Mr. Grushkin looking at ? Is he relying on memory?

[kmhphoto]

 What did Bob look at that confirmed that Jack won the show? I'm almost certain that Jack won, but what was Mr. Grushkin looking at ? Is he relying on memory?

He has no records because they were lost in a fire.

[Matt C]

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[240 is Back]

 What did Bob look at that confirmed that Jack won the show? I'm almost certain that Jack won, but what was Mr. Grushkin looking at ? Is he relying on memory?

Nope, Gruskin referred to teh full winners list that year all the way down to honor roll.  Jack was listed as the overall winner. 

[sgt. d]

He has no records because they were lost in a fire.

lol

[kmhphoto]

He has no records because they were lost in a fire.

lol

Unfortunately there are no records of the fire either.

[sgt. d]

Unfortunately there are no records of the fire either.

maybe the fire was invisible

[bmacsys]

the studies have been done, by medical profesisonals. The results of these tests are available on the internet and in various medical journals. The numbers do not lie.  I will take their word over yours.  It is not healthy for a child to develop with elderly parents.  Too large of a generational gap makes social and mental development awkward.  It's like being raised by your grandparents.  Not the worst thing that can happen, but not the greatest either. 
Aside form that, there is also the possibility of birth defects and greater chance for other genetic issues.  Medical statistic prove this.

You should have been thrown away in the rubber my friend.

[bmacsys]

Whether what you say is valid or not, there's one thing you're forgetting:  if Bob wants to have a child at 40 (or at 80 for that matter), that's his business not yours.  Like bmacsys said, this is America, not China.

Hope this helps.

My wifes folks were over 40 when she and her sister were born. I don't see his point.

[DEFCON]

Nothing like two stupid juiceheads arguing...