Author Topic: PICTURES of an amazing NATURAL. (Read 14306 times)

jr · « **Reply #100 on:** August 15, 2006, 12:23:22 AM »

Let me guess his dimensions:

Arms: 14.5
Legs: 23
Calves: 13.5
Waist: 26
Chest: 42

kyomu · « **Reply #101 on:** August 15, 2006, 03:13:19 AM »

Honestly I saw many natural guys more ripped than guys who use gear.
I dont know why.

flowdan · « **Reply #102 on:** August 15, 2006, 03:41:31 AM »

What kind of diet/supplements would help take to get to that kind of condition without losing too much muscle?

kyomu · « **Reply #103 on:** August 15, 2006, 04:39:50 AM »

Quote from: flowdan on August 15, 2006, 03:41:31 AM

What kind of diet/supplements would help take to get to that kind of condition without losing too much muscle?

I think its because of super genetic.
Or very slow dieting. Just eat very strict a couple of years(Its very tough!!!) and clean your body little by little and possibly gain muscle mass also.
And 3 month before show,do real diet(decending the carb intake) for the show.
So you already have small percantage of body fat,its way easier to get cut without expence of muscle.

jonno gb · « **Reply #104 on:** August 15, 2006, 06:34:52 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on August 15, 2006, 03:13:19 AM

Honestly I saw many natural guys more ripped than guys who use gear.
I dont know why.

I think it's because naturals tend not to hold as much water which can be caused by steroid use.Lots of the top UK naturals get in better condition than the assisted athletes just not as big and thick.

Not sure why everyone is knocking this guy though.He has a good symettrical physique,very aesthetic and great condition. It doesn't matter what he weighs or what his measurements are-it's what he looks like on stage that counts.Natural bodybuilders create an illusion of size through conditioning and aesthetics.Try going to a few shows-you may be suprised.

Dball · « **Reply #105 on:** August 15, 2006, 06:53:23 AM »

http://www.davegoodin.com/

dave is a LIFETIME natural. thats how we do it in texas...

Sir William Idol · « **Reply #106 on:** August 15, 2006, 06:54:02 AM »

Quote from: Dball on August 15, 2006, 06:53:23 AM

http://www.davegoodin.com/

dave is a LIFETIME natural. thats how we do it in texas...

thanks dave

The True Adonis · « **Reply #107 on:** August 15, 2006, 07:09:00 AM »

In given time, Naturals can get in much better condition then non-naturals....Its just a matter of purging ALL of the fat.

Don`t expect 12-16 weeks. It takes longer.

davidpaul · « **Reply #108 on:** August 15, 2006, 07:21:21 AM »

Quote from: Dball on August 15, 2006, 06:53:23 AM

http://www.davegoodin.com/

dave is a LIFETIME natural. thats how we do it in texas...

John Mcenroe has put on some good size since retiring.

Krankenstein · « **Reply #109 on:** August 15, 2006, 07:33:01 AM »

Quote from: davidpaul on August 15, 2006, 07:21:21 AM

John Mcenroe has out on some good size since retiring.

Thats dave goodin in the pic

TheGoldenPrince · « **Reply #110 on:** August 15, 2006, 08:17:21 AM »

Best natural of all time.

willie mosconi · « **Reply #111 on:** August 15, 2006, 08:54:20 AM »

Quote from: DrugFree4Life on August 15, 2006, 07:33:01 AM

Thats dave goodin in the pic

he was kidding

john mcenroe was a great tennis player in the 80s- kinda looks like this dave mo fo

Bill · « **Reply #112 on:** August 15, 2006, 10:20:36 AM »

Quote from: Bast000 on August 14, 2006, 06:55:50 PM

It would be cool to see you add some input to the natural board here.

I'll check it out later and see if there are any threads i can add my 2 cents to. I'm keeping a current journal as I train for the World Amateur Championships. You can check it out here:
http://www.fitness-nutrition.com/2006world/2006intro.html
Bill

Bast000 · « **Reply #113 on:** August 15, 2006, 10:30:50 AM »

Quote from: Bill on August 15, 2006, 10:20:36 AM

I'll check it out later and see if there are any threads i can add my 2 cents to. I'm keeping a current journal as I train for the World Amateur Championships. You can check it out here:
http://www.fitness-nutrition.com/2006world/2006intro.html
Bill

There's a lot of good information on your site, thanks.

UK Gold · « **Reply #114 on:** August 15, 2006, 12:43:59 PM »

That guy is in fantastic shape, but whilst wearing clothes not only would he look like hes never worked out, he would probably look like hes got anorexia. Why would anyone want to be that small? I will kill myself the day my arms drop under 18inches

The True Adonis · « **Reply #115 on:** August 15, 2006, 12:48:45 PM »

Quote from: UK Gold on August 15, 2006, 12:43:59 PM

That guy is in fantastic shape, but whilst wearing clothes not only would he look like hes never worked out, he would probably look like hes got anorexia. Why would anyone want to be that small? I will kill myself the day my arms drop under 18inches

Gun, Knife or Poison?

UK Gold · « **Reply #116 on:** August 15, 2006, 12:50:14 PM »

All three. I'm hardcore

caseyviator · « **Reply #117 on:** August 15, 2006, 11:34:06 PM »

Quote from: jonno gb on August 15, 2006, 06:34:52 AM

I think it's because naturals tend not to hold as much water which can be caused by steroid use.Lots of the top UK naturals get in better condition than the assisted athletes just not as big and thick.

Not sure why everyone is knocking this guy though.He has a good symettrical physique,very aesthetic and great condition. It doesn't matter what he weighs or what his measurements are-it's what he looks like on stage that counts.Natural bodybuilders create an illusion of size through conditioning and aesthetics.Try going to a few shows-you may be suprised.

i agree ..i dont think hes natural but at most low level or national qualifier npc shows in his weight class hed be in the top 3,,

guy is totally shredded up n he still can probably cut water b4 show n be even harder

props to the guy he looks great

arce377 · « **Reply #118 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:23:28 AM »

NATURAL MY ASS.

cornebb · « **Reply #119 on:** August 16, 2006, 02:54:30 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on August 14, 2006, 01:08:57 PM

Thats crazy

kyomu · « **Reply #120 on:** August 16, 2006, 03:36:56 AM »

Quote from: jonno gb on August 15, 2006, 06:34:52 AM

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Not sure why everyone is knocking this guy though.He has a good symettrical physique,very aesthetic and great condition. It doesn't matter what he weighs or what his measurements are-it's what he looks like on stage that counts.Natural bodybuilders create an illusion of size through conditioning and aesthetics.Try going to a few shows-you may be suprised.

Yeah.I agree with you 100%.
Once i saw 75kg guy beat 116kg guy(IFBB PRO Armando Arcasal) with my own eyes.
And surely this tiny amateur beat that IFBB PRO!
Like Shawn or Lee Labrada beats huge monster!

~salmon~ · « **Reply #121 on:** August 16, 2006, 11:03:49 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on August 15, 2006, 07:09:00 AM

In given time, Naturals can get in much better condition then non-naturals....Its just a matter of purging ALL of the fat.

Don`t expect 12-16 weeks. It takes longer.

Wrong. Even if a natty is able to get below 4-5%BF naturally (not easy unless you are genetically predisposed to do so), he will not look as hard, dry and full as someone who uses drugs and knows what they're doing.

Don't believe me? Just look at the line up of the top ten "naturals" vs. the top ten at the Mr. Olympia. The juice monkeys have waaay better conditioning.

BTW, I know several nattys who compete who use epehedra, clen, thyroids, diuretics, etc. Their definition of being clean is to not use AAS or Growth

natural al · « **Reply #122 on:** August 16, 2006, 11:05:36 AM »

Quote from: ~salmon~ on August 16, 2006, 11:03:49 AM

Wrong. Even if a natty is able to get below 4-5%BF naturally (not easy unless you are genetically predisposed to do so), he will not look as hard, dry and full as someone who uses drugs and knows what they're doing.

Don't believe me? Just look at the line up of the top ten "naturals" vs. the top ten at the Mr. Olympia. The juice monkeys have waaay better conditioning.

BTW, I know several nattys who compete who use epehedra, clen, thyroids, diuretics, etc. Their definition of being clean is to not use AAS or Growth

I don't know alot about AAS but isn't clen an aas?

~salmon~ · « **Reply #123 on:** August 16, 2006, 11:12:40 AM »

Quote from: natural al on August 16, 2006, 11:05:36 AM

I don't know alot about AAS but isn't clen an aas?

No it's not. BTW, pro hormone use is also rampant amoung "natural" competitors. These are AAS precursors so as far as I'm concerned, if you're on prohormones, you're on gear...

The True Adonis · « **Reply #124 on:** August 16, 2006, 11:14:21 AM »

Quote from: ~salmon~ on August 16, 2006, 11:12:40 AM

No it's not. BTW, pro hormone use is also rampant amoung "natural" competitors. These are AAS precursors so as far as I'm concerned, if you're on prohormones, you're on gear...

I agree.