Hurricane Katrina Memorial Questioned by ACLU

[Butterbean]

 The crassness of your arguments are amazing.

and familiar   

[Tyrone Power]

That's quite an interesting take on those groups.

It's the only take on them. They themselves identify as "Right wing" and "Conservative". They fit the mold of "right wing". Nazism itself is by definition a right wing political philosophy. The KKK has endorsed far right wing politicans since it began. Groups like the "Aryan brotherhood" or other white power groups also have far right wing affiliations.

[Tyrone Power]

If these cases are so "open-and-shut", like the 10 Commandments case, then why did the ACLU lose?  Why is the ACLU about to lose the Mt. Soledad case?  And so on.  C'mon bro, just admit that they aren't what they used to be, and the cases they take now specifically harass no other religion but those of the Christian faith.  The crassness of your arguments are amazing.

Concluding they are "wrong" because they lost is a logical fallacy. Basically an appeal to popular opinion.

They lost because the jury or the judges in the cases were bias.

[Butterbean]

It's the only take on them. They themselves identify as "Right wing" and "Conservative". They fit the mold of "right wing". Nazism itself is by definition a right wing political philosophy. The KKK has endorsed far right wing politicans since it began. Groups like the "Aryan brotherhood" or other white power groups also have far right wing affiliations.

Hitler identified himself as a Christian.  Some bodybuilders identify themselves as 1st tier.  It doesn't make it so.

Groups endorsing other groups doesn't make them the same group.

[Colossus_500]

Concluding they are "wrong" because they lost is a logical fallacy. Basically an appeal to popular opinion.

They lost because the jury or the judges in the cases were bias.

And you're saying that you aren't biased?   

[Tyrone Power]

Hitler identified himself as a Christian.  Some bodybuilders identify themselves as 1st tier.  It doesn't make it so.

Groups endorsing other groups doesn't make them the same group.

Compairing Hitler identifying himself as Christian and bodybuilders identifying themselves as 1st tier pro's is completly different. The definition of "Christian" is vague and extremly ambiguous. There are thousands of definitions of "Christian".

Groups endorsing other groups doesn't make them similar. It just means the group endorsing the others supports them. Which is the entire point.


When have you see Neo-nazi's or the KKK endorsing left wing politicans?


Are you actually arguing the KKK isn't a right wing group?

[Colossus_500]

Hitler identified himself as a Christian.  Some bodybuilders identify themselves as 1st tier.  It doesn't make it so.

Groups endorsing other groups doesn't make them the same group.

Well said, Stella.

[Dos Equis]

Concluding they are "wrong" because they lost is a logical fallacy. Basically an appeal to popular opinion.

They lost because the jury or the judges in the cases were bias.

Dude that is such a copout.  How do you know the judges were biased?

[Colossus_500]

Are you actually arguing the KKK isn't a right wing group?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most original KKK members from the Democratic party?  Sen. Dick Byrd from WV immediately comes to mind.

[Jay5683]

The ACLU should move its headquarters to Iran.

[Butterbean]

The definition of "Christian" is vague and extremly ambiguous. There are thousands of definitions of "Christian".

No.  The correct definition of a Christian is a person that acknowledges their need for a savior and has accepted Christ as such.

I do agree that there are people who incorrectly believe that the definition of Christian is something else though, such as "being a good person," or "being of a certain denomination" or whatever.  But if they haven't accepted Christ as savior, they are not Christians.

[Tyrone Power]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most original KKK members from the Democratic party?  Sen. Dick Byrd from WV immediately comes to mind.

That's because the Democratic party and the Republican party of the late 19th century were very very different than the modern parties.

Moving into the early 20th century when the republican party started being more and more conservative you start to see most KKK members were republicans. For instance Edward Jackson who was elected govenor in Indiana and was a Republican.

In modern times most KKK members aren't even republicans because they consider the republican party to be too "liberal" or "left wing" for their tastes.

[Colossus_500]

That's because the Democratic party and the Republican party of the late 19th century were very very different than the modern parties.

Moving into the early 20th century when the republican party started being more and more conservative you start to see most KKK members were republicans. For instance Edward Jackson who was elected govenor in Indiana and was a Republican.

In modern times most KKK members aren't even republicans because they consider the republican party to be too "liberal" or "left wing" for their tastes.

Hence the reason Americans shouldn't vote down party lines, but by issue instead.

[Tyrone Power]

No.  The correct definition of a Christian is a person that acknowledges their need for a savior and has accepted Christ as such.

No. That's your definition of "Christian". However millions of christians would disagree.

Millions of Christians would say that simply "accepting jesus" isn't enough to be a Christian.
There are literally thousands of denominations out there and they all disagree on who is or isn't a Christian. Many say you must do specific things and not do specific things to be considered a true christian. They all generally differ. Many consider George Bush jr. a definite Christian. Many consider him not to be a Christian.

[Jay5683]

I totally disagree and I am a straight ballot on the FAR FAR FAR right!

You can take the move.org grap and move to Iran

[Tyrone Power]

Hence the reason Americans shouldn't vote down party lines, but by issue instead.

Yes. The 2 party system of politics is a failure.

[Butterbean]

No. That's your definition of "Christian". However millions of christians would disagree.

Millions of Christians would say that simply "accepting jesus" isn't enough to be a Christian.
There are literally thousands of denominations out there and they all disagree on who is or isn't a Christian. Many say you must do specific things and not do specific things to be considered a true christian. They all generally differ. Many consider George Bush jr. a definite Christian. Many consider him not to be a Christian.

I realize that some people's resources from which they draw the meaning of the word "Christian" may be different than mine.

I'm going by the definition put forth by the Holy Christian Bible.

[Colossus_500]

and familiar   

lol   

[Colossus_500]

I'm going by the definition put forth by the Holy Christian Bible.

Correct again, STella.  This is the ONLY definition.  Tyrone, Johnny, whoever he is has the "worldly" definition of what a Christian is.

[OzmO]

Welcome back Johnny 

[Oldschool Flip]

Hey Tyrohhny, how about the ACLU supporting Illegal immigrants and Affirmative Action?

[Tyrone Power]

I realize that some people's resources from which they draw the meaning of the word "Christian" may be different than mine.

I'm going by the definition put forth by the Holy Christian Bible.

• It's not like the bible says "A christian is someone who....". As a matter of a fact the word "Christian" is only mentioned twice in the bible and it doesn't define it. The new testament uses the word "Christianos" which is what the Gentiles used to refer to the literall followers of Jesus. I.E. his disciples and others.Beyond that it's all interpretation.
• Holy Christian Bible? What's that?

[Butterbean]

• It's not like the bible says "A christian is someone who....". As a matter of a fact the word "Christian" is only mentioned twice in the bible and it doesn't define it. The new testament uses the word "Christianos" which is what the Gentiles used to refer to the literall followers of Jesus. I.E. his disciples and others.Beyond that it's all interpretation.
• Holy Christian Bible? What's that?

When you googled for how many times the word "Christian" is in the bible (twice), you should have also googled "Christians" (once).

The definition is found in Acts 11:26.....which will then lead you to an in depth study of the word "disciples."   Or maybe instead of doing a study you could just google. 

[Tyrone Power]

When you googled for how many times the word "Christian" is in the bible (twice), you should have also googled "Christians" (once).

The definition is found in Acts 11:26.....which will then lead you to an in depth study of the word "disciples."   Or maybe instead of doing a study you could just google. 

Acts 11:6 defines Christian?

Act 11:26  And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

 

[Jay5683]

Tyrone Power you look like you have a GED and your trying to explain the world like your Michael Savage.

Also lose the butt cutt!