Lee Priest - Robin Chang has cancelled his stuff

[RHINO290]

Simply put, AMI made a mistake.  They were not clear with Lee about what he should do about the ticket.  They did not stay on top of their finances by keeping track of the credit.  This should have been resolved quietly months ago.

240 & Original Sin are right, AMI needs to write this off and be done with it.  It is not worth the bad PR, even though personally it sounds to me like Lee should reimburse them for the ticket(s).  In the grand scheme of things, it's not worth it.  It's their fault for not being clear.  Mistakes like these are exactly why companies write off a certain percentage of their revenue every year to bad debt.

Well, if this was just about the ticket and hotel, they would write it off. Truth is, they are pissed becasue Lee is the ONLY ifbb pro with balls to compete in the PDI, everyone else is just plain scared. Shit, I know a certain pro who wnats to train with me, but won't train at his normal gym, because he does not want weinberger to see us together....That is just ridiculous.

Oh, and Original sin is right, chick is about bashing pdi, because thats what they want hi to do, thats why he bashes me....We are a threat, I know chick you are gonna say"we don't matter, we have not even had a show" and yet, you talk more about us than your own Olympia....TOo obvious, sorry.

good call original sin, you see more than I thought.

[dorkeroo]

Yeah...whats your point?

You really come off unprofessionally when you respond like that in my opinion. Anyways, my point is that if you are indeed the athlete's rep, call Lee and settle this another way instead of trying to make yourself feel better on what you refer to as (maybe not these exact words) a meaningless message board (one the IFBB athlete's rep has spent almost a month on I might add).

You don't seem like you are representing Lee and even if he competes in the PDI, he will still be a suspened IFBB athlete, or more simply, an athlete in your care.

By the way, as bad as this sounds, thanks for responding to my post as although I do disagree with your approach here, it is a small thrill for me to have a question answered by an IFBB pro. I do respect some of what you guys do, and see the huge physiques like juiced up race cars. Anyways, best of luck to you and I won't ask about this again if I can help it.

[Tre]

US $50.00 per day for food and miscellaneous expenses...

That's too low.  

My sponsored athletes get $100/day per diem and I'm willing to bet that AMI made a *lot* more money than me last year.  

[RHINO290]

You must be a woman, a dumb one at that

Oh she is a woman, but certainly not dumb, I can attest to that.

[Original Sin]

Oh she is a woman, but certainly not dumb, I can attest to that.

Now that is a loaded statement 

Thank you dear 

[Tre]

240 & Original Sin are right, AMI needs to write this off and be done with it.  It is not worth the bad PR...

They don't care about bad PR, because they know bodybuilding fans are suckers who, by and large, will not put our money where our mouths are.  If I live in the U.S. and want to see the best bodybuilders in the world, the IFBB is the only option I have.  So, no matter how much I might gripe about IFBB-this and IFBB-that, at the end of the day, I'm still going to pay to attend 4-5 shows a year.

[Disgusted]

Well, if this was just about the ticket and hotel, they would write it off. Truth is, they are pissed becasue Lee is the ONLY ifbb pro with balls to compete in the PDI, everyone else is just plain scared. Shit, I know a certain pro who wnats to train with me, but won't train at his normal gym, because he does not want weinberger to see us together....That is just ridiculous.

Oh, and Original sin is right, chick is about bashing pdi, because thats what they want hi to do, thats why he bashes me....We are a threat, I know chick you are gonna say"we don't matter, we have not even had a show" and yet, you talk more about us than your own Olympia....TOo obvious, sorry.

good call original sin, you see more than I thought.

Bingo

[Tre]

Bingo

Almost, but not quite.

I disagree with the notion that PDI - which has not yet held a single event - is already a 'threat' to the IFBB. 

That's almost like saying that the Red Sox are a threat to the Yankees.

[Linnykins]

They don't care about bad PR, because they know bodybuilding fans are suckers who, by and large, will not put our money where our mouths are.  If I live in the U.S. and want to see the best bodybuilders in the world, the IFBB is the only option I have.  So, no matter how much I might gripe about IFBB-this and IFBB-that, at the end of the day, I'm still going to pay to attend 4-5 shows a year.

I'm not going to the Olympia this year, in part because I was not at all impressed by the production last year.  But unfortunately, you are right.  There seems to be a monopoly on bodybuilding at the moment, which is why I'm hoping the PDI will succeed.

[Chick]

For the last time....THIS IS NOT AN PDI ISSUE.

No one made it a PDI issue, except for PDI supporters.

I talked to Robin Chang about this matter 4 days ago. I have all the facts right.

There is no disputing that a ticket was issued for Lee to compete in the Olympia.

There is no disputing that Lee did NOT compete in the Olympia.

There is no disputing the fact that Lee did use the ticket for his own personal use.

As Robin paid for the ticket, he has every right to expect a refund from Lee.

Jim Manion merely requested a letter of apology be written for BREAKING the contract...he has nothing to do with expenses/ promotion of the Olympia.

None of this came to light until Robin tried to use the flight credit THIS year, which he found out, was already used.

[Chick]

Well, if this was just about the ticket and hotel, they would write it off. Truth is, they are pissed becasue Lee is the ONLY ifbb pro with balls to compete in the PDI, everyone else is just plain scared. Shit, I know a certain pro who wnats to train with me, but won't train at his normal gym, because he does not want weinberger to see us together....That is just ridiculous.

Oh, and Original sin is right, chick is about bashing pdi, because thats what they want hi to do, thats why he bashes me....We are a threat, I know chick you are gonna say"we don't matter, we have not even had a show" and yet, you talk more about us than your own Olympia....TOo obvious, sorry.

good call original sin, you see more than I thought.

Jack-

Your post makes no sense whatsoever..

Why would the IFBB be pissed? If he competes in the PDI, he'll be suspended anyway...

You can't be a threat when the NOC has a less than 50% chance of even taking place....you also can't be considered a threat with the line-up they are currently advertising...

It's a nice little BB federation that caters to guys who couldn't cut it in the NPC (much like yourself,Jack..)  and others who are in the position of not being in the top 3/4 of the best. It is what it is...comparing it to the IFBB is a joke.

Lee has done nothing to date..only expressed an interest to compete in a non-sanctioned show. If and when he steps on that stage, only then will action be taken....thinking this is in some way a defience from Robin Chang, is laughable...

[Hedgehog]

For the last time....THIS IS NOT AN PDI ISSUE.

No one made it a PDI issue, except for PDI supporters.

I talked to Robin Chang about this matter 4 days ago. I have all the facts right.

There is no disputing that a ticket was issued for Lee to compete in the Olympia.

There is no disputing that Lee did NOT compete in the Olympia.

There is no disputing the fact that Lee did use the ticket for his own personal use.

As Robin paid for the ticket, he has every right to expect a refund from Lee.

Jim Manion merely requested a letter of apology be written for BREAKING the contract...he has nothing to do with expenses/ promotion of the Olympia.

None of this came to light until Robin tried to use the flight credit THIS year, which he found out, was already used.

I don't follow...

Why would an Athlete's Rep get involved in this sort of matter?

You're not a booking agent or something, or are you?


Why not let it go? Seems like a good idea if you ask me. Though my opinion means jack shit IMO.

YIP
Zack

[Original Sin]

Now for something completely different....

Dear Bob,
What ever came out of your representation to the IFBB for Dennis James (and others) lack of prize money.  Were you ever able to get the billion dollar corporation to at least cover the monies owed to the IFBB Athletes?  I am sure in the time that you sat down with them in the meeting the intrest alone from the capital of the corporation more then covered the costs.

[RHINO290]

Jack-

Your post makes no sense whatsoever..

Why would the IFBB be pissed? If he competes in the PDI, he'll be suspended anyway...

You can't be a threat when the NOC has a less than 50% chance of even taking place....you also can't be considered a threat with the line-up they are currently advertising...

It's a nice little BB federation that caters to guys who couldn't cut it in the NPC (much like yourself,Jack..)  and others who are in the position of not being in the top 3/4 of the best. It is what it is...comparing it to the IFBB is a joke.

Lee has done nothing to date..only expressed an interest to compete in a non-sanctioned show. If and when he steps on that stage, only then will action be taken....thinking this is in some way a defience from Robin Chang, is laughable...

as usuall, can't accept a different opinion, and you must take shots at me. Thats okay bro.

By the way, still waiting for you to admit you were wrong..... you are so predictable

[Chick]

Now for something completely different....

Dear Bob,
What ever came out of your representation to the IFBB for Dennis James (and others) lack of prize money.  Were you ever able to get the billion dollar corporation to at least cover the monies owed to the IFBB Athletes?  I am sure in the time that you sat down with them in the meeting the intrest alone from the capital of the corporation more then covered the costs.

No, I presented it..it was rejected and the responsibility put on the promoters shoulders.

I then preceded to make a proposal to the IFBB to cover all purses, as they are the sanctioning body...it was subsequently passed.

All shows are guaranteed now.

[Original Sin]

No, I presented it..it was rejected and the responsibility put on the promoters shoulders.

I then preceded to make a proposal to the IFBB to cover all purses, as they are the sanctioning body...it was subsequently passed.

All shows are guaranteed now.

Thank you for answering.  And thanks for trying, I was lookng around and hadn't heard anything.

I know I have said it before, great job on the changes you have made and hopefully your proposals this year will be just as grand.

later

[Shawn Ray]

Shawn just shows how little you know   

Ah Lee, so you wanna spill the beans or address your legions of Fans with what I dont know?
What exactly do you mean, did I miss something here?

Why dont you explain for us Superman

[pushinweight]

For the last time....THIS IS NOT AN PDI ISSUE.

No one made it a PDI issue, except for PDI supporters.

I talked to Robin Chang about this matter 4 days ago. I have all the facts right.

There is no disputing that a ticket was issued for Lee to compete in the Olympia.

There is no disputing that Lee did NOT compete in the Olympia.

There is no disputing the fact that Lee did use the ticket for his own personal use.

As Robin paid for the ticket, he has every right to expect a refund from Lee.

Jim Manion merely requested a letter of apology be written for BREAKING the contract...he has nothing to do with expenses/ promotion of the Olympia.

None of this came to light until Robin tried to use the flight credit THIS year, which he found out, was already used.

Oh yes it is a PDI issue.  That is exactly why they have made it public like this.

[saucetradomous]

I figured this would be a good time to post the link to Lee's 2005 olympia contract which hadn't really changed from the years preceeding it-- but I don't know how different this years contract is

[Saxon]

That's too low. 

My sponsored athletes get $100/day per diem and I'm willing to bet that AMI made a *lot* more money than me last year. 

The judges get $75 per day.   

[RHINO290]

Mr. Rhino who are you again? Why havent I heard of you?

I wish I was famous like you. You have acomplished so much, that I should bow to you, right?(LOL)

[240 is Back]

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[Shawn Ray]

Lee & a friend used last year's plane tix for a trip not related to the Mr. O.

Lee, the right thing to do was simply send the IFBB their money back when you decided to use them for personal use but then again that would have gone against who you are.

Out.

[Lee_a_priest]

1. Did they issue you flight tickets for last years show?
2. Did you use them for a different flight?
3. Did they agree that you could change the tickets?

If 1 and 2 are true but 3 is false then you owe them the tickets and it is not unreasonable for them to expect you to pay for your tickets this year.

It is when i asked - do i have to pay it back and was told no - just write a letter. Now 12 months later after buying my new ticket and signing the contract stating that they cancell it. MMMMMMMMMMM

[Lee_a_priest]

Actually, now that you mention it, I remember hearing that story somewhere.  Don't you think that he had reasons for saying that to Twinlab though?  You pulling out of the show at the last minute was a big blow to the Olympia last year as you were one of the favorite athlete.  Many people came all the way from Australia with their family just to see you compete, I remember reading their posts on the boards and their were so dissapointed/pissed off that you did not.  You did not seem to care back then, you just said, I had to do what I had to do.
You are right with the fact that the new venue had a few technical problems last year but you have to remember that after spending so many years at the Mandalay, they had things down, this was the 1st year at a new Casino, I'm sure this year, a lot of the bugs will be worked out and the show will run lot smoother, don't you agree?
Lastly, why were you so personal in your attack at Robin in the mags?  Did he do something to you on a personal level?  What you said wasn't cool, you have to know that.

That's right he did.But thats between us.So until you know the whole story Dave no need to comment.