Once you start messing with drugs, it is over... Look at Arnold, not even his incredible iron willpower saved him when he quit bodybuilding, he looks like a sack of potatoes. There is nothing he can do about it. He still works out 2 times a day, and it doesn't do anything for his physique any more. The drugs took what ever natural healthy physique, abilities and strength he had. It is the same for everyone. It is very hard to get in shape again once going natural after relying on drugs for dieting or building muscles. It REALLY does ruin you. I hope kids these days realize it. I wouldn't even mess with OTC drugs like bronkaid that GH15 so happily recommend. You just won't be the same anymore afterwords.