did ya know that the 2 israeli soldiers captured by hezbullah were

[240 is Back]

ISR and HEZ are both playing dirty here.

You argue who is more wrong, but it's like arguing who's more pregnant.

You're both whores

[OzmO]

Remember, the difference is that the ME is a rat hole other than Israel, where they actually conduct modern commerce and believe in science and technology.  You can't say that for the rest of those oil barron led countries whose people can't even read a newspaper.

So you really believe that they (middle Eastern countries) want to not have any mordern progress?  That because of their religous beliefs they want to ride on Camels the rest of their lives?  Then why do they have Cars, Universities, modern appliances etc.. there now?  Don't confuse what's going there with the Taliban.  If you look at the success of Israel's economy you'll see it's related to major US financial AId over the past 40 years.  To connect the oil baron/arabic royalty with their people is stupid.  It's no different than the Rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer in countries that don't have a strong middle class like the USA.

Granted, the Arabs are bunch of in fighting hateful bastards, but put it all in it's proper perspective with out the Pro-Israeli brainwashing.

[24KT]

With Iran anyway, back in the 60's we took out the old religious leaders and put in the Shar.  He was way to aristocratical for the average Iranian and to this day they still haven't forgiven us from inserting the Shar.  We are known as a force that wants to colonize the world in the eyes of the Iranians.  It snowballs from their with our protection and arming of Israel, now the US is the head of the great Satin   That's how I read into it.

Actually Buff, it was 1953, and Mossadegh was an extremely popular, & democratically elected secularist. His mistake was wanting to ensure that the lion's share of Iranian wealth, went to the Iranian people and not to British oil firms.

The disdain for the Shah was not found in his 'aristocracy', but rather in his brutality, greed & corruption. He was a vile & brutal dictator who made good use of his CIA trained & developed Savak secret police.  It was that overwhelming rejection of western corruption & oppression, that threw so many into the arms of the Islamic fundamentalists.

The rise of Islamic fundamentalism throughout the world is a direct consequence of US interventionism, ...both then, and NOW.

[Camel Jockey]

Righty we'll see

Does China have the resources of the US? IE Oil, natural gas, coal? All they'll do is make the parts for my ipod. hahaha

[OzmO]

Does China have the resources of the US? IE Oil, natural gas, coal? All they'll do is make the parts for my ipod. hahaha

it's estamated in 20 years there economy at the rate it's growing now will rival the USA's.  At that point or even before that you can bet Tiawan will be the flash point of a conflict between them and us.