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PDI Night of Champions: Prejudging discussion
« on: September 16, 2006, 02:08:22 PM »
Here's your top 4 after just witnessing the prejudging...

Lee Priest, Andreas Frey, Voltan something, Sami Al Hadad. Probably in that order too.

Priest definitely the winner. He's on. Remember, Priest is one of the top 6 bodybuilders in the world if we go by Olympia placings. Andreas looks great! Condition--on. Has room to grow and fill out his frame. Voltan looks good too but I have Sami above him. Sami more in the mold of a Dex Jackson/Flex Wheeler.

The IFBB's Valentino Jabes also looks great. Rhino proved he's not out of place on a pro stage.

Kind of strange/disturbing/wierd thing... a top IFBB official and show promotor was standing outside the theatre before and during the prejudging.


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Re: PDI NOC prejudging
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2006, 02:10:52 PM »
Kind of strange/disturbing/wierd thing... a top IFBB official and show promotor was standing outside the theatre before and during the prejudging.

Hes waiting to sack Lee

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Re: PDI NOC prejudging
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2006, 02:11:08 PM »
what NPC/IFBB faces were in the crowd?

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Re: PDI NOC prejudging
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2006, 02:12:02 PM »
who was that, weinberger? how many people were in attendance?
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2006, 02:15:08 PM »
Want to take bets on whether this thread mentioning the official is removed?

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Re: PDI NOC prejudging
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2006, 02:30:38 PM »
Frey really looked amazing, had the presence of the old time bodybuilders up there, amazing frame and muscle popping out, really tight and healthy looking. Total package, looks like a young Gunter.

Lee will win of course, best arms and legs. Volton guy looked like almost exact twin of Frey but not quiet as pulled together. Sami was slightly smaller than the others but totally put together, great conditioning, likeable presence.  OVerall great show. Rhino looked tight, arms and back were on, but was lacking in legs and probalby the worst glutes I have ever seen on stage, but hey is not a spring chicken. Still has the rhino smile the audience likes.  There were three huge short guys in incredible condition, don't have their names, numbers were 15, 16, and 8...anyone help me here if you were at the show.

Audience was filled with your usually rag tag gym rats, guys off cycle but still wearing xxxl size  t-shirts. and women with leathery skin and deep voices.  Why do people insist on bringin little children to these shows and let them run around and make noise while they yap on their cell phones, totally annoying? They are not the only ones that payed 40 bucks for a seat.   

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Re: PDI NOC prejudging
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2006, 02:33:37 PM »
who was that, weinberger? how many people were in attendance?

Imagine if all you had going for you was the possibility of maybe making money as a pro bodybuilder...then I think people can understand the chilling effect events like the above have on the athletes.

Has IronMan covered the PDI or the NOC? (I honestly don't know because I don't read it as much anymore). If Balik did, would the IFBB still sanction his IronMan Pro Invitational every year?

Before people knock the NOC and compare it to an IFBB show, that ISN'T the correct comparison. The PDI is starting out, so if you want something to compare it to compare it to the IFBB in the 1960s.

That said, Lee Priest in his condition tonight would be top-6 Olympia. Frey would probably make the top 12-15. Sami Al Hadad shows the most potential of all of them.

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Re: PDI NOC prejudging
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2006, 02:36:29 PM »
How many people in the stands?
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2006, 02:42:17 PM »
How many people in the stands?

From where I sat  in the fifth row, it looked like more than half, maybe 3/4s of the lower level was filled up. People were scattered around though, so maybe less? Night show should have more. Always does, even in the IFBB.

Sean Allen was onstage. Sean is a big guy. Looks especially good from the waist up. Like a Paul Dillett.

But every time they had a call out and Sean wasn't in it, he didn't look to happy. And a few times when they did call him out, he looked like he couldn't believe they were calling him out against the guys they were calling him out with. Hopefully I'm reading his reactions wrong, because they were kind of obnoxious and not professional, even for a guy who wants to win.

George Mairoano was one of the shorter thicker guys someone asked about. A complete beast. If he'd brought the conditioning here that he brought to the USAs he'd be top 6.

One guy was really thick too and freaky looking but had shoulders into which he had spot injected or used synthol and they looked bad, took away from his physique.



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Re: PDI NOC prejudging
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2006, 02:46:11 PM »
Who were the judges?

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2006, 02:48:55 PM »
Who were the judges?

The only 2 I recognized were Toni Dee and Wayne's main man, John whose-last-name-I-can't-for-the-life-of-me spell.

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2006, 02:51:08 PM »
The only 2 I recognized were Toni Dee and Wayne's main man, John whose-last-name-I-can't-for-the-life-of-me spell.

Bongiovi?

yeah, lots of people spell it Bon Jovi.

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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2006, 02:52:29 PM »
From where I sat  in the fifth row, it looked like more than half, maybe 3/4s of the lower level was filled up. People were scattered around though, so maybe less?

How many does the lower level hold?  If this is a 1500 seat total auditorium, figure the lower level at 900 or so?  3/4 full, but spaced out, so maybe half? 450 people?  You figure 100 of those or so are comps for sponsors, guests, etc, so that leaves 350 paying attendees?

350 people.

In New York City.


Hell, in NY you can get more than 350 people to attend the grand opening of a lemonaid stand without breaking much of a sweat.  350 people is beyond pathetic!

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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2006, 02:52:51 PM »
Bongiovi?

yeah, lots of people spell it Bon Jovi.

That might be him. I recognize him as a guy who used to compete, think back in the 70s maybe? Glasses, probably in his fifties now. Have met him. Nice enough guy.

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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2006, 02:53:59 PM »
How many does the lower level hold?  If this is a 1500 seat total auditorium, figure the lower level at 900 or so?  3/4 full, but spaced ut, so maybe half? 450 people?  You figure 100 of those or so are comps for sponsors, guests, etc, so that leaves 350 paying attendees?

350 people.

In New York City.


Hell, in NY you can get more than 350 people to attend the grand opening of a lemonaid stand without breaking much of a sweat.  350 people is beyond pathetic!

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Really then how do explain the Weinbergers show.

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Re: PDI NOC prejudging
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2006, 02:55:36 PM »
Sean always acts like a big baby...


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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2006, 02:57:49 PM »
Really then how do explain the Weinbergers show.

I don't know anything about Weinberger's show.


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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2006, 02:58:01 PM »
How many does the lower level hold?  If this is a 1500 seat total auditorium, figure the lower level at 900 or so?  3/4 full, but spaced ut, so maybe half? 450 people?  You figure 100 of those or so are comps for sponsors, guests, etc, so that leaves 350 paying attendees?

350 people.

In New York City.

Hell, in NY you can get more than 350 people to attend the grand opening of a lemonaid stand without breaking much of a sweat.  350 people is beyond pathetic!

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Hi Goatboy. I want to be really clear before I reply to you that I am not "anti-IFBB." I am pro-bodybuilding, which means I will support the IFBB, the PDI, NABBA, and any other organization that allows our brothers and sisters to compete and entertains us. But if an organization and its officials are acting irrationaly, I'll point that out.

That said, when Weinberger started the NY Pro show people got in line on-line to bash him. Complaining that the show was held in a high school auditoirum (actually its a college auditorium and not paltry). Complaining that attendance was down. Complaining that from one year to the next the show didn't change, grow, get better, etc.

Know what? I've been going to the NY Pro since its inception and enjoying it EVERY time. And I will go to the NOC again and I'm sure I'll enjoy that too.

These shenanagans between the IFBB and PDI only hurt the athletes and the fans. And the fans, go to any show--PDI or IFBB-and where are all the young 18-23 year old guys in groups or with their girlfriends that used to go when I started going to the pro shows back in 1990? It seems like the mean age of a fan in the seats at ANY show is 40-something these days. We gotta grow the sport, and that means working TOGETHER.

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2006, 03:00:44 PM »
I don't know anything about Weinberger's show.


You really should change your sig from "don't f**k with bears" to "don't fuck with spiders"...  much more accurate!

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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2006, 03:02:08 PM »

But every time they had a call out and Sean wasn't in it, he didn't look to happy. And a few times when they did call him out, he looked like he couldn't believe they were calling him out against the guys they were calling him out with. Hopefully I'm reading his reactions wrong, because they were kind of obnoxious and not professional, even for a guy who wants to win.

George Mairoano was one of the shorter thicker guys someone asked about. A complete beast. If he'd brought the conditioning here that he brought to the USAs he'd be top 6.

One guy was really thick too and freaky looking but had shoulders into which he had spot injected or used synthol and they looked bad, took away from his physique.




yea, Shawn Allen acted like a fool, he wouldn't stand in his place and kept walking back stage while other competitors were up on the dias. He kept trying to engage Lee in a conversation but Lee looked annoyed and kept his focus on respecting the competitors. Lee was a real class act, very much a professional.  WHen Shawn came out for round 2, who ever oiled him up did a terrible job and his legs were shaking while holding poses. Thought he was gonna fall over. He seemed pissed he wasn't getting the call outs he thought he deserved. Can't stand cometitors like that.


Id say Frey has most potential, guy is only 26.  Shoulders the size of a house and wheels to match. George Mairoano dude was packed with muscle, amazing wheels and really small waist, shaped like LEE.

Sami and Rhino need more confidence, but it was just the judging, hopefully they will bring it on tonight.


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Re: PDI NOC prejudging
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2006, 03:02:24 PM »
Hi Goatboy. I want to be really clear before I reply to you that I am not "anti-IFBB." I am pro-bodybuilding, which means I will support the IFBB, the PDI, NABBA, and any other organization that allows our brothers and sisters to compete and entertains us. But if an organization and its officials are acting irrationaly, I'll point that out.

That said, when Weinberger started the NY Pro show people got in line on-line to bash him. Complaining that the show was held in a high school auditoirum (actually its a college auditorium and not paltry). Complaining that attendance was down. Complaining that from one year to the next the show didn't change, grow, get better, etc.

Know what? I've been going to the NY Pro since its inception and enjoying it EVERY time. And I will go to the NOC again and I'm sure I'll enjoy that too.

These shenanagans between the IFBB and PDI only hurt the athletes and the fans. And the fans, go to any show--PDI or IFBB-and where are all the young 18-23 year old guys in groups or with their girlfriends that used to go when I started going to the pro shows back in 1990? It seems like the mean age of a fan in the seats at ANY show is 40-something these days. We gotta grow the sport, and that means working TOGETHER.

I'm not pro- or anti- any organization either, I just call things like I see them...  and the way I see it, 350 people is pathetic for any sporting event, except maybe a little-league game.
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2006, 03:03:19 PM »
Actually bears and spiders would be better.  I might do that.

how about cats?

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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2006, 03:03:52 PM »
How many does the lower level hold?  If this is a 1500 seat total auditorium, figure the lower level at 900 or so?  3/4 full, but spaced out, so maybe half? 450 people?  You figure 100 of those or so are comps for sponsors, guests, etc, so that leaves 350 paying attendees?

350 people.

In New York City.


Hell, in NY you can get more than 350 people to attend the grand opening of a lemonaid stand without breaking much of a sweat.  350 people is beyond pathetic!

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2006, 03:06:28 PM »
I'm not pro- or anti- any organization either, I just call things like I see them...  and the way I see it, 350 people is pathetic for any sporting event, except maybe a little-league game.

Goatboy, sorry if I sounded like I meant you were pro-or-anti. Not what I meant. There are people reading this who will gloat if I wrote that the prejudging had thirteen people in attendance, and they'd probably be the same people who gloat every time someone bashes the NY Pro Show. That was my point.

And you're right...350 people is kind of sad, but again, attendance is down at all shows, the fans are getting older, and the in-fighting between the organizations can't be helping the situation.

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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2006, 03:07:23 PM »
GH or anyone how did the t-shirts look andget some pics of them on people