Did you just say that OBL died in 2001??? Dammit dude, you've lost it !
yes. osama is dead. And I have not 'lost it', I have researched it and followed world events for the last five years. here goes-
winter 01 - OBL left Tora bora ala the northern road. He took a 1000-car convoy, and we allowed them to leave. We had the path guarded on 3 sides but not on the 4th, and they simply left. They got on planes and left. This is all public record - a lot of people went on hardball and OReilly that month to criticize bin laden. It was all over the news in Dec 01. When you hear 'we let him escape", it wasn't poor battlefield skills - it was leaving on road unbombed and unguarded.
Anyway, most of his crew went to the border with pakistan, where they are protected by the ISI, the paki version of teh CIA. This explains why we've only picked up 4 or 5 Al Q guys who mattered in the last 5 years. They're assets.
bin laden was in late stage kidney failure in 2001. He flew to egypt and died of natural causes. he was buried, they had a service, and it was reported in arab papers.
ok, end fact - now, what I *believe* happened next:
No bin laden and the war woudl have to end. And, forget about Iraq. So we propagated the rumor he was still alive. The one fatfaced tape was the confession, the next on election eve 2004 to win the election for Bush. They were fake. I don't think even you, Mr I, can look at these 2 men and say they're the same guy. (and, remember how bad he looked in that last tape of his? Very bad shape, crippled left side). The 2 OBL videotapes were fake, as were the audiotapes that have come out since.
As long as OBL is "out there" we can have wars. period. You can accuse me of being unpatriotic for accusing our govt of lying to us about it, but earlier even you admitted that it's sometimes okay for govts to lie, as long as they're doing it in the best interest of the people. You believe they'll use smaller lies, I believe they'll lie a little bigger.
here's to peace I pray is coming!