Strength Without Results

[Hendrix]

When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine, but what blows my mind is this guy no taller than 5,6 150 at most outlifts me in every exerecise and machine lift.
Is it Tendon strenght or some physiolgy attribute,I,m blown away by his strength and endurance, i asked him if he was on the juice and he just laughed "no"
I am perplexed.

[The True Adonis]

When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine, but what blows my mind is this guy no taller than 5,6 150 at most outlifts me in every exerecise and machine lift.
Is it Tendon strenght or some physiolgy attribute,I,m blown away by his strength and endurance, i asked him if he was on the juice and he just laughed "no"
I am perplexed.

Its called fat does nothing for you.

I am as strong as I ever was 70 lbs lighter.
Remember I was deadlifting 600 at one point. 

[The True Adonis]

Do you still bench 375 at a BW below 170?

Relatively speaking I do more

[The True Adonis]

Do a simple proportion of your best lifts versus your target weight.

If you are lifting more proportiately than you are stronger.

[haider]

Relatively speaking I do more

what the hell is that supposed to mean? You either lift more or less relative to the weights you once used to lift.

[Hendrix]

Its called fat does nothing for you.

I am as strong as I ever was 70 lbs lighter.
Remember I was deadlifting 600 at one point. 

Actually my optium weight is 225 at 10% or below but in strenght wise that extra size is not all fat but added muscle, when i train natural i bulk to the point of setting a good foudation of strength for when i turn to the darkside.
Can you deadlift 600 at your current bodyweight
It pisses me off this little gym rat does 4 plates per side for reps benchpress.i Have asked him if he was juicing he just laughed and said no.
I am fucking perplexed,There must be some physiological explanation?Tendon strength.
This gym rat keeps me up at night with his lifts that i can only exceed with the darkside of the force.

[The True Adonis]

Actually my optium weight is 225 at 10% or below but in strenght wise that extra size is not all fat but added muscle, when i train natural i bulk to the point of setting a good foudation of strength for when i turn to the darkside.
Can you deadlift 600 at your current bodyweight
It pisses me off this little gym rat does 4 plates per side for reps benchpress.i Have asked him if he was juicing he just laughed and said no.
I am fucking perplexed,There must be some physiological explanation?Tendon strength.
This gym rat keeps me up at night with his lifts that i can only exceed with the darkside of the force.

Mechanical Advantage and placement of joints and Joint thickness have tons to do with it.

This dictates how gravity and inertia act upon a lever.

[natural al]

When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine, but what blows my mind is this guy no taller than 5,6 150 at most outlifts me in every exerecise and machine lift.
Is it Tendon strenght or some physiolgy attribute,I,m blown away by his strength and endurance, i asked him if he was on the juice and he just laughed "no"
I am perplexed.

you need to give more information as to what you are doing.  How long have you been doing the 80's?  What's your routine like?  etc. 

I bet it's mostly mental, perhaps something you could be doing pre workout.....

[Bast000]

When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine

it's because you're weak.   80lbs dumbbells for shoulders at 280lbs   

[Hendrix]

it's because you're weak.   80lbs dumbbells for shoulders at 280lbs   

I concetrate on contraction and reps i could do 120s as i have in the past but only feel distinct pain in my joints the next morning,the darkside of the force i have military pressesd 3 and half plates and the healing propertys of the juice are incredible.

[natural al]

According to your physics statement, one should then be able to optimize the body usage for each movement in order to maximize the force exerted on the weight.
So, answer this, how do one calculate and find the optimal way of performing a certain exercise? (if we account to the fact that it's not easy to find the most suitable liftingposition by a one time experimentation, since other more counterproductive ways of performing an exercise over time will still perform better than using the optimal body usage for the first time).

You seem to know a lot about physics, do you got any interesting theories regarding this subject? Is there some general guidelines to follow?

I'm not a physics major but with the little bit of experience that I do have the mehanical lever that TA was talking about is valid in one way but certainly not valid in regards to a BB movement.  When you deal with a mechanical arm a lot of variables are removed that are present in the human body.  Plain and simple a mechanical lever is not going to get tired like a human arm etc..............I don't know, maybe I'm completly off track here but it doesn't seem like the same priciples apply.

[haider]

Bump for lack of response

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[The True Adonis]

According to your physics statement, one should then be able to optimize the body usage for each movement in order to maximize the force exerted on the weight.
So, answer this, how do one calculate and find the optimal way of performing a certain exercise? (if we account to the fact that it's not easy to find the most suitable liftingposition by a one time experimentation, since other more counterproductive ways of performing an exercise over time will still perform better than using the optimal body usage for the first time).

You seem to know a lot about physics, do you got any interesting theories regarding this subject? Is there some general guidelines to follow?

Well Mr. DF, this all depends on what your goal is.
Are you trying to move a maximal load in the most efficent manner?  Are you trying to move this load the least distance traveled?  ARe you trying to move this load the least distance traveled with the least force?  Are you trying to use this for bodybuilding.

Natural Al is right in this aspect.  Lifting a weight for efficency of work, has fuck all to do with bodybuilding.

[SteelePegasus]

Actually my optium weight is 225 at 10% or below but in strenght wise that extra size is not all fat but added muscle, when i train natural i bulk to the point of setting a good foudation of strength for when i turn to the darkside.
Can you deadlift 600 at your current bodyweight
It pisses me off this little gym rat does 4 plates per side for reps benchpress.i Have asked him if he was juicing he just laughed and said no.
I am fucking perplexed,There must be some physiological explanation?Tendon strength.
This gym rat keeps me up at night with his lifts that i can only exceed with the darkside of the force.

wait a minute, something is not right here
you said that he was 5'6 and 150lbs correct?
also he is doing 4 plates for reps?


doesn't seem right naturally

[Woten]

wait a minute, something is not right here
you said that he was 5'6 and 150lbs correct?
also he is doing 4 plates for reps?


doesn't seem right naturally

why not? that would mean the guy is ONLY benching three times bodyweight for reps, I mean, honestly, I am sure he really can, I mean, every gym has somebody that does suchlike?

surely?

[The True Adonis]

why not? that would mean the guy is ONLY benching three times bodyweight for reps, I mean, honestly, I am sure he really can, I mean, every gym has somebody that does suchlike?

surely?

Agreed.  This is the same cheeky fellow who converted a tie rack to hang his many weight belts so he wont have trouble color coordinating them with his wonderous assortment of Zubazz and Otomix get-ups.

[SteelePegasus]

why not? that would mean the guy is ONLY benching three times bodyweight for reps, I mean, honestly, I am sure he really can, I mean, every gym has somebody that does suchlike?

surely?

ofcourse, you are right...he is the chosen one

he also leaps buildings in a single hop for cardio

[brianX]

Lots of "small" guys are strong as hell. The guy in this photo can bench 525 without equipment.

[mental_masturbator]

When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine, but what blows my mind is this guy no taller than 5,6 150 at most outlifts me in every exerecise and machine lift.
Is it Tendon strenght or some physiolgy attribute,I,m blown away by his strength and endurance, i asked him if he was on the juice and he just laughed "no"
I am perplexed.

Is he a Neandertal?  Perhaps one of those cave men from the Geico commercials...

[Woten]

Lots of "small" guys are strong as hell. The guy in this photo can bench 525 without equipment.

dude, you do realise we are talking about an obviously bullshit laden crock of shite a three times BW claim here?

[brianX]

dude, you do realise we are talking about an obviously bullshit laden crock of shite a three times BW claim here?

 
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/2880

[Woten]

 
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/2880

You spastic, we are talking about Hendrix's claims in his OP, you numbfuck

Of course three times BW lifts happen, they are something special that you dont see every day, hence my above posts

Jesus, no wonder nigh on every fucker here Sarcasm hates you

You fucking clown toolbag

[SteelePegasus]

dude, you do realise we are talking about an obviously bullshit laden crock of shite a three times BW claim here?

sometimes these guy don't get the humor in playing along

[brianX]

You spastic, we are talking about Hendrix's claims in his OP, you numbfuck

Of course three times BW lifts happen, they are something special that you dont see every day, hence my above posts

Jesus, no wonder nigh on every fucker here Sarcasm hates you

You fucking clown toolbag

405 isn't three times bodyweight for a 150 lb guy, you dipshit. That would be 450 lb. Try to learn basic arithmetic before questioning my intelligence, DIPSHIT.

It's not like Hendrix weighed the guy either. He's probably underestimating how heavy this guy is.

Go watch some more tranny porn, you sick little faggot.

[Woten]

405 isn't three times bodyweight for a 150 lb guy, you dipshit. That would be 450 lb. Try to learn basic arithmetic before questioning my intelligence, DIPSHIT.

It's not like Hendrix weighed the guy either. He's probably underestimating how heavy this guy is.

Go watch some more tranny porn, you sick little faggot.

meltdown

Brian, you strike me as the type of guy that has had a severe 'brain based' reaction to shitstained rubber cocks

You truly are an incredibly putrid little article