If you look closely at both comparisons, Ronnie and Jay were sharper, better conditioned in 05 then this year. Their waists are getting out of hand. There was a photo posted somewhere here of Jay few years back and his abs were ripped and showing total 8-pack. Look at him now. His mid section is really weird looking. The "refrigerator" comparison is a good one, lol...wide and no symmetry overall. I personally don't see any improvements from last year. Neither of them holds up to their "you'll see what I am bringing on stage tomorrow" statements. Nothing that really impressive and striking about their physiques...where Vic is another story coming in at his best so far in my opinion