Okay, Jay wins on calves, but Mel wins on back...he has no wrinkly loose skin..he has a complete back. Mel is more than impressive...I say a man who graduate from a Bible College, in great shape, would be exactly what the IFBB needs to take the mainstream, because nobody in the mainstream expects that.
OVERALL thickness in the back , hams and calfs have Jay ahead by a mile. Melvin has the edge on overall , nice shape and asthetics, but Jay still is better overall, when you look at all apscts of a physique.
As for the "bible school grad " plus. Ok, if he was trying for the republican nomination for congress and wanted the Bush bunch to support him , well yeah, , but for bodybuilding, NO.