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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2006, 08:00:39 PM » |
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Good delts, Matt. Post your shoulder workout.
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« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2006, 08:58:52 PM » |
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. I think it's safe to say I am probably holding more lean muscle than Kevin Levrone is right now even looking as I do.
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« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2006, 04:44:57 AM » |
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Adam is right you would need to drop 40lbs to find ripped lean muscle. You don't carry enough muscle on your frame to cut down any less if you want to be shredded. You are going to lose muscle especially in your first go at dropping the body fat percentage in the 6-7% range and right now you are not carrying any more than 135-140 lbs of lean muscle and that might be generous. Just the nature of physiology. The body will gorge some muscle the first time around.
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« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2006, 11:18:46 AM » |
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uh no
you look good though
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Earl, I'm not saying that as praise for myself, just to show that Kevin has drastically reduced in weight. Also, I don't buy for a second that I would be under 140 if I got shredded. This picture is from 2004 at 180-185. I have been as much as the low 200s in the same condition if not better. I would be utterly shocked if I had to lose 65 pounds from there to get shredded. Realistically I would put myself in the 160s completely ripped. 165 or higher I would say. That is even using TA's estimate of 40 pounds lost, if I started the cutting phase at 205. Anyway, I'll post some clips from my digital camera to start with within a week. I don't think that at that point anyone would honestly think I would be 135 ripped. The back picture is from August of 2005. The second picture here is also a bit older and at a lighter body weight. That is about as lean as I am in the 200s, where you can see the outline of my abs. That's the only copy of that picture I have on this computer. Either way, I'll get more stuff up later.  |
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« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2006, 11:33:24 AM » |
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Yeep!
Looking good. You are right in confirming that you need to lose 40 lbs. No big deal!
You have an interesting muscle shape,shorter than mine...I have very long muscles.
You look great Matt....Now Diet down or else it will just get harder and harder....No reason to carry that bodyfat!
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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2006, 11:34:07 AM » |
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Let me correct that.....It won`t get harder, it will just take longer. That is all.
Now get on it!
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2006, 11:46:42 AM » |
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Not yet Adam. I would want to see if I could get to 205 before doing that. Now I think that is a stretch unless I plan to gain a little fat too. I think around 202 is realistic in the same condition I'm at as long as I do it slowly over the next 1-3 months. Muscle memory is very real. I'll know I'm good to go by the feel and by the strength. If I was just getting fat I would just be able to tell. Both mentally and in the gym. Good delts, Matt. Post your shoulder workout.
I'll do the next best thing and post some clips. I'll have no excuse to not have a clip up of using the 100s for dumbbell presses all the way up and down to upper arms parallel to the floor for a good set. All my workouts consist of are the basics: heavy dumbbell and barbell movements and a few machines thrown in for good measure. haider - thanks for the info on chest. I'll be sure to keep that in mind. I know I have other weak spots, but to me chest is the main thing I have in mind. I'll post some pics from the front in this thread in the weeks to come. |
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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2006, 09:53:23 PM » |
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Adam you need to stop the bullshit with the bodyfat lol
THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL that Matt has to drop 40 pounds of fat
NO WAY IN HELL i say it again
25 pounds max
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2006, 09:58:18 PM » |
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Looking good Matt.
With all due respect to others, I also would disagree with the statement you need to lose 40lbs to be ripped.
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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2006, 10:02:09 PM » |
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Adam is right when he says that people don't realise all the fat they have on their body but it is just plain stupid to call Groink "obese" or saying Matt has 40 pounds of fat to lose
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« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2006, 08:40:10 AM » |
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Adam you need to stop the bullshit with the bodyfat lol
THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL that Matt has to drop 40 pounds of fat
NO WAY IN HELL i say it again
25 pounds max
40LBS or so. Matt will see. I am sure he will tell us when he diets down....IT will be about 40 lbs. |
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« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2006, 09:15:24 AM » |
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Adam you need to stop the bullshit with the bodyfat lol
THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL that Matt has to drop 40 pounds of fat
NO WAY IN HELL i say it again
25 pounds max
Agreed, 25-30 tops. 30 and he'd be a roadmap. However, I think Adam overestimates because of how much muscle he lost while dieting improperly. That would explain the 10-15 lbs he's off by. |
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« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2006, 12:29:25 PM » |
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Agreed, 25-30 tops. 30 and he'd be a roadmap.
However, I think Adam overestimates because of how much muscle he lost while dieting improperly. That would explain the 10-15 lbs he's off by.
Nope. Nothing to do with that. I am going by proportions and the amount of visible fat. |
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« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2006, 12:53:20 PM » |
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What's all this talk of dieting off 40 pounds? You need more mass. I don't understand why you would even consider putting bulking on halt.
Great shoulders though.
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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2006, 02:00:06 PM » |
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What's all this talk of dieting off 40 pounds? You need more mass. I don't understand why you would even consider putting bulking on halt.
Great shoulders though.
No such thing as bulking. What is the purpose of gaining fat? |
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« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2006, 02:46:37 PM » |
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Nope.
Nothing to do with that. I am going by proportions and the amount of visible fat.
Tell me again how many times you've competed? Oh yeah, I forgot...you actually have ZERO experience in the area. |
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« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2006, 02:55:08 PM » |
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No such thing as bulking.
What is the purpose of gaining fat?
you are mentally retarded. hope this helps. |
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« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2006, 08:15:23 PM » |
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you are mentally retarded.
hope this helps.
why ? I agree with him on this point, gaining fat is pointless |
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« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2006, 10:14:47 PM » |
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Adam you need to stop the bullshit with the bodyfat lol
THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL that Matt has to drop 40 pounds of fat
NO WAY IN HELL i say it again
25 pounds max
water weight as well. If he lost 25lbs he'd be ripped but not contest ripped. |
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« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2006, 10:47:39 AM » |
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water weight as well. If he lost 25lbs he'd be ripped but not contest ripped.
If he's dieting correctly, he'll gain muscle at the midpoint. Essentially, for a few weeks he will remain the same weight but get harder and harder. |
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« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2006, 03:06:12 PM » |
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If he's dieting correctly, he'll gain muscle at the midpoint. Essentially, for a few weeks he will remain the same weight but get harder and harder.
sure but you're not gonna gain pounds of muscle in a few weeks. |
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« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2006, 03:54:18 PM » |
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sure but you're not gonna gain pounds of muscle in a few weeks.
Actually, yeah, that's exactly what you'll do. Although you stay the same relative weight, you will get harder and leaner. This is generally followed by a burst in metabolism which requires dietary adjustment to maintain muscle. |
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« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2006, 03:46:10 AM » |
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why ?
I agree with him on this point, gaining fat is pointless
To lift more : ) |
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« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2006, 04:02:38 AM » |
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big ass delts and arms and small waist, good work Matt.
I can't believe my eyes....this must be a joke.  p.s. Matt you look good,like others have saide nice delts. Maybe the delts are a big part of your benching strength,thus hindering pec developement...just a thought. |
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« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2006, 05:57:14 PM » |
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Matt, try my bench tips !
I am 150 % sure that it will correct your chest problems
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