Author Topic: Is there a pro in the world who does full reps on anything???????????? (Read 9856 times)

alexxx · « **Reply #25 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:24:32 PM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2007, 04:22:56 PM

It's all just a means to an end in bodybuilding...free weights, DB's, BB's, machines, rocks tied to a broomstick...

IT DOESN'T MATTER!

Depends what that end is. If you want to look soft and fool of water keep using machines. If you want to be a champion, use freeweights.

ether · « **Reply #26 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:25:20 PM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2007, 04:18:47 PM

Bro...I trained for 10 years before the Cybex brand was even invented!

Dude, how old are you???

Do you predate Nautilus Too???

Chick · « **Reply #27 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:27:23 PM »

Quote from: ether on February 08, 2007, 04:25:20 PM

Dude, how old are you???

Do you predate Nautilus Too???

lol....Just turned 41 in December.

Been training since 1979....

ether · « **Reply #28 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:35:37 PM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2007, 04:27:23 PM

lol....Just turned 41 in December.

Been training since 1979....

Based on your training video for the masters, you use very good form.

Better than most, Dorian Yates and Cutler (A cut above) used excellent form as well.

JJ and Branch def. have the worst, Tamali and Atwood are the best at practicing quarter reps.

From what I can recall, on Leg Press your range of motion is pretty restricted, but, on hack squats you went all the way down.

Chick · « **Reply #29 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:42:50 PM »

The only "absolute" in Bodybuilding...it that it works for "you".

People can talk all day long about what you're "supposed to do", what 'should' work best, etc, etc....at the end of the day, what you present on stage is all that matters...and no one is being judged on what routine or machine they used to prepare.

Royalty · « **Reply #30 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:45:16 PM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2007, 04:42:50 PM

The only "absolute" in Bodybuilding...it that it works for "you".

People can talk all day long about what you're "supposed to do", what 'should' work best, etc, etc....at the end of the day, what you present on stage is all that matters...and no one is being judged on what routine or machine they used to prepare.

Ron love once said...."the only rule in bodybuilding is there are no rules"

Chick · « **Reply #31 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:49:01 PM »

I thought that was fight club?

pumpster · « **Reply #32 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:56:31 PM »

What's PBW's position on this?

wikkedonez · « **Reply #33 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:59:13 PM »

.......never speak about fight club..."hope this helps".

HalloweenMan · « **Reply #34 on:** February 08, 2007, 05:06:21 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on February 08, 2007, 04:24:17 PM

Exactly. Centrifugal Machine and Gravity suit would accomplish the same goal as well.

please explain this. what, does it spin your around real fast? if so, how come people who go on alot of amusement park rides aren't big then?

Cap · « **Reply #35 on:** February 08, 2007, 05:08:36 PM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2007, 04:49:01 PM

I thought that was fight club?

But Bob, I thought all great arms were built with BB curls (Larry Scott, who?), Squats (Paul Dillet, who?), etc. My life is shattered. Good posts though. I was indoctrinated into this BS early on.

pumpster · « **Reply #36 on:** February 08, 2007, 05:11:52 PM »

Quote from: HalloweenMan on February 08, 2007, 05:06:21 PM

please explain this. what, does it spin your around real fast? if so, how come people who go on alot of amusement park rides aren't big then?

Fortunately, he's kidding.

Big Lee · « **Reply #37 on:** February 08, 2007, 05:16:04 PM »

Since when does locking a joint or overstretching it under load make you bigger or stronger. The guys that lock out all get injured and retire. Locking out is dangerous and totally unnecessary.

Cap · « **Reply #38 on:** February 08, 2007, 05:17:09 PM »

Quote from: Big Lee on February 08, 2007, 05:16:04 PM

Since when does locking a joint or overstretching it under load make you bigger or stronger. The guys that lock out all get injured and retire. Locking out is dangerous and totally unnecessary.

Depends on what you are doing. Lee Priest seems to be doing just fine with his lifting.

Devon97 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 08, 2007, 06:42:00 PM »

Quote from: SAGE AKA BIGSDAWG on February 08, 2007, 03:58:50 PM

They keep tension on the muscle at all times, while squeezing the contraction, works very well.

sage

Just curious but how would performing a full rep take the tension OFF the muscle?

chris_mason · « **Reply #40 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:14:15 PM »

Squadfather, not every pro can have a physique like you...

Why do you make the comments you do? I have personally seen Johnny Jackson perform a methodical, clean, competition approved deadlift of well over 800 lbs. What he does obvisouly builds strength and size for him. You can bitch about it all you want and have your jealous online tantrums, but the bottom line is that he looks better (if you like HUGE muscles) and is stronger than about 99.9% of the population.

Dingleberry · « **Reply #41 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:24:06 PM »

I guess if you are a bodybuilder it's ok, but I train to become stronger overall- useful power.
I don't want to get a beer bottle busted over my skull by some guy in a bar because he's not within my 4 inch "power" range needed to do any damage. hahahaha

kh300 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:33:44 PM »

the best form of any pro

Mr. Michael Moore · « **Reply #43 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:45:43 PM »

Quote from: jwb on February 08, 2007, 03:41:31 PM

there was one guy once...

start watching at the 1min mark... very clean set at a good pace

The video doesn't work

eastcoastbbman · « **Reply #44 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:56:01 PM »

i still dont get it...what the fuck does FORM have to do with anything?!?!??! this is bodybuilding, not "form" building. if we were judged on how close we come to performing the exercises just like they appear in the textbook, then maybe i would understand all the fuss. the fact is, were not! were judged on the muscles that are produced by the training, textbook or NOT!

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #45 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:58:26 PM »

Quote from: kh300 on February 08, 2007, 07:33:44 PM

the best form of any pro

Shawn has great proportions thats for sure.

shiftedShapes · « **Reply #46 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:59:22 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on February 08, 2007, 04:19:53 PM

I love how people try to argue that a Machine isn`t as good as a free weight.

It makes no sense.

Well machines do have some disadvantages. For instance, there is inevitably some friction on the movement which makes the concentric portion of the lift harder and the eccentric easier. This is undesirable because you can always handle more weight on the eccentric portion thus you will get less benefit from the negatives because you will be limited by the concentric portion which is made more difficult by the friction. A machine that simulated chains AND bands on the other hand.....NOW THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE (this would allow you to be at maximum intensity through the full range of motion). it would also be REVOLUTIONARY, HEROIC, EPIC, and LEGENDARY.

jaejonna · « **Reply #47 on:** February 08, 2007, 08:15:53 PM »

I ll vouch for Bob and Milos..they both do exercises properly....

Dorian was the epitome of form

The True Adonis · « **Reply #48 on:** February 08, 2007, 09:33:48 PM »

Quote from: HalloweenMan on February 08, 2007, 05:06:21 PM

please explain this. what, does it spin your around real fast? if so, how come people who go on alot of amusement park rides aren't big then?

The rides aren`t sustained.

D.L. 5 · « **Reply #49 on:** February 08, 2007, 09:37:44 PM »

i gotta say, on some of the training videos/ battle for the olympia vids... the form of some pro's seems 'sloppy' or thrown around.... and a couple others just don't seem to care its like they dont have to try as hard to have crazy psychiques... while others like ronnie train the house down every time.