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Genetics=everything?
Discuss...
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you already know the answer
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you already know the answer
It's important to remind ourselves of the truth every now and then.
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We are the sum of what precedes us. As is every living thing. Behaviors, thoughts, suboncscious life directions, and physical traits are only the sum of the genes of our parents, who were the sum of the genes of their parents and so on and so on. Every time a child is spawned, natural selection and evolution select physical and psychological, behavioral traits which will lead to the constitution of a new human "mind" and body. His psychism and physique will be a unique mix of his parents genes. We are programmed, and most of what we think and do is automatic and not chosen. What you ve been exposed to in your childhood and adolescence will determine the way you ll see the world and how people will see you.
Education, environment are standardized. It means even if we are genetically unique, what we learn is often the same for everyone, especially nowadays with globalization. But even educations are different.
Books and studies allow almost everyone to acquire what is needed to better your education, still, love -interest in your survival- from your caregivers is important to develop a happy -chemically happy- personnality from the very beginning.
Hapiness is produced in the brain when you can dominate and basically when you know your odds of survival at the moment or in the future will be better than other people. Feeling dominant -at work, in your car, in the gym- makes you "feel good", and it serves as a coping mechanism to deal with the fact you might suck in others areas of your life - with women etc..- The brain, its capacity to project yourself in the future, and memory have for sole and only purpose to allow you to dominate life around you, or live in cooperation with it. And to kill it before it kills you if needed.
If you dont know what 's wrong with you, look at what's wrong with your parents, grand parents (when they didnt convince you in the firstplace that nothing was wrong with themselves...). What your parents and grandparents didnt get past, will be yours to get past.
Whatever you read or learn by yourself wont change your fundamental genetical or physical traits tho.
What you think/believe in is the sum of all the beliefs, thoughts, you ve been exposed to and recorded thru your eyes or ears. Your brain spends his whole life calculating how to mix all of these things and how these informations can help you survive.
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We are the sum of what precedes us. As is every living thing. Behaviors, thoughts, suboncscious life directions, and physical traits are only the sum of the genes of our parents, who were the sum of the genes of their parents and so on and so on. Every time a child is spawned, natural selection and evolution select physical and psychological, behavioral traits which will lead to a new human. His psychism and physique will be a unique mix of his parents genes. We are programmed, and most of what we think and do is automatic and not chosen.
Education, environment are standardized. It means even if we are genetically unique, what we learn is often the same for everyone, especially nowadays with globalization. But even educations are different.
Books and studies allow almost everyone to acquire what is needed to better your education, still, love -interest in your survival- from your caregivers is important to develop a happy -chemically happy- personnality from the very beginning.
A helpful reminder that genetics=everything!
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Genetics is a good thing but as the ifbb say DRUGS are a GREAT thing.
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Genetics is a good thing but as the ifbb say DRUGS are a GREAT thing.
IFBB is also a case of genetics=everything;
Steroid/drug response=genetics=genetics=everything
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I miss Team Terrible Genetics.
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I miss Team Terrible Genetics.
Actually it's THG (Team Horrible Genetics) and I am an unproud member!
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Actually it's THG (Team Horrible Genetics) and I am an unproud member!
just get on steroids and come back claiming natural under a different screen name. No one here will know the difference and you will probably be no less healthy than a guy who is naturally that muscular.
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just get on steroids and come back claiming natural under a different screen name. No one here will know the difference and you will probably be no less healthy than a guy who is naturally that muscular.
Maybe another time. What if my response to steroids was bad? Then doubly bad genetics...no way out.
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Actually it's THG (Team Horrible Genetics) and I am an unproud member!
;D
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cock size is more important, but cock size is also genetic
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;D
We do our best.
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cock size is more important, but cock size is also genetic
Exactly. Genetics=everything!
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Maybe another time. What if my response to steroids was bad? Then doubly bad genetics...no way out.
depression sucks. No way to think your way out of it. I suggest making a major change in your routine, needs to be something disruptive.
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depression sucks. No way to think your way out of it. I suggest making a major change in your routine, needs to be something disruptive.
Depression=genetics, genetics=everything, depression=everything.
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Deicide, have you ever self mutilated?
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Drugs =everything
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Deicide, have you ever self mutilated?
No, never. The problem with me is a natural born predilection towards depression and melancholy but a complete immunity to any sort of true psychosis or syndrome, i.e. insanity. I have known cutters but I have never been one of them.
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Self-pity is the most revolting trait a person can have
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Self-pity is the most revolting trait a person can have
This coming from someone who has virtually every achievement in his life due to his DNA. ::)
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Self-pity is the most revolting trait a person can have
x2
I dont think THG founder Deicide has self pity though. He is a deep thinker which can mess with your mind a little bit too much.
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This coming from someone who has virtually every achievement in his life due to his DNA. ::)
I'm not interested in conversing with you
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I'm not interested in conversing with you
Then you should not be contributing to my thread, Mr. 'Arm Don'. ::)
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Then you should not be contributing to my thread, Mr. 'Arm Don'. ::)
gossip and "OPINIONS" :)
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gossip and "OPINIONS" :)
Yes, I suppose.
But wait, you shouldn't converse with me.
I might infect you. :o
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Genetics=everything=being on top=cash=ladies=ramming rails of 36DD sluts day in day out??
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Many people kill themselves over poor genetics. Genes = the key to everything.
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ahahahahahaha 'groin' getting slapped around in here like fresh meat in a prison movie.
without his boyfriend alex to follow around he seems lost and out of place.
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look, Deciede, bro....I am short, can't get around it...I have good facial genetics...but, I have some health problems...a few yrs back, i had to learn to look at things for what they are, not for what you want them to be...I guess it's a variation on the "God grant me serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference" and the " God doesn't put anything on my plate that I can't handle" (this is if you believe in God).
due to this, i began to accept things, for what they are....and a calmness ensued...don't muddle thru life obsessing over bad genetics, shit you might just outlived everybody on this board---who is Team Bad genetics then?
Depression--go outside on a sunny day or go to the beach---and let the calmness, the wind, the leaves blowing in the wind, be your guide, or just meditate...be introspective and search within...you'll probably find that your Depression is a result of you Suppressing your true self...
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Genetics like all scientific properties are just the expression of a certain aspect of life.
We are neither explained nor determined by them.
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Genetics=everything?
Discuss...
Holy shit, pm me your address and i send you some steroids.
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look, Deciede, bro....I am short, can't get around it...I have good facial genetics...but, I have some health problems...a few yrs back, i had to learn to look at things for what they are, not for what you want them to be...I guess it's a variation on the "God grant me serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference" and the " God doesn't put anything on my plate that I can't handle" (this is if you believe in God).
due to this, i began to accept things, for what they are....and a calmness ensued...don't muddle thru life obsessing over bad genetics, shit you might just outlived everybody on this board---who is Team Bad genetics then?
Depression--go outside on a sunny day or go to the beach---and let the calmness, the wind, the leaves blowing in the wind, be your guide, or just meditate...be introspective and search within...you'll probably find that your Depression is a result of you Suppressing your true self...
Good Post Parker.
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Genetics like all scientific properties are just the expression of a certain aspect of life.
We are neither explained nor determined by them.
So bbing success is not determined by genetics? ::)
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So bbing success is not determined by genetics? ::)
It's partly determined by "Veranlagung", a scientific aspect of it being genetics.
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It's partly determined by "Veranlagung", a scientific aspect of it being genetics.
Haha, WL partly retracts his statement. It's not partly and you know it; if you and I had great bbing genetics we would have at least an extra 10kg of muscle mass.
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Haha, WL partly retracts his statement. It's not partly and you know it; if you and I had great bbing genetics we would have at least an extra 10kg of muscle mass.
I did not retract my statement. There are scientific aspects of many things, that doesn't mean you can explain the essence of things by that aspects.
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I did not retract my statement. There are scientific aspects of many things, that doesn't mean you can explain the essence of things by that aspects.
So muscle size, shape, growth potential is only 'partly determined' by 'Veranlagung'?
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So muscle size, shape, growth potential is only 'partly determined' by 'Veranlagung'?
Obviously. If you e.g. don't work out, size will be smaller.
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Obviously. If you e.g. don't work out, size will be smaller.
Geez man, you love dodging the facts.
Two men, one average white man, one athletic black man, begin working out, have the exact same diet, training routine, etc...
After a year, white man has only put on 5kg of muscle mass and much more fat; black man put on over 8kg and almost no fat...
genetics=everything!
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Geez man, you love dodging the facts.
Two men, one average white man, one athletic black man, begin working out, have the exact same diet, training routine, etc...
After a year, white man has out on only 5kg of muscle mass and much more fat; black man put on over 8kg and almost no fat...
genetics=everything!
If that's what you mean by "Genetics are everything", and there is scientific evidence for that notion, I agree.
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Parker dropping excessive knowledge !!
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If that's what you mean by "Genetics are everything", and there is scientific evidence for that notion, I agree.
Are you saying some people do not have a better than average genetic response than others to weight training?
Seriously I have seen ghetto black people in the Bronx that eat a shitty diet doing pullups on the jungle gym being bigger and more ripped than a white man working his ass off in the gym.
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Are you saying some people do not have a better than average genetic response than others to weight training?
Seriously I have seen ghetto black people in the Bronx that eat a shitty diet doing pullups on the jungle gym being bigger and more ripped than a white man working his ass off in the gym.
What can I do more than agree?
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What can I do more than agree?
You can give me your life! ;D
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Are you saying some people do not have a better than average genetic response than others to weight training?
Seriously I have seen ghetto black people in the Bronx that eat a shitty diet doing pullups on the jungle gym being bigger and more ripped than a white man working his ass off in the gym.
Jimmy the Greek said it all but got fired for saying it. Breeding is the key.
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You can give me your life! ;D
I'm posting on getbig on a Sunday afternoon, how much of a life can I possibly have? ;D
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Pretty obvious fact - genetics = all.
But what you make of your genetics is your job - how bad or good they may be.
Training is like plastic surgery - it can't turn you into a beautiful human being but it can enhance your appearance.
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Pretty obvious fact - genetics = all.
But what you make of your genetics is your job - how bad or good they may be.
Training is like plastic surgery - it can't turn you into a beautiful human being but it can enhance your appearance.
X2 on this Bruce.
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Pretty obvious fact - genetics = all.
But what you make of your genetics is your job - how bad or good they may be.
Training is like plastic surgery - it can't turn you into a beautiful human being but it can enhance your appearance.
This is the wisest and best thing a getbigger has ever said and should be stickied!
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Once again, Deicide is doing his usual whinefest, because he feels his mommy and daddy didn't give him the right "genes" to put on the muscle he wants.
Your blubbering and complaining have done more to hinder your progress than your genetics ever could. First, you were whining when you turned 30; then you were whining because you were in a foreign country. Now, it's this "I've just got bad genetic; woe-is-me; let-me-go-eat-a-can-of-worms" routine.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Either do the best with what you have and bust your tail in the progress, or take up badminton. But for the love of the almighty, CEASE AND DESIST with all this crying.
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Once again, Deicide is doing his usual whinefest, because he feels his mommy and daddy didn't give him the right "genes" to put on the muscle he wants.
Your blubbering and complaining have done more to hinder your progress than your genetics ever could. First, you were whining when you turned 30; then you were whining because you were in a foreign country. Now, it's this "I've just got bad genetic; woe-is-me; let-me-go-eat-a-can-of-worms" routine.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Either do the best with what you have and bust your tail in the progress, or take up badminton. But for the love of the almighty, CEASE AND DESIST with all this crying.
A healthy reminder that genetics=everything.
Thank you for your contribution! :)
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A healthy reminder that genetics=everything.
Thank you for your contribution! :)
Not even close! Even Arnold has stated that he's met his share of genetic marvels who didn't do JACK in bodybuilding because they were too lazy and didn't push themselves. He's also met guys who weren't exactly gifted and they ended up, through sheer perseverance and smart and hard work, winning shows like the Universe, even the Olympia.
Once again, either do the best with what you have or zip your lip and take up another hobby. Whining and blubbering ain't putting a single ounce of sinew on your frame.
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yes, they are everything,after that comes the drugs and then everything else.
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genetics mean a lot but with hard work you can come far as well.
most people dont get everything out of what is possible for them.
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genetics mean a lot but with hard work you can come far as well.
most people dont get everything out of what is possible for them.
X2 although some people's genetics are very harsh for them...
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According to Arthur Jones they are
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The title of Decide's autobiography
"30 and directionless"
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The title of Decide's autobiography
"30 and directionless"
Think I could make money with a book like that? ???
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A person with shit genetics can become better/more successful that a person with good genetics.
We are limited ultimately by our genetics but 99.9999999999999% of people never reach their genetic potential in any aspect of life.
Work ethic is important too!
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Think I could make money with a book like that? ???
Yep,
A lot of guys in your position. A receding hairline accompanied by an expanding waist line and a shrinking bank account. A lost generation in need of role model to champion the cause.....This is where you step in.
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Yep,
A lot of guys in your position. A receding hairline accompanied by an expanding waist line and a shrinking bank account. A lost generation in need of role model to champion the cause.....This is where you step in.
My path is clear! :)
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A person with shit genetics can become better/more successful that a person with good genetics.
We are limited ultimately by our genetics but 99.9999999999999% of people never reach their genetic potential in any aspect of life.
Work ethic is important too!
Sure Goudy but the fact is I will never lift weights like you or be as strong as you, even if I worked harder in the gym than you. You are a (N.)Irish giant!
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And I will never be as big or strong as someone else.
Maybe never be as rich as someone or as healthy as someone else. All relative!