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cue newt to change positions again.
I originally supported this no fly zone.
then I said some other shit.
Now I support our ousting of Kadaffi!
Why the hell didn't kadaffi escape to africa with his millions when he had the chance?
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cue newt to change positions again.
I originally supported this no fly zone.
then I said some other shit.
Now I support our ousting of Kadaffi!
Why the hell didn't kadaffi escape to africa with his millions when he had the chance?
No real conformation yet, that was my first thought, why the hell would Kadaffi still be hanging around in Libya.
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cue newt to change positions again.
I originally supported this no fly zone.
then I said some other shit.
Now I support our ousting of Kadaffi!
Why the hell didn't kadaffi escape to africa with his millions when he had the chance?
Hubris.
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stark posted video on the main bord from al-jazerra. dragging his naked body around. he's dead.
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I think its safe to say that Obama has probably been by far, the most effective United States President regarding dealing with Terrorism, their sponsors and dictatorial regimes.
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I think its safe to say that Obama has probably been by far, the most effective United States President regarding dealing with Terrorism, their sponsors and dictatorial regimes.
I had to re-read this a few times... but I think you're absolutely correct.
Reagan, bush 1&2, clinton...
It's tough to argue Obama hasn't killed more leaders than any of them... hell, combined?
Bush gave us a solid foothold but never was able to "get" the bad guys aside from Saddam.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama turns his attention to North korea or venez now... both with ailing leaders... and start making some demands.
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No real conformation yet, that was my first thought, why the hell would Kadaffi still be hanging around in Libya.
sour grapes don't taste so good do they???
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I think its safe to say that Obama has probably been by far, the most effective United States President regarding dealing with Terrorism, their sponsors and dictatorial regimes.
excellent post
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I had to re-read this a few times... but I think you're absolutely correct.
Reagan, bush 1&2, clinton...
It's tough to argue Obama hasn't killed more leaders than any of them... hell, combined?
Bush gave us a solid foothold but never was able to "get" the bad guys aside from Saddam.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama turns his attention to North korea or venez now... both with ailing leaders... and start making some demands.
that would be so cool if he did..Obama has shown the world that he will put a boot in their ass if he wants to
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I had to re-read this a few times... but I think you're absolutely correct.
What policy changes and different types of decisions do you think he implemented that's made him more successful?
I think this is just the culmination of years of tracking and intelligence gathering.
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cue newt to change positions again.
I originally supported this no fly zone.
then I said some other shit.
Now I support our ousting of Kadaffi!
Why the hell didn't kadaffi escape to africa with his millions when he had the chance?
PRIDE
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PRIDE
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see, we can find pics of kadaffi posing with members of the last few admins. your pic does nothing, 33.
your 'winning' picture hasn't come up today. weird.
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see, we can find pics of kadaffi posing with members of the last few admins. your pic does nothing, 33.
your 'winning' picture hasn't come up today. weird.
3333 won't recover
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What policy changes and different types of decisions do you think he implemented that's made him more successful?
I think this is just the culmination of years of tracking and intelligence gathering.
Bump.
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sour grapes don't taste so good do they???
What sour grapes, last I heard there was no conformation he was dead. What an fucking asshole
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240 and Andre need to get a room. They could be alone together celebrating the glorious victory against the world threat Gadafi.
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What sour grapes, last I heard there was no conformation he was dead. What an fucking asshole
sigh..you neo-cons always resort to name-calling when you look like an ass and your opinion is found to be wrong...get over it
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240 and Andre need to get a room. They could be alone together celebrating the glorious victory against the world threat Gadafi.
actually we are celebrating our glorious victory against you
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sigh..you neo-cons always resort to name-calling when you look like an ass and your opinion is found to be wrong...get over it
Andre - how many have you rubbed out today to your "Black Jesus"?
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Andre - how many have you rubbed out today to your "Black Jesus"?
hahaah...I love it when Obama gets under your skin with another victory.....
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sigh..you neo-cons always resort to name-calling when you look like an ass and your opinion is found to be wrong...get over it
who's calling who a neocon? These days you and TA look a lot more like the neocons we wanted to get rid of. Suckers....
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who's calling who a neocon? These days you and TA look a lot more like the neocons we wanted to get rid of. Suckers....
Are you still in La-La Land with Poop Paul, the weakest Commander-In-Chief we will never have? ;)
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who's calling who a neocon?
People who don't know what they're talking about always throw around neocon and conservative as if they're interchangeable.
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The biggest change / cause for Obama's Admin removing more heads of state is simply because they DO IT.
Fuck, Bush could have removed Osama but instead he let him have his freedom in the Tora Bora mountains.
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People who don't know what they're talking about always throw around neocon and conservative as if they're interchangeable.
explain
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Are you still in La-La Land with Poop Paul, the weakest Commander-In-Chief we will never have? ;)
go jogging through a prairie dog field with a butcher knife.
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explain
What's to explain?
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U.S. Predator Drone Fired on Qaddafi Convoy, Official Says
Updated: Thursday, 20 Oct 2011, 1:40 PM CDT
A U.S. Predator drone, along with a French fighter jet, fired on the convoy said to be carrying Muammar Qaddafi in the moments before his death, a U.S. defense official told Fox News on Thursday.
The official said the drone and French jet fired on a "large convoy" leaving Qaddafi's hometown of Sirte. A French defense official earlier said about 80 vehicles were in the convoy -- the official said the strike did not destroy the convoy but that fighters on the ground afterward intercepted the vehicle carrying Qaddafi.
President Obama said Thursday that the death of Qaddafi ends a "long and painful chapter" for the Libyan people.
The president, speaking in the Rose Garden, announced that Libyans have "won their revolution."
"Today we can definitively say that the Qaddafi regime has come to an end," he said.
Qaddafi died of wounds suffered during his capture near Sirte, according to a spokesman for the National Transitional Council in Libya.
Fox News' Jennifer Griffin and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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A bunch of arm chair historians jerking each other off. Gaddafi mattered 25 years ago..who gives a shit. Bush made him renounce wmd's. Bush's military, through 10 years of honing air to ground combat support helped the rebels. Further...we have zero idea what kind of government will form...I can guess. Unless we have boots on the ground...your going to get nutbags. I certainly don't want a free trip to Libya. Iran is the threat now and always has been. Syria massacred its folks...Barry sat by yet decided this idiot was an easier target so he went after him. Barry is pulling out of Iraq..we'll see how that works out.
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240 cares about one thing and one thing only - support, defend, deflect, derail, kneepad, tampon, and give endless bjs to obama 24/7
I would not be surprised if he is not on OFA payroll.
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I want hear anybody say that things won't come off the rails in Libya. Show me historically that they won't. We're seeing it in Egypt right now.
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i would like any terrorist who killed 200 americans to be bombed from above.
that's just me.
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That ship sailed a long time ago. You know why we didn't...because he's a secular nutbag and we have bigger fish to fry. Besides GWB scared him into silence.
Why are we content to allow Saudi Arabia to do what they do..because by inlarge they play ball. They keep the peace with Israel and thats where the go juice comes from. If u don't like it..blame the douchbag in the White House because he won't let us drill here.
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People who don't know what they're talking about always throw around neocon and conservative as if they're interchangeable.
Truth.
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A bunch of arm chair historians jerking each other off. Gaddafi mattered 25 years ago..who gives a shit. Bush made him renounce wmd's. Bush's military, through 10 years of honing air to ground combat support helped the rebels. Further...we have zero idea what kind of government will form...I can guess. Unless we have boots on the ground...your going to get nutbags. I certainly don't want a free trip to Libya. Iran is the threat now and always has been. Syria massacred its folks...Barry sat by yet decided this idiot was an easier target so he went after him. Barry is pulling out of Iraq..we'll see how that works out.
I think you are obviously the one who jerks off to hoping Obama fails......you keep waiting for that and you're gonna get blue balls
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240 cares about one thing and one thing only - support, defend, deflect, derail, kneepad, tampon, and give endless bjs to obama 24/7
I would not be surprised if he is not on OFA payroll.
actually you just described yourself perfectly....
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I want hear anybody say that things won't come off the rails in Libya. Show me historically that they won't. We're seeing it in Egypt right now.
if it does its their loss..we did what we set out to do..if they blow it thats their stupidity
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I think you are obviously the one who jerks off to hoping Obama fails......you keep waiting for that and you're gonna get blue balls
Obama has already failed. Healthcare, the stimulus, cash for clunkers, bad loans, bad cabinet appointments, scandals, high unemployment, higher gas prices, etc., etc.
The country is not better off today than it was three years ago.
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Obama has already failed. Healthcare, the stimulus, cash for clunkers, bad loans, bad cabinet appointments, scandals, high unemployment, higher gas prices, etc., etc.
The country is not better off today than it was three years ago.
your opinion...again...the Repubs would not work with him and had a deliberate strategy of wanting him to fail
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your opinion...again...the Repubs would not work with him and had a deliberate strategy of wanting him to fail
It's not just my opinion. Everything I listed is a fact. You're not suggesting Obamacare and the stimulus (just two examples) were a success, are you?
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if it does its their loss..we did what we set out to do..if they blow it thats their stupidity
Um....again, did u fail history or geography? If Libya goes muslim nutbag...do u think they'll be content to be nuts inside the borders of that country. Europe gets a bit of oil from that country and will have to deal with any negative fall-out from this. This means we'll have to deal with it before to long. NAIVE!
Why would the repubs work with a lib agenda bent on wasting more tax payer funds. U don't work with the enemy..u defeat him. Barry doesn't compromise anyway...
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Um....again, did u fail history or geography? If Libya goes muslim nutbag...do u think they'll be content to be nuts inside the borders of that country. Europe gets a bit of oil from that country and will have to deal with any negative fall-out from this. This means we'll have to deal with it before to long. NAIVE!
Why would the repubs work with a lib agenda bent on wasting more tax payer funds. U don't work with the enemy..u defeat him. Barry doesn't compromise anyway...
first of all....EPIC SPIN on your part...Obama emerged victorious again and you can't handle it....he said he would get rid of Ghadafi and he did..WITHOUT ONE AMERICAN LOSS OF LIFE...thats an amazing accomplishment....you are so anti-Obama that you are making yourself look foolish
Senator John McCain commenting on CNN: "the administration deserves a lot of the credit....the world is a better place without Ghadafi.......its a great accomplishment for the Obama administration"
I think I trust his word more than yours
KEEP CRYING
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Well douche....when the wheels come of the wagon because of this waste of time....it won't be you that has to pack his shit and deploy is it. What do I care what McCain thinks..he's a fucking RINO and ran an inept campaign against a guy who would have been laughed off the ticket 20 years ago...thanks GWB. Anti Obama..me...no anti means I have a moderate dislike for him. I fucking hate Barry with every fiber of my being..that extendes to liberal douches like you. I view him as the enemy...he's destroying my country. 2012 can't come fast enough.
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Well douche....when the wheels come of the wagon because of this waste of time....it won't be you that has to pack his shit and deploy is it. What do I care what McCain thinks..he's a fucking RINO and ran an inept campaign against a guy who would have been laughed off the ticket 20 years ago...thanks GWB. Anti Obama..me...no anti means I have a moderate dislike for him. I fucking hate Barry with every fiber of my being..that extendes to liberal douches like you. I view him as the enemy...he's destroying my country. 2012 can't come fast enough.
if you hate Obama then you can't possibly be objective about him....which further proves you are delusional and full of sour grapes.....this thread is for objective thinkers who have critical thinking skills...
sorry..you don't meet this criteria
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Your an obamabot....with a naive world outlook. Unlike u...when things you see on the news happen, it changes my life on a daily basis. We have rationally listed Obama's drawback, shortcomings, inexperience, all throughout the campaign and beyond. When he began to fail..u idiots defended him. We're now past all of that. U people are destroying the country and need to be stopped. We voted a ton out in 2012 and the head idiot goes in 2012. Obama has repudiated by his actions, the far left movement and its ideals. I can't imagine if my belief system came crashing down. I guess you and the friggen soviets all have something more in common now.
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Your an obamabot....with a naive world outlook. Unlike u...when things you see on the news happen, it changes my life on a daily basis. We have rationally listed Obama's drawback, shortcomings, inexperience, all throughout the campaign and beyond. When he began to fail..u idiots defended him. We're now past all of that. U people are destroying the country and need to be stopped. We voted a ton out in 2012 and the head idiot goes in 2012. Obama has repudiated by his actions, the far left movement and its ideals. I can't imagine if my belief system came crashing down. I guess you and the friggen soviets all have something more in common now.
hh6,
which US leader deserves credit for the death of a terrorist who killed 200+ americans and committed countless human rights violations over 41 years?
Bush? Clinton? Obama? Reagan? :)
I can tell you who would have gotten the BLAME on this one ;)
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hh6,
which US leader deserves credit for the death of a terrorist who killed 200+ americans and committed countless human rights violations over 41 years?
Bush? Clinton? Obama? Reagan? :)
I can tell you who would have gotten the BLAME on this one ;)
Yet you never blame obama on anything that goes wrong. Got it chief.
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Much like Obama isn't entirely to blame for the current economic disaster..he's not getting all the credit for this crap. Ok...whatever..now what guys..what happens now? 48 hours we're back to OWS/Fast and Furious/Solandra and the FUCKING economy..bottom line..who gives a shit.
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Yet you never blame obama on anything that goes wrong. Got it chief.
i blame obama for lots of shit. stim bill sucked. invested $in tons of shitty places. covering up crimes in F&F. a slave to the bankers. he sucks in a lot of areas.
remember - i give cheney credit for being the greatest uS visionary in the last 25 years. i give bush credit for being a very smart man- MBA AND he was awesome with people. Donald rummy was a master at getting the masses to support what he supported. I give praise when it's deserved.
Obama got the MFer today. period.
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Much like Obama isn't entirely to blame for the current economic disaster..he's not getting all the credit for this crap. Ok...whatever..now what guys..what happens now? 48 hours we're back to OWS/Fast and Furious/Solandra and the FUCKING economy..bottom line..who gives a shit.
you do obviously....you're melting down ;)
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Nope..but u know what will be great...pulling the Obama picture we have to have on the wall down and fucking burning it when this asshole looses his job. Nobody talks about whats happening in Egypt do they? Oh and McCains full comment was that had US air power been used like they should have this would have ended much much sooner. Barry turned this over to NATO in June.
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you do obviously....you're melting down ;)
Andre - how many times did you jerk off today thinking of Obama's cock in your ass forcing you to yell "Hope & Change" ?
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So we spent billions to help jihadists, terrorists and other mass murderers of Americans kill a man who had spent the last decade ingratiating himself with us in order for Europe to secure his country’s oil wealth, all the while losing track of tens of thousands of SAMs and other advanced weaponry in the process. Meanwhile, oil is back over $106/barrel even after having priced in the Libyan refineries coming back online.
As if the farce wasn’t already comical enough, Syria’s Assad has killed 100-fold more people than Gaddafi did yet the UN can’t even so much as agree on a sternly worded letter of condemnation.
Hooray! That’s definitely the mark of “success”! “Anti-war” leftists celebrating bloodshed because their God-King was the one who launched us into this war. Morons.
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As if the farce wasn’t already comical enough, Syria’s Assad has killed 100-fold more people
link to source? Kadaffi sent hit squads all over the world to kill journalists who wrote bad thigns about him - with a $1mil bounty.
We don't know how many people he killed in his own country - 10% of the country was spies and they were in the bottom 10% in the world in terms of fredom of press. So nobody reported what went on in there.
Link to 10x the number of killing proof?
besides... that dude in syris is probably worrying he's next....
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I haven't seen a single video of Gaddafi forces "massacring" civilians as was claimed by the MSM. I have seen a dozen+ videos of Syrian troops mowing down unarmed protesters in the streets. I've also seen articles about mass graves with Gaddafi's soldiers in them.
And if we're going to talk about worldwide terrorism, you do know that Syria, along with Iran, is the chief financier of Hezbollah, who up until 9/11 had killed more Americans than any other terrorist group on the planet. But don't let facts stand in your way or anything.
We loaned our army out so Europe could steal Gaddafi's oil in an unconstitutional war. The same Europeans who love thumbing their noses at us and undermining us every change they get. You go ahead and cheer that.
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i'm all for us spending $2 bil and putting in a puppet regime in Syria :)
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i'm all for us spending $2 bil and putting in a puppet regime in Syria :)
So you're a warmonger who criticizes Bush for launching us into the Iraq war while simultaneously advocating for war against Syria.
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I relinquish the floor to the gentleman from...where ever. I'm glad BF showed up so I can go do something else. I'm glad I can't post at work...never get anything done.
The guy in Syria has a massive military and his boys are machine gunning everybody. Until a major unit defects..to whom I have no idea, Assad isn't going anywhere. 240 pulled me right back in.
Reuters reported mass graves..and hen gave numbers of 8-10 bodies in a ditch. I expect the bots will post that story. That to me isn't an example of mass graves..and some where outside hospitals or adjacent to battlefields. There's plenty of video of syrian forces wasting lots of people.
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So you're a warmonger who criticizes Bush for launching us into the Iraq war while simultaneously advocating for war against Syria.
i criticize bush for lying about WMD.
I would rather he have said "iraq dropped the buck this year. ol' cheney cut up those oil fields with exxon and BP back in summer 2001, and a war is good for the economy. Who's in?"
I would have voted for that war, sure.
But the whole bullshit wmd thing? insulted the intelligence. I know, it sat well in the moral cockles of the "repubs" who voted clinton, voted 2000 with their bible after they all found God when clinton got a BJ... because "it's cool in the bible to take an eye... because the other guys might SOMEDAY try to take my eye..."
I get why they lied. I just feel insulted they did.
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Andre - how many times did you jerk off today thinking of Obama's cock in your ass forcing you to yell "Hope & Change" ?
hahaha...funny....I've got you on the run....you're melting down now....Obama's success is making you look like a fool...50,000 posts of anti-Obama crap ...for nothing......what a waste of time....your life is meaningless
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hahaha...funny....I've got you on the run....you're melting down now....Obama's success is making you look like a fool...50,000 posts of anti-Obama crap ...for nothing......what a waste of time....your life is meaningless
406,000 UE claims today moron!
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So we spent billions to help jihadists, terrorists and other mass murderers of Americans kill a man who had spent the last decade ingratiating himself with us in order for Europe to secure his country’s oil wealth, all the while losing track of tens of thousands of SAMs and other advanced weaponry in the process. Meanwhile, oil is back over $106/barrel even after having priced in the Libyan refineries coming back online.
As if the farce wasn’t already comical enough, Syria’s Assad has killed 100-fold more people than Gaddafi did yet the UN can’t even so much as agree on a sternly worded letter of condemnation.
Hooray! That’s definitely the mark of “success”! “Anti-war” leftists celebrating bloodshed because their God-King was the one who launched us into this war. Morons.
Morons???.....wow.....this word describes you exactly....again..you were wrong..just admit it and move on..this is why you wind up looking foolish...all you had to say was that Obama did a great job..he was right..and then move on so you could fight another day....all this whining and crying from you is embarrassing....as Ozmo stated, you are a conservative parrot who can't or won't think for himself
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406,000 UE claims today moron!
changing the subject again fool......keep melting :D..this is the most fun I've had on this board in a while
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changing the subject again fool......keep melting :D..this is the most fun I've had on this board in a while
Yeah, because 9 of 10 days obama is flailing failing falling flopping and floundering.
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Morons???.....wow.....this word describes you exactly....again..you were wrong..just admit it and move on..this is why you wind up looking foolish...all you had to say was that Obama did a great job..he was right..and then move on so you could fight another day....all this whining and crying from you is embarrassing....as Ozmo stated, you are a conservative parrot who can't or won't think for himself
Wrong about what? 7 months to depose Gaddafi and for what exactly? ::)
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Wrong about what? 7 months to depose Gaddafi and for what exactly? ::)
maybe a 1 point bounce for a week at best.
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Flashback: Gaddafi Praises Obama As a “Friend”
(April 17th, 2010) — Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi considers the US president a blessing to the Muslim world. In a speech published in London-based al-Hayat newspaper on Saturday, Gaddafi praised Barack Obama, called him a “friend” and said there is no longer any dispute between his country and the US.
Speaking in the Libyan city of Sirt at an event marking the 24th anniversary of an American attack on Libya, he said, “At the time, we were the target of the American cannon, the American navy challenged us in the gulf of Sirt and attacked us all along Libya’s shores. America tested Libya, and the Libyan people resisted the large country, but today, thank God, the difference is great.”
He said, “Now, ruling America is a black man from our continent, an African from Arab descent, from Muslim descent, and this is something we never imagined – that from Reagan we would get to Barakeh Obama.”
Gaddafi stressed that Obama’s presidency is “a major historical gain” and said, “He is someone I consider a friend. He knows he is a son of Africa. Regardless of his African belonging, he is of Arab Sudanese descent, or of Muslim descent. He is a man whose policy should be supported, and he should be assisted in implementing it in any way possible, since he is now leaning towards peace.”
He continued, “I urge all peoples to give him this chance and to support this policy, because America is a country that, when its policy is bad – harms the world, and when it is good – it helps the world.”
The Libyan leader also expressed hopes that, “the dream that Obama has for a world free of nuclear weapons will come true. This is something that no previous American president has proposed. Obama is a man who opposes wars that previous American presidents were entangled in; he has declared that he will withdraw from Afghanistan and Iraq – something which has never been proposed before.”
Gaddafi learned the hard way. There isn't anyone Obama won't throw under the bus (see: England).
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i'm all for us spending $2 bil and putting in a puppet regime in Syria :)
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The US has no business getting involved.
billion spent on an illegal war in libya.
And I stand by my original position - stated before Rush and Hannity gave yall an opinion to parrot - I'm 100% against US involvement in libya. Obama should have let kadaffi kill 10,000 people, and it'd be over now.
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Ouch!
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this thread is for objective thinkers who have critical thinking skills...
Please add links to some of your posts that show anything beyond a surface level, face-value understanding of this subject.
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Please add links to some of your posts that show anything beyond a surface level, face-value understanding of this subject.
you do the same as well please
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I think we all knew that when Tripoli fell that this was inevitable. Nice to see another dictator fall. Unsure about the resulting stability and still think over all it's was a bad idea to get involved.
But a couple of thoughts:
- After 3 years of having a dem in office the old stereotype of a democrat being too much of an wuss in regards to military matters seems a bit defunk now lol
- why did ghadfi stay there? Was it because no other country would give him asylum?
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I think we all knew that when Tripoli fell that this was inevitable. Nice to see another dictator fall. Unsure about the resulting stability and still think over all it's was a bad idea to get involved.
But a couple of thoughts:
- After 3 years of having a dem in office the old stereotype of a democrat being too much of an wuss in regards to military matters seems a bit defunk now lol
- why did ghadfi stay there? Was it because no other country would give him asylum?
very good points.......Obama is the most militarist Democrat I've seen in my lifetime.....he is very harsh with dealing with our enemies.....the republicans definitely can't use the commander-in-chief issue against him
as for Ghadafi....I agree with you.I thought he was idiotic to continue fighting ....he should have left along time ago and just enjoy his stolen 100 billion on a nice beach somewhere.....but I guess all dictators are delusional in the end and they feel they are invincible (even Hitler refused to surrender and flee to south America when he had the chance)
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you do the same as well please
Unfortunately, it wasn't me who was accusing others of lacking critical thought, that was you. Therefore the burden of proof is on your shoulders.
I have read many posts in this thread providing some in depth thought on what the possible outcomes of this regime change will bring, and the impacts it could have on EU, and then the United States.
While I, of course, think that getting rid of an evil dictator is a good start, the fallout is what is most pressing. HH6 provided examples of Egypt that shows the negative ramifications that can develop. Do you think this is an issue?
Also, assuming the same intelligence and decisions that were made, do you believe that the prior regime would have been unable to have Khadaffi ousted and capture?
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you do the same as well please
fuckin witty! lol
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Doh! lol
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Flashback: Gaddafi Praises Obama As a “Friend”
(April 17th, 2010) — Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi considers the US president a blessing to the Muslim world. In a speech published in London-based al-Hayat newspaper on Saturday, Gaddafi praised Barack Obama, called him a “friend” and said there is no longer any dispute between his country and the US.
Speaking in the Libyan city of Sirt at an event marking the 24th anniversary of an American attack on Libya, he said, “At the time, we were the target of the American cannon, the American navy challenged us in the gulf of Sirt and attacked us all along Libya’s shores. America tested Libya, and the Libyan people resisted the large country, but today, thank God, the difference is great.”
He said, “Now, ruling America is a black man from our continent, an African from Arab descent, from Muslim descent, and this is something we never imagined – that from Reagan we would get to Barakeh Obama.”
Gaddafi stressed that Obama’s presidency is “a major historical gain” and said, “He is someone I consider a friend. He knows he is a son of Africa. Regardless of his African belonging, he is of Arab Sudanese descent, or of Muslim descent. He is a man whose policy should be supported, and he should be assisted in implementing it in any way possible, since he is now leaning towards peace.”
He continued, “I urge all peoples to give him this chance and to support this policy, because America is a country that, when its policy is bad – harms the world, and when it is good – it helps the world.”
The Libyan leader also expressed hopes that, “the dream that Obama has for a world free of nuclear weapons will come true. This is something that no previous American president has proposed. Obama is a man who opposes wars that previous American presidents were entangled in; he has declared that he will withdraw from Afghanistan and Iraq – something which has never been proposed before.”
Gaddafi learned the hard way. There isn't anyone Obama won't throw under the bus (see: England).
Funny. With friends like these . . . .
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Funny. With friends like these . . . .
did obama agree they were friends? kadaffi also called him son, right?
you assign credibility to a murderous dictator who killed americans.
i dont konw why you do that.
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did obama agree they were friends? kadaffi also called him son, right?
you assign credibility to a murderous dictator who killed americans.
i dont konw why you do that.
:D great point
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if obama had said they were great friends, i'd agree is was pretty fcked up to dog him.
but just because a dictator said it, it makes it so?
I remember when US denied, but kadaffi accused Reagan of arming bin laden. Wait, bad example...
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Unfortunately, it wasn't me who was accusing others of lacking critical thought, that was you. Therefore the burden of proof is on your shoulders.
I have read many posts in this thread providing some in depth thought on what the possible outcomes of this regime change will bring, and the impacts it could have on EU, and then the United States.
While I, of course, think that getting rid of an evil dictator is a good start, the fallout is what is most pressing. HH6 provided examples of Egypt that shows the negative ramifications that can develop. Do you think this is an issue?
Also, assuming the same intelligence and decisions that were made, do you believe that the prior regime would have been unable to have Khadaffi ousted and capture?
The ramifications could be bad....but it could be good as well...it gives Libya a chance at having a democracy and it gives the U.S. and its allies the chance to have an ally in Libya.....again...the U.S. cannot guarantee any outcome..we can try to shape things as best we can so that we can have a more favorable outcome...but its all up to the Libyans...as well as with the Egyptians...we did our part...its up to them now....Democracy is messy....there is going to be infighting and other troubles....but again..its up to them to shape their country..if they fuck it up..its their problem..you can't blame Obama for that.....if Iraq does not become a functioning democracy and slips back into dictatorship, is that Bush's fault???..NO.//its the Iraqis fault....they professed that they wanted to get rid of Saddham and have a free democracy..we gave them the chance.....its all up to them
whats your opinion
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At least people in Lybia know how to use a camera and aren't afraid of offending anyone with the photos they take..
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At least people in Lybia know how to use a camera and aren't afraid of offending anyone with the photos they take..
The only reason this happened was because of a United States Predator Drone which led the French NATO Strike.
Keep that in mind as Poop Paul would have none of that.
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The only reason this happened was because of a United States Predator Drone which led the French NATO Strike.
Keep that in mind as Poop Paul would have none of that.
I dont give a fuck what happens in lybia or the Kadaffi. It affects my life in no way, so I never saw the purpose of spending a dime on them for any purpose what so ever. Now we have a bunch of factions fighting for power, who the hell knows whta kinda nutjobs will come out of this?
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I dont give a fuck what happens in lybia or the Kadaffi. It affects my life in no way, so I never saw the purpose of spending a dime on them for any purpose what so ever. Now we have a bunch of factions fighting for power, who the hell knows whta kinda nutjobs will come out of this?
Racist post reported.
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Can someone win the noble peace prize more than once?
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The ramifications could be bad....but it could be good as well...it gives Libya a chance at having a democracy and it gives the U.S. and its allies the chance to have an ally in Libya.....again...the U.S. cannot guarantee any outcome..we can try to shape things as best we can so that we can have a more favorable outcome...but its all up to the Libyans...as well as with the Egyptians...we did our part...its up to them now....Democracy is messy....there is going to be infighting and other troubles....but again..its up to them to shape their country..if they fuck it up..its their problem..you can't blame Obama for that.....if Iraq does not become a functioning democracy and slips back into dictatorship, is that Bush's fault???..NO.//its the Iraqis fault....they professed that they wanted to get rid of Saddham and have a free democracy..we gave them the chance.....its all up to them
whats your opinion
I think any time Islamic Law is to a big part of the legislation of a governing body, the chance for radicals to get power is real and dangerous. I'm not banking on getting a democratic ally over this. Yes, Khaddafi did not deserve to continue to rule, but it's all about what happens next, if we're going to go the giving credit route.
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The only reason this happened was because of a United States Predator Drone which led the French NATO Strike.
Keep that in mind as Poop Paul would have none of that.
very nice....I agree with this and stated it in another thread..Those drones we have are really ass-kickers!!!