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they say the WIC benefits will end before that like funding for shit like baby formula wich is crazy expensive and overpriced
but i was really suprised to hear them talking about Welfare checks and people not getting them. thats going to make shit get reeealy interesting
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they say the WIC benefits will end before that like funding for shit like baby formula wich is crazy expensive and overpriced
but i was really suprised to hear them talking about Welfare checks and people not getting them. thats going to make shit get reeealy interesting
It's all a scare tactic by the liberal media.
Either way, it doesn't affect those of us who live a vegetarian healthy lifestyle.
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Arizona was the only state not issuing welfare checks as a result of the government shutdown. This has since changed and they will issue checks. So, all of you who are on welfare should be fine for awhile.
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USA is broke.
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Masses will be lining up to work for Falcon Enterprises for $8hr very soon.
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Sooner the better ....its a fvuckin lifestyle now
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PIP Wiggs.
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Its like the mofo who got ran over by the SUV....lives a few towns over from me with all the rest of the manipulators.
Family man with 2 kids and a wife......mofo ain't married....thats how they roll in Massachusetts....If they got married they wouldn't get free every fvcking thing...Food,Medical,EBT,SNAP,Baby $$$ ,fuckin LMNOP. Its fvckin pathetic.And middle class mofo's like me that go to work everyday get taxed by the state to keep it rollin,,,,Joke
Same chit in Maine...thats why Maine is one of the 'Death Spiral ' states.
I'm gonna go live on fvckin Gilligans Island with ........................ ........................ ........................ ............Ginger
Sad state of affairs my brothers >:(
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Its like the mofo who got ran over by the SUV....lives a few towns over from me with all the rest of the manipulators.
Family man with 2 kids and a wife......mofo ain't married....thats how they roll in Massachusetts....If they got married they wouldn't get free every fvcking thing...Food,Medical,EBT,SNAP,Baby $$$ ,fuckin LMNOP. Its fvckin pathetic.And middle class mofo's like me that go to work everyday get taxed by the state to keep it rollin,,,,Joke
Same chit in Maine...thats why Maine is one of the 'Death Spiral ' states.
I'm gonna go live on fvckin Gilligans Island with ........................ ........................ ........................ ............Ginger
Sad state of affairs my brothers >:(
It's bad enough Americans supporting Americans...Go to California and it's hundred times worse. Only American's are supporting Mexicans one way or another...
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It's bad enough Americans supporting Americans...Go to California and it's hundred times worse. Only American's are supporting Mexicans one way or another...
And negroes :D
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Then there's this kinda bullshit in Wisconsin where they won't be able to sing Christmas Carols anymore....
http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/faith-and-morals/item/16703-wisconsin-school-district-launches-attack-against-christmas-music (http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/faith-and-morals/item/16703-wisconsin-school-district-launches-attack-against-christmas-music)
In New York....no more playing ball at recess for kids...its too dangerous...if the kids want to do fvuckin cartwheels or play tag it has to be supervised
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/living/parents-middle-school-bans-balls-recess/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 (http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/living/parents-middle-school-bans-balls-recess/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)
Enjoy...I'm out...have to get up in 7 hours to commute so I can pay taxes and feed the leaches.
Thanks for the vent GB
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I pity anybody within 50 miles of an urban area without the ability to lay down suppressive fire. Gonna get ugly out there.
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USA is a failed system.
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USA is a failed system.
Yes. We should all go back to our respective countries of origin, or continent. Leave the USA to rot and get swallowed up by the trees and vegitation.
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It's bad enough Americans supporting Americans...Go to California and it's hundred times worse. Only American's are supporting Mexicans one way or another...
Imagine the problem multiplied by 30 million if amnesty is granted. This country is on the way out. It's inevitable. The system is untenable and will fail.
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Better than raising the debt to a Octodecillion
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This country is on the way out. It's inevitable. The system is untenable and will fail.
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Every Empire Falls.
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Every Empire Falls.
It's clearly a case of suicide.
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I pity anybody within 50 miles of an urban area without the ability to lay down suppressive fire. Gonna get ugly out there.
this ^. people wont take hunger well...not with the American culture they've become accustomed too. The first 24 hours would be a quiet calm as everyone waited for the government to step in. 24-48 hours would be runs on the bank and food stores. 3-4 days and most folks supply of food would be exhausted.
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Every Empire Falls.
Not me clown.
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USA is broke.
Not really. It is like congress is just choosing to not take money out at the ATM. There's plenty of money in the account, the congress just cannot agree on how to spend it.
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If the U.S. is failing then guess my wife and I should move to Germany or some other country that's solvent. Any ideas? Oh wait....the majority of our income is tied to the U.S. economy. Guess we should just kill ourselves now to avoid the impending misery and poverty.
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Not really. It is like congress is just choosing to not take money out at the ATM. There's plenty of money in the account, the congress just cannot agree on how to spend it.
Really? We're not broke? What do you call a 17 trillion dollar debt? What you call 50 trillion in unfunded liabilities? Why did they not let Germany see their own gold when Germany asked for it back? Don't be a fool. That's worthless paper that only has value because the rest of the world uses it as the reserve currency and that time is almost up.
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Really? We're not broke? What do you call a 17 trillion dollar debt? What you call 50 trillion in unfunded liabilities? Why did they not let Germany see their own gold when Germany asked for it back? Don't be a fool. That's worthless paper that only has value because the rest of the world uses it as the reserve currency and that time is almost up.
Your a dooms day kind of guy. I expect this from you, now that I've figured this out.
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PIP Wiggs.
It took someone long enough. I was expecting that in the first couple posts.
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Of course ideally we don't want a bunch of lazy fucks leaching off the system but now is not the time to cut them loose. The job market is already way oversaturated with people looking for work.
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It took someone long enough. I was expecting that in the first couple posts.
Haha I was expecting that too :D
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Of course ideally we don't want a bunch of lazy fucks leaching off the system but now is not the time to cut them loose. The job market is already way oversaturated with people looking for work.
Interesting views.
People are looking for work because, let me guess, they are unemployed or underemployed. If they are lazy fucks, they probably aren't really looking for work because, well, it is hard work looking for work and they are lazy fucks.
-Right, we do not need a bunch of leeches draining our coffers like transients begging by the roadside for handouts, but we have them and they aren't going anywhere soon. Furthermore, they are fertile and they are busy reproducing more of their ilk.
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Your a dooms day kind of guy. I expect this from you, now that I've figured this out.
So you're saying we're not in that debt we're saying?
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So you're saying we're not in that debt we're saying?
We are in debt. There is nothing new in this. In fact we've been in worse debt in the past. Take the period following WWII for example.
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We are in debt. There is nothing new in this. In fact we've been in worse debt in the past. Take the period following WWII for example.
Yeah, our money was backed by gold then. Our money is backed by nothing now. Big difference. I love how you just pass it off by saying we are in debt without acknowledging the dire situation of this. Are you aware that is now a mathematical certainty this economy will collapse? We will never pay this off. It's impossible. Keeping your head in the sand about it and living in la-la land is what got us in the situation. Thank you baby boomers, party on hippies.
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"There are no solutions... there are only trade-offs " - Thomas Sowell
People need to try and understand this.
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Welfare is part and parcel of capitalism, its just being poorly managed by incompetent politicians who use it to buy votes for political gain.
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Welfare has a pacifying effect amongst the poor in a fundamentally capitalist society. It stabilizes capitalism. I see this as its sole purpose. I consider it anti-riot and anti-change money.
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Yeah, our money was backed by gold then. Our money is backed by nothing now. Big difference. I love how you just pass it off by saying we are in debt without acknowledging the dire situation of this. Are you aware that is now a mathematical certainty this economy will collapse? We will never pay this off. It's impossible. Keeping your head in the sand about it and living in la-la land is what got us in the situation. Thank you baby boomers, party on hippies.
I am all ears. Apparently you have some solution as opposed to just blaming baby boomers.
My wife and I am a little old to be baby boomers. This is how I see it: I worked my entire adult life and so did my wife. We lived within our means. We are coasting as old folks by living on our retirement investments. We have no debt. Like usual, we still live within our means. Some of what we don't need to get buy month by month, we give to charity. Our medical cost keep climbing each year. Last year, our out of pocket medical costs exceeded $8,000 which gave us a nice tax deduction. Our income is stagnant while the cost of living keeps going up. I am not complaining yet. We own our home and our cars are in decent working condition. I see no major expenses in the near future....but one never knows.
How about you explain to me how I am somehow responsible for the financial woes of the U.S.?
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I am all ears. Apparently you have some solution as opposed to just blaming baby boomers.
My wife and I am a little old to be baby boomers. This is how I see it: I worked my entire adult life and so did my wife. We lived within our means. We are coasting as old folks by living on our retirement investments. We have no debt. Like usual, we still live within our means. Some of what we don't need to get buy month by month, we give to charity. Our medical cost keep climbing each year. Last year, our out of pocket medical costs exceeded $8,000 which gave us a nice tax deduction. Our income is stagnant while the cost of living keeps going up. I am not complaining yet. We own our home and our cars are in decent working condition. I see no major expenses in the near future....but one never knows.
How about you explain to me how I am somehow responsible for the financial woes of the U.S.?
My solution is to prepare. This shit has been planned well before I and many here were born. I'm not blaming you personally. When we went off the gold standard, people should have done something big. Actually, this all started when the American people accepted the Federal Reserve in 1916 I believe it was. That was the beginning of the end. But every generation since the baby-boomers that we're fooled into believe we were something we never were and dismissed all these "CONSPIRACIES" which the American people are now beginning to see are facts are to blame for brushing them off and not keeping our government in check. The American people were never as smart as they believed they were. We've all been pawns (myself included). So yes, it is all of our faults. Being a good American is more than just what you type. It's keeping your government in check so we don't end up in the situation we are now facing. It can't be done by just a few people it has to be done by a majority of the masses. I'm afraid it's now too late for that.
So, how did we get here? A little at a time. All those little things added up to this. So all those little things people dismissed has come back to bite us in the ass.
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My solution is to prepare. This shit has been planned well before I and many here were born. I'm not blaming you personally. When we went off the gold standard, people should have done something big. Actually, this all started when the American people accepted the Federal Reserve in 1916 I believe it was. That was the beginning of the end. But every generation since the baby-boomers that we're fooled into believe we were something we never were and dismissed all these "CONSPIRACIES" which the American people are now beginning to see are facts are to blame for brushing them off and not keeping our government in check. The American people were never as smart as they believed they were. We've all been pawns (myself included). So yes, it is all of our faults. Being a good American is more than just what you type. It's keeping your government in check so we don't end up in the situation we are now facing. It can't be done by just a few people it has to be done by a majority of the masses. I'm afraid it's now too late for that.
I am a political activist who has worked to help get people elected to office at the state and federal level. I have also lobbied in D.C. and at the state capitol for reforms and support for programs which I believe are important to the future of our country. When my legislators or congress fucks up, I am first to let them know it. Unlike much of the population, I am not idly standing by, saying nothing where it counts for something or just posting on the errant bodybuilding forum about my beliefs.
Tell me now what you are doing to actually effect some change. I really would like to know because it appears to me that all you have is criticism coupled with a complete lack of positive ideas for change.
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Fix America....
1. Close boarders
B. Deport all illegals
3. Make ALL welfare recipients do the jobs the illegals were doing to keep 50% of their benefits
It really is that simple.
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Fix America....
1. Close boarders
B. Deport all illegals
3. Make ALL welfare recipients do the jobs the illegals were doing to keep 50% of their benefits
It really is that simple.
I doubt it is that simple except in your head.
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How much does Mexico owe?
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How much does Mexico owe?
Owe who? Mexico should owe the U.S. DEA a ton of money, since they are the main reason for it's existence.
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Here in the UK the Government are doing their very best to fuck everybody over irrespective of circumstances. Their introduction of the bedroom tax has caused numerous people to commit suicide because they can not afford the payments and can not be relocated to a smaller home, and now they want to cut housing benefit and job seekers allowance for anyone under the age of 25.
Its not a matter of reducing unemployment figures, its the fact there just arent enough jobs to go around. Kids can't sign up to the Army the way they used to because there has been many thousands of redundancies, an not everyone is a highly skilled and time served so they are very limited, and even those with degree qualifications are stuck on the long term unemployed list.
Its not a quick fix, but it sure as hell is a painful one - if anything at all is indeed being fixed.
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garantee its going to be another POSTPONMENT of the debt ceiling will stretch it out another couple months then at that time will be dejavu all over again 'impending government shut down ect ect"
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Yeah, our money was backed by gold then. Our money is backed by nothing now. Big difference. I love how you just pass it off by saying we are in debt without acknowledging the dire situation of this. Are you aware that is now a mathematical certainty this economy will collapse? We will never pay this off. It's impossible. Keeping your head in the sand about it and living in la-la land is what got us in the situation. Thank you baby boomers, party on hippies.
And what are you doing to change any of this? Are you voting for elected positions? It is your civil duty, if you are from America, as you claim.
Are you running for office? Are you lobbying? Are you increasing your wealth working? Are you calling your politicians for change?
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garantee its going to be another POSTPONMENT of the debt ceiling will stretch it out another couple months then at that time will be dejavu all over again 'impending government shut down ect ect"
This is what I think is going to happen also. It's just asinine. Congress should be arrested and held in jail at Alcatraz until they work this shit out. Too bad we cannot fire their butts.
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As a business owner, i'd rather hang myself than hire almost anyone that is sitting at the welfare office. Most of those people will be disruptive at the workplace. No thanks. I'll pay a little more to keep them away from productive society...
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As a business owner, i'd rather hang myself than hire almost anyone that is sitting at the welfare office. Most of those people will be disruptive at the workplace. No thanks. I'll pay a little more to keep them away from productive society...
Imagine if unemployment checks in America were eliminate. Think of how motivated people would be to actually work! Do or die situation at that point...
Crime potentially would increase however...
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Imagine if unemployment checks in America were eliminate. Think of how motivated people would be to actually work! Do or die situation at that point...
Crime potentially would increase however...
Unemployment checks do end eventually. What they unemployed do then? I collected unemployment for about 2 weeks once when I was about 20 years old.
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Unemployment checks do end eventually. What they unemployed do then? I collected unemployment for about 2 weeks once when I was about 20 years old.
True, but an elimination from the start. As a whole.
There are always those who have seasonal jobs who can collect, and apparently legally.
Those would be forced into having a secondary job.
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True, but an elimination from the start. As a whole.
There are always those who have seasonal jobs who can collect, and apparently legally.
Those would be forced into having a secondary job.
In Oregon, classified school employees, folks like school bus drivers, classroom assistants, secretaries and cooks, who only work during the school year are not eligible for unemployment when they are in layoff status. All other workers in this state are eligible for unemployment. This includes itinerant farm workers, folks working in the construction trades and others whose work is generally not of a permanent nature.
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In Oregon, classified school employees, folks like school bus drivers, classroom assistants, secretaries and cooks, who only work during the school year are not eligible for unemployment when they are in layoff status. All other workers in this state are eligible for unemployment. This includes itinerant farm workers, folks working in the construction trades and others whose work is generally not of a permanent nature.
That's more like it should be. Ideally, it should be available for those who get laid off from jobs, not fired due to poor work ethic.
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As a business owner, i'd rather hang myself than hire almost anyone that is sitting at the welfare office. Most of those people will be disruptive at the workplace. No thanks. I'll pay a little more to keep them away from productive society...
exactly i hate hiring people , if you got two people you hire that are buddies and off the street they stay on there cell gossiping to there baby moma about every stupid incidendent in there lifes. just bullshit ontop of more bullshit. in otherwords you are taking a huge gamble with people these days, there is no urgency to get the job done right or done at all
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exactly i hate hiring people , if you got two people you hire that are buddies and off the street they stay on there cell gossiping to there baby moma about every stupid incidendent in there lifes. just bullshit ontop of more bullshit. in otherwords you are taking a huge gamble with people these days, there is no urgency to get the job done right or done at all
Work ethic has gone out the window over time. Plus, whether you own a business, or manage one, one of the most time consuming things if you have those type of employees is following up and making sure that the work either got done, or done correctly.
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Imagine if unemployment checks in America were eliminate. Think of how motivated people would be to actually work! Do or die situation at that point...
Crime potentially would increase however...
Another problem would be that high school and college kids wouldn't be able to find work anymore. And as a society, we would lose a shitload of potential great workers in the end. Kids with too much time on their hands because there are no part time jobs will get in trouble and go down roads they might not have if they were able to stay busy...I say keep the mentally ill(most welfare people) out of the work force...And leave what jobs there may be to people who want to work...
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exactly i hate hiring people , if you got two people you hire that are buddies and off the street they stay on there cell gossiping to there baby moma about every stupid incidendent in there lifes. just bullshit ontop of more bullshit. in otherwords you are taking a huge gamble with people these days, there is no urgency to get the job done right or done at all
people suck.
I had a good friend work for me for years, looked after him despite the fact he wasnt willing to put much effort in was always on his phone on facebook, took a week off if hewas hungover.
I gave him loads of left over building materials for his house and he sold them.
Eventually he left cos he thought the grass was greener elsewere and now works long miserable hours for shit money.
Fuck him
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That's more like it should be. Ideally, it should be available for those who get laid off from jobs, not fired due to poor work ethic.
I don't have much experience with unemployment insurance, but I thought if you got fired with cause you're unemployment claim could be denied or at least delayed. In other words to collect unemployment insurance, you had to be laid off. No doubt folks figure out ways around this.
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Wasnt situation in US getting better? stocks are doing fine.
Take it easy.
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people suck.
I had a good friend work for me for years, looked after him despite the fact he wasnt willing to put much effort in was always on his phone on facebook, took a week off if hewas hungover.
I gave him loads of left over building materials for his house and he sold them.
Eventually he left cos he thought the grass was greener elsewere and now works long miserable hours for shit money.
Fuck him
i wonder if these people had fate-less parents if you know what i mean? this behavior gets absorbed by the child and then the child becomes fate-less and short term thinking, pretty sad reality.
it takes work to be positive, some sweat and some tears, the alternative seems fucking miserable
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i wonder if these people had fate-less parents if you know what i mean? this behavior gets absorbed by the child and then the child becomes fate-less and short term thinking, pretty sad reality.
it takes work to be positive, some sweat and some tears, the alternative seems fucking miserable
Not always does this happen. My parents lived well but were always in debt and saved nothing for their old age. My stepdad died when he was 65 and he was still working up until his death to supplement his SSI, which probably wasn't very much since he underreported his income most of his working years. My mom lived about three years after he died. She was living off the interest of the proceeds from a life insurance policy she had on my dad and SSI. In those days, money market interest rates were 11%. She also moved in with us, so her expenses were nil.
Unlike my parents, I am very cautious about spending money. My wife and I planned carefully for our retirement years. We have no debts. My wife and I were spendthrifts when we were dating, a few periods of hard times taught us a lesson and we changed our ways.
Although I had a lot of material things as a kid, they usually came with some responsibility too. Furthermore, I knew if I got into trouble, I was on my own. My parents made that very clear to me.
It seems to me a lot of folks play the blame game. Nothing is every their fault, it is always someone or something else which is to blame. I'm a control freak. As such blaming others is like giving up control of my own life. I am responsible for what happens to me and I wouldn't want it any other way.
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Not always does this happen. My parents lived well but were always in debt and saved nothing for their old age. My stepdad died when he was 65 and he was still working up until his death to supplement his SSI, which probably wasn't very much since he underreported his income most of his working years. My mom lived about three years after he died. She was living off the interest of the proceeds from a life insurance policy she had on my dad and SSI. In those days, money market interest rates were 11%. She also moved in with us, so her expenses were nil.
Unlike my parents, I am very cautious about spending money. My wife and I planned carefully for our retirement years. We have no debts. My wife and I were spendthrifts when we were dating, a few periods of hard times taught us a lesson and we changed our ways.
Although I had a lot of material things as a kid, they usually came with some responsibility too. Furthermore, I knew if I got into trouble, I was on my own. My parents made that very clear to me.
It seems to me a lot of folks play the blame game. Nothing is every their fault, it is always someone or something else which is to blame. I'm a control freak. As such blaming others is like giving up control of my own life. I am responsible for what happens to me and I wouldn't want it any other way.
money is just too fuckin cool now to people these days. if it gets them money the quickest way possible thats what they do and nothing else matters.
Its not about the adventure of a new job or learning a new skill its what ever half assed way they can maximize there money in the shortest time frame doing bullshit work, stealing, asking parents for money, pawning shit
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money is just too fuckin cool now to people these days. if it gets them money the quickest way possible thats what they do and nothing else matters.
Its not about the adventure of a new job or learning a new skill its what ever half assed way they can maximize there money in the shortest time frame doing bullshit work, stealing, asking parents for money, pawning shit
There is a saying that has been around for years. It reads, "Do what you love and the money will follow." Well, maybe and maybe not. I am not positive the money always follows. On the other hand doing something you hate for 30 years or so really sucks. At least if you do what you love, your enjoying the 8 or more hours everyday you spend doing it. Maybe that is what really counts in the long run.
I know people with great jobs and tons of money who aren't happy. Money doesn't buy happiness. Within reason, if you can make enough money doing something that you enjoy to support yourself and your family, that should be pretty rewarding. Unfortunately, a lot of folks believe they can't be happy without all the latest gadgets, a too big house and a too expensive car. That's just bullshit!
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In those days, money market interest rates were 11%.
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