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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Uncle Junior on February 11, 2014, 01:25:16 PM
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10g Glutamine !
Real men don't eat.
Food is evil.
"Nothing is so bad that not eating won't cure"
"Lose everything and what is real will still remain."
"Nothing taste as good as skinny feels"
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::)
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I like the cut of your jib.
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172lb now.
1.5 inch lost on shoulders (now 48.5 was 50)
1 inch lost on chest (43 now was 44)
0.8 lost on waist, now 31.2 (was 32)
0.7 lost on arms now 15.3 (was 16)
1.5 inch lost on legs now 24, (was 25.5) Yayyyyy so happy about this one.
Only 18lb more to lose, I want 154lb.
600 calories daily now, don't really think I can go lower.
Just wanna sleep all the time.
who is giving you advice on eating 600 calories a day?
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Why glutamine? I know what you're trying to do, but I think EAAs or a whey isolate would yield better results for you
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"Nothing taste as good as skinny feels"
I don`t know, bbq potato chips are pretty fukn delicious.
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This is getbig not getskinny you fucking anorexic queer.
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Sorry. No name Glutamine just doesn't work. Should have gotten some Muscletech or something.
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primo works better
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172lb now.
1.5 inch lost on shoulders (now 48.5 was 50)
1 inch lost on chest (43 now was 44)
0.8 lost on waist, now 31.2 (was 32)
0.7 lost on arms now 15.3 (was 16)
1.5 inch lost on legs now 24, (was 25.5) Yayyyyy so happy about this one.
Only 18lb more to lose, I want 154lb.
600 calories daily now, don't really think I can go lower.
Just wanna sleep all the time.
I measure my arms, etc every week hoping they have grown, interesting to see someone else do the exact opposite.
You are shooting for 154lbs when you get there is that when you will starting juicing?
Showing good determination and will power buddy.
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Me!
I know what works, did this shit when I was 253
::)
you obviously are mistaking the Auschwitz diet plan for weightloss with propper dieting to get into shape..
I also think you MUST have MPD
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10g Glutamine !
Real men don't eat.
Real men don't post in a purple font, suffer from body dysmorphia and tell others about ad nauseam.
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What's MPD mean?
multiple personality disorder ... you have more than one personality in your mind, I am not trying to be funny. Like shizzo, I do not think getbig is a good idea for you
look at your journey here, you are all over the place .. your trying to get ripped thing is so bizzare and makes zero sense whatsoever
you ask for advice but claim to actually do the dumbest things .. and no, I do not believe you eat 600 cals a day .. in a few short days you'd be eating everything in sight
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10g Glutamine !
Real men don't eat.
Food is evil.
"Nothing is so bad that not eating won't cure"
"Lose everything and what is real will still remain."
"Nothing taste as good as skinny feels"
take some cutting steroids and eat some clean foods and stop killing yourself.
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Refeed once every 14 days where 7,000 calories will be approximately consumed followed by 48 hour water fast.
This diet made me lose 80lbs in 7 months, so hardly think losing a shitty 18lb's is gonna be that tough for me.
I am expert lose weight fast expert.
I think only God knows what the hell is up with you man ..
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multiple personality disorder ... you have more than one personality in your mind, I am not trying to be funny. Like shizzo, I do not think getbig is a good idea for you
look at your journey here, you are all over the place .. your trying to get ripped thing is so bizzare and makes zero sense whatsoever
you ask for advice but claim to actually do the dumbest things .. and no, I do not believe you eat 600 cals a day .. in a few short days you'd be eating everything in sight
The funny thing is that you actually believe him. You must have shitty visions.
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I got into this thing with a death wish, anytime will do, will die trying or it shall be a glorious death.
This is for my babydoll.
(http://www.chinabuddhismencyclopedia.com/en/images/b/bf/Sokushinbutsu.jpg)
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I don`t know, bbq potato chips are pretty fukn delicious.
Yum, they're my favorite. What about a chocolate lava cake with vanilla ice cream. Super delicious! lol
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Yum, they're my favorite. What about a chocolate lava cake with vanilla ice cream. Super delicious! lol
no carbs are welcome in this thread.
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Uncle Junior, how tall are you? To be 154, thats a very low weight. (Sorry if I missed it earlier).
Are you going to compete? Why kill yourself to get that low?
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Since it's you and I like you I forgive you.
Lol thanks! I was trying to turn the thread into a "yummiest foods" thread lol jk
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you lost as much off your arms as you did off your waist? And 2 x as much off your legs?
either you have very unfortunate fat distribution patterns or you're losing glycogen or worse still muscle.
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who is giving you advice on eating 600 calories a day?
Someone that has a helluva mean sense of humor, thats for sure.
He's an even bigger idiot for actually doing it.
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This is getbig not getskinny you fucking anorexic queer.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA. :D :D
PREACH MAH BROTHER :D!!!
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What does your mum say when you don't come downstairs for dinner?
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Nooooooooo MMA for now.
can't even walk up flight of stairs without head rush.
80g protein, 30g fats, no carbs.
Craze only thing that keeps me going and smoking 20 a day now.
im all for trolling
but posting stuff like this just makes you look like an attention seeking clown
if this post is genuine get some help
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Since I got lot of love for you bigmc and since you London lad I will tell you truth:
Gods honest truth that's diet I am doing at the moment and its fucking brutal.
Yes I am being an attention seeking whore (especially when I am dieting I go cuckeroo) but really you guys give me motivation to carry one so I feed of that.
Try and make sure you dont overface yourself.
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What does "overface" mean? Don't get it.
If you go to an 'all you can eat' buffet and pile up so much food that you cant eat it all, you have 'overfaced' yourself.
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You need psychological help in a professional way. I won't even comment on your "dieting" or bizzare rants about drugs, training etc..serious post
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10000 people will tell Junior that he's hurting himself but yet he will still be convinced he's right. ::)
Someone worded it perfectly.....why the fuck are you on Getbig if you want to Getskinny. ::)
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10000 people will tell Junior that he's hurting himself but yet he will still be convinced he's right. ::)
Someone worded it perfectly.....why the fuck are you on Getbig if you want to Getskinny. ::)
I think he may be here for the conversation.
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I don't think I am that bad to need psychological help, maybe few years back but not now.
Serious point by doctor said I have "body dysmorphia" but I think he is full of shit.
Truth is I always see myself as "the fat guy" from my obese days and ALWAYS scared to get fat.
I go on scale about 6 times a day and don't drink water sometimes at night cos I know when I weigh myself in the morning I don't want weight to go up.
Scale is the only thing I have control over really.
Also my x fiance was severely bulimic, she had a big influence on my head etc.
Seriously......read these fucking sentences. Do you really not see a problem????
You are listening to a bulimic over a doctor? Really? REALLY?????
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172lb now.
1.5 inch lost on shoulders (now 48.5 was 50)
1 inch lost on chest (43 now was 44)
0.8 lost on waist, now 31.2 (was 32)
0.7 lost on arms now 15.3 (was 16)
1.5 inch lost on legs now 24, (was 25.5) Yayyyyy so happy about this one.
Only 18lb more to lose, I want 154lb.
600 calories daily now, don't really think I can go lower.
Just wanna sleep all the time.
So you're barely eating so you can go from "really skinny" to "really, really skinny"?
Sounds awesome chief.
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I think he may be here for the conversation.
He's here because it was his destiny to meet me.
However the rest of his nonsensical babble is just plain loony and making me growly.
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Oh by the way bro I know this is gonna sound gay BUT I was working shoulders and legs today and totally thought about something you said in my workout, like I ACTUALLY thought about you in my workout. (so gay I know haha)
I was doing rear delt's raises and I realized I was cheating too much.
So I made the weight lighter, kept my elbows TOTALLY straight and pointed out my wrists (usually I point them in, this 1/4 inch was the absolute key difference) and suddenly all the tension was on my rear delts all the time and WAS FUCKING BRUTAL AGONY BURN......
...Like doing them YOUR WAY, I struggled to do 9 reps with 8 kilo dumbbells.
So thanks for that got to give credit where its due.
There is something terribly wrong with you, trust me. Or don't.. you don't seem to care for what others observe in you. You make shizzo look balanced.
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Why all the q-tips?
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Stop crying for attention Junior...it's unbecoming.
We are all tired of hearing "I'm obese".
You know you are not....we know you are not....so what's the fucking point of rehashing your same melodramatic shit anymore.
Honestly.....and I'm being honest.....you're at the point where you are looking almost too lean.
You want to lose 15 more pounds....5 more should be the max if that.
You don't have enough muscle to look good as lean as you wish.
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Since I got lot of love for you bigmc and since you London lad I will tell you truth:
Gods honest truth that's diet I am doing at the moment and its fucking brutal.
Yes I am being an attention seeking whore (especially when I am dieting I go cuckeroo) but really you guys give me motivation to carry one so I feed of that.
all you are doing is fucking your metabolism up
cut slowly mate im serious
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Your a chick you are not qualified to comment, the only guy right now on this thread who is qualified to comment is probably Seb or Man of Steel and both of them will tell you I am fat a fuck and obese right now, don't believe me just ask them.
Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
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all you are doing is fucking your metabolism up
cut slowly mate im serious
Part of me hopes he does.
With that attitude he doesn't deserve the good health he has.
People that actually care more about their physical appearance are suffering in hospitals and Junior hits the genetic lottery with good health. >:(
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Uncle Junior choosing to stay in the loft room, when he supposedly has the run of a massive detatched home in Finchley is this thread ::)
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Why you being mean again what did I do wrong this time?
you come here and ask for advice .. which is ok .. plenty of people give it to you .. you come back doing everything that makes as little sense as possible .. people tell you it's not ok .. you tell them that they have no clue and you know your body bla bla .. and repeat this ad nauseam
Personally, I don't think you should gamble, diet, touch roids or be allowed in the gym more than an hour daily. You need BALANCE. I am not sure what kind of explanation you expect .. in my mind I see you running blindfolded towards the edge and feel it's my duty to pull the blindfold and show you were you're heading. Then pull it back and off you go.
I do know what is "wrong" with you or happening with you but this is not the place and it's not my business anyway. You are triggered severly and your "dieting" is self abuse, low self worth and self punishment. Make what you will of it but I am not demeaning you, just telling you my opinion.
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Junior you aren't fat my friend. No, you are not bodybuilder shredded but certainly not fat. I personally think you should jump on a low dose of test, hit the weights hard as possible and eat relatively clean. Do cardio as well if you have the time and energy but this will recomp your physique and I am postive you will look great.
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Why you give a shit about me so much anyway, you rejected me in front of whole Get Big and made me out to be some pyscho after you told me bunch of nice things and lead me on.
Just don't be giving advice to anyone else.....if they're naïve they will listen and hurt themselves.
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Another thing I don't get Cyp is why you acting all fucking horrible with me, and one day you say like yeah I would be kinda guy you would go have a pint with and shoot some pool next day you are calling me a fag and shit?? ::)
I never said one bad word about you once.
I know am a Gooner but still mate I got plenty of friends who support Tottenham, we have a bit of banter but never end up killing each other.
Why u hate me so much?
Glutamine induced meltdown.
Only messing with you mate, as I said I'd happily grab a couple of bottle of peroni with you and watch a game anytime!
This is getbig, try not to involve the bleeding of vagina when posting :D
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Probably lot of truth in what you say, but I can't help it, I am being serious, too much history, I need go gym long time cos it makes me normal (nothing to do with like aesthetics/optimal training etc) more time spent in gym means less time thinking about, craving, having feelings about other shit that can really fuck me up, like going Camden and getting baggie etc
Did it hurt the first time you went Camden and got baggie
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Thanks Rascal you are star my friend.
Gonna juice soon
No you're not. ::)
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oh brother, 600cals is harsh harsh.
this will long term do away with some muscle for sure.
comeone at least keep the metabolism somewhere at 1000-1500cals ballpark.
and do some steroids or there wont be much left off of you.
the rebound will be furious,lol.
as pthers said youre not even fat, youre lean enough.as in starting gear +4 weeks diet on 1000-1500 with no or little cardio and youre shredded.
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The human body is not designed to live on 600 cals daily..hell, even 12-1300 is too little. On top of that you are working out too much. Your adrenals are shot from all the stimulants and the low cals plus stimulants are frying your nervous system destroying the mielin. You are triggered ... this means that certain nerve centers/glands are opened up energetically (overdrive) while some shut down creating major imbalance. Like that is not enough, you fuck it up even more with your so called diet.
Truth is, you look good and can definetly look better. You need moderate exercize and healthy organic balanced eating. At most some cofee in the morning, no stimulants, no supplements and definetly no hormones. This way, your body will regulate itself because your mind is finding balance ..
.. the "seat" of your consciousness, in your case your "mind", is the pineal gland. In almost everyone is dormant and sometimes partially calcified. It is the bridge between your inner world and your outter world or physical life. It acts as an universal translator and balances the left and right brain. When you are not all here and are "somewhere else" your right brain thinking dominates. When you are overly physical in any sense, your left is the predominant one. You need to balance at and with the pineal.
When you learn to control your own thoughts. AT the pineal, the thought form projections generate electro-magnetic waves or a field in and around you. That's why "science" can measure "brain activity". The electrom-magnetic projection of your thought form at the pineal, tickles or stimulates the anterior pituitary which does it's job to regulate and balance the rest of the glandular system and several physiological processes in turn. So the key to balance one's body is to balance the thinking AT the pineal and thus use the pineal consciously .. take conscious control of your thinking, etc.
This is not about babes or bodybuilding, it is about what YOU need first. Once you find some balance obviously your ideas about dieting, motive and purpose, will change.. as well as even your own perception of yourself.
Dr Philastase out ;D
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The human body is not designed to live on 600 cals daily..hell, even 12-1300 is too little. On top of that you are working out too much. Your adrenals are shot from all the stimulants and the low cals plus stimulants are frying your nervous system destroying the mielin. You are triggered ... this means that certain nerve centers/glands are opened up energetically (overdrive) while some shut down creating major imbalance. Like that is not enough, you fuck it up even more with your so called diet.
Truth is, you look good and can definetly look better. You need moderate exercize and healthy organic balanced eating. At most some cofee in the morning, no stimulants, no supplements and definetly no hormones. This way, your body will regulate itself because your mind is finding balance ..
.. the "seat" of your consciousness, in your case your "mind", is the pineal gland. In almost everyone is dormant and sometimes partially calcified. It is the bridge between your inner world and your outter world or physical life. It acts as an universal translator and balances the left and right brain. When you are not all here and are "somewhere else" your right brain thinking dominates. When you are overly physical in any sense, your left is the predominant one. You need to balance at and with the pineal.
When you learn to control your own thoughts. AT the pineal, the thought form projections generate electro-magnetic waves or a field in and around you. That's why "science" can measure "brain activity". The electrom-magnetic projection of your thought form at the pineal, tickles or stimulates the anterior pituitary which does it's job to regulate and balance the rest of the glandular system and several physiological processes in turn. So the key to balance one's body is to balance the thinking AT the pineal and thus use the pineal consciously .. take conscious control of your thinking, etc.
This is not about babes or bodybuilding, it is about what YOU need first. Once you find some balance obviously your ideas about dieting, motive and purpose, will change.. as well as even your own perception of yourself.
Dr Philastase out ;D
Nice. :D
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Sad fucking thing is you induced all this Slut cos I was sure u didn't want me cos I got shit body and fat.
The sad fucking thing is I want you less than ever now.
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sev, 600cals a day can be ok for obese ppl with diabetes 2type anf fatty liver.
this diet he does is exactly what some docs put such clients on.
however its bit low side for ppl who lift ofc, and hes shredded if compared to the general peasantery.
1200-1500 is fine for a while, esp with a reloading here and then and on gear.
@junior, well ibiza, if you live on 600cals a day youll look like dj120 till ibiza,or be dead or something lol.
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The sad fucking thing is I want you less than ever now.
Why are you two so mean to each other? If there is attraction, explore it.
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Why are you two so mean to each other? If there is attraction, explore it.
This isn't the little boy pulling my pigtails on the playground. >:(
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what the fuck so that implies you did want me at some stage before???
You made me out to look like such a jerk when you knew...
ahh fuck it, nevermind.
Actually it was YOU who mad you look like such a jerk.
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sev, 600cals a day can be ok for obese ppl with diabetes 2type anf fatty liver.
this diet he does is exactly what some docs put such clients on.
however its bit low side for ppl who lift ofc, and hes shredded if compared to the general peasantery.
1200-1500 is fine for a while, esp with a reloading here and then and on gear.
@junior, well ibiza, if you live on 600cals a day youll look like dj120 till ibiza,or be dead or something lol.
I disagree. It is NOT healthy.
I was a programmed person in secret mind control experiments bla bla fucking bla .. when I started interacting with other people who lived through programming, I did notice a "trend". the very very low calorie diets or eating artificially induced at fist...400-800 cals a day. Not by accident, nazi concentration camps had the same amount of calories becasue they were massive mind control experiments.
This has zero to do with bodybuilding. When you deal with a specifically programmed person, throw out of the window the science books because their mind works differently and their body implicitly.
So when I spot the obviously familiar, I will call it out. But people think I am nuts. But I am not ;D
Also, those specific people use sugars to regulate the blood sugar and cigarettes to ground. They are all very addictive personalities and are considered "weird" by the general population. However, when you understand all this mess, nothing is weird. Everything has a very logical scientific explanation.
So I would never advocate going under a certain number of calories. I believe in healthy eating and slight manipulations to get a desired look.
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I don't know man I think dj120 looks good in his new pictures (if real), I never knew him or seen his before pics etc
Oh yeah and when I was huge fat fuck 600 calories was exactly the diet my doctor put me on.
So by your type of logic you should now be on about 200 calories.
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So I have enough time hopefully to get shredded for Ibizia cos I will too embarrassed to go otherwise looking like shit.
Don't be embarassed, I'll pull the chicks in Ibiza with my amazing physique, then when we're back in my hotel room i'll turn the lights off and you can sneak in and pretend to be me in the dark.
This service comes with a fee.
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You knew I would have literally done anything for you.
And now?????
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Sev breaking down the benefits of tickling the prostate gland in this thread
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Don't be embarassed, I'll pull the chicks in Ibiza with my amazing physique, then when we're back in my hotel room i'll turn the lights off and you can sneak in and pretend to be me in the dark.
This service comes with a fee.
You think they won't notice a pile of bones against their body???
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Actually it was YOU who mad you look like such a jerk.
Bikini I think you actually have a soft spot for Uncle J. He's a great character on here, entertaining, you must enjoy his posts?
Be nice to him, you have the power to motivate and enrich this man life!..
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You are 100% correct about the smoking thing, my fucking smoking has gone through the ROOF, normally I would smoke maybe 5 ciggys a day, ever since diet now I smoking 15 easy, like smoking is like food for me now, seriously.
Kissing a smoker is so great. It's such a turn on.
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BS is definitely intrigued and interested in Attic boy (just kidding there UJ) but he goes loony intense and angry at the worst moments..
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You knew I would have literally done anything for you.
Wait, you're in in another country, had PMs with BS, and that was where you landed? You expect us to believe all this?
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Wait, you're in in another country, had PMs with BS, and that was where you landed? You expect us to believe all this?
Will Grant and booty had four breakups and involved law enforcement when they split for good - without ever meeting each other!
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It will take Uncle another 2 years at least to get the look of these members he so wants to look like....Gal, Skorp1o, etc........
So yes UJ....you may as well not go because you WILL be out of place. Bodybuilders and anorexic looking men just don't usually mesh.
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Will Grant and booty had four breakups and involved law enforcement when they split for good - without ever meeting each other!
Haha......seriously???? :D
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Haha......seriously???? :D
Yep, it's all on the mega thread.
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Wait, you're in in another country, had PMs with BS, and that was where you landed? You expect us to believe all this?
Not one thing I said in those PM's lead him on.
I just want to reiterate that. UJ has half this board convinced I was playing a "game" with his heart.
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You think they won't notice a pile of bones against their body???
They should only touch one bone
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Yep, it's all on the mega thread.
Junior and I are way behind.
I haven't even had a chance to get him my phone number or place of employment so the stalking process can begin. :-\
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Seriously though bro, imagine if I come, you gal and everyone else looking like demi full blown gods and I am gonna be so out of place cramping style.
Corrected ;D
On a serious note, you need to come off this sh£t immediately and do 500mg test and 50mg dbol for 8 weeks straight with good solid diet not too clean, then switch to 250mg sust 300mg tren and 50mg winny with carb cycling low fat to get that lean not too Sted-head/meathead look.
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clearly you still are playing with me with all these mixed signals but that's ok I am used to it (story of my life), what I don't get is why you can't leave me to starve in peace.
Because sadly and pathetically I'm wildly intrigued by you. :-\
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Wow, holy shit Sev dropping major science.
-So I should drop Craze (shame cos it makes me lose so much weight)
- Up calories to like 1300 ish
-Reduce workouts to like an hour a day
- Not sure how I can control my "thoughts" at Pineal gland, like how you do that?
....also why can't I take steroids, u do it so why I can't?
Even coffee will open up your mind so to speak. But you'll go insane cutting everything.
you can eat 1500 relaxed
working out harder will NOT grow muscles and doing more cardio will NOT burn fat any faster .. the slower the better
The pineal gland is your universal translator and links your superconsciousness to your subcosnciousness and your consciousness.
Super is right brain, conscious is left and the pineal is simbolic for the subconscious. It translates the world of thought to your left brain using a language that your left brain understands, is used to and can relate to. It uses images from your day to day life which it overlaps symbolically over your thoughts thus creating scenarios. We call this IMAGEination. With specifically created protocols for imagining or visualizing, you slowly learn to explore, understand and know yourself. YOU control your own thoughts not live at the mercy of them.
Trauma that comes up or opens up and raises to the surface in an uncontrolled manner, creates major emotional waves at the pineal. So people call this "stress, panic attacks, bad feelings, anger etc etc). To know yourself and learn to control yourself is the conscious process of exploring your own mind where thoughts sleep in latent state and that sometimes, are triggered to the surface making things unbearable. So one needs to find out the cause, which is always within. In the outer wold there are only triggers .. the cause is always within. So instead of punching the mirror we should look into it then look into US to balance, heal or eliminate the actual cause of what we go through.
One can justify wearing a g-string and showing his bare ass to the world by pursuing art, or can look deep within to find the actual cause to seek admiration from other males while naked from the rear while wearing a female piece of garment.
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or just fuck it, eat a burger and get drunk on skype with bikini slut .. masturbate furiously until both of you get cramps and are sweaty, then light up a cigarette and post less .. this way we don't turn this place into an insane asylum for lost souls like wolfcocks, shitso, ukjeff or dick jockey 118
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Weird thing is I totally understand what you are saying, I really do believe in visualization etc, I used it extensively when playing poker, it helped my game tremendously, although never applied those principles to working out.
Interesting stuff Sev, poker and bodybuilding got a lot in common weirdly enough.
yes, both have an ACE that's paper thin ;D
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I am not fucking skinny I am fucking fat (obese in bodybuilding terms), seriously if you can't see how fat I am in this pic either you are NUTS or I am fucking demented.
I lost 14 lbs in just over 2 weeks and I'm 169lb now and I GOT to get down to 154 lb to be normal weight according to BMI chart.
I am not SKINNY, I am FAT, get this into your head people.
What pic LOL?
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Uncle Junior knows absoulutely jackshit about eating while trying to lose fat, and build or retain muscle.
Wasting away will surely make your body look great Joon...good luck with that!
::)
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Top of the head to chin ratio is fucked up in that pic.
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Listen bro I don't care about losing muscle cos whole idea/plan is to get down to 154lb (I am 169 now) so only like 15lbs away....yeah I will end up skinny but so what...
COS then after I hit 154lb, I am gonna shoot 250mg Test a week and take 20mg real Anavar and I will blow the fuck back up to 180lb.
That's the whole point of this dumass exercise.
Makes no sense at all IMO,but carry on homie!
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Listen bro I don't care about losing muscle cos whole idea/plan is to get down to 154lb (I am 169 now) so only like 15lbs away....yeah I will end up skinny but so what...
COS then after I hit 154lb, I am gonna shoot 250mg Test a week and take 20mg real Anavar and I will blow the fuck back up to 180lb.
That's the whole point of this dumass exercise.
Sevaste bodybuilding principles right there, take note how he looks year round. ;)
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whats with all the aftershave?
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No chance bro, he's a wackjob who will keep it on his hard drive in case he needs it in 10 years in a thread ::)
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No chance bro, he's a wackjob who will keep it on his hard drive in case he needs it in 10 years in a thread ::)
Done. ;)
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uncle junior is wired on craze which is basically legal speed
when he comes off this he will be so tired he wont be able to do anything
his metabolism will drop off the edge of the cliff
so when he starts eating normally he will regain more fat than he lost
he will then be caught in an endless cycle of yo yo dieting
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uncle junior is wired on craze which is basically legal speed
when he comes off this he will be so tired he wont be able to do anything
his metabolism will drop off the edge of the cliff
so when he starts eating normally he will regain more fat than he lost
he will then be caught in an endless cycle of yo yo dieting
spot on .. a former addict sipping on craze non stop .. knowing what Craze is, you don't need to be a genius to figure it out
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Not gonna lie I got to stop that shit building up tolerance now, keeping going up and up a little bit every time.
Brutal head rushes.
come off it im serious
your thought process will start to suffer
you wont sleep properly
yes you will lose weight but you will be fucked
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come off it im serious
your thought process will start to suffer
you wont sleep properly
yes you will lose weight but you will be fucked
We've seen this from his last 200 posts.
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Cos I can't be over 180lb, if I started juicing at 180lb I would end up 200lb which is NOT what I want
WRONG
If you eat right,you can weigh far less and be ripped to shreds,even if you start today.
It`s not like you are obese for Christs sake!!
I told myself to ignore this thread now I`m pissed at myself for being so fucking stupid! :(
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Yeah I know, I was taking Craze 3 months non stop over summer every day and was doing higher doses (I got high tolerance to stims generally) when I came off I literally didn't want to go gym anymore, like massive comedown for like 2 months.
But still it got me pretty jacked combined with low carb diet and Arimidex.
Got to get into that condition again for summer.
i used to eat ephedra like smarties
i crashed bad when i came off that
but you normalise and get used to training without being wired
the body has a great ability to stabilise when you come off something
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We've seen this from his last 200 posts.
:D
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I am obese compared to like 98% of people on here, I probably have the second worst physique on here after Shizzo (no disrespect Shizzo I know u ain't training right now etc).
Maybe I won't be anal and start juicing soon if you promise me I won't get fat and I won't go over 180lb.
Golden rule is come rain or shine I can't be over 180lb and I prefer 170lb actually.
You keep disregarding the obvious question and issue and play stupid or your mind simply is unnable to grasp a simple concept. Everybody is telling you the same thing: you are fucking nuts. When are you going to realize it yourself?
You stir shit up and drama because it feeds you .. if people would ignore you you'd become suicidal (God forbid)
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Oh by the way Driven Sports launching new pre workout soon called "Frenzy" the sent some samples out and people who tried it saying its stronger than Craze, can't fucking wait, Matt Cahill is a fucking genius.
http://www.predatornutrition.com/en/brand/driven-sports/frenzy-325g-coming-soon/
ok now i know you are trolling
well played
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I can see the daily mail headline about rich kid from Finchley found dead in the loft from not sleeping for 5 days straight on Craze, and then quoting some of his posts from here in the article ;D ;D ;D
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what's "the obvious question/issue", seriously not sure what you mean?
exactly
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Yeah I know, thing is on Craze you can literally do 3 hour workouts and take 30 seconds rest, one exercise after another, bam bam bam and the your like what to train next hmmmm....lmao
Like i was so fucking wired this morning doing legs, like zero energy right and after I take the Craze Bam I hit the 400lb squat for 4 reps, so impressed i did that with no food in me.
I was going loony, was like talking to myself psyching myself up saying "fuck this, this ain't shit, this ain't shit"
Then you come down and your like WTF just happend. lol
Fuck, I need to get some Craze!
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I agree with uncle joon. Abs mean everything. Doen't matter if you weigh 150 pounds.
I know from experience that abs get the girls. You can't be butt ugly though, so guys like Sev and Galeniko are shit out of luck :-\
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I agree with uncle joon. Abs mean everything. Doen't matter if you weigh 150 pounds.
I know from experience that abs get the girls.You can't be butt ugly though, so guys like Sev and Galeniko are shit out of luck :-\
share stories of these awesome experiences.
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share stories of these awesome experiences.
;D
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Poor bastard, posting on GB has done his head in.. Won't make it to 2015 at this rate.
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share stories of these awesome experiences.
I can't. Wiki seems to be down right now :-X
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Junior is right, a 5'11 guy at 154 and 10% will find it a million times easier to get pussy than the same guy at 174 at 20%, largely due to the women's subconscious noticing of all the good things about a guys face at low bodyfat.What is called skinny on Getbig is called normal in real life, he'll be the weight of the average premier league player, some of the most worshipped people in the country.He can focus on adding muscle in Winter.
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I agree with uncle joon. Abs mean everything. Doen't matter if you weigh 150 pounds.
I know from experience that abs get the girls. You can't be butt ugly though, so guys like Sev and Galeniko are shit out of luck :-\
I think he means Anti-lock braking systems.
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im just saying the galeniko diet method is the absolute bar eminimum one should go.and that with no cardio.
any lower i dont see how it can be good.
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im just saying the galeniko diet method is the absolute bar eminimum one should go.and that with no cardio.
any lower i dont see how it can be good.
Where did that get you champ? :-\
People should be asking for a refund.
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Where did that get you champ? :-\
People should be asking for a refund.
You have no idea
Shut the fuck up.
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You have no idea
Shut the fuck up.
This isn't UKJeff. U mad bro?
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Exactly This.
But what makes it even worse for me is that I am 5.9 and a half.
Still no one want to tell me what fucking body fat I am right now???
I got myself at 20% but I bet if I went into a Bod Pod thing it would say I am 27% or something probably. :-\
So lets get straight about the stats.......... You are 5'9. Whats your current weight? 160 something? And you are still at 20+% bodyfat?
There is no hope for you. Try to be a rich, gay guy's bottom.
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Exactly This.
But what makes it even worse for me is that I am 5.9 and a half.
Still no one want to tell me what fucking body fat I am right now???
I got myself at 20% but I bet if I went into a Bod Pod thing it would say I am 27% or something probably. :-\
You are fat man, however Bikini slut likes a little fat on her men I understand.
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Where did that get you champ? :-\
People should be asking for a refund.
fuck you dick weed
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fuck you dick weed
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take another pic on your cell bro
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I am 5.9 and a half currently 169lb trying to get down to 154lb.
I have no idea what body fat I am, this is what I am trying to figure out.
I think I must be around 20% based on those fat pic percentages comparison things I have seen.
Basically I totally agree with you that I am obese and people just being nice trying to tell me I am not fat etc.
I know I need to lose at least 15 more lb or I think I will join you in starting drinking again.
This is truth.
you are nowhere near 20% dont listen to that clown shizzo he never set foot in a gym in his life
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I am 5.9 and a half currently 169lb trying to get down to 154lb.
I have no idea what body fat I am, this is what I am trying to figure out.
I think I must be around 20% based on those fat pic percentages comparison things I have seen.
Basically I totally agree with you that I am obese and people just being nice trying to tell me I am not fat etc.
I know I need to lose at least 15 more lb or I think I will join you in starting drinking again.
This is truth.
Junior that is ridiculous to call yourself obese! You are probably around 18-20 percent fat judging from my own experience. That isn't a bad ratio at all and you shouldn't beat yourself up over it. Excuse me for saying but I think because you lost a lot of weight previously you now have a complex about it. You don't need to, relax, keeping training and all will be good.
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take another pic on your cell bro
Why? You trying to go after my family bro? I thought you were against that?
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Shizzo I know you are a straight shooter and won't lie to me and got good eye for these things, how much body fat its this?
20% or more like 25% ish?
I just wanna make sure if I need to go lower than 154lb or is 154lb ok do you think?
You look 16% there. You need to start juicing and lifting like a man. Keep a clean diet of around 1,500 calories. Heavy compound movements are key. Have a cheat day once a week.
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seriously dude, WTF is wrong with your head on that first pic, have you shopped the pic?
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seriously dude, WTF is wrong with your head on that first pic, have you shopped the pic?
maybe cone heads was real :o
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I think I must have metabolic condition or something, I just don't understand how the fuck I can eat 600 calories and still be fucking 20-25% body fat at 169lb with fucking 31.5 inch waist.
This is beyond fucking ridiculous and frustrating.
I think I might have to add T3 or something soon.
No fucking way I am gonna be ready for Ibizia.
I wish people would stop bullshiting me and just tell me truth so I know what to work on and just set my expectations right.
I don't need people to be fucking nice to me just to make me feel good etc.
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16% my ass more like 22% at best
if you ever take one piece of advice from me take this
shizzo knows less than fucak all about anything other than being drunk
and fucking up every thread with his shit
look at his latest pic he claims he is big and in shape
is that really the type of person you want to listen to
really?
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So what BF I am in the pic in the mirror, that was about 3 days ago????????
ask gal or simple simon
or even better disgusted
i would guess about 15 percent
but those guys know better
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Shizzo I know you are a straight shooter and won't lie to me and got good eye for these things, how much body fat its this?
20% or more like 25% ish?
I just wanna make sure if I need to go lower than 154lb or is 154lb ok do you think?
16-18%, no higher
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16%.... exactly what I said. Bigmc can eat a dick. I know bodybuilding.
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So what BF I am in the pic in the mirror, that was about 3 days ago????????
It doesnt matter, you are not where you want to be, a number is irrelevant, just use your mirror.
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No man no shop just scribbled out my face, just cos the camera angle looking up at me at angle.
I think cos I lost muscle it makes me look fatter.
I don't fucking understand, I mean I look better in this pic but here I was actually fater and was like 180lb I think.
Its a joke.
My life sucks.
muscles are just flat from lack of carbs, causing the illusion of being fatter.
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Si just tell me the fucking number please.
Thanks
if you got measured and it said 7% would you be happy looking like you look now?
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For fuck's sake stop winding me up and tell me truthfully what you think in terms of a NUMBER!
Seriously bro just tell me.
I have no idea, I dont have a DEXA scanner plugged into my PC.
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you lost as much off your arms as you did off your waist? And 2 x as much off your legs?
either you have very unfortunate fat distribution patterns or you're losing glycogen or worse still muscle.
nah i think so far its only glycogen depletion, but if caries on with 600cals naturaly and overdoing cardio, everything will melt right away.
however i dont think anyone can do this for long without gastro thing operation.
i only know of 1 guy who did this for 6 months.but on gear.
brutality is one thing in a diet, but one most inportant factor is patience and keping calm.
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I disagree. It is NOT healthy.
I was a programmed person in secret mind control experiments bla bla fucking bla .. when I started interacting with other people who lived through programming, I did notice a "trend". the very very low calorie diets or eating artificially induced at fist...400-800 cals a day. Not by accident, nazi concentration camps had the same amount of calories becasue they were massive mind control experiments.
This has zero to do with bodybuilding. When you deal with a specifically programmed person, throw out of the window the science books because their mind works differently and their body implicitly.
So when I spot the obviously familiar, I will call it out. But people think I am nuts. But I am not ;D
Also, those specific people use sugars to regulate the blood sugar and cigarettes to ground. They are all very addictive personalities and are considered "weird" by the general population. However, when you understand all this mess, nothing is weird. Everything has a very logical scientific explanation.
So I would never advocate going under a certain number of calories. I believe in healthy eating and slight manipulations to get a desired look.
well i never said its the healthiest way to live.
i said 1200cals is ok for a while,and depending on bodyfat levels.
im talking about bbuilding fatloss perspective.bbuilding is probably the most unhealhty sport, even natural.
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Don't be embarassed, I'll pull the chicks in Ibiza with my amazing physique, then when we're back in my hotel room i'll turn the lights off and you can sneak in and pretend to be me in the dark.
This service comes with a fee.
same here, when they nconcious drunk and on xtc and whatnot, i just introduce my frends.
next day she will feel as if half the island knocked her up, she shall be shitting semen for 5days non stop ;D
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It will take Uncle another 2 years at least to get the look of these members he so wants to look like....Gal, Skorp1o, etc........
So yes UJ....you may as well not go because you WILL be out of place. Bodybuilders and anorexic looking men just don't usually mesh.
hed have to start not tomorow, not today, but yesterday.
theres no need to cut down anything,hed be ready.
its only 4 months, but 4 months on gear ,good diet, and training almost daily can do shocking results.
its not just team getbig thats gonna look good there, there will be 100s if not 1000s of jacked up guys.or somewhat jacked.
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So what BF I am in the pic in the mirror, that was about 3 days ago????????
send or post a pic.
the last ones i remember were faily lean. no way 16%.
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Alright so lets do some math.
So if I am 169lb now @ 18 BF (169 x 18% = 30.42lb) so for me to get down to 9% BF would mean I have to lose 15.21lb more)
So I am fucking 100% right i need to come in at 153.79lb, THANK YOU VERY FUCKING MUCH.
Since every lb lost = 3500 calorie deficit, mean I need to create (3500 x 15.21lb = 53,235 thousand calorie deficit)
So if I run a daily calorie deficit of 2000 a day by eating 600 calories a day on top of doing training etc = 53,235 divided by 2000 = 26 days...
FUCKING PERFECT,
So I should be able to get down to 154lb within 26 days (lets just call it a month)
So I should be 154lb by end of March, then if I start immediately juicing Test + Anavar means by June I should be ok or okish.
At least no total shit anyway.
Bingo
That's the plan.
it doesnt work like that though.
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which nes the before pics?
ofc you gonna lose muscle on 500cals with no steroids and overly exercising.
that kinda diet is used for morbidly obese patients post gastric operation and to treat a fatty liver.
the middle picture, id be in competitotn shape within 4weeks from that.
maybe 6.
go figure thats 10%
but like simon said, its only good when youre happy looking at mirror.
numbers dont mean fuck all and you know that, so dont "fuck around", you do the diet until it looks all shredded and then one steps on scale maybe.
who cares about numbers.
nobody.in.the .world.cares.about.numbe rs.
what youre doing with 600cals and no steroids is doomed to fail i feel its mot point talking to you.
this is last time ill say this, youre lean anough in middle pic to start steroids.
dont do 600cals diet.
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which nes the before pics?
ofc you gonna lose muscle on 500cals with no steroids and overly exercising.
that kinda diet is used for morbidly obese patients post gastric operation and to treat a fatty liver.
the middle picture, id be in competitotn shape within 4weeks from that.
maybe 6.
go figure thats 10%
but like simon said, its only good when youre happy looking at mirror.
numbers dont mean fuck all and you know that, so dont "fuck around", you do the diet until it looks all shredded and then one steps on scale maybe.
who cares about numbers.
nobody.in.the .world.cares.about.numbe rs.
what youre doing with 600cals and no steroids is doomed to fail i feel its mot point talking to you.
this is last time ill say this, youre lean anough in middle pic to start steroids.
dont do 600cals diet.
lets hope he listens
its starting to look like he will keep asking the question till he gets the answer he wants
bit like bj181
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yes bimac ;D
and as far the saying goes "team getbig will look like gods"
well, many have been on and of gear for decades, assuming gear takes a whle to kick in and up the metabolism etc, its basiclay already march.
not much time better get going.
everybody will put their efort in,this sport is something for ppl who dont ovethink things, they act first ,think later.
the rules are outlined, npot too much gear, not too much food and boom,thats that,summed up in 1 single sentence.
i know, every one person i see on the beach whos more shredded or somewhat better built, it does sting in the head for a brief second ;D
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yes bimac ;D
and as far the saying goes "team getbig will look like gods"
well, many have been on and of gear for decades, assuming gear takes a whle to kick in and up the metabolism etc, its basiclay already march.
not much time better get going.
everybody will put their efort in,this sport is something for ppl who dont ovethink things, they act first ,think later.
the rules are outlined, npot too much gear, not too much food and boom,thats that,summed up in 1 single sentence.
i know, every one person i see on the beach whos more shredded or somewhat better built, it does sting in the head for a brief second ;D
So are you saying if you saw dj181 and he was more ripped than you it would sting? ;D
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So are you saying if you saw dj181 and he was more ripped than you it would sting? ;D
hell no.
mean more like when one has superior structure, fuller at same leans,things like that.
if im entirely dwarfed that i dont care about.
or i have typicaly a wet back, seen at the beach one guy whoms back was so dry i never seen anything before or after, and been to plenty bbuilding shows etc.
things like that.
but clearly twinks who are evn smaller than me, nah.
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Since starting my diet about 2 weeks ago I actually ended up losing muscle and getting/looking fatter.....fucked up world.
I think I am easy 20 percent body fat for sure.
and you're gonna continue the same diet method?
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Thanks Gal, but I think you are way too nice to say I am 10% BF
no problem, that is no more than 10% dont worry.
i mean do you have a caliper?
they are somewhat accurate and they good to measure progress for sure.
and now get on gear and eat 1000-1500cals a day.
dont do this 500cals balonie natural dieting youre not miley circus.
the gear needs little bit energy to work
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Thanks man.
Honestly this fucking diet is killing me right now, I'm so fucking hypo with low blood sugar right now.
This what I eat today:
Morning (preworkout)
10g BCCA
2 scoop craze
Did Chest, Shoulders and Triceps for about 1 hour 45 minute
(no cardio now, I can't do cardio, I stopped completely cardio)
After workout:
10g BCCA
1 x scoop Gold Standard Whey (less than 4g carbs)
about 4.00pm
6-7 almonds
3 small walnuts
3 x small olives
1/4 chicken leg (very small, no skin)
......I feeling real fucking sick now, my heart being doing weird rhythms all day.
Should I go eat something, feels like quitting....what I should eat.
I want sleep so I don't binge.
maybe if I survive 2 more day I can do carb up on Saturday
Could you try and stop wasting everyones time, at this rate no one is going to have anything to do with you at all.
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Fucking cracking up here mate gods honest truth, trying hard to resist, might have to eat, what should I eat if I eat?
Don't want to eat but I need to eat.
Getting hypo again
Fuck off.
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Bast,
I am not sure how I can convey what I feel to you and my current mindset in a way which I feel might make some sense to you but I will give it a go.
I have come a long way in my journey from 253lb obese to as low as 165lb, and dealt with a lot of emotions on the way. This journey wasn't just about weight loss, it was dealing with who I was/am as a person, how I faced up to difficulty and challenges, how I conquered my demons, how I fight with temptation, how I fought with depression and many other things
It was so much more than physical transformation for me, it was a deeply profound and spiritual one.
If there is one word that I can use to describe it, it would be transcendence.
I believe in transcendence in every which way possible.
To go beyond limitations, beyond fear.....to be born again before you die.
Factors such as aesthetics training, issues to do with optimal training and optimal nutrition, getting the girls while important to some degree are really very low on ladder for me.
I live for the thrill, I live for the challenge, without challenge my life is meaningless.
Starving myself gives me sense of self control, it sharpens my senses, it teaches me HOW TO STAY HUNGARY
Not just literally, but mentally and spiritually.
I ALWAYS need to be reminded what its like to be hungry.
When I am hungry I am devastating, brutal in discipline, nothing short of death can stop me achieving my goals.
I have tunnel vision.
I am an extreme person by default.
Right now I am in the zone and in my anorexic mind frame and the stillness and beauty of how sharpe my senses are right now is almost a god like feeling and makes it worth it.
I feel at ONE
It's all about control.
Right now only thing I care about is that scale saying 154lb, only 15lb away and when I hit that maybe I will go down to 132lb but I won't go lower than that and when that challenge is over I will come back up to 165lb-170lb
Also I feel I owe "THAT" at least to my babydoll.
Excellent post.
Can you talk about the difference how you were treated especially by girls but also in general, when you were obese compared to when you are thin/in shape.
I've been both very fat and fit (not bodybuilder huge :() and the difference is night and day. Somewhere in the middle now but getting better thanks to the galeniko method.
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Just pissed on my Keto stick, looks pretty dark to me.
Good motivation
Don't always love keto diet but I do love those sticks. Great motivation!
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Uncle loonier is riveting to read.. I want that Keto stick looking like Purple Aki's skin..
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that is pretty much what I do, but have a shake + some nuts for breakfast.
there is NOTHING magic about fasting, if it did 'work' the way the retards proposing it thought it did it would be a BAD thing for bbing, but luckily IF doesn't actually do what they think it does
lowering systemic IGF1 is not something you want.
100g carbs a day is ideal for lifting imo, any lower and you just flirt with keto without getting the 'benefits' of keto, any higher and hard to lose fat (for sluggish older endos like us)
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Fuck this gay shit Keto diet, I ain't doing it no more.
Just had a plate of rice, some steak and a can of coke.
Fuck Keto.
Here is the new deal.
From tomorrow I am gonna do Intermittent Fasting, 20 hours fast, 4 hour eat window.
In the 4 hour eat window I am gonna have 180g Protein, 100g complex carb's and 50g fat
Ain't figuired it out yet but gonna eat around 1300-1500 calories a day but I am gonna up cardio.
Also fuck all this gay shit, gonna pin test next 48 hours, need to find fucking needles and syringes, I will film it.
Let the drugs to the fat loss.
Fuck keto just made me lose muscle and wanna binge.
Gay fucking diet
Pissing on a ketostick is as gay as pissing on a pregnancy test stick. Check your estrogen
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Fuck this gay shit Keto diet, I ain't doing it no more.
Just had a plate of rice, some steak and a can of coke.
Fuck Keto.
Here is the new deal.
From tomorrow I am gonna do Intermittent Fasting, 20 hours fast, 4 hour eat window.
In the 4 hour eat window I am gonna have 180g Protein, 100g complex carb's and 50g fat
Ain't figuired it out yet but gonna eat around 1300-1500 calories a day but I am gonna up cardio.
Also fuck all this gay shit, gonna pin test next 48 hours, need to find fucking needles and syringes, I will film it.
Let the drugs to the fat loss.
Fuck keto just made me lose muscle and wanna binge.
Gay fucking diet
hahahaha .. you are completely off your rocker I swear!
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Fuck this gay shit Keto diet, I ain't doing it no more.
Just had a plate of rice, some steak and a can of coke.
Fuck Keto.
Here is the new deal.
From tomorrow I am gonna do Intermittent Fasting, 20 hours fast, 4 hour eat window.
In the 4 hour eat window I am gonna have 180g Protein, 100g complex carb's and 50g fat
Ain't figuired it out yet but gonna eat around 1300-1500 calories a day but I am gonna up cardio.
Also fuck all this gay shit, gonna pin test next 48 hours, need to find fucking needles and syringes, I will film it.
Let the drugs to the fat loss.
Fuck keto just made me lose muscle and wanna binge.
Gay fucking diet
good to hear mate.
Just go to your local needle exchange tomorrow they will give you pins and syringes and wipes ect
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Yeah you are right....but about the IGF1 fuck all that shit I will start pinning 3-4 IU GH again with the test, still have some in my fridge...no biggie.
Like Gal said, pin shit first, ask questions later
Maybe you try some dancing Junior burns the cals.
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well this didnt last long the 600cals.
just eat 1500 thats god enough,the sweet spot.
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well this didnt last long the 600cals.
just eat 1500 thats god enough,the sweet spot.
or eat a 5 k breakfast like go 4 it and be done with it...
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well this didnt last long the 600cals.
just eat 1500 thats god enough,the sweet spot.
No shit, right? 600-800 is insane, thats like female head case starvation status.
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No shit, right? 600-800 is insane, thats like female head case starvation status.
my record is 60hrs no foods, but after a 15k cal all at once binge.
but that was a whole party weekend, time realy flew by.
but 600cals is why it laster for long in this case, for the better.
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my record is 60hrs no foods, but after a 15k cal all at once binge.
but that was a whole party weekend, time realy flew by.
but 600cals is why it laster for long in this case, for the better.
Lol.
Longest I've gone without food was 7 days. That's of course the IV meth diet. I don't recommend it.
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Lol.
Longest I've gone without food was 7 days. That's of course the IV meth diet. I don't recommend it.
bhaha, yah i know 1 person who didnt sleep for 14 days straight on coke non stop, cept small powernaps.insane.
now, back to the dieting, depending on how fat a person is,600cals and on gear can work for a while, but there will be need for refueling big meals often, and the other factor, standing that through is simply too much, will leave one sitting in lethargy all day.
but its not "too low", if you compare it to big guy whos on all fatburners available and does 2 hrs cardio daily but eats 2000cals,it comes down to the same more or less.
but when too lean, youll just get the flu and thats it,lol.
and if one somehow stands through it anyway, best to look upfront for kidney donor.
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bhaha, yah i know 1 person who didnt sleep for 14 days straight on coke non stop, cept small powernaps.insane.
now, back to the dieting, depending on how fat a person is,600cals and on gear can work for a while, but there will be need for refueling big meals often, and the other factor, standing that through is simply too much, will leave one sitting in lethargy all day.
but its not "too low", if you compare it to big guy whos on all fatburners available and does 2 hrs cardio daily but eats 2000cals,it comes down to the same more or less.
but when too lean, youll just get the flu and thats it,lol.
and if one somehow stands through it anyway, best to look upfront for kidney donor.
my 1st big diet years ago was 1600cal/daily, 30min cardio daily and a modified Yates lifting routine. I lost 110 pounds. It sucked. I dont have the time or drive to diet like that anymore, career, wife, family make it imlossiblr to diet hardcore consistently, always running here or there, have to grab food out, etc... this time I statted at 2600 @ 320lbs and worked down to 2200 cal @ 240ish lbs before I hopped on gear, all just eating decent lean meats with condiments and brown rice/wheat bread.... much easier to sustain long term (especially while natty) and wound 70 looking much better.
its noy the fastest way to lose fat but IMHO its the easiest when extremely fat,especially in a long enough timeframe to get a lot of fat off and to KEEP it off. Crash diets when extremepy fat are not condusive to keeping ghe weivhf off, people just go bacl to their old eating habits because fhey didnt learn how to eat moderately and make better food choices.
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When I help people lose weight, I look to change their eating habits, the way they think about food, and obviously BALANCE. My diet is a transition from shit to a balanced way of life/eating. I am successful 75-80% of the time.