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Been a couple of threads on this and it always comes up in threads now and again. i think as i stated before this Guy in the video is top in Anatomy and training. the exercise with a band i am doing due to injury...it works.
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Thanks for reminding me. I've noticed a distinct lack of upper chest lately and have been moving some of my flat plane exercises to incline plane (as my rotator cuff allows). This week, I am also going to incorporate kneeling land mine presses into my chest routine.
I do a lot of dipping movements (on a dip station and on rings) and I can see a nice upper/lower pec split. But without a doubt, my upper pecs are lagging. I want to be able to do a side chest and put a cup on the pec shelf!
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Thanks for reminding me. I've noticed a distinct lack of upper chest lately and have been moving some of my flat plane exercises to incline plane (as my rotator cuff allows). This week, I am also going to incorporate kneeling land mine presses into my chest routine.
I do a lot of dipping movements (on a dip station and on rings) and I can see a nice upper/lower pec split. But without a doubt, my upper pecs are lagging. I want to be able to do a side chest and put a cup on the pec shelf!
I miss doing Dips.. Great exercise.. I canīt wait to get back to normal again...
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Thanks for reminding me. I've noticed a distinct lack of upper chest lately and have been moving some of my flat plane exercises to incline plane (as my rotator cuff allows). This week, I am also going to incorporate kneeling land mine presses into my chest routine.
I do a lot of dipping movements (on a dip station and on rings) and I can see a nice upper/lower pec split. But without a doubt, my upper pecs are lagging. I want to be able to do a side chest and put a cup on the pec shelf!
Its a sickness, AJ. :D
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Big Donny what exactly is the exercise?
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Thanks for reminding me. I've noticed a distinct lack of upper chest lately and have been moving some of my flat plane exercises to incline plane (as my rotator cuff allows). This week, I am also going to incorporate kneeling land mine presses into my chest routine.
I do a lot of dipping movements (on a dip station and on rings) and I can see a nice upper/lower pec split. But without a doubt, my upper pecs are lagging. I want to be able to do a side chest and put a cup on the pec shelf!
Funny guy. ;D
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Funny guy. ;D
Haha! I've reached a level of subtlety that my serious posts are conflated with my trolling! I really do want to have more upper pec!
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Big Donny what exactly is the exercise?
A very good question. He talks of adduction and internal rotaion, shoulder elevation. A type of Fly but using slight shoulder elevation in the contracted position. thatīs how i see it. He goes deep into unusual exercises which he seems to invent. We all know most of this stuff but doing the exercise in the video and also from the lower position helps me in my Rehab.
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Thanks for reminding me. I've noticed a distinct lack of muscle throughout my entire body upper chest lately and have been moving some of my flat plane exercises to incline plane (as my rotator cuff allows). This week, I am also going to incorporate kneeling land mine presses into my chest routine.
I do a lot of dipping movements (on a dip station and on rings) and I can see a nice upper/lower pec split. But without a doubt, my upper pecs are lagging. I want to be able to do a side chest and put a cup on the pec shelf!
fixed
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fixed
:D
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can!
all about angles and mind-muscle. not letting your delts do work on inclines etc..
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My upper pecs rival Francos.
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My upper pecs rival Francos.
lucky man Wes.. ;D
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Been a couple of threads on this and it always comes up in threads now and again. i think as i stated before this Guy in the video is top in Anatomy and training. the exercise with a band i am doing due to injury...it works.
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lucky man Wes.. ;D
I was kidding of course,but I haven`t benched in years and do Smith and Dumbell Inclines as my main pressing exercises,along with Flyes.................no pec mass lost whatsoever.
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I believe so.
(http://i.imgur.com/in5V4r0l.jpg)
*awaits abuse*
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I was kidding of course,but I haven`t benched in years and do Smith and Dumbell Inclines as my main pressing exercises,along with Flyes.................no pec mass lost whatsoever.
while people do not need to over complicate things i am and always was a fan of learning Anatomy. Always good to keep your eyes wide open. The Basics are always a winner but i like this Guys "twist" on things. Shows on another video a great exercise with a Dumbbell too. Still most upper chests were build with good old Incline BB press and Flyes.
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I believe so.
(http://i.imgur.com/in5V4r0l.jpg)
*awaits abuse*
If that's you, it's impressive.
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If that's you, it's impressive.
Yup. I can PM you the uncropped no panty version as proof.
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Yup. I can PM you the uncropped no panty version as proof.
Please. I have the lotion and tissues waiting.
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Waller............lookin g thick brother!!
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Waller............looking thick brother!!
Getting there. Thanks ;D
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Very interesting channel, a lot of simple stuff that we rarely notice regarding training and isolating the muscle... Thanks Donny...
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Very interesting channel, a lot of simple stuff that we rarely notice regarding training and isolating the muscle... Thanks Donny...
He really has some great variations on exercises. I agree he has a great Channel.
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I am often challenged on isolation exercises, because I have a home gym with zero machines. I frequently have to monkey-patch things together.
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I am often challenged on isolation exercises, because I have a home gym with zero machines. I frequently have to monkey-patch things together.
incline flyes is great for upper chest if you do them right
superset with some incline presses
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incline flyes is great for upper chest if you do them right
superset with some incline presses
Rather than a straight superset what I find feels good is one then the other in one set. With a good squeeze after each rep. 20 reps of that should get your pecs burning.
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incline flyes is great for upper chest if you do them right
superset with some incline presses
Ive been off flyes for about a year because of my shoulder. I suppose it's time to test it again.
Shane Sweatt (my trainer) had me doing 1.5 reps for inclines: down, up halfway, down, up full extension. That's one rep.
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I am often challenged on isolation exercises, because I have a home gym with zero machines. I frequently have to monkey-patch things together.
He does show some great stuff too with bands and such. Itīs more on the inner/outer Rotation and understanding how the muscle works. obviously you are an advanced trainer -aj- but i see so many young guys just doing Benches and such but not really understanding what is going on in their body. I always explain what is going on to people in a language they understand.
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He does show some great stuff too with bands and such. Itīs more on the inner/outer Rotation and understanding how the muscle works. obviously you are an advanced trainer -aj- but i see so many young guys just doing Benches and such but not really understanding what is going on in their body. I always explain what is going on to people in a language they understand.
It took me DECADES to learn mind-muscle connection. I love learning new things.
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It took me DECADES to learn mind-muscle connection. I love learning new things.
I am the same, if a Guy talks sense..iīll listen and learn.
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I just do incline, flat, decline then cross overs ....that's always been the basics of my chest training. Chest grows evenly.
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I just do incline, flat, decline then cross overs ....that's always been the basics of my chest training. Chest grows evenly.
:P
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like skorp said basics,,i do a lot db work,and flyes inc/decline/dips/cable crossover..i just switch certain exercises in/out wk to wk,,i do db press flat variation toward top portion i turn palms in facing eac other puts a bit more tension on chest
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I just do incline, flat, decline then cross overs ....that's always been the basics of my chest training. Chest grows evenly.
Great balanced chest.
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If youre meant to have a good chest, then you will, no matter what exercise you do.
Incline, flat, decline, it all doesn't matter. Some Irish guy at my gym has a barrel sized chest and doesn't even do flat or incline barbell press. He does mostly hammer strength presses and machine work for chest.
Stop with this ridiculous nonsense.
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If youre meant to have a good chest, then you will, no matter what exercise you do.
Incline, flat, decline, it all doesn't matter. Some Irish guy at my gym has a barrel sized chest and doesn't even do flat or incline barbell press. He does mostly hammer strength presses and machine work for chest.
Stop with this ridiculous nonsense.
this too,,like most body parts,,but you can still tweak some stuff to your advantage as well...
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If youre meant to have a good chest, then you will, no matter what exercise you do.
Incline, flat, decline, it all doesn't matter. Some Irish guy at my gym has a barrel sized chest and doesn't even do flat or incline barbell press. He does mostly hammer strength presses and machine work for chest.
Stop with this ridiculous nonsense.
well if it works for him then so be it. I think itīs important to understand anatomy and training.
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this too,,like most body parts,,but you can still tweak some stuff to your advantage as well...
Sure, but even so, the changes will be minor. Are those minor changes enough to get really technical and detailed about your workouts? Well, I guess for some it is.
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Sure, but even so, the changes will be minor. Are those minor changes enough to get really technical and detailed about your workouts? Well, I guess for some it is.
Do you are saying that I will never have upper pec mass? I am not sure I like the dark turn this conversation has taken.
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Sure, but even so, the changes will be minor. Are those minor changes enough to get really technical and detailed about your workouts? Well, I guess for some it is.
depends..i'm not charles glass technical but it adds some different angle or tension its worth try,i'm not a carry note pad/bbing .com training log and log every rep/set kind of guy ..more instinctive..
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Sure, but even so, the changes will be minor. Are those minor changes enough to get really technical and detailed about your workouts? Well, I guess for some it is.
understanding is everything if you want to avoid injury or are injured. If you want maximum effect why not try variations? I find the guys videos outstanding. i remember a Gym i worked in about 9 years ago i worked a lot with a woman who was a physiotherapist. I learned as much as i could from her. It definitely helped me as i learned further. i understand your post but i like variations.
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Do you are saying that I will never have upper pec mass? I am not sure I like the dark turn this conversation has taken.
Yes, you will continue to look like shit, as you do in your picture.
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depends..i'm not charles glass technical but it adds some different angle or tension its worth try,i'm not a carry note pad/bbing .com training log and log every rep/set kind of guy ..more instinctive..
If I change up any angles or anything, its just so I don't get bored doing the same routine. I guess sometimes it has helped. But, overall, my strong bodyparts grow no matter what I do, as opposed to my weak bodyparts (chest). :'( :'( :'(
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understanding is everything if you want to avoid injury or are injured. If you want maximum effect why not try variations? I find the guys videos outstanding. i remember a Gym i worked in about 9 years ago i worked a lot with a woman who was a physiotherapist. I learned as much as i could from her. It definitely helped me as i learned further. i understand your post but i like variations.
I vary my workouts and try different angles and whatnot. But at the end of the day, my chest is always going to fail in comparison to my stronger bodyparts. Sure, I guess changing up angles has helped slightly, but its not like changing the angle will all of a sudden make my chest my strongest body part.
As I said before, I vary my workouts just so I don't get bored. Not because I think varying the angle will unlock some secret ingredient to growth.
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If I change up any angles or anything, its just so I don't get bored doing the same routine. I guess sometimes it has helped. But, overall, my strong bodyparts grow no matter what I do, as opposed to my weak bodyparts (chest). :'( :'( :'(
ok for arguments sake ...u say pecs are weak?are we talking development or strenght..or is due to shape/balance of chest..we are not doing m/f or flex mag type bullshit how to get arnold chest,we are talking about your chest..
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Yes, you will continue to look like shit, as you do in your picture.
I will continue to strive for Skorp1o-like perfection.
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guy in video doesnt have much upper chest maybe he doesnt follow his own advice ?
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guy in video doesnt have much upper chest maybe he doesnt follow his own advice ?
My exact thoughts.
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My exact thoughts.
after seeing last posts i checked video watched 3 secs saw him,,he's narrow/trap heavy/delts good but cross into chest ,he will improve maybe but geneticaaly chest will fill in a little no width there ,has stocky wrestler build structure..
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guy in video doesnt have much upper chest maybe he doesnt follow his own advice ?
He does and is in great shape. check out this DB exercise..
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not compared to your average getbigger
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I had better uppers when younger.
Did more inclines and flying cables with meeting point at nose height, doing crossover at the top.
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not compared to your average getbigger
True... ;D
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Upper chest? Ask Franco
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Upper chest? Ask Franco
Ask him 30 years ago.
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Upper chest? Ask Franco
He would have slayed some pussy were he a foot taller.
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Ask him 30 years ago.
Old school is the best school.
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I believe so.
(http://i.imgur.com/in5V4r0l.jpg)
*awaits abuse*
Nice Waller.
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waller: do you find that most girls are jealous because your tits are bigger than theirs?
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just do more of these.. :) :) :)https://youtu.be/TP6hQyLtS38
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waller: do you find that most girls are jealous because your tits are bigger than theirs?
Haha I've heard that enough, but jealous? I don't think so.
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Nice Waller.
Cheers dude.
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In before anyone mentions Hammer Strength inclines. My FB post from yesterday....
.About 3 1/2 weeks ago I decided I needed a little break from my gym and thought it would be good idea to go train at our local YMCA (formerly Golds). It was a chest day. Warmed up, started with bench took it 405 x 2 no problem. Went to DB inclines took that to 120 x 8-10 no problems. Then I decided to throw in a few sets of Hammer Strength inclines and low and behold I blew out both of my shoulders. This SUCKS!
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In before anyone mentions Hammer Strength inclines. My FB post from yesterday....
.About 3 1/2 weeks ago I decided I needed a little break from my gym and thought it would be good idea to go train at our local YMCA (formerly Golds). It was a chest day. Warmed up, started with bench took it 405 x 2 no problem. Went to DB inclines took that to 120 x 8-10 no problems. Then I decided to throw in a few sets of Hammer Strength inclines and low and behold I blew out both of my shoulders. This SUCKS!
Okay, what does that FB post mean? ??? ???
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Okay, what does that FB post mean? ??? ???
Just when you think a machine is good for isolating, think of the consequences that may come from it. Besides, I think the title of this thread is "Upper chest activation'...no?
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I've found the best upper pec exercise to be reverse grip bench. Seriously give it a try.
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Just when you think a machine is good for isolating, think of the consequences that may come from it. Besides, I think the title of this thread is "Upper chest activation'...no?
Um, I don't think anyone believes because a machine is good for isolating one body part, that doesn't mean you can't injure another body part. I have absolutely no degrees or certification in training, and I even know that. In fact, who wouldn't know that? You must be talking to some really dumb people.
I mean, a hammer strength may isolate the chest more, but that doesn't mean your shoulders and triceps are still not getting worked. I cant imagine anyone asserting that just because a machine is meant to isolate one body part, it doesnt mean other body parts are also not getting worked.
Consequences can come from any movement. Look at all the powerlifters who get injured every year using free weights.
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Um, I don't think anyone believes because a machine is good for isolating one body part, that doesn't mean you can't injure another body part. I have absolutely no degrees or certification in training, and I even know that. In fact, who wouldn't know that? You must be talking to some really dumb people.
I mean, a hammer strength may isolate the chest more, but that doesn't mean your shoulders and triceps are still not getting worked. I cant imagine anyone asserting that just because a machine is meant to isolate one body part, it doesnt mean other body parts are also not getting worked.
Consequences can come from any movement. Look at all the powerlifters who get injured every year using free weights.
Still, there is a small amount of irony is successfully getting a 405 double and then moving to a "pumping" machine and fucking up your shoulders. Coach, did you tighten your core when you did the Hammer? Did you row the handles down to your chest before EXPLODING the press? Did you (yes!) try to "rip the handles apart?".
Many of these advanced techniques could have saved your shoulders.
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Still, there is a small amount of irony is successfully getting a 405 double and then moving to a "pumping" machine and fucking up your shoulders. Coach, did you tighten your core when you did the Hammer? Did you row the handles down to your chest before EXPLODING the press? Did you (yes!) try to "rip the handles apart?".
Many of these advanced techniques could have saved your shoulders.
It's something I should have known better. The machine is a great machine the problem is the handles force elbows/hands below the chest and STARTING at the bottom of the movement.
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It's something I should have known better. The machine is a great machine the problem is the handles force elbows/hands below the chest and STARTING at the bottom of the movement.
an internal rotation deficit can cause injuries in the gym
When will you listen to me
I'm sorry to hear coach
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i blame dorian.
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Still, there is a small amount of irony is successfully getting a 405 double and then moving to a "pumping" machine and fucking up your shoulders. Coach, did you tighten your core when you did the Hammer? Did you row the handles down to your chest before EXPLODING the press? Did you (yes!) try to "rip the handles apart?".
Many of these advanced techniques could have saved your shoulders.
Of course its ironic, but it still doesn't mean it cant occur. Its not like no one ever got hurting using machines or cables.
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an internal rotation deficit can cause injuries in the gym
When will you listen to me
I'm sorry to hear coach
First injury ever to my shoulders. It just happened to be on a machine.
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In the gym. Replaced all flat work with incline targeting work. Muttering "Skorpio" with each rep. Nothing to report...yet.
Still got in my dips, tho. Fuck the medial pec, if there is such a thing.
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In the gym. Replaced all flat work with incline targeting work. Muttering "Skorpio" with each rep. Nothing to report...yet.
Still got in my dips, tho. Fuck the medial pec, if there is such a thing.
I'm telling you, reverse grip bench.
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I'm telling you, reverse grip bench.
I may give those a try next week. I did incline DB press and kneeling landmine presses.
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I'm telling you, reverse grip bench.
Interesting. Lowering the weights quite a bit on that one I pressume?
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Interesting. Lowering the weights quite a bit on that one I pressume?
To start out yes for sure...but you'd be surprised how much weight you can actually do with a reverse grip.
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In the gym. Replaced all flat work with incline targeting work. Muttering "Skorpio" with each rep. Nothing to report...yet.
Still got in my dips, tho. Fuck the medial pec, if there is such a thing.
LOL!!!
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Been a couple of threads on this and it always comes up in threads now and again. i think as i stated before this Guy in the video is top in Anatomy and training. the exercise with a band i am doing due to injury...it works.
Pushups with your feet elevated on a chair :)
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Dude I'm these vids is awesome. I did the upper pec dumbell shrug-over move he showed....works like a charm! Been training hard for 10 years and this one really impressed me. Will do every week from now on.
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Dude I'm these vids is awesome. I did the upper pec dumbell shrug-over move he showed....works like a charm! Been training hard for 10 years and this one really impressed me. Will do every week from now on.
helps me at the moment cause of my neck... guy aint a Bodybuilder as such but has some good ideas. anyway nice Day here in Celle...hit the pool me thinks.. ;D
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Saw another good upper-pec exercise: reverse grip DB incline press. Basically the bottom position is a NG press and you turn your hands to the reverse on the press. Tried a few of these on an experiment and you can REALLY feel it in your upper pecs.
T-Nation (oh brother) has a couple of interesting articles talking about TUT sets lasting 50-70 seconds approximating the hypertrophy effects of occlusion training.
What all that means is that I am gonna get HHHUUUUUGGGEEEEE.
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helps me at the moment cause of my neck... guy aint a Bodybuilder as such but has some good ideas. anyway nice Day here in Celle...hit the pool me thinks.. ;D
Cheers brotha
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Saw another good upper-pec exercise: reverse grip DB incline press. Basically the bottom position is a NG press and you turn your hands to the reverse on the press. Tried a few of these on an experiment and you can REALLY feel it in your upper pecs.
T-Nation (oh brother) has a couple of interesting articles talking about TUT sets lasting 50-70 seconds approximating the hypertrophy effects of occlusion training.
What all that means is that I am gonna get HHHUUUUUGGGEEEEE.
NG press?
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NG press?
Neutral grip.
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Neutral grip.
smith machine 'guillotine or bench'to the neck lying flat ,,I have done these off and on for yrs,,,last night I did inc pres/inc flyes sometimes I will do both for few workouts then switch out..
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smith machine 'guillotine or bench'to the neck lying flat ,,I have done these off and on for yrs,,,last night I did inc pres/inc flyes sometimes I will do both for few workouts then switch out..
good Post stevo