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Title: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 17, 2015, 07:10:04 AM
Ok here we go I know the guy in china picked  special bunk kits just for me same with the Unipharma T3 they picked me out a few boxes that had no active T3,same with the Accord arimidex 1mg tablets-LOL
 everything is as legit as it comes I also have some clomid tablets and some Ovigil HCG my T3 even has the barcode sticker.

My HGH is "thegreytop" from the best, accord arimidex is euro Human grade -very high quality arimidex. I am actually using a T3 25mcg-T4100mcg combo instead of T3 due to the synergistic effect with the HGH. Everything is 100% legit as it gets!

I was running straight T4 but ran out but the combo is mainly T4 I did grab a few boxes of T3 for the hell of it. anybody want to see my upcoming blast-LOL I'll post a few pics I'm retaining really nicely on that HGH. My blast is going to be the biggest amount of AAS I have ever taken and it's all quality! I can take pics it's 1,000% legit. if anybody can find any 100% bunk gear in my PCT stack I'll retire from getbig it's all legit. same with my blast. I have never used any bunk AAS. Most of what I use comes rom kroger Pharmacy except the chinese HGH.


Ive seen tests on the HGH and AAS plus some of it is from the pharmacy so it's 1,000% legit this break should help alot! It took alot to get back in the gym. .

so this is it! My strength is still good. I'm still filming clips soon as I get a better phone I'll post some clips. I couldn;t even get it right last time images are way to big. if somebody thinks they can help PM me. I can't even email them to anybody
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 17, 2015, 07:14:28 AM
Last night- this is just  a still I did record but they won't post image is too large and no way to scale it down! I have no issues posting the clips if somebody thinks they can figure out how. I can;t even send them to my email says image is to large and there is no way to scale it down not even before you record
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: Jizmo on October 17, 2015, 07:32:17 AM
just so that you know, hgh and t4 only work synergistically if you dont use t3...

if you use exogenous t3 your t4 to t3 conversion gets shut down.
the benefit of hgh and t4 is that hgh increases conversion of t4 to t3 (which involves many steps in between and does actually cause anabolic effects, i forgot how though).
again, this conversion is shut down from exogenous t3, essentially rendering t4 useless and preventing the anabolic effects of increased conversion.

so if you use hgh then i would not use t3, but a higher dosage of t4 (150mcg maybe)

you might get more out of that. t4 is also cheaper and less often faked imo.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 17, 2015, 07:56:22 AM
just so that you know, hgh and t4 only work synergistically if you dont use t3...

if you use exogenous t3 your t4 to t3 conversion gets shut down.
the benefit of hgh and t4 is that hgh increases conversion of t4 to t3 (which involves many steps in between and does actually cause anabolic effects, i forgot how though).
again, this conversion is shut down from exogenous t3, essentially rendering t4 useless and preventing the anabolic effects of increased conversion.

so if you use hgh then i would not use t3, but a higher dosage of t4 (150mcg maybe)

you might get more out of that. t4 is also cheaper and less often faked imo.

My T3 is 1,000 times legit check out the box it still has the price and code on it. . I might still have some straight T4 left. I ran out so just been taking the combo. T3/T4 rarely faked especially by Unipharma too cheap of a drug to counterfeit. maybe a UGL would do it but not the Unipharma T3 that's what's in europe right now.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: Jizmo on October 17, 2015, 12:20:30 PM
yeah im not doubting your stuff is legit, that was not my point. just a general statement. turkish t3 is often shit

im just telling you that you are better off with t4 alone if you run GH ;)
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: WOOO on October 17, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
Last night- this is just  a still I did record but they won't post image is too large and no way to scale it down! I have no issues posting the clips if somebody thinks they can figure out how. I can;t even send them to my email says image is to large and there is no way to scale it down not even before you record

Upload to a free pic or vid upload site. Link here.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: Davidtheman100 on October 17, 2015, 09:06:41 PM


im just telling you that you are better off with t4 alone if you run GH ;)

I agree with this
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on October 18, 2015, 02:13:52 AM
500lb bench and still does "PCT"..oh brother, your not going to get "cut" from using t4 and gh you fucking retard, you will get cut from diet and cardio. you then push to legit 4% and 8% bone dry using t4 and gh.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 20, 2015, 11:12:11 PM
500lb bench and still does "PCT"..oh brother, your not going to get "cut" from using t4 and gh you fucking retard, you will get cut from diet and cardio. you then push to legit 4% and 8% bone dry using t4 and gh.

You have NO idea how much cardio I do! I was a Marathon runner wich are 26.2 miles so yeah busting out 3-5 miles is no big deal! C'mon I would go on 3.5-4 hour runs what's 30 mins? don't talk so quick because you don't know everything I do or my cardio backround.

It's my PCT and if I want to run HGH and T4, a few shots of HCG and half a tab of clomid .5mg adex EOD to give a dryer look that's my PCT choice and it's working! If I ran HGH without T4 wich is cheap that would be dumb. It's what I choose it's working my drugs are all 100% legit enough said.If it works and is retaining my muscle fibers the HGH is keeping my full and more 3 dimensional. I posted pics on my PC and they are fine for PCT and off-season.

I have those clips I shot them again I can't load them. whoever knows more about it PM me.I will  tell them the messages that pop up when I try to send the clips to somebodys phone or even my email. I have gotten clips to send to people phone before but they were shot with a better phone.

I do alot of cardio(I'm a ex long distance runner) a few miles HIT is nothing to me. and that's what I choose to use for PCT. If I use HGH during PCT it will help big time and why not throw in some T4 that would be dumb if I didn't use T4 with the HGH. Look what I did in 2 months you cant' deny I made a solid 12 lbs gains. In the pics it's clear as day. maybe little fluid retention but not much my waist is even smaller and my weight is up this week.

You will be surprised in 7 months my friend. like I said check out my 2 month transformation and you cannot say I made great gains in 8 weeks! I charted it all on here as well. Just wait I will get much better. Even in 3 months I will look  improved. I can get heavy and decently conditioned even at 230lbs wich I can get to easy if I want I don't look bad of course I don't look great but I can pack on alot of size on this 5ft 6IN body. If I really wanted to I could get in the 250lb range.getting 230;bs last year was simple I slowed down because I don;t want to be 250lbs or even 230lbs it wasn;t very comfortble walking or sleeping at that weight.

This PCT is sold. I didn't post the clomid tabs but I can they are pharma cln-50's. I used T$ till I ra out with the HGH and I had a combo so I am using that till I get more straight T4.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: jb14972 on October 21, 2015, 12:30:06 AM
who is benching 500? did i miss something or was it sarcasm???
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: dj181 on October 21, 2015, 12:38:56 AM
who is benching 500? did i miss something or was it sarcasm???

well let's see here...

marathon runner, 500 bench, 19 inch arm, and most likely can dunk a basketball at five foot five

very impressive
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: jb14972 on October 21, 2015, 12:52:03 AM
500lb bench is legit, what was your weight when you hit it?
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 21, 2015, 01:45:16 AM
well let's see here...

marathon runner, 500 bench, 19 inch arm, and most likely can dunk a basketball at five foot five

very impressive

I don't run Marathons anymore! I can show a Marathon picture if you guys wanta good laugh. I weighed 145lbs last marathon I did.  No never could dunk a basketball but could dunk a tennis ball. very cose to 500lbs bench is legit. so is my other training if you watch my clips I don't fuck around much very strict form with good weight, I do alot of time under tension reps lately.  I just mix it up a bunch but always good strict form with the heaviest weight I can do and get 15-20 reps.

My arms pumped are pretty close to 19IN when on gear. and there not fat there sharp and vascular. My muscle bellies are filling out nice this last few weeks and My bicep peaks as a whole have more of a peak then they used to have. This pic is sharp for what I am  taking right now. I might of lost a little size but it was fluid I look dryer now. There are 2 pics with a shit phone where I can't flex very hard and still take a picture. why are 18-19IN arms impressive? I had 16IN arms when I was a teen.

Anyway PCT is going very well you can't say my arms are fat and bloofy and 18-19IN , My arms are very sold and insanely vascular! shitty phone and they still appear very decent. In person diffrent ball game you would would be able to see the peak better and the size of my triceps wich make up most of my arm are pretty thick and I am super vascular in person it's obvious to alot of people I'm juicing or using some sort of ped, nobody in my gym except 1 other guy has crazy vascularity like that and people do ask if I'm cycling if it's another guy cycling and can't understand why he isn't as vascular or sharp looking or as strong a me they come ask me. 185lbs of fairly lean muscle on somebody who is 5-5IN (5ft 6IN) who is as strong  is impressive

I will admit this is not a huge juicer town and the gyms are family oriented. I am not saying people do not use AAS there but it is not like NY or NJ ,Cali, so not many guys use PEDS there just a handfull.
also the gear you guys fuck with me about was tested I don't know if they are label claims but they came up in my bloodwork, The AP Test cyp was legit,the sust was legit,the winstrol was legit that's all I was on when they took blood. So yes gear was real. It showed when they took my blood awhile back.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: jb14972 on October 21, 2015, 02:15:42 AM
18-19 inch arms are not small arms especially as lean as your arms are. 16" arms are alot smaller lol 2-3" is a big difference. i wont debate what size your arms are bc all the pics are close up selfies of your arm extended. how could anyone guess your arm size like that lol.

a 500lb bench at 198 is fucking insane, i have a good friend that has hit 485 and has hit 465 in competition at 198. a 500lb bench at that body weight puts you in the top 10 powerlifters in the country right now. its been a minute since i looked up the current stats but a year ago there wasnt 10 198 guys hitting 500. hell the american record is 545 from late 70's or 80's.   

if you are anywhere close to 200 and benching 500 you are missing your calling in power lifting and to be a bb dieting down all the time make that extremely hard to believe.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: jb14972 on October 21, 2015, 02:40:09 AM
top american bench press since 2007
1.    Dennis Cieri   RAWUnited   2010-06-19      535
2.    Ryan Celli   RUPC   2009-01-24       534
3.    Kent Spires   WPC   2015-07-25   197.09   524
4.    Tom Finn   UPA   2015-05-16   198.00    523
5.    Greg Doucette   RUPC   2011-01-23      523
6.    Craig Koffler   WPC   2014-11-15   197.09   507
7.    Josh Lentz   USPA   2015-08-29   197.97   507
8.    Jason Mallett   SPF   2007-03-10      505
9.    Garrett Griffin   RUPC   2014-02-08       501
10.    Frank Costanzo   APF   2010-06-13      500
11.    Dan Dudgeon   USPA   2015-06-13   188.05   485
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 21, 2015, 02:53:59 AM
18-19 inch arms are not small arms especially as lean as your arms are. 16" arms are alot smaller lol 2-3" is a big difference. i wont debate what size your arms are bc all the pics are close up selfies of your arm extended. how could anyone guess your arm size like that lol.

a 500lb bench at 198 is fucking insane, i have a good friend that has hit 485 and has hit 465 in competition at 198. a 500lb bench at that body weight puts you in the top 10 powerlifters in the country right now. its been a minute since i looked up the current stats but a year ago there wasnt 10 198 guys hitting 500. hell the american record is 545 from late 70's or 80's.  

if you are anywhere close to 200 and benching 500 you are missing your calling in power lifting and to be a bb dieting down all the time make that extremely hard to believe.

I can hit 495lbs with straps and chalk. I'm not sure about that record my buddy at the gym hit 505 lbs at
195 lbs and he's 5-6%F y guess is 5% he is just 22 years old he set a record for our state but he had to do all 3 lifts squat bench and deadlift and they added up the total he crushed the old record by 130 lbs. When he reps 505 for sets of 2 he does use a powerlifting suit. he is meant to be a powerlifter. I like lifting heavy a day a week and max put but in the end I don't think it benefits my goal but putting up some weight makes me feel good.

What works for me is alot of time under tension reps with pretty heavy weight. I have said before I get more growth doing a pump set of 100 reps with 135 lbs as my last burn out set. It sounds light and easy but try it! I doubt many will get 100 reps with 135 lbs it took me a few weeks to hit that 135lbs fpr 100 reps all in one set on the flat. that gives me a crazy painfull pump. I don't get pumps maxing out for 1-2reps. I have some powerlifting backround but never cared tp do deadlifts much. I still dp the these days but don't go super heavy when deadlifting 315 is what I usually deadlift for 6-8 reps. I spent mpre time benching then anything since I benched since I was 12 years old. I didn't do any other lifts till 14-16 years old.

I'll back my shit up with video if somebody knows how I can load these clips. I can't adjust them so they won't send anywhere I will just get that message. Image size to large and I can't find anyway to make it smaller
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on October 21, 2015, 03:00:26 AM
damn white widow i didn't know you were so strong, really, i believe you now. you must be a monster in person, i mean with those ripped up inner quads and 19" guns + 500lb bench. you also really do have the best cardio, i bet you could run circles around most marathon guys and hiit users. damn you are so vascular mate, how can i be like you one day? what does it take? can you tell me? do i need chinese gh and thyroid drugs? or maybe 10+ years of using hormones with extremely hard training like you say you do to be able to achieve your physique. can i start at 20 years old like you did and achieve what you did in 10 years. probably not, but even i have half the physique that you do i am a happy man.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 21, 2015, 03:02:26 AM
top american bench press since 2007
1.    Dennis Cieri   RAWUnited   2010-06-19      535
2.    Ryan Celli   RUPC   2009-01-24       534
3.    Kent Spires   WPC   2015-07-25   197.09   524
4.    Tom Finn   UPA   2015-05-16   198.00    523
5.    Greg Doucette   RUPC   2011-01-23      523
6.    Craig Koffler   WPC   2014-11-15   197.09   507
7.    Josh Lentz   USPA   2015-08-29   197.97   507
8.    Jason Mallett   SPF   2007-03-10      505
9.    Garrett Griffin   RUPC   2014-02-08       501
10.    Frank Costanzo   APF   2010-06-13      500
11.    Dan Dudgeon   USPA   2015-06-13   188.05   485

well some powerlifting works diffrent I have a friend who trains at my gym who is the kid who is more vascular,stronger and just has the genetics. He competes in the powerlifting comps that make you do bench,squat and the deadlift and add your score if he just did bench he could fuck up  alot of these numbers, he is only 22 and also comes in and does these powerlifting meets just 5%BF jacked up hes got insane genetics.

he could easily be a Bodybuilder if he wanted he is just more into powerlifting,.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on October 21, 2015, 03:21:45 AM
well some powerlifting works diffrent I have a friend who trains at my gym who is the kid who is more vascular,stronger and just has the genetics. He competes in the powerlifting comps that make you do bench,squat and the deadlift and add your score if he just did bench he could fuck up  alot of these numbers, he is only 22 and also comes in and does these powerlifting meets just 5%BF jacked up hes got insane genetics.

he could easily be a Bodybuilder if he wanted he is just more into powerlifting,.

195lb 5% bf not guessing more than 6"3 = bodybuilder no matter what dumb fuck but your full of shit so LOL
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 21, 2015, 03:30:09 AM
damn white widow i didn't know you were so strong, really, i believe you now. you must be a monster in person, i mean with those ripped up inner quads and 19" guns + 500lb bench. you also really do have the best cardio, i bet you could run circles around most marathon guys and hiit users. damn you are so vascular mate, how can i be like you one day? what does it take? can you tell me? do i need chinese gh and thyroid drugs? or maybe 10+ years of using hormones with extremely hard training like you say you do to be able to achieve your physique. can i start at 20 years old like you did and achieve what you did in 10 years. probably not, but even i have half the physique that you do i am a happy man.

your funny. No I didn't come close to winning a marathon but it's something you probably couldn't do. an elite marathon time i 2 hours 25 minutes mine was 3 hours and 19 minutes so no I am not a elite marathon runner nor did I want to be. I did a few it really is a good experience and decided to not run another one.

That was a decade ago. I ran them off cycle. I have never used gear for longer then a year on. I mentioned multiple times I had to take off 5 years after my car accident. so training consistency has been a issue. I do have 1 solid year since I started up again I also have bad discs but we all have pain so i just train through it!

All I am saying is don't assume you know if I am doing cardio or not and there is nothing wrong with my PCT protocol.

What I did worked for me and pictures don't lie! even if I'm not where i want to be or need to be I have 7 months! That's along time to get in peak condition! I thinat 7 months out I am exactly where I need to be off gear using my PCT protocol I designed for myself.

pics don't lie like i said nobody can say I didn't put in some good work and put on some good lean size.  here tell me I don't like way bigger. My delts are way bigger, My chest is way thicker, My biceps are way bigger, My traps are bigger, my legs are more conditioned. It shows and you saw me start from week 1 don't  lie. pit your specs on and look at the diffrence. Just wait till I start blasting AAS,HGH,and slin then you will see some thickness! The top pic is when i was at week 1- 172.5lbs- 2nd pic was 2 months later at 185lbs great progress for just 2 months mainly on 800mg a week.

When I get done with the PCT and start blastig 2.5-3 grams plus HGH and insulin just watch me blow up. of course all of our goals are to bulk and not put on to much BF% so I will not go much higher then maybe 200-210lbs at 5ft 6IN That's only another 15 bs so shouldn;t take too much long then the cutting starts.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 21, 2015, 03:45:04 AM
195lb 5% bf not guessing more than 6"3 = bodybuilder no matter what dumb fuck but your full of shit so LOL

he's bout 5ft 10IN he ususally 210 he cutt down to 195 for that meet crushed that record. I have no reason to lie. I wish I had his genetics.  look at my 2 month tranformation p[ics and say I didn't put in some work! Everything is bigger!

I was in good shape in the first pic at 172lbs but way norrow and my delts lost alot of size. I had lost alot of thickness then look at the 2nd pic and my measurments are on point those are lean gains. a touch of water but nothing much my face isn't puffy no gyno .

I keep getting more and more vascular no props for working hard huh? I do this for myself it keeps my mind occupied and makes me feel good. Maybe I don;t have the best genetics but I'm very impressive in person and not many at the gym are on my level. maybe 1-2 guys can ift the same amount of weight, 1 kid that 22 year old is def stronger and leaner then me but besides him nobody there rains as hard or as heavy s me. A far as the chinese HGH that guy is super ;egit these"thegreytops" have been tested they are not serostim quality but they are lower 20's. I wouldn't spend that much on HGH during a PCT/off-cycle stack

what brand of gear do you use?
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: dj181 on October 21, 2015, 04:59:30 AM
this here is a 18.5 inch arm

Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 21, 2015, 07:31:29 AM
this here is a 18.5 inch arm



yeah notice how our forarms are similar. That's great lighting too. man you guys want vids and tape measurments-lol. I know they are 18In I had them measured at my last appt. they couldn;t even fit my arm to take my BP. pics don;t do justice with a 19$ phone. That's a photoshoot with Mentzer in peak condition mine are taken with a 10$ phone with shitty lighting and 18IN isn't very big. a big shot of insulin ,HGH and a shot of winstrol in each BI and you can pump them up to 18IN easy. just wait. You will see. I did one 2 month tranformation and the 12lbs looks good.

I'll do another one and get to 200lbs and we will see what I look like.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on October 21, 2015, 08:16:07 AM
yeah notice how our forarms are similar. That's great lighting too. man you guys want vids and tape measurments-lol. I know they are 18In I had them measured at my last appt. they couldn;t even fit my arm to take my BP. pics don;t do justice with a 19$ phone. That's a photoshoot with Mentzer in peak condition mine are taken with a 10$ phone with shitty lighting and 18IN isn't very big. a big shot of insulin ,HGH and a shot of winstrol in each BI and you can pump them up to 18IN easy. just wait. You will see. I did one 2 month tranformation and the 12lbs looks good.

I'll do another one and get to 200lbs and we will see what I look like.

it is not his "peak condition" you don't know shit about "peak condition" and never will. that picture is very flat in lighting and there is no darkness to go along with the light to accentuate all of his muscularity and condition, you would have no idea how big this guy is in person, have u competed in bb? probably big enough to make u shit ww. no amount of diuretics steroids thyroid drugs peptides ever will give you get you to the peak condition these are the finishing touches and are done specially and through personally learned protocols that the bodybuilder has learned through learning to listen to his body and through years of experimentation in a bodybuilding "career". ever wonder how the big boys get so shredded and big, well that is what it is. you'd know if you were someone and something in bodybuilding. 18" lean arms would make you shit guarantee you have no idea you fucking troll. keep living in your make believe world bullshitter i hate fcking idiots like you who think they could stand next to a bb'ing great and make an impression, you'd fucking look like a big ball of fatty breast tissue next to mentzer. BY THE WAY THIS IS THE FUNNIEST SHIT IVE READ IN A WHILE "a big shot of insulin ,HGH and a shot of winstrol in each BI and you can pump them up to 18IN easy. just wait. You will see. I did one 2 month tranformation and the 12lbs looks good." what are you fucking 12 years old gimp face
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: dj181 on October 21, 2015, 10:48:55 AM
yeah notice how our forarms are similar. That's great lighting too. man you guys want vids and tape measurments-lol. I know they are 18In I had them measured at my last appt. they couldn;t even fit my arm to take my BP. pics don;t do justice with a 19$ phone. That's a photoshoot with Mentzer in peak condition mine are taken with a 10$ phone with shitty lighting and 18IN isn't very big. a big shot of insulin ,HGH and a shot of winstrol in each BI and you can pump them up to 18IN easy. just wait. You will see. I did one 2 month tranformation and the 12lbs looks good.

I'll do another one and get to 200lbs and we will see what I look like.

there is a HUUUUUUUUUUGE difference btw an 18.5 inch ripped hard dry conditioned arm and a bloated fat watery 19 inch arm

once that bloated fat watery 19 inch arm was conditioned down to a HARD and DRY 5 percent it would maybe measure 16 inches... maybe
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: goku on October 21, 2015, 01:00:03 PM
WW, credit to you for overcoming some tough adversities in your life and getting into something positive. it's not easy, i know.

but having said that, you do not have 18 inch arms and you are not benching anywhere close to 500lbs (this one is surely just a joke, a really bad one but a joke nonetheless)
and your forearms being similar to this man??.....

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Z4DY3lVf5rQ/VVEEKqDIcsI/AAAAAAAAcHk/1CXpKMujlXA/s1600/Mike%2BMentzer%2Bforearms.jpg)


Jesus wept.


oh and you're not 8% bodyfat, if you were anywhere close then you'd be posting pic after pic of yourself without a baggy vest.
sorry to sound like a prick because you actually seem like a decent guy from your previous posts, but all this is beyond the point of being funny, it's actually worrying. in fact, i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and put it down to just messing around for kicks, i refuse to believe you're that deluded.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: jb14972 on October 21, 2015, 03:37:20 PM
jesus christ man you said he hit 505 in a suit im assuming you meant bench shirt and 505 in a shirt is a laughing joke compared to a 500lb bench raw. even amateurs with limited experience are getting 100lbs out of gear. you clearly dont know much about powerlifting since you said add up your score lol

upload the video to youtube and post the link here, should take you about 3 minutes

im nots saying that there isnt people walking around with stupid big bench presses bc that the typical gym rate bragging strength but there isnt people walking around the rank top 10 in a lift that dont compete. drugs aside it take certain training style to reach that level of strength and its definitely not 100 rep sets with slow controlled contractions for a pump. im not trying to hate on you bc you seem like a good dude but your judgement of strength is off. 
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 21, 2015, 05:50:39 PM
mentzers got a better camera and light-jk I'm not comparing him to me. I said id post some clips but I can't they won;t post to you tube I can't even email them to myself. There are guys out there benching alot but dosn't mean they compete in powerlifting meets. Yeah it was a bench shirt not a business suit-lol
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 21, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
WW, credit to you for overcoming some tough adversities in your life and getting into something positive. it's not easy, i know.

but having said that, you do not have 18 inch arms and you are not benching anywhere close to 500lbs (this one is surely just a joke, a really bad one but a joke nonetheless)
and your forearms being similar to this man??.....

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Z4DY3lVf5rQ/VVEEKqDIcsI/AAAAAAAAcHk/1CXpKMujlXA/s1600/Mike%2BMentzer%2Bforearms.jpg)


Jesus wept.

what if i measured them and they were over 18 pumped not cold would you apologize? 18IN arms are not insanely hard to get


oh and you're not 8% bodyfat, if you were anywhere close then you'd be posting pic after pic of yourself without a baggy vest.
sorry to sound like a prick because you actually seem like a decent guy from your previous posts, but all this is beyond the point of being funny, it's actually worrying. in fact, i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and put it down to just messing around for kicks, i refuse to believe you're that deluded.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: jb14972 on October 21, 2015, 07:12:47 PM
powerlifting 101 suits is in reference to a squat or deadlift SUIT. shirt is in reference to a bench SHIRT. just to clarify. you obviously like to argue since you are now defending "guys out there" by saying there are guys out there benching alot they just dont compete. yea there are big benches out there that dont compete but not top in the country and you are claiming to be doing that by benching 500 but avoiding the statement and keep referencing your buddy that uses a bench shirt and how strong he is. this is honestly gotten to dumb for me to even pay attention to anymore.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: Dr.J on October 23, 2015, 03:38:31 AM
Looking good WW, keep up the good work!
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 24, 2015, 08:07:54 AM
there is a HUUUUUUUUUUGE difference btw an 18.5 inch ripped hard dry conditioned arm and a bloated fat watery 19 inch arm

once that bloated fat watery 19 inch arm was conditioned down to a HARD and DRY 5 percent it would maybe measure 16 inches... maybe

My biceps are not fat or watery. even during PCT. I did lose about .5in with no gear
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 24, 2015, 10:53:00 AM
I can hit 495lbs with straps and chalk. I'm not sure about that record my buddy at the gym hit 505 lbs at
195 lbs and he's 5-6%F y guess is 5% he is just 22 years old he set a record for our state but he had to do all 3 lifts squat bench and deadlift and they added up the total he crushed the old record by 130 lbs. When he reps 505 for sets of 2 he does use a powerlifting suit. he is meant to be a powerlifter. I like lifting heavy a day a week and max put but in the end I don't think it benefits my goal but putting up some weight makes me feel good.

What works for me is alot of time under tension reps with pretty heavy weight. I have said before I get more growth doing a pump set of 100 reps with 135 lbs as my last burn out set. It sounds light and easy but try it! I doubt many will get 100 reps with 135 lbs it took me a few weeks to hit that 135lbs fpr 100 reps all in one set on the flat. that gives me a crazy painfull pump. I don't get pumps maxing out for 1-2reps. I have some powerlifting backround but never cared tp do deadlifts much. I still dp the these days but don't go super heavy when deadlifting 315 is what I usually deadlift for 6-8 reps. I spent mpre time benching then anything since I benched since I was 12 years old. I didn't do any other lifts till 14-16 years old.

I'll back my shit up with video if somebody knows how I can load these clips. I can't adjust them so they won't send anywhere I will just get that message. Image size to large and I can't find anyway to make it smaller
youtube account? Take a printscreen  from the lift and post it here atleast. That way people know atleast that there is a video
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: Core on October 28, 2015, 02:39:46 AM
at 5 foot 8 id say your arms are honestly about 16 inches man. sorry.

props on the progress though. big improvements so keep going and maybe you can get them to 18 plus.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 28, 2015, 04:34:33 AM
at 5 foot 8 id say your arms are honestly about 16 inches man. sorry.

props on the progress though. big improvements so keep going and maybe you can get them to 18 plus.

thanks for the props brother I do appreciate that alot.This did take alot of work mainly the weight loss. I don't lie about measurments.I also don;t lie about my flaws! I know what needs work! look at my waist that is legit 29IN waist, same with everything I claimed measurment wise.

 My phone I took those with sucks and no they are def not always 18IN that's fully pumped on juice on arms day.

I'm 5ft 6IN and tape measure dosn't lie! Def not 18IN cold but pumped on juice yes they get that big. I don't see why 18IN is so hard to believe. If you look at me from the side in the same time?day or next day you can see most of the size is in my tris. I had 16IN arms when I was 19yrs old. check out the side and the front is posted then try to imagine standing right next to me totally pumped. way bigger then 16IN.

I admit my bi's are a weak spot! My delts have come up alot but still narrow, My chest has come up alot. My chest is my stronger point. here look at the Tri shot and then look at my Bi's you can see they are bigger then 16IN and in decent condition. My bicep peaks are bigger looking in person you can see there not flat they round decently just bad pictures. 18IN not hard to hit. But they def are smaller cold just depends how pumped up my biceps are. if I do a bicep/tricep superset day they pump up to 18IN. They will grow bigger just like you said just wait.

You guys know I'm down to work hard. I did make progress in 2 months that is noticable and I did chart it all on here. If I was emabarrased about my physique I wouldn't post my pictures. I'm alot thicker in person just not good pics. at 5ft6IN and weighing 185lbs fairly lean that's not bad! my waist is 29IN , my measurments are not bad at all.

I am narrow but working on it. In the last year shaved off 6IN on my waist, maybe 7IN, lost 40-45lbs, kept a decent amount of muscle coming down from 230lbs. really fucked up my bulk last year. Got everything corrected and won't do that shit again. size game dosn't work for me .You guys probably think I fuck around alot but I put in alot of work this last year.

I'm off right now but when I go back on and start blasting grams and HGH depending what I can get I'll def post some more pics and I'll look way thicker and bigger. That was all on semi low dose with no HGH. The HGH I started during PCT, and next pics I'll have a   better phone. I made decent gains I documented here so I am down to work hard and it shows the improvments are there in 2 months you can def see a diffrence on just 800mg counting orals.

There are certain reasons why I am holding back on blasting gear right now. My body will respond better after a few months off. Nobody can really say I am out of shape! maybe not a mass monster like some of you expected but alot of this was during summer I like being more trim and weighing less during summer. In march I will be in pretty look alot diffrent. I have to do everything safely and slowly. everytime i eush to put on size i fuck it up and my BF% jumps. This last few months have been going better.

Sure I could start blasting grams of gear and HGH/insulin and get 240lbs at 5ft6In but it wouldn't look good at all! plus being that heavy at 5ft 6In is a nightmare. I was 230 last year and was not in awful shape but it was not comfortabe! That look in the pics where I am 185lbs I feel comfortable and my clothes fit. not my gym clothes but my dress clothes. I am used to wearing 32IN waist jeans even with a 29IN waist but last year that got out of hand my waist got huge. Plus it isn;t a awful look. I got the small waist going and am still holding some size. I do all this for myself but women like that look.


Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: XFACTOR on October 28, 2015, 07:36:14 PM
The 500 pound bench press video or bounce dude. Actually just one of you benching 4 plates. Actually I doubt you can do three plates twice.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: dj181 on October 28, 2015, 07:44:51 PM
dear gimp face, how does it feel knowing that this girl is on at least half the drugs you are on or ever have been and also looks 10x better than you and
all in 2-3 years. does it make you sick that she looks better than you ever did in your fucking life? you shitty fucking moron, should be bloody ashamed that this girl probably has more balls and smarts than you ever will to become and LOOK like a REAL bodybuilder unlike you ya fucking wanking wankered wanker. all drugs all talk no nothing, let me guess you can get more ripped than she can, right? its genetics right bro? yeah, in your fucking cooked out world it is, retard.

she's got great arms

if he got that ripped and dry i seriously doubt his arms would measure much more than 15 inches

he's either clueless or delusional or both with regards to how much "size" his arms would lose getting into that kind of condition, ad i'm 99 percent certain he's never had that level of conditioning in his entire life although i'm sure he'll claim that he has been lol  

Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: phreak on October 29, 2015, 12:37:12 AM
she's got great arms

if he got that ripped and dry i seriously doubt his arms would measure much more than 15 inches

he's either clueless or delusional or both with regards to how much "size" his arms would lose getting into that kind of condition, ad i'm 99 percent certain he's never had that level of conditioning in his entire life although i'm sure he'll claim that he has been lol  



The problem that fucks many people up is vascularity. They equate veins with gains. Unfortunately veins are purely genetic: either you have a tendency to show them or you don't. The dame above is a good example: dry as fuck for a woman, but almost no veins. On the other end of the spectrum there's me: last year I was at 28% bf (still close... :( ) and I had veins popping up on my obliques -- while still having a gut! Veins don't mean anything.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: dj181 on October 29, 2015, 01:05:37 AM
The problem that fucks many people up is vascularity. They equate veins with gains. Unfortunately veins are purely genetic: either you have a tendency to show them or you don't. The dame above is a good example: dry as fuck for a woman, but almost no veins. On the other end of the spectrum there's me: last year I was at 28% bf (still close... :( ) and I had veins popping up on my obliques -- while still having a gut! Veins don't mean anything.

wow, veins at  28% bf

i usually lose all forms of vascularity once i'm 12% lol

but you're right it's a genetic thing

Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: goku on October 29, 2015, 02:29:10 AM
The problem that fucks many people up is vascularity. They equate veins with gains. Unfortunately veins are purely genetic: either you have a tendency to show them or you don't. The dame above is a good example: dry as fuck for a woman, but almost no veins. On the other end of the spectrum there's me: last year I was at 28% bf (still close... :( ) and I had veins popping up on my obliques -- while still having a gut! Veins don't mean anything.

100% spot on.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: phreak on October 29, 2015, 03:17:56 AM
wow, veins at  28% bf

i usually lose all forms of vascularity once i'm 12% lol

but you're right it's a genetic thing



Yeah, obesity is a bitch. Plus beginning of this year I went from PL to strongman, rippling abs also not required. :P Good thing is that now I have to stop most lower body work due to serious arthritis in both knees, so now I will focus more on appearance, for the first time in 26 years. :D We'll see what we can do with this decrepit old body.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: pestosterone on October 29, 2015, 04:20:30 AM
That girl is hot mmm
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: njflex on October 29, 2015, 06:28:41 AM
as much as I do not like womens bbing,,she looks awesome,great lines,very clean lines,she did her homework while remaining feminine as well.that is a national level physique that should place high if she goes that far...
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 29, 2015, 07:59:50 AM
dear gimp face, how does it feel knowing that this girl is on at least half the drugs you are on or ever have been and also looks 10x better than you and
all in 2-3 years. does it make you sick that she looks better than you ever did in your fucking life? you shitty fucking moron, should be bloody ashamed that this girl probably has more balls and smarts than you ever will to become and LOOK like a REAL bodybuilder unlike you ya fucking wanking wankered wanker. all drugs all talk no nothing, let me guess you can get more ripped than she can, right? its genetics right bro? yeah, in your fucking cooked out world it is, retard.

LOl-you post a pic of yourself not some chick. she is shredded that's for sure. Your def ome UK guy wabker this wanker that what a lame vocabulary!
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 29, 2015, 08:04:31 AM
The problem that fucks many people up is vascularity. They equate veins with gains. Unfortunately veins are purely genetic: either you have a tendency to show them or you don't. The dame above is a good example: dry as fuck for a woman, but almost no veins. On the other end of the spectrum there's me: last year I was at 28% bf (still close... :( ) and I had veins popping up on my obliques -- while still having a gut! Veins don't mean anything.

I don't get veins unless I get semi-lean. No way in hell I would have veins like that at even 16%BF.

these are PCT pics what does that have to do with anything? I don;t feel like I have much to prove my waist shows at 29IN my arms are 18IN on arm day end of story. you gonna debate my waist is bigger as well? c'mon.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 29, 2015, 08:07:24 AM
she's got great arms

if he got that ripped and dry i seriously doubt his arms would measure much more than 15 inches

he's either clueless or delusional or both with regards to how much "size" his arms would lose getting into that kind of condition, ad i'm 99 percent certain he's never had that level of conditioning in his entire life although i'm sure he'll claim that he has been lol  



Nope I don"T THINK I have been that shredded.  My arms will hold plenty of size just watch. wait till I jump back on in 3-4 weeks.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: njflex on October 29, 2015, 08:38:35 AM
Nope I don"T THINK I have been that shredded.  My arms will hold plenty of size just watch. wait till I jump back on in 3-4 weeks.
WHEN YOUR THERE YOU WILL NO IT WW,,,YOU WILL FEEL LIKE DEATH AND SHRINK WRAPPED 'SKIN WISE'LIKE AN ANATOMY CHART..
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: phreak on October 29, 2015, 09:17:00 AM
I don't get veins unless I get semi-lean. No way in hell I would have veins like that at even 16%BF.

these are PCT pics what does that have to do with anything? I don;t feel like I have much to prove my waist shows at 29IN my arms are 18IN on arm day end of story. you gonna debate my waist is bigger as well? c'mon.
I won't be debating anything. A debate requires actual evidence, which is sorely lacking. So no point in debating anything. Everyone will form an opinion anyway.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: dj181 on October 29, 2015, 10:43:47 AM
Yeah, obesity is a bitch. Plus beginning of this year I went from PL to strongman, rippling abs also not required. :P Good thing is that now I have to stop most lower body work due to serious arthritis in both knees, so now I will focus more on appearance, for the first time in 26 years. :D We'll see what we can do with this decrepit old body.

sorry to hear about the arthritis man

you're a Dutch dude right? so speaking of Dutch strongmen do you remember Ted Van Der Parr?

dude was Dutch Diesel at seven foot tall and won it all back in the early nineties  8)
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: phreak on October 29, 2015, 11:19:15 AM
sorry to hear about the arthritis man

you're a Dutch dude right? so speaking of Dutch strongmen do you remember Ted Van Der Parr?

dude was Dutch Diesel at seven foot tall and won it all back in the early nineties  8)

Actually talked to him a few times this year. He's keeping busy as a referee for strongman meets. Was refereeing me at a meet this year, later I helped out with a meet where he refereed as well. Really nice guy, very relaxed. But strict! And doesn't play favourites at all. And giving everyone helpful tips, whether they are beginners or national level competitors. Really respect him as a person. He's shorter now from old age, but could still skullfuck my wife while she's standing.  :D
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: dj181 on October 29, 2015, 11:26:04 AM
Actually talked to him a few times this year. He's keeping busy as a referee for strongman meets. Was refereeing me at a meet this year, later I helped out with a meet where he refereed as well. Really nice guy, very relaxed. But strict! And doesn't play favourites at all. And giving everyone helpful tips, whether they are beginners or national level competitors. Really respect him as a person. He's shorter now from old age, but could still skullfuck my wife while she's standing.  :D

 ;D

cool stuff man, always figured he was a good dude  8)
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on October 31, 2015, 09:17:31 AM
I won't be debating anything. A debate requires actual evidence, which is sorely lacking. So no point in debating anything. Everyone will form an opinion anyway.

just by my pics you can tell my waist is 29IN. and I don't lie abut measuremnets.m You can easily look at somebody waistline and get a good idea 29IN.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: WOOO on October 31, 2015, 10:14:49 AM
just by my pics you can tell my waist is 29IN. and I don't lie abut measuremnets.m You can easily look at somebody waistline and get a good idea 29IN.


When you're off and thin yes. When you have 18 inch arms no. That's when you're fat.

I do not understand why you keep making these funny appeals. ....

500 lb bench pics plz. You also originally stayed 19 inch arms. Your height has varied from 5'5" to 5'7".

You rarely simply address your boasts with evidence. That's why no one believes you.

Please do not reply with the same 3 tired pics that fail to address your boasts.

You have 16 inch arms in the pics I've seen. You cannot bench press 315 lbs twice. You're 5'5" in bare feet.

Good luck
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on October 31, 2015, 10:30:23 AM
"what is wrong with you ? don't use language like that and I'm just sick of you putting down my efforts. I do know the guy I don't think he is using anything but TRT doses of Test. I know he has used greytops.

Your just done in that section any posts you make I am deleting. Your just all negative! give me a reason why I should let you post when all you do is put people efforts down and not even in a nice way! I can take people honst opinions but not the way you word things.

If you want to post please let me know why you try to be so negative al the time"

he gives me a weird vibe.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on October 31, 2015, 10:50:09 AM
btw ww hope your not planning on deleting the above ^^^^ ::)
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: Mranabolic on October 31, 2015, 12:12:33 PM
WW delete all , he delete mine post too

Sory but i cant put up with your lies andbullshit

Post whole body pic without shirt , photo of tape measure arm and video of 500 bench or get the fuck out

Fucking liars man ... U think we are idiots ? Only retards that never trained would beleive your claims

U are short and small i am 88 kg and i dwarf u and i am 1,78 meter not 1,60

So stop the bullshit pls man

Try speak truth and u see noone talk bad language at u

Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on October 31, 2015, 12:55:13 PM
WW delete all , he delete mine post too

Sory but i cant put up with your lies andbullshit

Post whole body pic without shirt , photo of tape measure arm and video of 500 bench or get the fuck out

Fucking liars man ... U think we are idiots ? Only retards that never trained would beleive your claims

U are short and small i am 88 kg and i dwarf u and i am 1,78 meter not 1,60

So stop the bullshit pls man

Try speak truth and u see noone talk bad language at u



I just saw that he deleted my pic comparison of him on page 2 compared to a young successful female bodybuilder in her mid 20's with larger and defined arms than he did post up. it was my post and there was no reasons at all for the deletion of it. obviously embarassed that she got bigger and leaner than he ever did or ever will. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR MISSURE WHITEWIDOW im gonna bring in da mods boy if you start deleting my shiza again.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on October 31, 2015, 01:09:55 PM
dear white widow i have a challenge for you, since you are a cokky boy and are certain you got a 29" waist and 18" arms at a low point BF. pick one of the pictures i posted and try THE BEST YOU CAN to the emulate in a picture of your very own the muscle mass and definition of this girls the best you possibly can. she is fair game since she is 5"5 and you are 5"6. i don't see why you would back down for such a simple challenge if you have 18" arms. or an 29" waist and striated triceps like you said so many times before. she then must be carrying some dry 9% 21" guns if yours fail to impress.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: WOOO on November 01, 2015, 01:41:28 AM
dear white widow i have a challenge for you, since you are a cokky boy and are certain you got a 29" waist and 18" arms at a low point BF. pick one of the pictures i posted and try THE BEST YOU CAN to the emulate in a picture of your very own the muscle mass and definition of this girls the best you possibly can. she is fair game since she is 5"5 and you are 5"6. i don't see why you would back down for such a simple challenge if you have 18" arms. or an 29" waist and striated triceps like you said so many times before. she then must be carrying some dry 9% 21" guns if yours fail to impress.


That's a rare woman who is still smoking hot with that much muscle. Wow
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on November 01, 2015, 01:55:06 AM
white widow is now probably using a couple grams of gear and taking insulin gh and t3 every day to try and prove to us that he is bigger and leaner than she is, a better pic than last time ww and not on your disposable cell phone.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: phreak on November 01, 2015, 02:42:42 AM
white widow is now probably using a couple grams of gear and taking insulin gh and t3 every day to try and prove to us that he is bigger and leaner than she is, a better pic than last time ww and not on your disposable cell phone.
The Rich Piana '30 pounds in 3 months' program.
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on November 01, 2015, 02:52:13 AM
30 pounds of solid fucking muscle, not fat, not water, fucking muscle
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: Mranabolic on November 01, 2015, 04:14:39 AM
30 pounds of solid fucking muscle, not fat, not water, fucking muscle

Hahaha i like u man

30 gallon of silicone for arm better ;-)
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on November 01, 2015, 04:31:20 AM
I bet white widow will soon be resorting to injections of synthol. what is wrong white widow? didn't those esiclene amps work well enough for you? or let me guess you just need some GH Insulin and stanozolol injected into each of your biceps to get em back to tip-top shape and give them some peaks while your at it. 8)
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: inseyeder on November 01, 2015, 04:45:01 AM
the white widow stack.

200mg vet winstrol
12iu kigtropin
50iu rapid-acting insulin post workout 1iu per 10 grams of carbohydrates
100mcg clen
125mcg t3
armidex 1mg
1g tren acetate
700mg test e

40mg lasix before hitting the beach

hcg nolva clomd for pct
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on November 02, 2015, 03:23:58 AM
the white widow stack.

200mg vet winstrol
12iu kigtropin
50iu rapid-acting insulin post workout 1iu per 10 grams of carbohydrates
100mcg clen
125mcg t3
armidex 1mg
1g tren acetate
700mg test e

40mg lasix before hitting the beach

hcg nolva clomd for pct

NO Ive always been stirring people away from jigtropin that is what Gh15 pushed on everybody. if it were a perfect world and we could get USA like we can chinese I would say USA all day. I don;t run anything close to that!

I will though soon. not that much HGH but I'll blast alot of stuff soon. That pic was taken on HGH 2IU and 100mcg T4
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on November 02, 2015, 03:25:55 AM
I bet white widow will soon be resorting to injections of synthol. what is wrong white widow? didn't those esiclene amps work well enough for you? or let me guess you just need some GH Insulin and stanozolol injected into each of your biceps to get em back to tip-top shape and give them some peaks while your at it. 8)

didn't use them yet I got 6 months! I can take a pic I still have them
Title: Re: WW's PCT pics
Post by: whitewidow on November 02, 2015, 03:37:35 AM
dear white widow i have a challenge for you, since you are a cokky boy and are certain you got a 29" waist and 18" arms at a low point BF. pick one of the pictures i posted and try THE BEST YOU CAN to the emulate in a picture of your very own the muscle mass and definition of this girls the best you possibly can. she is fair game since she is 5"5 and you are 5"6. i don't see why you would back down for such a simple challenge if you have 18" arms. or an 29" waist and striated triceps like you said so many times before. she then must be carrying some dry 9% 21" guns if yours fail to impress.

It's a PCT thread! why the hell would I do all that?  How big is my waist then? you go ahead and put up my measurements.