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Bernie wins Indiana making sure this thing goes to convention.
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Pwned
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Good, the miserable son of bitch.
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Can someone remind me who exactly decided the actual candidates that will be "fighting" for the throne to begin with (aside Trump, who simply used his money to become a candidate)?
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I think this story actually crashed twitter. Down for you guys?
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Just gonna leave this here for 240 and TA...
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278366-poll-trump-has-2-point-lead-over-clinton
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first a black president, now a woman
Thanks Bush
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Just gonna leave this here for 240 and TA...
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278366-poll-trump-has-2-point-lead-over-clinton
Why for me?
I believe Trump would DESTROY Hillary Clinton and I will vote for Trump for sure or not vote at all rather than Hillary. I still am not sure Hillary is going to make it. That indictment is coming and when it does, it will come hard.
Bernie is the only candidate who can actually beat Trump.
Regardless, please do not mention my name with Hillary Clinton ever again. If there is one person in this world that I wish was gone, it just might be her. That is how disgusting I think she is.
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first a black president, now a woman
Thanks Bush
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Its not going to happen. Trump can easily defeat her. If Bernie is not running, keep in mind that 30-60 percent of us Bernie supporters WILL NOT vote for her. No way she can win anything without that support.
She is finished. Anyways, she better be ready for that mugshot, that indictment will happen.
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Lol @ 'so this just happened.' What a circus.
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Bernie in the end could win more states than Hillary and because of super delegates he wouldn't get it. It's interesting the back grounds of many of the super delegates. Many of them are lobbyists for major corporations. I'm not even a Democrat and I'm outraged at the fix for Hillary in the Democratic party.
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Hillary or Trump. That's it, that is the choice. Choose. No more clutching your pearls or hiding behind the ice machine.
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Hillary or Trump. That's it, that is the choice. Choose. No more clutching your pearls or hiding behind the ice machine.
"Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil" JG.
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AMERICA IS FUCKED
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"Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil" JG.
Beautiful.
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"Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil" JG.
This describes every election around the world.
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Hillary will never see a day in court due to bengazi / email scandal..
She is very well protected..
Trump vs. Hillary..
It's about to get crazy...
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Hillary will never see a day in court due to bengazi / email scandal..
She is very well protected..
Trump vs. Hillary..
It's about to get crazy...
We are fucked either way. Both terrible. At least with trump we have the possibility of watching liberal SJWs meltdown for 4 years at everything he says.
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Trump will undo eight years of Obama stupidity within 6 months of becoming POTUS.
The 'brew gravy train is going to come to an abrupt halt.
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Whomever is sitting in the office of the POTUS, will follow the script just like every other President since Kennedy. It's time you people wake up smell the Coffee. "They" already know who the President will be. They're just selling it you. If you can't see that by now, you're not very smart.
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Whomever is sitting in the office of the POTUS, will follow the script just like every other President since Kennedy. It's time you people wake up smell the Coffee. "They" already know who the President will be. They're just selling it you. If you can't see that by now, you're not very smart.
Trump '16!!
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Whomever is sitting in the office of the POTUS, will follow the script just like every other President since Kennedy. It's time you people wake up smell the Coffee. "They" already know who the President will be. They're just selling it you. If you can't see that by now, you're not very smart.
Nibooboo has spoken.
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"Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil" JG.
Jerry Garcia was a drug addicted idiot. And while even a broken clock is right twice a day, a drug addicted idiot is worthless. JG was and remains, worthless. I don't even care for the Dead's music as I find it laced with stupidity.
Just sayin'... ;D
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Jerry Garcia was a drug addicted idiot. And while even a broken clock is right twice a day, a drug addicted idiot is worthless. JG was and remains, worthless. I don't even care for the Dead's music as I find it laced with stupidity.
Just sayin'... ;D
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Its not going to happen. Trump can easily defeat her. If Bernie is not running, keep in mind that 30-60 percent of us Bernie supporters WILL NOT vote for her. No way she can win anything without that support.
She is finished. Anyways, she better be ready for that mugshot, that indictment will happen.
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Trump has famously said, when he comes up against her, he has LOTS of stuff to tell on her!!!
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Trump has famously said, when he comes up against her, he has LOTS of stuff to tell on her!!!
this is the funny thing.... Trump has all this dirt on hilary because he was rolling around in the mud with her.
If anything, he has MORE dirt on him because most of what she did was on govt watch with plenty of oversight, and much of what he did was completely secret and protected by his corporations. Renting tents to Kadaffi, etc. We never get to hear a fraction of what he's done, who he's worked with over the years.
He brags about bribing public officials in order to gain advantage for 50 years of his life... suddenly he's magically changed, huh? I still think he's in the race to make sure Hilary takes the white house. You don't change your stripes in your 60s, particularly without any religious revelation. Just decides one day to be a republican, huh? I'm not falling for it.
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You can't find dirt on Trump lol. He will expose his own dirt and brag about it, and his supporters will love him for it.
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this is the funny thing.... Trump has all this dirt on hilary because he was rolling around in the mud with her.
If anything, he has MORE dirt on him because most of what she did was on govt watch with plenty of oversight, and much of what he did was completely secret and protected by his corporations. Renting tents to Kadaffi, etc. We never get to hear a fraction of what he's done, who he's worked with over the years.
He brags about bribing public officials in order to gain advantage for 50 years of his life... suddenly he's magically changed, huh? I still think he's in the race to make sure Hilary takes the white house. You don't change your stripes in your 60s, particularly without any religious revelation. Just decides one day to be a republican, huh? I'm not falling for it.
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You can't find dirt on Trump lol. He will expose his own dirt and brag about it, and his supporters will love him for it.
Yes, in the republican primary. They also loved Sarah Palin and considered her to be brilliant and competent.
In the national election, when you have to win over soccer moms, will it still work? Or can he move to being all dignified all of a sudden?
47% always votes Dem, and 47% always votes Republican. That middle 6% (undecided/swing voters) decides every election. They chose clinton, Bush, then obama. They'll pick the winner.
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Great news
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We're fucked either way. Killary and her coattail Bill is an active member of the Bilderburg and the only one running for prez....just like Obama. Even though libs have zero commonsense, have their heads up their own asses and can't argue actual policy to save their lives, the lib repubs killed this country even more. Welcome to the third Obama term. Way to fuck this country in the ass even more.
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We're fucked either way. Killary and her coattail Bill is an active member of the Bilderburg and the only one running for prez....just like Obama. Even though libs have zero commonsense, have their heads up their own asses and can't argue actual policy to save their lives, the lib repubs killed this country even more. Welcome to the third Obama term. Way to fuck this country in the ass even more.
For their entire adult lives, Trump and Hilary were about the same ideology/beliefs. We're talking age 18 to 60s.
Then, Obama gets elected. hilary stays on that path to become Sec of State, and Trump adopts an anti-obama position on everything to win the republican support.
Trump isn't conservative. He says crazy things ALL THE TIME and really doesn't seem to be able to control himself. Today he accused the father of a presidential candidate of helping to assassinate JFK. I mean, that's perhaps the biggest accusation about JFK in over 50 years... and Trump is willing to just casually accuse him of treason and murder because... well, someone in a pic from 1963 looks like him.
I cannot wrap my mind around it. A US President accusing a civilian of helping to take out JFK... and it's just another day of crazy talk for Trump. I cannot believe the republican base didn't stop Trump. They let the tea party get too big, too crazy. Rand, walker, rubio, they were all perfectly conservative options. Nope, they choose the dude who accuses civilians of treason, just for kicks. It's crazy. But he' great for ratings, right? ;)
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Good, the miserable son of bitch.
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Cruz accidentally punches and elbows his wife after losing :(
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Now that Ted Cruz is no longer a presidential candidate...I visualize all his fellow Senators passing out bars of Ivory soap and athletic socks to prepare for Ted's return to the Senate Chambers.
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Whomever is sitting in the office of the POTUS, will follow the script just like every other President since Kennedy. It's time you people wake up smell the Coffee. "They" already know who the President will be. They're just selling it you. If you can't see that by now, you're not very smart.
Then please explain how sampling/polls can predict the winner with a small margin of error. That's it, they survey a bunch of people, they make sure the sample is representative, and they make inference from the data. How can that work if the election is rigged?
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Now that Ted Cruz is no longer a presidential candidate...I visualize all his fellow Senators passing out bars of Ivory soap and athletic socks to prepare for Ted's return to the Senate Chambers.
Lol. He was no longer a presidential candidate months ago but he clung on like a loser who couldn't accept defeat.
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Trump vs. Hillary..
It's about to get crazy...
A lose/lose situation. Even though it doesn't really matter who is president anyways. We've been fucked for a very long time...
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Trump has said so much crazy shit in the past year. And people don't care. When words and accusations don't matter anymore... Well, trump is a direct reflection of the people doing the voting.
Those loyal trump supporters will not be swayed no matter what negative things he says, what leaders he alienates, what people he accuses of jfk involvement.
They're not drawn to logic, they have no cutoff point. He's their guy, and nothing he says in the next 6 months can ever change that.
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There's no way I'd ever vote for Hillary. EVER! Trump is nuts and divisive. I'd still rather have him than the liar, thief, murderer, dike, feminist, hillary.
If she somehow wins, I hope white people go nuts and burn this m o t h e r f u c k e r down.
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There's no way I'd ever vote for Hillary. EVER! Trump is nuts and divisive. I'd still rather have him than the liar, thief, murderer, dike, feminist, hillary.
If she somehow wins, I hope white people go nuts and burn this guy down.
If Hillary goes and picks a female running mate she is going to doom herself. She'll alienate a big part of the male voting base in her party. She needs to pick a popular male running mate to keep things even. No one wants an all old lesbian female government in America.
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the only part of trump winning is the hopes of this whores spread leg nudes , some of his wife's too
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the only part of trump winning is the hopes of this whores spread leg nudes , some of his wife's too
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Yup. Makes about as much sense as your post.
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the only part of trump winning is the hopes of this whores spread leg nudes , some of his wife's too
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I like that tall blonde whore over his left shoulder. Is she a trump or married to one of his boys?
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Bernie destroys Trump head to head in polls. And Hillary loses to Trump head to head. Do you forsee Bernie somehow getting the nomination over Hillary?
https://www.rt.com/usa/341798-indiana-upset-sanders-trump-clinton/
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Whomever is sitting in the office of the POTUS, will follow the script just like every other President since Kennedy. It's time you people wake up smell the Coffee. "They" already know who the President will be. They're just selling it you. If you can't see that by now, you're not very smart.
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Whomever is sitting in the office of the POTUS, will follow the script just like every other President since Kennedy. It's time you people wake up smell the Coffee. "They" already know who the President will be. They're just selling it you. If you can't see that by now, you're not very smart.
Why is Coffee capitalized ????????
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as much as I abhor hillary (i'm not a republican btw---she's just a horrible human being) I have come to accept that she was gonna be president years ago
this election is a huge "dog and pony" show ....well, at least a bigger "dog and pony" show that usual at least
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Yes, in the republican primary. They also loved Sarah Palin and considered her to be brilliant and competent.
In the national election, when you have to win over soccer moms, will it still work? Or can he move to being all dignified all of a sudden?
47% always votes Dem, and 47% always votes Republican. That middle 6% (undecided/swing voters) decides every election. They chose clinton, Bush, then obama. They'll pick the winner.
Every time it comes up for an actual vote, the people choose to be hardline on immigration. Even in liberal spots like CA.
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We're fucked either way. Killary and her coattail Bill is an active member of the Bilderburg and the only one running for prez....just like Obama. Even though libs have zero commonsense, have their heads up their own asses and can't argue actual policy to save their lives, the lib repubs killed this country even more. Welcome to the third Obama term. Way to fuck this country in the ass even more.
This whole thread is a troll to get Coach to state his position on whether he'll back Hillary or Trump.
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Why is Coffee capitalized ????????
Lol. I fucked up. On my phone.
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For their entire adult lives, Trump and Hilary were about the same ideology/beliefs. We're talking age 18 to 60s.
Then, Obama gets elected. hilary stays on that path to become Sec of State, and Trump adopts an anti-obama position on everything to win the republican support.
Trump isn't conservative. He says crazy things ALL THE TIME and really doesn't seem to be able to control himself. Today he accused the father of a presidential candidate of helping to assassinate JFK. I mean, that's perhaps the biggest accusation about JFK in over 50 years... and Trump is willing to just casually accuse him of treason and murder because... well, someone in a pic from 1963 looks like him.
I cannot wrap my mind around it. A US President accusing a civilian of helping to take out JFK... and it's just another day of crazy talk for Trump. I cannot believe the republican base didn't stop Trump. They let the tea party get too big, too crazy. Rand, walker, rubio, they were all perfectly conservative options. Nope, they choose the dude who accuses civilians of treason, just for kicks. It's crazy. But he' great for ratings, right? ;)
And yet he always voted republican and even campaigned for Reagan... ::) "But he's not conservative enough!" NOBODY CARES!
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Lol. I fucked up. On my phone.
Blame Obama for giving out shitty Iphone 5C to the poor.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-illma-gore_us_5727b7efe4b0f309baf1a0ed (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-illma-gore_us_5727b7efe4b0f309baf1a0ed)
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This whole thread is a troll to get Coach to state his position on whether he'll back Hillary or Trump.
Probably. But I would NEVER vote for someone with a (D) in front of their name. We're fucked either way it's just a matter of who's going to fuck us less.
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Probably. But I would NEVER vote for someone with a (D) in front of their name. We're fucked either way it's just a matter of who's going to fuck us less.
Imagine voting for Trump/kasich. That's about as (D) as you can get ;)
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Probably. But I would NEVER vote for someone with a (D) in front of their name. We're fucked either way it's just a matter of who's going to fuck us less.
Coach, please do your research on Mr. Trump. I have never heard of someone who knew all the facts and still disliked him, he is the real deal.
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"Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil" JG.
Excellent!
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We are fucked either way. Both terrible. At least with trump we have the possibility of watching liberal SJWs meltdown for 4 years at everything he says.
Since the President does not have the power to do what Trumps says he's going to do, he will severely disappoint the populace who have supported him.
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Trump will undo eight years of Obama stupidity within 6 months of becoming POTUS.
The 'brew gravy train is going to come to an abrupt halt.
We'll see. I believe you are absolutely wrong about this.
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Whomever is sitting in the office of the POTUS, will follow the script just like every other President since Kennedy. It's time you people wake up smell the Coffee. "They" already know who the President will be. They're just selling it you. If you can't see that by now, you're not very smart.
Substitute the word puppet for Potus and you've written the truth.
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Trump is the man
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We'll see. I believe you are absolutely wrong about this.
I believe you suck cock and I hope you die soon.
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I believe you suck cock and I hope you die soon.
Lol! ;D
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Jerry Garcia was a drug addicted idiot. And while even a broken clock is right twice a day, a drug addicted idiot is worthless. JG was and remains, worthless. I don't even care for the Dead's music as I find it laced with stupidity.
Just sayin'... ;D
Many believe Jerry Garcia was brought into the CIA. The Grateful Dead and it's following just may have been a CIA experiment...
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Imagine voting for Trump/kasich. That's about as (D) as you can get ;)
There's some talk of Trump/Rubio. Even with all their back and forth trolling each, many believe Trump may just bring him aboard. Rubio is good at ripping apart Clinton...
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I believe you suck cock and I hope you die soon.
excellent post
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Since the President does not have the power to do what Trumps says he's going to do, he will severely disappoint the populace who have supported him.
He has the power on day one to rescind the executive orders on immigration allowing 5+ million to be considered legally present and get benefits, drivers licenses, and all other manner of largesse.
And he has repeatedly said he would do that. The other side will expand it. That's all I need.
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INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. – For the past week, Carly Fiorina was one of the most talked about people in politics. Ted Cruz formally named Fiorina as his vice presidential running mate last Wednesday, and she spent the week campaigning with the Texas senator all across Indiana.
But less than 24 hours after Cruz announced he was dropping out of the race, no one seems to care about Fiorina anymore.
Or at least, that’s the way this picture appears.
Edward Lawrence tweeted this picture (courtesy of Steve Handelsman) from the Indianapolis International Airport around 10:35 a.m. The picture shows Fiorina standing with her luggage by herself and looking at her phone.
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INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. – For the past week, Carly Fiorina was one of the most talked about people in politics. Ted Cruz formally named Fiorina as his vice presidential running mate last Wednesday, and she spent the week campaigning with the Texas senator all across Indiana.
But less than 24 hours after Cruz announced he was dropping out of the race, no one seems to care about Fiorina anymore.
Or at least, that’s the way this picture appears.
Edward Lawrence tweeted this picture (courtesy of Steve Handelsman) from the Indianapolis International Airport around 10:35 a.m. The picture shows Fiorina standing with her luggage by herself and looking at her phone.
As usual from you. No link to the source.
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As usual from you. No link to the source.
WTF? It's on social media, dude.
google a single line of it and find it, if you really want it. It's just a pic with a few lines of text. '
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WTF? It's on social media, dude.
google a single line of it and find it, if you really want it. It's just a pic with a few lines of text. '
So you can post the entire artical but no the link it came from??
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So you can post the entire artical but no the link it came from??
http://fox59.com/2016/05/04/what-a-difference-a-day-makes-carly-fiorina-spotted-by-herself-at-indy-airport/
it's a local FOX station sharing a tweet. Not a huge story, just an interesting end to a silly week for Fiorino.
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http://fox59.com/2016/05/04/what-a-difference-a-day-makes-carly-fiorina-spotted-by-herself-at-indy-airport/
it's a local FOX station sharing a tweet. Not a huge story, just an interesting end to a silly week for Fiorino.
See, that wasn't hard now was it? So it's not a big story but you're still trolling and posting it as if it were? Shill.
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See, that wasn't hard now was it? So it's not a big story but you're still trolling and posting it as if it were? Shill.
Call me another name. I dare you.
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Call me another name. I dare you.
Call me another name. I dare you.
Lib....go ahead. Deny it.
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Lib....go ahead. Deny it.
Okay. You started it.
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Okay. You started it.
Oh I see. NOW lib is a bad word. lol
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Okay. You started it.
No i didn't, you did a Loong time ago by saying you were republican when most of your posts and threads contradict what you professed. You remember, things like "I drove my family to the polls to vote for Obama. Are you trying to tell us that you got your family to vote Obama and you voted the other way?
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Call me another name. I dare you.
Sorry dude, that's the way I see it as with many others. It's almost like you're an Extention of MSNBC, Mother Jones, CNN all rapped into one.
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INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. – For the past week, Carly Fiorina was one of the most talked about people in politics. Ted Cruz formally named Fiorina as his vice presidential running mate last Wednesday, and she spent the week campaigning with the Texas senator all across Indiana.
But less than 24 hours after Cruz announced he was dropping out of the race, no one seems to care about Fiorina anymore.
Or at least, that’s the way this picture appears.
Edward Lawrence tweeted this picture (courtesy of Steve Handelsman) from the Indianapolis International Airport around 10:35 a.m. The picture shows Fiorina standing with her luggage by herself and looking at her phone.
I wonder if she had to eat a booger to seal the pact with Melty Dracula. Not exactly the way she thought she'd be heading back to CA, on a commercial flight with her career in shambles and her tail between her legs.
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There's some talk of Trump/Rubio. Even with all their back and forth trolling each, many believe Trump may just bring him aboard. Rubio is good at ripping apart Clinton...
no way trump chooses an ugly person. huntsman would be great. rubio is great, brings a swing state. Kasich is acceptable.
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Sorry dude, that's the way I see it as with many others. It's almost like you're an Extention of MSNBC, Mother Jones, CNN all rapped into one.
i said obama should be impeached for being illegal, cause I think he is, and I was a birther long before you were.
And i call Trump a complete liberal democrat plant. Will you call Trump the same?
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Illegals and leftists quaking in their boots. LOL
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The Birther Vote.
in 2010, 44% of repubs didn't believe Obama was born in the USA.
in 2012, Trump made himself their voice.
In 2016, Trump won with.... guess what.... 40% of the votes (and it'll be 43 or 44% after the last few states).
Trump won because he's the birther in the race. He'll end up with about 44% of repubs' votes, and not coincidentally, about 44% of repubs think obama was born in Kenya. He branded himself for 6 years as THE birther leader, and he won the nomination because of it.
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The Birther Vote.
in 2010, 44% of repubs didn't believe Obama was born in the USA.
in 2012, Trump made himself their voice.
In 2016, Trump won with.... guess what.... 40% of the votes (and it'll be 43 or 44% after the last few states).
Trump won because he's the birther in the race. He'll end up with about 44% of repubs' votes, and not coincidentally, about 44% of repubs think obama was born in Kenya. He branded himself for 6 years as THE birther leader, and he won the nomination because of it.
There's a lot more to it then that.
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There's a lot more to it then that.
true. but it's pretty interesting. And more interesting is that the birther idea originally came from HILARY in 2008.
Her wedding buddy used an issue she intro'd, in order to neutreutral the GOP potentials and give her a double digit lead in the general election. All just a coincidence, huh? ;)
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Former Mexican president apologized to Trump the same day Trump told him to get his money ready. Lol. This is some.of the funniest stuff I've heard in a while.
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true. but it's pretty interesting. And more interesting is that the birther idea originally came from HILARY in 2008.
Her wedding buddy used an issue she intro'd, in order to neutreutral the GOP potentials and give her a double digit lead in the general election. All just a coincidence, huh? ;)
You used to be such a great poster. WTF happened to you?
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Former Mexican president apologized to Trump the same day Trump told him to get his money ready. Lol. This is some.of the funniest stuff I've heard in a while.
He apologized for using vulgar language.
Not his message.
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He apologized for using vulgar language.
Not his message.
What is his message again? I was trying to listen to him speak last night and I couldn't understand what the hell he was saying.
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He apologized for using vulgar language.
Not his message.
I just caught a snippet of it that was going around.
Sonhe apologized for swearing and then he wanted Trump to apologize for what? ;D
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"Birther" should be considered an insult, LOL!
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He apologized for using vulgar language.
Not his message.
Don't sugarcoat it or you'll eat that too. He's already doing damage control because they know that he's going to be the next president of the United States.
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Don't sugarcoat it or you'll eat that too. He's already doing damage control because they know that he's going to be the next president of the United States.
today, trump pissed off the base by saying he wants to tax the top 1% MORE... after promising to reduce them 14.6%.
Today, trump pissed of the libs by saying he's still planning to deport 4% of the US population.
What is he doing? He's trying to give hilary the white house. Plain and simple.
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Pretty big list of repubs who have said they won't support/endorse Trump for president. Includes both bushes, romney, etc.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=610202.0
Paul ryan just punked his ass too!
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Mrs cliton is going to.be president now. I hope you Trump voting Hicks are happy..
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Like I said, it's all scripted to give an illusion of choice.
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Mrs cliton is going to.be president now. I hope you Trump voting Hicks are happy..
This is far from over. Watch.
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Whomever is sitting in the office of the POTUS, will follow the script just like every other President since Kennedy. It's time you people wake up smell the Coffee. "They" already know who the President will be. They're just selling it you. If you can't see that by now, you're not very smart.
Incorrect use of ”whomever” ::)
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Pretty big list of repubs who have said they won't support/endorse Trump for president. Includes both bushes, romney, etc.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=610202.0
Paul ryan just punked his ass too!
Who cares? If anything that only make a him a better choice because they all suck.
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The Birther Vote.
in 2010, 44% of repubs didn't believe Obama was born in the USA.
in 2012, Trump made himself their voice.
In 2016, Trump won with.... guess what.... 40% of the votes (and it'll be 43 or 44% after the last few states).
Trump won because he's the birther in the race. He'll end up with about 44% of repubs' votes, and not coincidentally, about 44% of repubs think obama was born in Kenya. He branded himself for 6 years as THE birther leader, and he won the nomination because of it.
You couldn't lie straight in bed.
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Like I said, it's all scripted to give an illusion of choice.
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today, trump pissed off the base by saying he wants to tax the top 1% MORE... after promising to reduce them 14.6%.
Today, trump pissed of the libs by saying he's still planning to deport 4% of the US population.
What is he doing? He's trying to give hilary the white house. Plain and simple.
He's just proving that people are idiots. People hear crap about deporting that 4% and think it's a good start. They don't realize that's Trump saying we would simply be following the law Obama put in place but intentionally underfunded.
Neither is good but I still dislike Hillary more.
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imagine 11 million people being removed by police from their homes, all over the USA>
They're all shipped over the border to massive, unpoliced "border towns" right on the other side of this massive wall. no police, no electricity, no running water. Just people raping and killing each other, resorting to cannibalism and tweeting it. These "wall cities" would be the closest thing to the Walking Dead lawlessness that we'd ever see in our lifetimes. Families arriving with a change of clothes and a "good luck!" and being ejected into the desert.
Imagine the massive global coverage of it. imagine all of the possible side effects. Disease, whore houses, crime. imagine people just plain blowing up/burning the wall, or building a 31-foot ladder to defeat a 30 foot wall. No water, no utilities... nobody to even bury the dead.
11 million people require a LOT of resources that won't be there. Imagine when all that boils over.
I don't think many Trump "wall supporters" have thought about the look, the smell, the violence... 11 million Americans ejected into the desert to die, basically. I bet a few of them would rather shoot it out on US soil than go to one of those hell cities. One hole in that wall, and millions of starving, desperate people flood into american cities. Border patrol firing on starving americans trying to get back in. Imagine the mess it'd be.
Will never happen. And you probably know it too.
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@ 240,
There isn't enough money to deport 11 Million illegals and no one is going to commit political suicide through changing DAPA (sp?) or denying citizenship to children of illegals or removing the fast track for Cubans.
It's people's unwillingness to admit that immigration is taking away jobs and opportunity away from American citizens, is the issue. Places sponsoring visas in situations where a citizen can fill that position should pay a fine, for example.
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imagine 11 million people being removed by police from their homes, all over the USA>
They're all shipped over the border to massive, unpoliced "border towns" right on the other side of this massive wall. no police, no electricity, no running water. Just people raping and killing each other, resorting to cannibalism and tweeting it. These "wall cities" would be the closest thing to the Walking Dead lawlessness that we'd ever see in our lifetimes. Families arriving with a change of clothes and a "good luck!" and being ejected into the desert.
What in the world are you talking about man. World war z much?
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imagine 11 million people being removed by police from their homes, all over the USA>
They're all shipped over the border to massive, unpoliced "border towns" right on the other side of this massive wall. no police, no electricity, no running water. Just people raping and killing each other, resorting to cannibalism and tweeting it. These "wall cities" would be the closest thing to the Walking Dead lawlessness that we'd ever see in our lifetimes. Families arriving with a change of clothes and a "good luck!" and being ejected into the desert.
Imagine the massive global coverage of it. imagine all of the possible side effects. Disease, whore houses, crime. imagine people just plain blowing up/burning the wall, or building a 31-foot ladder to defeat a 30 foot wall. No water, no utilities... nobody to even bury the dead.
11 million people require a LOT of resources that won't be there. Imagine when all that boils over.
I don't think many Trump "wall supporters" have thought about the look, the smell, the violence... 11 million Americans ejected into the desert to die, basically. I bet a few of them would rather shoot it out on US soil than go to one of those hell cities. One hole in that wall, and millions of starving, desperate people flood into american cities. Border patrol firing on starving americans trying to get back in. Imagine the mess it'd be.
Will never happen. And you probably know it too.
This sounds like a Jason Blaha fan fiction story.
Good thing they will all be live tweeting it from their iPhones. ::) ::) ::)
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Like I said, it's all scripted to give an illusion of choice.
Democracy died when the big money elite realized they can just buy the election. The whole voting process is a farce and waste of time.
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Rudy Guiliani is going to be in charge of the Department of Homeland Security. He'll get er done.
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Rudy Guiliani is going to be in charge of the Department of Homeland Security. He'll get er done.
If Trump was smart he'd go with a diverse cabinet of people from all over. It would actually please a lot of people. If he decides to go all NY Goombas then I don't see him lasting 4 years.
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If Trump was smart he'd go with a diverse cabinet of people from all over. It would actually please a lot of people. If he decides to go all NY Goombas then I don't see him lasting 4 years.
yet Obama lasted 8 years in, what would be believed, a widely racist nation.
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This is far from over. Watch.
The level of dirt they have on trump is just about to be unleashed.
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The level of dirt they have on trump is just about to be unleashed.
what about Hillary's skeletons.... literally. :D
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Trump said wed PM that he still plans on deporting 11 million amercans.
where do they go? They cannot be absorbed into mexican cities. They'll be in tent cities right against the border wall.
Now, I think the idea is completely impossible... but MANY people think it'll really happen. THey should imagine what that actually looks like.
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Trump said wed PM that he still plans on deporting 11 million amercans.
where do they go? They cannot be absorbed into mexican cities. They'll be in tent cities right against the border wall.
Now, I think the idea is completely impossible... but MANY people think it'll really happen. THey should imagine what that actually looks like.
Out of sight, out of mind. :)
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yet Obama lasted 8 years in, what would be believed, a widely racist nation.
Yes but he didn't have dirty Mexicans mad at him.
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Out of sight, out of mind. :)
LOL! not in this information age. tweets and helicopter views of the tent cities. the violence would be nuts. just getting them out of the country would be a disaster.
of course, it's completely unrealistic. Trump says many unrealistic things, daily.
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LOL! not in this information age. tweets and helicopter views of the tent cities. the violence would be nuts. just getting them out of the country would be a disaster.
of course, it's completely unrealistic. Trump says many unrealistic things, daily.
We're a vapid people and would get over it quickly.
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what about Hillary's skeletons.... literally. :D
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Pretty big list of repubs who have said they won't support/endorse Trump for president. Includes both bushes, romney, etc.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=610202.0
Paul ryan just punked his ass too!
Here's some prominent Rs who bend the knee:
https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/05/06/10-prominent-republicans-who-evolved-to-back-trump/
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Did your mother even have any children she wanted? Thought so.
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Did your mother even have any children she wanted? Thought so.
hehe HTexan is a complete goombah.
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Did your mother even have any children she wanted? Thought so.
:D
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Did your mother even have any children she wanted? Thought so.
Nope. But I hear you survived your mom's abortion attempt. That is why you're such a retard. :D
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Trump said wed PM that he still plans on deporting 11 million amercans.
where do they go? They cannot be absorbed into mexican cities. They'll be in tent cities right against the border wall.
Now, I think the idea is completely impossible... but MANY people think it'll really happen. THey should imagine what that actually looks like.
They're already causing enough problems here, and they cost tax payers billions of dollars every year. We shouldn't have to deal with that anymore. It's a disgrace that this is even an argument, they are by definition, criminals. They have to go back, and if they want to come back, they must do so LEGALLY. Enough is enough and we're sick of it! We're either a country with borders or no country at all!
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They're already causing enough problems here, and they cost tax payers billions of dollars every year. We shouldn't have to deal with that anymore. It's a disgrace that this is even an argument, they are by definition, criminals. They have to go back, and if they want to come back, they must do so LEGALLY. Enough is enough and we're sick of it! We're either a country with borders or no country at all!
Please describe the process of 11 million people being forcefully pulled from 50 states and sent back. How long does it take? What is the cost? How many of these 11 million go into hiding, open fire, or fight it in court?
And the wall? Why doesn't a 41 foot ladder stop a 40 foot wall? What happens when mexicans blow holes in the wall every day, or start massive fires, throwing molotov cocktails over into the usa? Does mexico really pay for it? Does congress really let it happen?
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Please describe the process of 11 million people being forcefully pulled from 50 states and sent back. How long does it take? What is the cost? How many of these 11 million go into hiding, open fire, or fight it in court?
And the wall? Why doesn't a 41 foot ladder stop a 40 foot wall? What happens when mexicans blow holes in the wall every day, or start massive fires, throwing molotov cocktails over into the usa? Does mexico really pay for it? Does congress really let it happen?
If they really want to be out there like savages risking hurting themselves over some bullshit like throwing Molotov cocktails I say more power too them.
While they are using 1930s tactics we could just as easily be fucking them up with technology. Drones 5000 feet up and various other counter strike attacks.
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If they really want to be out there like savages risking hurting themselves over some bullshit like throwing Molotov cocktails I say more power too them.
While they are using 1930s tactics we could just as easily be fucking them up with technology. Drones 5000 feet up and various other counter strike attacks.
we're talking about 11 million people already living in US cities, from Anchorage to NYC to Idaho. Drones at 5000 feet cannot stop them.
Extracting 11 million people is beyond a logistical nightmare. The ripples from it are incalculable, both before and after they're deported. I'm all for mining the fck out of the border and letting the illegals get blown sky high. But trump promising to pull 4-5% of our population and sending them to live in tent cities in the desert is a big lie, and he knows it.
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Trump is living the American dream, comng up from some nobody, to building a multibillion dollar business, to being a nominee for president of the United States.
Why wouldn't the repubs want to support him? Maybe they fear what they can't control? :D
Ask yourself, how pissed off are the American people that they would support and vote for a guy with literally zero political experience for president over any other offerings of the repub party? LOL
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we're talking about 11 million people already living in US cities, from Anchorage to NYC to Idaho. Drones at 5000 feet cannot stop them.
Extracting 11 million people is beyond a logistical nightmare. The ripples from it are incalculable, both before and after they're deported. I'm all for mining the fck out of the border and letting the illegals get blown sky high. But trump promising to pull 4-5% of our population and sending them to live in tent cities in the desert is a big lie, and he knows it.
I was referencing the last part of your post.
I like the fact that we don't even have to send humans out there. We're literally fucking them up with technology.
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Nope. But I hear you survived your mom's abortion attempt. That is why you're such a retard. :D
You kind of just reworded his joke but that's fine.
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Trump is living the American dream,[/b comng up from some nobody[/b], to building a multibillion dollar business, to being a nominee for president of the United States.
Why wouldn't the repubs want to support him?
Trump was worth tens of millions of dollars when he was born. His dad left him between 1 and 80 million bucks (the number varies when the story is told), to build his empire, which should be worth 8bil alone if only sitting in mutual funds for 60 years. It's not worth that much, so this silver spoon baby has underperformed and been a lifelong liberal supporting everything wrong with Washington for 60 years...
I forget, why do repubs love him again?
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Ask yourself, how pissed off are the American people that they would support and vote for a guy with literally zero political experience for president over any other offerings of the repub party? LOL
Perot led in polls at one point, before dropping out and flaking. Palin was their sweetheart for a small while, until everyone realized how ignorant she was. Carson led in polls this time, and Cain led last time.
Repubublicans have a long history of loving the outsider candidate, with zero to minimal political expericnce. The self-appointed maverick.
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Perot led in polls at one point, before dropping out and flaking. Palin was their sweetheart for a small while, until everyone realized how ignorant she was. Carson led in polls this time, and Cain led last time.
Repubublicans have a long history of loving the outsider candidate, with zero to minimal political expericnce. The self-appointed maverick.
Perot is the closest but none of the rest of those are even close to Donald Trump.
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Trump was worth tens of millions of dollars when he was born. His dad left him between 1 and 80 million bucks (the number varies when the story is told), to build his empire, which should be worth 8bil alone if only sitting in mutual funds for 60 years. It's not worth that much, so this silver spoon baby has underperformed and been a lifelong liberal supporting everything wrong with Washington for 60 years...
I forget, why do repubs love him again?
This is a common myth about his using money inherited from his dad. By the time his dad Fred Trump died in 1999 Trump was already well known and a billionaire. 80 million bucks wouldn't grow to 8 billion since 1999.
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This is a common myth about his using money inherited from his dad. By the time his dad Fred Trump died in 1999 Trump was already well known and a billionaire. 80 million bucks wouldn't grow to 8 billion since 1999.
"My father gave me a small loan of a million dollars"
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/26/politics/donald-trump-small-loan-town-hall/
A million dollars in 1968 is worth almost 7 million today. Pretty good start. "Came from nothing" is funny. Dad gives you 7 million bucks in today's dollars and all those connection, world-class education.... "came from nothing" is what obama did, actually lol.
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Trump was worth tens of millions of dollars when he was born. His dad left him between 1 and 80 million bucks (the number varies when the story is told), to build his empire, which should be worth 8bil alone if only sitting in mutual funds for 60 years. It's not worth that much, so this silver spoon baby has underperformed and been a lifelong liberal supporting everything wrong with Washington for 60 years...
I forget, why do repubs love him again?
By the belly of the Buddha...Are you always this much of child when it comes to matters such as this? People have voted for him because they are not just tired of the same old shit in suits that define World Politics but are exhausted from the product of both Parties. Life isn't a box of chocolates, kid. For most hard working Americans it's more a litter box full of political crap, i.e., PC BS.
But you already knew this and still you posit your pathetic reflections on why people that think instead of "feel", desire someone that thinks as they do. That American can be great again. That people looking to be offended are offensive. There is more but again, you already know this. Milksop typist.
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By the belly of the Buddha...Are you always this much of child when it comes to matters such as this? People have voted for him because they are not just tired of the same old shit in suits that define World Politics but are exhausted from the product of both Parties. Life isn't a box of chocolates, kid. For most hard working Americans it's more a litter box full of political crap, i.e., PC BS.
But you already knew this and still you posit your pathetic reflections on why people that think instead of "feel", desire someone that thinks as they do. That American can be great again. That people looking to be offended are offensive. There is more but again, you already know this. Milksop typist.
I'm attacking a claim that Trump "came up from some nobody". He was essentially American royalty from the moment he was born.
Going beyond this, attacking me in many ways, doesn't change the fact that Trump was "somebody" the moment he was born, given wealth and fame and every advantage imaginable. If he's not American Royalty, then I don't know who is.
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"My father gave me a small loan of a million dollars"
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/26/politics/donald-trump-small-loan-town-hall/
A million dollars in 1968 is worth almost 7 million today. Pretty good start. "Came from nothing" is funny. Dad gives you 7 million bucks in today's dollars and all those connection, world-class education.... "came from nothing" is what obama did, actually lol.
So you've dropped from 8 billion to 7 million? I figured that'd be more of a fight. Dropped claim by more than 1/1000 in about 5 minutes. Epic factual collapse.
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240 is the most respectful arguer on getbig.
Always attacks the argument, never the arguer.
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I'm attacking a claim that Trump "came up from some nobody". He was essentially American royalty from the moment he was born.
Going beyond this, attacking me in many ways, doesn't change the fact that Trump was "somebody" the moment he was born, given wealth and fame and every advantage imaginable. If he's not American Royalty, then I don't know who is.
Who cares? He's already done more than any of the rest by getting a vote of the American people on the issue of immigration, which he is a proxy for. No one would even be talking about it now without him. They'd have all swept it under the rug. That alone gets my vote. All the rest of antiPC stuff and candid talk is just gravy.
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So you've dropped from 8 billion to 7 million? I figured that'd be more of a fight. Dropped claim by more than 1/1000 in about 5 minutes. Epic factual collapse.
I had the same exact conversation with 240 concerning the math of this issue over 6 months ago.
Hopefully you'll have better luck than I did getting through to him.
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I'm attacking a claim that Trump "came up from some nobody". He was essentially American royalty from the moment he was born.
Going beyond this, attacking me in many ways, doesn't change the fact that Trump was "somebody" the moment he was born, given wealth and fame and every advantage imaginable. If he's not American Royalty, then I don't know who is.
Who cares that he inherited money from his father? You? Really? He has done a great deal with that money including providing jobs for many people. Would you rather the government took his inheritance and gave it to the lazy of the world? Would that be "fair"? They already have an Inheritance Tax and libtards would love to take even more, if not all, from any that inherit something from their relatives. I would imagine more than few of the old guard RINOs would enjoy doing so too.
The important thing in all of this is not what you and others of like mind think of him, but what he thinks of America. So far he thinks as do a great many other Americans. That even now this is still the greatest country on Earth but it should be even greater. It can be. It shall be.
I have yet to hear anyone say how much they want to move to the Sudan or Nigeria or China, Russia or France but the world is always knocking at the door (or crawling under the fence ) to get from wherever they are to here.
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Who cares? He's already done more than any of the rest by getting a vote of the American people on the issue of immigration, which he is a proxy for. No one would even be talking about it now without him. They'd have all swept it under the rug. That alone gets my vote. All the rest of antiPC stuff and candid talk is just gravy.
But his solution for it would be impossible to implement.
During his Prez run, Trump claimed that there are between 30 and 34 MILLION illegal aliens in the USA.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/28/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-number-illegal-immigrants-30-mil/
This past wednesday, he reminded Lester Holt that YES, he still plans to DEPORT all of the illegal aliens.
We are a nation of 318 million people. Trump promises to kick out about 10% of them. TEN PERCENT. How does this happen? Where do they go? What are the results?
Yes, 44% or so of republican base voters like Trump. A majority of repubs do not. He says he's kicking out 10% of the US population - again, his words, and numbers, not mine. He's either lying about it, or he's not realized what it entails, nor have his supporters. How many people does it take to remove 34 million people?
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Who cares that he inherited money from his father?
The person on getbig who said Trump "came up from some nobody". I disagreed with his claim.
I never said anything about any govt taking any inheritance from anyone. I applaud Trump's success. But I don't claim he "came up from nobody".
The day Trump was born, his family was already developing thousands of residential and military housing units, all over NY and elsewhere, was a supermarket success, was already being investigated by the govt.
Trump was wealthy and already a nation name the day he was born. Cool, I don't hate on that.
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The person on getbig who said Trump "came up from some nobody". I disagreed with his claim.
I never said anything about any govt taking any inheritance from anyone. I applaud Trump's success. But I don't claim he "came up from nobody".
The day Trump was born, his family was already developing thousands of residential and military housing units, all over NY and elsewhere, was a supermarket success, was already being investigated by the govt.
Trump was wealthy and already a nation name the day he was born. Cool, I don't hate on that.
Good.
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The person on getbig who said Trump "came up from some nobody". I disagreed with his claim.
I never said anything about any govt taking any inheritance from anyone. I applaud Trump's success. But I don't claim he "came up from nobody".
The day Trump was born, his family was already developing thousands of residential and military housing units, all over NY and elsewhere, was a supermarket success, was already being investigated by the govt.
Trump was wealthy and already a nation name the day he was born. Cool, I don't hate on that.
He did come up from being a nobody, no matter how much his father gave him, he's turned those measly millions into billions. Nobody knew who Donald Trump was when he was born, knock it off.
How many people do Trumps business's employ?
How many people do Hillarys business's employ? What has Hillary done for this country?
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"Hard working Americans" = you don't know hard work. Talk to someone who makes over $250,000 per year and is self employed. They all dwarf the average worker in effort & aspiration. We don't live for the weekend nor count the clock.
"Too much taxes" = Only poor people complain about taxes. That's the plain truth. Ask yourself, why do the wealthy not only pay the lions share of taxes but also give away a HUGE portion of their wealth to charity on top? Pro Tip: It's not for the tax breaks.
What I'm getting at here is the average Joe "Pro Trump" voter has literally nothing to do with Trump. Trump knows this. They don't. He's laughing all the way to the winners circle. And it makes me fucking sick how stupid my country has become. THAT is the America I want to take back! YOU are the problem, fuckers!
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But his solution for it would be impossible to implement.
During his Prez run, Trump claimed that there are between 30 and 34 MILLION illegal aliens in the USA.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/28/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-number-illegal-immigrants-30-mil/
This past wednesday, he reminded Lester Holt that YES, he still plans to DEPORT all of the illegal aliens.
We are a nation of 318 million people. Trump promises to kick out about 10% of them. TEN PERCENT. How does this happen? Where do they go? What are the results?
Yes, 44% or so of republican base voters like Trump. A majority of repubs do not. He says he's kicking out 10% of the US population - again, his words, and numbers, not mine. He's either lying about it, or he's not realized what it entails, nor have his supporters. How many people does it take to remove 34 million people?
He has a higher percentage of Primary Rs and total number of votes than Ronney last time.
Also even if he doesn't succeed in deporting all illegals, simply making that the goal to aspire to gets you a hell of a lot farther than any of the rest. Hillary and every D wants to bring in more and more, many Chamber of Commerce or milquetoast Rs also would do the same.
Let me put it in terms you may understand. If you set a goal to bench 500 pounds, maybe you'll make it, maybe not, but I bet you get farther with that goal and closer to benching 500 pounds than someone who just wants to bench 135. Trump is at least setting the goal, and he's the only one willing to say it or say anything close to what the people actually want to happen. So we get an election to decide this issue. Fine, I'll take it. Because every time this issue comes to a vote the anti-open borders crowd wins.
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Let me put it in terms you may understand. If you set a goal to bench 500 pounds, maybe you'll make it, maybe not, but I bet you get farther with that goal and closer to benching 500 pounds than someone who just wants to bench 135. Trump is at least setting the goal, and he's the only one willing to say it or say anything close to what the people actually want to happen. So we get an election to decide this issue. Fine, I'll take it. Because every time this issue comes to a vote the anti-open borders crowd wins.
But what he's promising is a 1200 pound bench press to everyone. "I'll deport 34 million people" is delusional and/or dishonest.
Yes, it's great to show people are supporting it... but they're supporting an impossible claim. Yes, nearly 100% of male gymgoers would support a secret circuit workout that would make them 230 pounds at 2% body fat with Fabio-like locks of hair. But a personal trainer promising that would be a lying douche for doing so.
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What I'm getting at here is the average Joe "Pro Trump" voter has literally nothing to do with Trump. Trump knows this. They don't. He's laughing all the way to the winners circle. And it makes me fucking sick how stupid my country has become. THAT is the America I want to take back! YOU are the problem, fuckers!
Trump has completely reversed this week on raising the min wage AND taxing the wealthy. Outright pandering to the liberals now.
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Trump has completely reversed this week on raising the min wage AND taxing the wealthy. Outright pandering to the liberals now.
I'm glad, 240. I really hope you are right about Trump throwing the election. Otherwise, he'll win.
As a minority, I have to live with these neanderthal idiot sheep. I'm seriously considering relocating to a more diverse area if Trump is victorious. SoCal, Seattle or Toronto (temp obviously) are on my radar of ideas.
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I'm glad, 240. I really hope you are right about Trump throwing the election.
I've posted it on getbig since 2011. I called Trump a dem plant then. I think Trump trivilaized the very legitimate birther issue for obama in 2012.
Kept asking "where's the birth certificate" then was the butt of the joke just in time for the Correspondent's Dinner, then quietly slinked away, obama's legitimacy intact and proven.
His legacy is that he gave the POTUS job to a very polarizing, outright liar in Hilary. If he makes HIMSELF a walking contradictory joke, it won't matter what he says about Hilary... she will easily win, as the only grownup in the race.
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Trump has completely reversed this week on raising the min wage AND taxing the wealthy. Outright pandering to the liberals now.
Every single politician does about faces, constantly. What is your point?
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Every single politician does about faces, constantly. What is your point?
We're talking about MAJOR policy issues.
he said months ago that the min wage was actually TOO HIGH. After all, raising the min wage to $15 will CRUSH small business. But this week, he said he would consider Bernie's $15 number. That's a monster change that really scares many people.
he said months ago, and on his website, that he would cut the tax rate down to 15% for the most wealthy. Then he said this week he plans on RAISING the tax rate for the most wealthy. Um, that's a little more than pandering, that's spitting in the face of the promises to the people that supported him.
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We're talking about MAJOR policy issues.
he said months ago that the min wage was actually TOO HIGH. After all, raising the min wage to $15 will CRUSH small business. But this week, he said he would consider Bernie's $15 number. That's a monster change that really scares many people.
he said months ago, and on his website, that he would cut the tax rate down to 15% for the most wealthy. Then he said this week he plans on RAISING the tax rate for the most wealthy. Um, that's a little more than pandering, that's spitting in the face of the promises to the people that supported him.
You never talk policy. What's YOUR point?
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Every single politician does about faces, constantly. What is your point?
With this current media environment and going against 16 competitors it is simply a reality of the process.
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You never talk policy. What's YOUR point?
I talk policy all the time. I listen to Beck, Rush, hannity, and my favorite, Levin. We can talk policy anytime! Trump's policies are ALL OVER THE PLACE. This week, he shit all over small businesses with the min wage thing, and shit all over the wealthy by saying instead of cutting their taxes by almost half, HE IS GOING TO RAISE THEM!
Even HILARY isn't promising the sanders min wage and insane punishing tax hikes. He's trying to get bernie voters BY ADOPTING BERNIE'S POSITIONS!!
at this point, he's as scary as bernie... policy-wise...
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I've posted it on getbig since 2011. I called Trump a dem plant then. I think Trump trivilaized the very legitimate birther issue for obama in 2012.
Kept asking "where's the birth certificate" then was the butt of the joke just in time for the Correspondent's Dinner, then quietly slinked away, obama's legitimacy intact and proven.
His legacy is that he gave the POTUS job to a very polarizing, outright liar in Hilary. If he makes HIMSELF a walking contradictory joke, it won't matter what he says about Hilary... she will easily win, as the only grownup in the race.
Democrat plant? That has been debunked a thousand different ways. It's silly wishful thinking based on your cognitive bias not being able to deal with objective reality showing you are constantly wrong. Great plan, run a guy as a plant who makes you look terrible and who has huge popular support.
Open borders types love to claim deporting anyone would be impossible the equivalent of a 1200 pound bench press. How about we start with a million or two and see what happens. He's the only one that wants this. And it will get him elected. Hillary is the worst and most vulnerable D candidate in recent memory. She has a sitting Persident and a former president on her side, who are both LIABILITIES.
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AHHH.... :D
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How about we start with a million or two and see what happens.
that's not what trump said. he said there are 30 to 34 million illegals, and that they'll all be deported.
There is no "start with a million" from Trump, he's never said that.
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Hillary is the worst and most vulnerable D candidate in recent memory. She has a sitting Persident and a former president on her side, who are both LIABILITIES.
Not to mention she's a murdering cunt that has been under investigation for several different crimes for several years.
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that's not what trump said. he said there are 30 to 34 million illegals, and that they'll all be deported.
There is no "start with a million" from Trump, he's never said that.
Try sneaking into Mexico and get back to me. Actually, you won't have to "get back to me" as one of two things will occur. Either you'll be thrown into a hell hole of a jail or you will be immediately deported. No...Wait! There's always the possibility of your being kidnapped and held for ransom to be paid by your family.
What part about illegal don't you understand? You do understand but you don't give a fook. We (i.e. Americans) want a president that isn't PC, isn't a fooktard, doesn't use his "presidential privilege" (read: "Executive Order") to get his pussified fooking way. If Trump falls back on his promises he will be called to task and that by those that elected him and without the pussy matter of skin color or gender to protect his lying ass.
So then, either man up, fook off or get the hell out of the way. Americans want our country back. Those of you that seem to want a cuntry can look to Europe and (once)Great Britain for what awaits you. If you are for making America for Americans again, then by all means quite positing this fecal matter and put American first by casting out the old guard of both parties.
Quit playing the libtard's advocate. Unless of course, that is what you think is best. Personally, I can't stand that stuff.
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Not to mention she's a murdering cunt that has been under investigation for several different crimes for several years.
^^
The CLINTONS had many, many people killed in their time... scroll down the list I was shocked!!
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#axzz47nYYMyTg (http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#axzz47nYYMyTg)
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The CLINTONS had many, many people killed in their time... scroll down the list I was shocked!!
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#axzz47nYYMyTg (http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#axzz47nYYMyTg)
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he said months ago that the min wage was actually TOO HIGH. After all, raising the min wage to $15 will CRUSH small business. But this week, he said he would consider Bernie's $15 number. That's a monster change that really scares many people.
He never said that. You gotta stop twisting the truth.
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He never said that. You gotta stop twisting the truth.
Sorry, Trump doesnt get to say "I might go looking at that, I'm very different from most republicans".
Imagine a repub saying "I'm very different from most repubs, I might support legalizing abortion for everyone"
or
"I'm very different from other repubs, I might be open to gun bans". People would be SHITTING.
Trump said previously this year that the min wage was TOO HIGH. He's completely opposite there. I don't get why you defend this guy - he's a damn flake. All over the map. He's a democrat that tricked angry republicans (44% of them?) into choosing him.
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Sorry, Trump doesnt get to say "I might go looking at that, I'm very different from most republicans".
Imagine a repub saying "I'm very different from most repubs, I might support legalizing abortion for everyone"
or
"I'm very different from other repubs, I might be open to gun bans". People would be SHITTING.
Trump said previously this year that the min wage was TOO HIGH. He's completely opposite there. I don't get why you defend this guy - he's a damn flake. All over the map. He's a democrat that tricked angry republicans (44% of them?) into choosing him.
He's trying to show he's different then the establishment. He in no way says he's considering Bernie's $15 min wage. He says, "if you start playing around too much with the lower level number(min wage), you're not going to be competitive." His stance is going to be, we're bringing good paying jobs back, we're not going to need to bring the min wage to $15. Stop trying to scare people. I'm not even crazy about the guy, but you keep twisting the truth.
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He's trying to show he's different then the establishment.
That doesn't work for me. Hes doing EXACTLY what the establishment candidates do - promising something different to every room of people they enter, based upon the audience. He said during the debates that the min wage was TOO HIGH. $7.25 an hour is too high. Gotcha.
Now he says that he'd look at raising it... 7.25 is too high, but now that he's seen socialist candidates pushing for it, hey, let's look at it? No, that doesn't work. That's not showing you're a maverick.. it's showing you just took two OPPOSITE positions. Raising and lowering.
Same with the tax increases... this week he wants the top 1% to pay more. Last month, he planned on cutting their rate by 14.6%, I believe. WHICH IS IT?
People somehow equate flakiness/pandering with "being different from the establishment". I think trump is just bullshitting all of us. A dem plant to look like shit, maybe even entice a 3rd party run, and hand it to hilary. he's done EVERYTHING you would do, in order to deliver Clinton to the White House. And they're very very good friends for many years... why are people jut discounting this... "they wouldn't do that?" LOL come on.
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I'm glad, 240. I really hope you are right about Trump throwing the election. Otherwise, he'll win.
As a minority, I have to live with these neanderthal idiot sheep. I'm seriously considering relocating to a more diverse area if Trump is victorious. SoCal, Seattle or Toronto (temp obviously) are on my radar of ideas.
"As a minority"... *BARF* "I'm seriously considering relocating to a more diverse area if Trump is victorious." *Double BARF*
How pitiful. How pathetic. How typically libtard. Please stay the fook out of SoCal and just move all the way to Canada. If you really are serious then so am I. And don't forget to take anyone that agrees with you.
Should Trump win, you won't be going anywhere. Somebody call the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahmb ulance. Did you parents have any children they were proud to call their own?
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how is hilary even eligible after the scandal and the blatant lying?
even if she is immune to law the majority of people in US must have read about this and watched her videos?
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I'm glad, 240. I really hope you are right about Trump throwing the election. Otherwise, he'll win.
As a minority, I have to live with these neanderthal idiot sheep. I'm seriously considering relocating to a more diverse area if Trump is victorious. SoCal, Seattle or Toronto (temp obviously) are on my radar of ideas.
How about you kill yourself and take half of Hollywood with you.
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Please describe the process of 11 million people being forcefully pulled from 50 states and sent back. How long does it take? What is the cost? How many of these 11 million go into hiding, open fire, or fight it in court?
And the wall? Why doesn't a 41 foot ladder stop a 40 foot wall? What happens when mexicans blow holes in the wall every day, or start massive fires, throwing molotov cocktails over into the usa? Does mexico really pay for it? Does congress really let it happen?
The cost would be greater to leave them here sucking us dry. By the way, walls work! Don't be stupid! Also yes, Mexico really is going to pay for it! We either have a country or we don't bud! Simple as that!
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The cost would be greater to leave them here sucking us dry. By the way, walls work! Don't be stupid! Also yes, Mexico really is going to pay for it! We either have a country or we don't bud! Simple as that!
The cost is not greater to leave them here.
To round up and deport conservatively 11 million people would require manpower you haven't seen since world war 2.
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The cost is not greater to leave them here.
To round up and deport conservatively 11 million people would require manpower you haven't seen since world war 2.
This is just silly. They can easily do it over several years. Most would self deport by simply making it impossible for them to get work or benefits or send any money south, all things easily doable with the right mindset. Heck you could also give every illegal man woman and child a $10,000 check on the way out and they'd line up in droves. They easily cost at least that much per person every year.
Everyone who claims it is impossible actually just doesn't want it done.
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This is just silly. They can easily do it over several years. Most would self deport by simply making it impossible for them to get work or benefits or send any money south, all things easily doable with the right mindset. Heck you could also give every illegal man woman and child a $10,000 check on the way out and they'd line up in droves. They easily cost at least that much per person every year.
Everyone who claims it is impossible actually just doesn't want it done.
You think giving money to drug users will make people stop using drugs?
Your thoughts on this are small minded and unrealistic.
You are effectively saying that you want your taxes to go up or the debt to continue to grow. It will cost enormous amounts of money to do this and that's a fact.
Not one I would expect Trump to know. He's not very good at facts, but it is one none the less.
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This is just silly. They can easily do it over several years. Most would self deport by simply making it impossible for them to get work or benefits or send any money south, all things easily doable with the right mindset. Heck you could also give every illegal man woman and child a $10,000 check on the way out and they'd line up in droves. They easily cost at least that much per person every year.
Everyone who claims it is impossible actually just doesn't want it done.
I read one of those European countries was actually proposing something similar in regards to their migrant problem. Simply paying them to leave.
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Stupid or great idea? Make all immigrants take a test in the respective fields and we give work visas to the top 10% kind of like the Japanese college.
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sorry to be the bearer of bad news again
the tooth fairy doesn't exist
santa isn't real
the wall isn't coming
mexicans aren't going anywhere
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and congrats to trump
thanks for destroying the republican party
warms the cockles of my heart
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The cost is not greater to leave them here.
To round up and deport conservatively 11 million people would require manpower you haven't seen since world war 2.
or 30 to 34 million. Trump said he heard there are 30 to 34 million.
Either he's a lying POS that will TRIPLE the number to scare people, or he's that freakin' stupid.
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and congrats to trump
thanks for destroying the republican party
warms the cockles of my heart
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And you or 240 can't tell us why you are voting Killary or why she should be prez. Like Obama, she's literally and clinically a pathological liar. But that doesn't matter to you.
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And you or 240 can't tell us why you are voting Killary or why she should be prez. Like Obama, she's literally and clinically a pathological liar. But that doesn't matter to you.
I think Trump and Hilary are the same. Neither will get my vote. They're both bag of shit liberals, trump is a dem plant. Trump reiterated today, he plans to raise the taxes on the rich. Coach, Trump lied, said he was bringing your rate down 14.6%, and now he is coming at YOU, coach. He punked you, pal, just like I said he was going to do. Said he'd drop the rate for those making 250k a full 14.6%... and this week, and today, he goes on ABC to tell the world he's going to raise it instead.
Do you still "like a lot of his ideas"? ;)
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You never talk policy. What's YOUR point?
Coach, check this out. Thoughts? Wouldn't this also make Trump a "clinical" liar?
U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said on Sunday he is open to raising taxes on the rich, backing off his prior proposal to reduce taxes on all Americans and breaking with one of his party's core policies dating back to the 1990s.
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Trump's call for higher taxes on the wealthy is a break with Republican presidential nominees who have staunchly opposed tax hikes for almost three decades. Higher taxes have been anathema to many in the party since former President George H.W. Bush infuriated fellow Republicans by abandoning a pledge not to raise taxes and agreeing to an increase as part of a 1990 budget deal.
Democrats, including presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton, have pressed for increased taxes on the wealthiest Americans for years.
Trump released a tax proposal last September that included broad tax breaks for businesses and households. He proposed reducing the highest income tax rate to 25 percent from the current 39.6 percent rate. *Reuters source
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And you or 240 can't tell us why you are voting Killary or why she should be prez. Like Obama, she's literally and clinically a pathological liar. But that doesn't matter to you.
the republican party is a bunch of stupid crazy people
god will smite this party
the GOP will be destroyed in the general election
let the celebrations begin!
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You think giving money to drug users will make people stop using drugs?
Your thoughts on this are small minded and unrealistic.
You are effectively saying that you want your taxes to go up or the debt to continue to grow. It will cost enormous amounts of money to do this and that's a fact.
Not one I would expect Trump to know. He's not very good at facts, but it is one none the less.
You don't care, you just don't want them to leave. You want more. Open borders. Have the guts to admit it.
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the republican party is a bunch of stupid crazy people
god will smite this party
the GOP will be destroyed in the general election
let the celebrations begin!
The party felt the smiting of stupidity long ago. They are still reeling from the effects of it.
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I think Trump and Hilary are the same. Neither will get my vote. They're both bag of shit liberals, trump is a dem plant. Trump reiterated today, he plans to raise the taxes on the rich. Coach, Trump lied, said he was bringing your rate down 14.6%, and now he is coming at YOU, coach. He punked you, pal, just like I said he was going to do. Said he'd drop the rate for those making 250k a full 14.6%... and this week, and today, he goes on ABC to tell the world he's going to raise it instead.
Do you still "like a lot of his ideas"? ;)
Judging by your posts you are going to vote for Hillary. You spend waaaaaay more time on Trump and virtually none on Hillary.
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The party felt the smiting of stupidity long ago. They are still reeling from the effects of it.
confused, befuddled and bewildered.
the problem with being dumb is that the condition prevents it's own discovery
stupidity is a highly recursive phenomenon!
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Judging by your posts you are going to vote for Hillary. You spend waaaaaay more time on Trump and virtually none on Hillary.
It's like 240 is a Killary plant!!!
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You don't care, you just don't want them to leave. You want more. Open borders. Have the guts to admit it.
No, I'm realistic.
I really don't care if they stay or go. These are the people painting your house cheap. Picking the lettuce. Washing the dishes at the restaurants you go to.
I don't think you really understand what a huge economic undertaking it is, or how they actually and factually give more to the US economically than they take.
You have some very small minded and incorrect idea that they "take your jobs", but they don't. They take the jobs that you wouldn't dare do, and they do them pretty cheap which is why you can afford certain things.
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This is what your economic savior said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/donald-trump-national-debt-strategy/
Donald Trump declared Monday the U.S. never has to default on debt "because you print the money," while trying to clarify his strategy for managing the national debt.
Trump insisted that he never said the U.S. should default or attempt to renegotiate with creditors, as had been reported.
"People said I want to go and buy debt and default on debt, and I mean, these people are crazy. This is the United States government," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you, OK?"
That's a direct cause of hyper inflation. Ask Germany in the 1920s how that worked?
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I'm not voting for either, myself. Pretty sorry line-up, but a testament to how STUPID America is as a whole. Good for business though! If America smartened up, I'd be broke! ;D
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"As a minority"... *BARF* "I'm seriously considering relocating to a more diverse area if Trump is victorious." *Double BARF*
How pitiful. How pathetic. How typically libtard. Please stay the fook out of SoCal and just move all the way to Canada. If you really are serious then so am I. And don't forget to take anyone that agrees with you.
Should Trump win, you won't be going anywhere. Somebody call the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahmb ulance. Did you parents have any children they were proud to call their own?
Just trying to protect my family.
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Just trying to protect my family.
I seriously doubt you and your family have anything to fear from normal people, regardless of their skin color and I have no doubt that most of the world is perfectly normal. Do as you desire and blame it on whatever milks your mammaries.
That said, take off hoser. Later, eh?
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"It's the Republican Party, not the Conservative Party."
Great quote by Mighty Trump today.
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"It's the Republican Party, not the Conservative Party."
Great quote by Mighty Trump today.
Hilary chose her own opponent. He's a joke to democrats, and the republican base is growing to HATE trump. Hilary wins election. Smart.
Whom does the country have to blame for Donald Trump’s ascendancy in American politics? The Republican Party, for cultivating conservative populism to score short-term victories against Barack Obama? The media, for covering Trump’s every utterance at the expense of all other candidates? Celebrity culture, for thrusting him into the public consciousness? Capitalism, for making him rich? Tall buildings, of which Trump has many?
Wrong, says The Washington Post, which revealed the supposed truth on Wednesday: it was former president and candidate spouse Bill Clinton all along.
According to several Trump sources (and one Clinton source) who spoke to the Post, the two men spoke over the phone in late May, shortly before Trump announced his run in June. During the call, the Trump sources said, Clinton “encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party” and “analyzed Trump’s prospects and his desire to rouse the G.O.P. base.”
That conversation, said the anonymous Trump sources, certainly didn’t discourage the billionaire to run: while Clinton never outright told Trump to enter the race, he reportedly told Trump that he was “striking a chord with frustrated conservatives and was a rising force on the right,” and his tone was supposedly “encouraging.”
(This is something a political genius would tell someone with a desire to run for president, especially if that person was a known self-promoter, capable of sucking the air out of a room full of his opponents—and especially if the genius’s wife happened to be running in the party against that known self-promoter.)
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-before-presidential-run-2016
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No, I'm realistic.
I really don't care if they stay or go. These are the people painting your house cheap. Picking the lettuce. Washing the dishes at the restaurants you go to.
I don't think you really understand what a huge economic undertaking it is, or how they actually and factually give more to the US economically than they take.
You have some very small minded and incorrect idea that they "take your jobs", but they don't. They take the jobs that you wouldn't dare do, and they do them pretty cheap which is why you can afford certain things.
The mere fact that you believe the propaganda about them being a net plus economically is all I need to know about your experience in this world.
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Hilary chose her own opponent. He's a joke to democrats, and the republican base is growing to HATE trump. Hilary wins election. Smart.
Whom does the country have to blame for Donald Trump’s ascendancy in American politics? The Republican Party, for cultivating conservative populism to score short-term victories against Barack Obama? The media, for covering Trump’s every utterance at the expense of all other candidates? Celebrity culture, for thrusting him into the public consciousness? Capitalism, for making him rich? Tall buildings, of which Trump has many?
Wrong, says The Washington Post, which revealed the supposed truth on Wednesday: it was former president and candidate spouse Bill Clinton all along.
According to several Trump sources (and one Clinton source) who spoke to the Post, the two men spoke over the phone in late May, shortly before Trump announced his run in June. During the call, the Trump sources said, Clinton “encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party” and “analyzed Trump’s prospects and his desire to rouse the G.O.P. base.”
That conversation, said the anonymous Trump sources, certainly didn’t discourage the billionaire to run: while Clinton never outright told Trump to enter the race, he reportedly told Trump that he was “striking a chord with frustrated conservatives and was a rising force on the right,” and his tone was supposedly “encouraging.”
(This is something a political genius would tell someone with a desire to run for president, especially if that person was a known self-promoter, capable of sucking the air out of a room full of his opponents—and especially if the genius’s wife happened to be running in the party against that known self-promoter.)
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-before-presidential-run-2016
An article from a year ago showing Bubba done fucked up good. Your posts reek of fear from a Hillary shill.
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The mere fact that you believe the propaganda about them being a net plus economically is all I need to know about your experience in this world.
The fact you don't understand the world around you shows that you are the one without any experience.
I see it EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
My experience is without a doubt far more extensive than yours. Feel free to prove me wrong.
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An article from a year ago showing Bubba done fucked up good. Your posts reek of fear from a Hillary shill.
oh i hate hilary. but i think trump is a dem liberal just like her.
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Donald Trump just made a new mess while walking back his controversial plan for US debt
Donald Trump on Monday said it was "crazy" to think he would try to negotiate his way out of full repayment of government bonds — despite what he suggested last week — but he did suggest another potentially alarming option for debt management.
"First of all, you never have to default because you print the money," the presumptive Republican presidential nominee said on CNN.
This is true, but as with trying to get bondholders to take a haircut, it's out of the economic mainstream.
Last Thursday, Trump suggested on CNBC that he would be able to reduce the national debt by persuading creditors to accept a "haircut" on that debt, in which case creditors would be repaid less than the face value of US Treasury bills and bonds. For example, a Trump administration might repay $80 of a $100 bond to the bond's holder.
"I've borrowed knowing that you can pay back with discounts," he said. "I would borrow knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal."
Such a proposal, implying that the US would not fully pay back its debts, was immediately condemned in the finance world.
US government debt is widely viewed as one of the safest available investments. So the idea of investors' receiving less than they were promised by the most powerful government in the world would almost certainly dramatically increase interest rates in the US and would very likely set off a global recession, experts said.
In a Monday interview on CNN's "New Day," as Trump attempted to clarify his plans for the national debt, he said the US would never default on its obligations because it printed money (emphasis added):
If interest rates go up, and we can buy bonds back at a discount, if we are liquid enough as a country, we should do that. In other words, we can buy back debt at a discount. People said I wanted to go and buy debt and default on debt, these people are crazy. This is the United States government. First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you.
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The fact you don't understand the world around you shows that you are the one without any experience.
I see it EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
My experience is without a doubt far more extensive than yours. Feel free to prove me wrong.
What was Cesar Chavez's position on illegal immigrants ?
Show me a study on economic benefits that accounts for the massive costs from immigration and criminal courts and esl programs in schools.
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What was Cesar Chavez's position on illegal immigrants ?
Great pound-for-pound fighter
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The biggest joke on the American people is the two party system when in reality it's just one party that cater to the super rich. They keep the guise of a two party system so people don't think they live in a dictator state but the truth is, it's one party, the leader is chosen and we bear the burden of it.
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What was Cesar Chavez's position on illegal immigrants ?
Show me a study on economic benefits that accounts for the massive costs from immigration and criminal courts and esl programs in schools.
I don't care about Cesar Chavez's position.
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/news/2013/02/08/52377/immigrants-are-makers-not-takers/
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/cea/cea_immigration_062007.html
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Great pound-for-pound fighter
Which one?
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No, I'm realistic.
I really don't care if they stay or go. These are the people painting your house cheap. Picking the lettuce. Washing the dishes at the restaurants you go to.
I don't think you really understand what a huge economic undertaking it is, or how they actually and factually give more to the US economically than they take.
You have some very small minded and incorrect idea that they "take your jobs", but they don't. They take the jobs that you wouldn't dare do, and they do them pretty cheap which is why you can afford certain things.
??? I've painted a house and washed dishes. I'd pick lettuce if there's good money in it. But I wouldn't do any of these things for a promise of $2/hr and nowhere to turn when the guy doesn't pay up at the end of the week.
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??? I've painted a house and washed dishes. I'd pick lettuce if there's good money in it. But I wouldn't do any of these things for a promise of $2/hr and nowhere to turn when the guy doesn't pay up at the end of the week.
No one would buy lettuce if you were to pick it.
You wouldn't be able to buy an orange if you
Your food costs would skyrocket.
Even the dish washers would make restaurant prices go up. You wouldn't be able to afford to eat out.
This is just reality.
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No one would buy lettuce if you were to pick it.
You wouldn't be able to buy an orange if you
Your food costs would skyrocket.
Even the dish washers would make restaurant prices go up. You wouldn't be able to afford to eat out.
This is just reality.
Not for the entire rest of the developed world, who still afford produce and dinner out just fine. One might argue that the prices of things in an economy propped up by slave labor are un-reality since they don't accurately represent the true value of the thing.
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Not for the entire rest of the developed world, who still afford produce and dinner out just fine. One might argue that the prices of things in an economy propped up by slave labor are un-reality since they don't accurately represent the true value of the thing.
You think the rest of the "developed" world don't have these low paid workers? This is not something that is US only. There are low paid bus boys and things all around the world.
They have the same situations. Also, the rest of the developed world doesn't eat near as well as the US populace. You get food in a restaurant in other countries and the portions are 1/2 the size for 50% more money.
PLUS the low wage earners.
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You think the rest of the "developed" world don't have these low paid workers? This is not something that is US only. There are low paid bus boys and things all around the world.
They have the same situations. Also, the rest of the developed world doesn't eat near as well as the US populace. You get food in a restaurant in other countries and the portions are 1/2 the size for 50% more money.
PLUS the low wage earners.
Low wage workers earn the minimum legal wage and are protected by labor laws. Illegal workers get none of that. Also, low wage workers in the US have far crappier lives than low wage workers in other first world nations because the US minimum legal wage is anchored down by the US minimum actual wage that an illegal will work for.
"I got fat because I didn't pay the guy who worked to produce the food sweet fuck all which let me buy it cheap" isn't much of an argument in favor of illegal labor. If he did an honest day's work he deserves an honest day's pay and the force of law to ensure he receives it.
As an aside, I find it kind of amusing that the overfed US population is always looking down its nose at Mexicans who do jobs that the American guy couldn't do if he tried. "Oh that's Pedro, he mows my lawn." Ya, and purchases and maintains all the machines and vehicles to haul them, schedules his jobs, organizes his workers and pays them, collects debts, etc. Meanwhile the fat white dude with none of his own money in the game, who can't negotiate a non-mechanized flight of stairs, is sitting in a cubicle summing figures in a spreadsheet for someone else, thinking he's the duck's nuts compared to the Mexican lawnmower man, lol. Who's the last American dude you met that would have the strength (physical & psychological) and the skills be able to head on down to the hardware store parking lot to get work and do any job that came his way? Most guys would crumple in two days.
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Low wage workers earn the minimum legal wage and are protected by labor laws. Illegal workers get none of that. Also, low wage workers in the US have far crappier lives than low wage workers in other first world nations because the US minimum legal wage is anchored down by the US minimum actual wage that an illegal will work for.
"I got fat because I didn't pay the guy who worked to produce the food sweet fuck all which let me buy it cheap" isn't much of an argument in favor of illegal labor. If he did an honest day's work he deserves an honest day's pay and the force of law to ensure he receives it.
As an aside, I find it kind of amusing that the overfed US population is always looking down its nose at Mexicans who do jobs that the American guy couldn't do if he tried. "Oh that's Pedro, he mows my lawn." Ya, and purchases and maintains all the machines and vehicles to haul them, schedules his jobs, organizes his workers and pays them, collects debts, etc. Meanwhile the fat white dude with none of his own money in the game, who can't negotiate a non-mechanized flight of stairs, is sitting in a cubicle summing figures in a spreadsheet for someone else, thinking he's the duck's nuts compared to the Mexican lawnmower man, lol. Who's the last American dude you met that would have the strength (physical & psychological) and the skills be able to head on down to the hardware store parking lot to get work and do any job that came his way? Most guys would crumple in two days.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with most of this.
Low wage earners I'm speaking of are the illegals of any country who are working for most of the times cash under the table. So I'm not speaking of those who are receiving the minimum wage.
I'm not saying it's some great argument, but it is reality. This is just the way things are. Plus, if people were getting fat off of lettuce and oranges, they have bigger issues than just illegal immigrants taking their jobs.
I'm not disagreeing with your last paragraph. My point was that illegals are extremely hard workers and are doing the jobs that the US citizenry refuses to do because they are lazy.
Confused now if you're agreeing with me or not.
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You are putting on a clinic, TuHolmes.
I live around a bunch of thugs who foam at the mouth when they hear Trump speak about "illegals." Either they don't know or don't care to know of the points you bring up regarding the blow back they'd incur if they left us.
Honestly, I think they are just hateful, racist people. Judging by their GEO, it's probably true as a whole.
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No clinic, huge welfare, education and medical costs. No studies account for those, plus crime and courts.
Keep up with the lies, it's all ending soon. Hillary won't save you.
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say with most of this.
Low wage earners I'm speaking of are the illegals of any country who are working for most of the times cash under the table. So I'm not speaking of those who are receiving the minimum wage.
I'm not saying it's some great argument, but it is reality. This is just the way things are. Plus, if people were getting fat off of lettuce and oranges, they have bigger issues than just illegal immigrants taking their jobs.
I'm not disagreeing with your last paragraph. My point was that illegals are extremely hard workers and are doing the jobs that the US citizenry refuses to do because they are lazy.
Confused now if you're agreeing with me or not.
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No, I'm differing. I don't think illegal labor should be permitted, I think it's a detriment to economic health overall, and I feel bad for illegal workers because I think they get taken advantage of.
I agree that it's the way things are in the US but don't agree that it's how things are all over. Most countries don't have anywhere near the illegal labor force that the US draws on and they all do just fine imo, and enjoy a better average standard of living than the US.
Because it's how it is at the moment doesn't make me think it's how it should stay. I'd like to see all workers benefiting from fair working wages and labor laws. I also think a physical barrier at the border and enforcement of immigration law is a good idea and long overdue. We simply can't transplant the entire population of the third world into the first world, so at some point we've got to close the door. Idk if I'd go so far as to deport people since lax enforcement of immigration policy makes the US complicit in resident illegals having set up their lives in America.
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Sen them all back as an experiment.
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No clinic, huge welfare, education and medical costs. No studies account for those, plus crime and courts.
Keep up with the lies, it's all ending soon. Hillary won't save you.
Dude, not everyone is looking to be "saved" by anyone, much less Hillary, Trump or even a President. Focus on making enough money where it basically doesn't matter who wins.
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No clinic, huge welfare, education and medical costs. No studies account for those, plus crime and courts.
Keep up with the lies, it's all ending soon. Hillary won't save you.
This is a hardly talked about truth. Cheap labor or not, they are in this country illegally.
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Trump named his son Baron. After Baron Rothschild. ;)
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This is a hardly talked about truth. Cheap labor or not, they are in this country illegally.
That is true, I'm not denying that.
However, the studies do account for total economic draws and pushes.
Illegals pay taxes in sales tax for everything they buy. Gas. Clothes. Goods.
Illegals also don't collect any welfare, unemployment, or social security.
Most studies show that the draw doesn't come anywhere close to what they put into the economy and they ARE hard working people.
If you want to be angry at people, be angry at the lazy welfare people, not the "illegals". They are putting a lot in and getting a lot less in return.
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That is true, I'm not denying that.
However, the studies do account for total economic draws and pushes.
Illegals pay taxes in sales tax for everything they buy. Gas. Clothes. Goods.
Illegals also don't collect any welfare, unemployment, or social security.
Most studies show that the draw doesn't come anywhere close to what they put into the economy and they ARE hard working people.
If you want to be angry at people, be angry at the lazy welfare people, not the "illegals". They are putting a lot in and getting a lot less in return.
You've nailed it. Not too mention that when an illegal attains fake documents including fake SSN numbers they pay SS tax and are never able to redeem it in the end.
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That doesn't work for me. Hes doing EXACTLY what the establishment candidates do - promising something different to every room of people they enter, based upon the audience. He said during the debates that the min wage was TOO HIGH. $7.25 an hour is too high. Gotcha.
Now he says that he'd look at raising it... 7.25 is too high, but now that he's seen socialist candidates pushing for it, hey, let's look at it? No, that doesn't work. That's not showing you're a maverick.. it's showing you just took two OPPOSITE positions. Raising and lowering.
Same with the tax increases... this week he wants the top 1% to pay more. Last month, he planned on cutting their rate by 14.6%, I believe. WHICH IS IT?
People somehow equate flakiness/pandering with "being different from the establishment". I think trump is just bullshitting all of us. A dem plant to look like shit, maybe even entice a 3rd party run, and hand it to hilary. he's done EVERYTHING you would do, in order to deliver Clinton to the White House. And they're very very good friends for many years... why are people jut discounting this... "they wouldn't do that?" LOL come on.
He never said any of this. On min wage he said, "we'll look into it" I say that all the time to managers below me at my company. It doesn't mean he's raising anything. Also, you're wrong about the tax rate. He was referring to his proposed top end 25% tax rate. He said that might have to be a little higher. He was not talking about the current 39.6% tax rate on the wealthy. My family is all conservatives and we have a very large business in a highly democratic county in FL. We've given 100's of thousands to Dem candidates over the years. I've gone to countless dinners and luncheons supporting their causes. Doesn't mean that's how we think or vote. It's just how you play the game when your in that position.
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This whole bullshit of people in the gop all of a sudden backing him is bullshit.
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That is true, I'm not denying that.
However, the studies do account for total economic draws and pushes.
Illegals pay taxes in sales tax for everything they buy. Gas. Clothes. Goods.
Illegals also don't collect any welfare, unemployment, or social security.
Most studies show that the draw doesn't come anywhere close to what they put into the economy and they ARE hard working people.
If you want to be angry at people, be angry at the lazy welfare people, not the "illegals". They are putting a lot in and getting a lot less in return.
actually be angry at property taxes . your rent u pay is directly correlated
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Illegals also don't collect any welfare, unemployment, or social security.
No, but they cause Americans to. That's the problem.
You went on in this post to complain about those Americans, which means you're trying to have it both ways.
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the government will never deport all illegals that would be less circulation of the dollar/
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No, but they cause Americans to. That's the problem.
You went on in this post to complain about those Americans, which means you're trying to have it both ways.
Not really.
Again, as I've stated previously, they are doing the jobs which many people in the US seem to be too good to do.
You're not picking lettuce, and again, if you did, you will say you should make more money than they do by far.
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He never said any of this. On min wage he said, "we'll look into it"
??? Earlier he said it was TOO HIGH.
n a reversal, Donald Trump expressed openness to raising the federal minimum wage during an interview on Wednesday.
“I'm looking at that, I'm very different from most Republicans,” the presumptive GOP presidential nominee told CNN Wednesday about the prospect of increasing wages.
“You have to have something you can live on. But what I 'm really looking to do is get people great jobs so they make much more money than that, much more money than the $15.”
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??? Earlier he said it was TOO HIGH.
n a reversal, Donald Trump expressed openness to raising the federal minimum wage during an interview on Wednesday.
“I'm looking at that, I'm very different from most Republicans,” the presumptive GOP presidential nominee told CNN Wednesday about the prospect of increasing wages.
“You have to have something you can live on. But what I 'm really looking to do is get people great jobs so they make much more money than that, much more money than the $15.”
His whole stance is "i'm bringing jobs good paying jobs back." He never said anywhere he's raising min wage.
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Illegals also don't collect any welfare, unemployment, or social security.
This is simply a huge lie.
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Illegals also don't collect any welfare, unemployment, or social security.
This is simply a huge lie.
Isn't there a fast track program for Cubans that gets them benefits and so on?
There's also DAPA and no action is taken to deport illegals who have children in the US. I'm assuming those citizen children are eligible for benefits/assistance.
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Isn't there a fast track program for Cubans that gets them benefits and so on?
There's also DAPA and no action is taken to deport illegals who have children in the US. I'm assuming those citizen children are eligible for benefits/assistance.
Cubans are considered "refugees", so they are not illegal the way other people are considered legal.
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Not really.
Again, as I've stated previously, they are doing the jobs which many people in the US seem to be too good to do.
You're not picking lettuce, and again, if you did, you will say you should make more money than they do by far.
But you can't have an argument to say 'well it's ok because it's just lettuce-picking'.
Because it hasn't stopped at lettuce-picking.
Where is it due to stop, and when?
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But you can't have an argument to say 'well it's ok because it's just lettuce-picking'.
Because it hasn't stopped at lettuce-picking.
Where is it due to stop, and when?
What jobs are illegals doing? They aren't doctors, or lawyers, or working in IT. They aren't building cars at Ford or GM.
I suppose they are cleaning tables... being bartenders.
There are some that paint houses on a very short term basis, but aside from a few jobs, what are they doing?
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No, but they cause Americans to. That's the problem.
You went on in this post to complain about those Americans, which means you're trying to have it both ways.
Bullshit. Illegals drain money. People don't realize there is a big budget item we pay taxes for to take care of illegals in hospitals and care. California spends billions on care for illegals.
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Bullshit. Illegals drain money. People don't realize there is a big budget item we pay taxes for to take care of illegals in hospitals and care. California spends billions on care for illegals.
The entire country spends 10.5 billion a year on healthcare for illegals... Drop in the bucket for a nation that spends 90 times that to blow up the rest of the world.
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The entire country spends 10.5 billion a year on healthcare for illegals... Drop in the bucket for a nation that spends 90 times that to blow up the rest of the world.
You are accepting statistics that are simply lies to push open border agenda.
2014 govt healthcare was 844 billion. The 20 plus million illegals are 6 percent of the population, that comes out to 50+ billion if it was just proportional, which it ain't.
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/03/Federal-Health-Care-Costs-Surge-17-Percent-GDP
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You are accepting statistics that are simply lies to push open border agenda.
2014 govt healthcare was 844 billion. The 20 plus million illegals are 6 percent of the population, that comes out to 50+ billion if it was just proportional, which it ain't.
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/03/Federal-Health-Care-Costs-Surge-17-Percent-GDP
Actually, you're making assumptions that healthcare costs are divided equally among the populace.
They aren't.
How many years have you not gone to the hospital or even the doctor?
I've had many.
Illegals go to doctors and hospitals less.
Many illegals simply don't get medical attention until it's an absolute emergency where many privileged middle class people will go to the doctor or the hospital if they get the sniffles.
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What jobs are illegals doing? They aren't doctors, or lawyers, or working in IT. They aren't building cars at Ford or GM.
I suppose they are cleaning tables... being bartenders.
There are some that paint houses on a very short term basis, but aside from a few jobs, what are they doing?
I hope you're not saying the "solution" is for all Americans to gain jobs in the UAW or be IT people, lawyers or doctors. Not sure that would work.
To say nothing of the fact our IT pool has been brought in from India. And many doctors have, too. So.
It doesn't work. We have too little opportunity for our people, now, and it is due to get worse by all signs including this. You are buying into the media version of events, and it is destroying this nation and all civilized places. We will become a wasted world of desperation if these ideas stay on track.
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I hope you're not saying the "solution" is for all Americans to gain jobs in the UAW or be IT people, lawyers or doctors. Not sure that would work.
To say nothing of the fact our IT pool has been brought in from India. And many doctors have, too. So.
It doesn't work. We have too little opportunity for our people, now, and it is due to get worse by all signs including this. You are buying into the media version of events, and it is destroying this nation and all civilized places. We will become a wasted world of desperation if these ideas stay on track.
No. I'm just saying that I see hard working people work hard.
That simple.
There are jobs out there... lots of them. Fuck, if you look around there are people looking for people to do all kinds of things all of the time.
What you're saying is that there are more people than jobs. That's not the case.
There are more jobs than people, but we have a society that doesn't appreciate hard work anymore and you say "illegals are taking jobs", but they aren't.
Citizens aren't applying for these jobs.
When there are more "illegals" leaving than coming in, what does that mean? Certainly those jobs should have been snatched up already, but they aren't.
Why not?
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I'd like to see a program to get our kids into medicine, without them having to be from rich homes (or India). Get as many of them into it as can be done, while still maintaining a certain standard. And start early.
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No. I'm just saying that I see hard working people work hard.
That simple.
There are jobs out there... lots of them. Fuck, if you look around there are people looking for people to do all kinds of things all of the time.
What you're saying is that there are more people than jobs. That's not the case.
There are more jobs than people, but we have a society that doesn't appreciate hard work anymore and you say "illegals are taking jobs", but they aren't.
Citizens aren't applying for these jobs.
When there are more "illegals" leaving than coming in, what does that mean? Certainly those jobs should have been snatched up already, but they aren't.
Why not?
How can you say both things at once?
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How can you say both things at once?
What are you talking about?
They are two different things.
1. Lazy people choose not to get jobs. - There are plenty of jobs.
2. Hard working illegals do low paying jobs.
I'd like to see a program to get our kids into medicine, without them having to be from rich homes (or India). Get as many of them into it as can be done, while still maintaining a certain standard. And start early.
I have no problem with that either, but part of the problem is that all college educations are expensive. More expensive than they are worth now to be honest. My age group had the last "affordable" college education as far as I can tell.
Medical degrees are going to be that much more expensive.
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What are you talking about?
They are two different things.
1. Lazy people choose not to get jobs. - There are plenty of jobs.
2. Hard working illegals do low paying jobs.
I have no problem with that either, but part of the problem is that all college educations are expensive. More expensive than they are worth now to be honest. My age group had the last "affordable" college education as far as I can tell.
Medical degrees are going to be that much more expensive.
No. That "more people are leaving than coming" and "there is plenty of opportunity". (or similar)
What does that mean?
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No. That "more people are leaving than coming" and "there is plenty of opportunity". (or similar)
What does that mean?
According to reports, and I can state what is written is that there illegal population has been going down.
Plenty of opportunity is just what is there. This is the US. Everyone has a chance. Sure, it's not perfect, but there is opportunity out there if you're not too scared or lazy to take it.
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According to reports, and I can state what is written is that there illegal population has been going down.
Plenty of opportunity is just what is there. This is the US. Everyone has a chance. Sure, it's not perfect, but there is opportunity out there if you're not too scared or lazy to take it.
If there's plenty of opportunity, yet you say the illegals are disappearing: how can it be explained?
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If there's plenty of opportunity, yet you say the illegals are disappearing: how can it be explained?
Ah... because as with anything times change.
Apparently the Mexican economy is picking up, so people are heading south.
That's all.
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Ah... because as with anything times change.
Apparently the Mexican economy is picking up, so people are heading south.
That's all.
Meaning the opportunities in America have become less desirable than the ones now available in Mexico?
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Do you see the connection, Tu?
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I don't see them as directly connected.
It just means the Mexico is more desirable than previous. Not that the US is less. We don't think the US is worse than it was because Canadians don't cross the border illegally do we?
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I don't see them as directly connected.
It just means the Mexico is more desirable than previous. Not that the US is less. We don't think the US is worse than it was because Canadians don't cross the border illegally do we?
Yes, it means that the value of work has been unfairly poisoned by what a country such as Mexico is up to (to say nothing of the other problem countries), and it is ridiculous for an American to have to take that.
Fact is, if we could create proper trade agreements, we could set-up Mexico so their people wouldn't want to uproot, and we could finally get back to having American values. America values work, and the American doing the work.
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Yes, it means that the value of work has been unfairly poisoned by what a country such as Mexico is up to (to say nothing of the other problem countries), and it is ridiculous for an American to have to take that.
Fact is, if we could create proper trade agreements, we could set-up Mexico so their people wouldn't want to uproot, and we could finally get back to having American values. America values work, and the American doing the work.
So Canadians aren't taking our jobs though right?
Why is that?
Why is it that these trade agreements are only bad when the people are south of us?
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So Canadians aren't taking our jobs though right?
Why is that?
Why is it that these trade agreements are only bad when the people are south of us?
Canada has an enormous advantage in that they are not bordered by hundreds of millions of desperate people in Mexico, Central and South America.
They have kept their shit together much better than us, too, not to mention their collective sanity.
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And how does Canada treat illegal labor? IDK, am asking.
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Canada has an enormous advantage in that they are not bordered by hundreds of millions of desperate people in Mexico, Central and South America.
They have kept their shit together much better than us, too, not to mention their collective sanity.
That has nothing to do with "taking jobs though".
And how does Canada treat illegal labor? IDK, am asking.
I don't know either. Honestly.
Knowing Canada is more liberal they probably don't jump up and down over it.
There are a few countries I would move to and Canada is on the list of course.
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That has nothing to do with "taking jobs though".
I don't know either. Honestly.
Knowing Canada is more liberal they probably don't jump up and down over it.
There are a few countries I would move to and Canada is on the list of course.
I think few countries are so relaxed with it as America. But I can't imagine many Canadians would have much desire to come here, since they probably like their country and feel it is holding course well enough. It is a much less insane place to be than America right now, I'm sure.
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And I don't think they have many of the problems which cause Mexicans and the others to come here.
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And I don't think they have many of the problems which cause Mexicans and the others to come here.
Possibly. I would have to research a lot more to have an educated comparison.
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Trump supports letting anyone pee anywhere. He's with obama on this one. It's driving repubs nuts.
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I think we should do away with indoor restrooms entirely and have more wooded areas.
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I think we should do away with indoor restrooms entirely and have more wooded areas.
Yes!! With lots of banana trees.
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Intredasting analysis of Mr Trumps use of Twitter - quite enlightening...
What I learned analyzing 7 months of Donald Trump's tweets
by Zachary Crockett on May 16, 2016
Donald Trump's Twitter is a running stream of insults, slogans, and media commentary. But since this huge repository of rhetoric is operated by Trump himself, it also offers a glimpse into his unlikely rise.
So I decided to analyze it.
http://www.vox.com/2016/5/16/11603854/donald-trump-twitter (http://www.vox.com/2016/5/16/11603854/donald-trump-twitter)
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Trump supports letting anyone pee anywhere. He's with obama on this one. It's driving repubs nuts.
When did he say that? Do you have the link?
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I'm glad you asked - FOX news has been very quiet about the GOP frontrunner's position on this.
Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-transgender-bathrooms-222257#ixzz48sZhqvsR
There's his quotes, and for those who still refuse to believe it, you can watch the video of it here:
http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-joins-today-show-live-town-hall-answers-voters-t87551
April 21st, as soon as the issue became national news. Ted Cruz shit all over Trump for it.
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Huge difference between legal and illegal immigrants.
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Huge difference between legal and illegal immigrants.
There's a pretty big grey area between them, chaos.
As I posted earlier; Cubans get fast-tracked and begin receiving forms of public assistance almost immediately.
Also, employers sponsor visas to fill positions and leave qualified American workers in the cold.
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Trump is just at the right place at the right time. Hillary is so vile and disgusting that people would vote for a sewer rate if it meant not having to see her mug for 4 years. He's like the dirty alternative. Do you want to fuck the crack whore with HIV or the HIV slut addicted to crack?
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/boston-men-jailed-for-trump-inspired-hate-crime-attack/ar-BBt84xe?ocid=spartandhp