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I was just watching some YouTube videos. I came across the 1988 Mr. Olympia.
It made me think of that bodybuilding documentary that Tom Platz hosted which looked at the sport in the lead up to this contest.
It was held in Los Angeles that year.
Wow! Amazing prejudging. :o
I was never a fan, but Rich Gaspari won this contest. Berry DeMey is the clear runner-up. Lee Haney should've been third.
Haney's legs looked weak, especially from the back. Really bad. Also, no way near as hard as Gaspari or DeMey.
I've never seen Gaspari this good. I realize it now, Gaspari photographed terribly.
There are three pro guys who photographed poorly. Gaspari is number one. Samir Bannout is another. He always looked bloated in his photos.
Dorian Yates is the third. Totally different on video and in person.
Here is the video. If you want to jump, start at 3:30. Haney, Gaspari and DeMey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icONgoLUDec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icONgoLUDec)
It's these three guys and then everybody else. 8)
All I know is that I have new respect for Gaspari after seeing this.
Here is the bodybuilding documentary that Platz hosted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF8jsrdgGD0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF8jsrdgGD0)
Great old school pro bodybuilding.
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HI Rich
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Who's the idiot calling out the poses.
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I was just watching some YouTube videos. I came across the 1988 Mr. Olympia.
It made me think of that bodybuilding documentary that Tom Platz hosted which looked at the sport in the lead up to this contest.
It was held in Los Angeles that year.
Wow! Amazing prejudging. :o
I was never a fan, but Rich Gaspari won this contest. Berry DeMey is the clear runner-up. Lee Haney should've been third.
Haney's legs looked weak, especially from the back. Really bad. Also, no way near as hard as Gaspari or DeMey.
I've never seen Gaspari this good. I realize it now, Gaspari photographed terribly.
There are three pro guys who photographed poorly. Gaspari is number one. Samir Bannout is another. He always looked bloated in his photos.
Dorian Yates is the third. Totally different on video and in person.
Here is the video. If you want to jump, start at 3:30. Haney, Gaspari and DeMey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icONgoLUDec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icONgoLUDec)
It's these three guys and then everybody else. 8)
All I know is that I have new respect for Gaspari after seeing this.
Here is the bodybuilding documentary that Platz hosted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF8jsrdgGD0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF8jsrdgGD0)
Great old school pro bodybuilding.
absolutley that’s one of the best ever Mr Olympia introductions in History I brought that when it came out on VHS in 1989...the bodybuilders back then actually had personality’s...as did the 1990s bodybuilders, and if I recall correctly they actually weighed the competition OFFICALLY before the 88 O began...those weights you see on the captions are their ACTUAL bodyweights
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HI Rich
LOL! ;D
But seriously, definitely new respect there.
I have a lot of old mags with Gaspari interviews and training articles.
His physique never grabbed my attention.
I'd read them and move on.
I don't know what made me watch the video and I have to figure I've seen it before.
It just seems so obvious here. A good case can be made for Berry, but I think Rich takes it.
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Who's the idiot calling out the poses.
Wayne DeMilia, no?
absolutley that’s one of the best ever Mr Olympia introductions in History I brought that when it came out on VHS in 1989...the bodybuilders back then actually had personality’s...as did the 1990s bodybuilders, and if I recall correctly they actually weighed the competition OFFICALLY before the 88 O began...those weights you see on the captions are their ACTUAL bodyweights
Yep. It's in the documentary, J1.
It doesn't show everyone being weighed, but you see quite a few.
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Wayne DeMilia, no?
Yep. It's in the documentary, J1.
It doesn't show everyone being weighed, but you see quite a few.
No
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I was at the show. Gaspari was holding water at the beginning of the prejudging, got harder/drier as he posed. Haney still dominated, one of the best V-tapers of the modern era.
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wow.
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HI Rich
X2.
WooSHHHH TA NA KA
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Strydom overdieted.
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Who's the idiot calling out the poses.
I believe that was Dominick Certo
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Backs.. DeMey, Haney, Samir Bannout ;)
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I believe that was Dominick Certo
Thanks John
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I remember getting that "Pump for Gold" or "Battle for Gold" documentary when it came out around 1989 (somehow on VHS).
Really enjoyable. Pumping Iron, then Battle for Gold, hard to beat for BB documentaries.
Those shitty Generation Iron ones are just putrid...
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I met Lee at Gold’s Venice after the ‘88 Olympia. Honestly, pictures didn’t come close to doing him justice.
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Haney was too big though and his body just exploded into poses, but i agree his legs were soft in comparison to gaspari and demay, still a worthy winner overall imo
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I was at the show. Gaspari was holding water at the beginning of the prejudging, got harder/drier as he posed. Haney still dominated, one of the best V-tapers of the modern era.
It doesn't look like he was holding water in the video.
That's prejudging right there.
Even if it wasn't given to Rich, then DeMey is next.
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I didn't see the show in person but I also thought Lee was a clear winner from the video. He dwarfed everyone else. This was the only Mr. Olympia since the '70's where they weighed all the competitors. A lot of people were surprised at some of the low body weights of the competitors. Strydom was expected to weigh in the 240 range and he was in the low 220's, Gaspari was expected to be in the 220's and he weighed 208 and Mike Quinn was also supposed to be in the 220 range and he only weighed 204. However, when Haney stepped on the scale and weighted 243, it was game over.
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What does weight have to do with anything?
It's not a pie eating contest.
Haney dwarfing DeMey or Strydom? Don't think so.
He's not even dwarfing Rich.
Plus, each guy mentioned is at least twice as hard as Haney.
And Haney' legs were terrible from the back. Calves are just awful too.
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No
That is definitely Wayne weighing guys in the documentary.
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I didn't see the show in person but I also thought Lee was a clear winner from the video. He dwarfed everyone else. This was the only Mr. Olympia since the '70's where they weighed all the competitors. A lot of people were surprised at some of the low body weights of the competitors. Strydom was expected to weigh in the 240 range and he was in the low 220's, Gaspari was expected to be in the 220's and he weighed 208 and Mike Quinn was also supposed to be in the 220 range and he only weighed 204. However, when Haney stepped on the scale and weighted 243, it was game over.
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:)
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Gary Strydom disappears when he turns to the back
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Gary Strydom disappears when he turns to the back
From top-to-bottom DeMey is beating Haney in this pose. I don't care how good Haney's back is.
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was ralf muoller super tall dude?
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Bob Paris looked the best.
But it's history now and you can't change history unless you're Wiggs and then you make one up to suit your fucking ego. ;D
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was ralf muoller super tall dude?
Yes about 6'7. He still hangs out with Arnold all the time.
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From top-to-bottom DeMey is beating Haney in this pose. I don't care how good Haney's back is.
DeMey was sheer physical perfection. He had everything, nothing was missing. This might have been his best showing ever. It was tragic that his pec tear the following year cut his competitive career short.
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Haney
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Who's the idiot calling out the poses.
I don't know his name, but I too was disgusted with his behaviour.
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wow these guy's looked incredible. this is what bodybuilding should look like today. Strydom was unbelievable from the front. Demey was great from top to bottom maybe the most complete bodybuilder on stage. Haney the clear winner though.
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Haney
;)
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:)
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:)
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Look at DeMey's back in that last picture. :o
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Look at DeMey's back in that last picture. :o
Sick !!
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:)
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DeMey was sheer physical perfection. He had everything, nothing was missing. This might have been his best showing ever. It was tragic that his pec tear the following year cut his competitive career short.
I wouldn’t say his career got cut short. He did compete in 1990. But he got disqualified at the 1990 Mr. Olympia then he went to the WBF. He returned to the IFBB in 1993. He retired after that.
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I know the money temptation was strong from McMahon, but he should've stayed in the IFBB.
He had a real shot at the Sandow.
Even without DeMey...
1988 Rich Gaspari
1989 Lee Labrada
1990 Lee Labrada
Haney got three gifts.
Five Olympia titles, but no eight.
Dorian and Ronnie got some gift titles as well.
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I wouldn’t say his career got cut short. He did compete in 1990. But he got disqualified at the 1990 Mr. Olympia then he went to the WBF. He returned to the IFBB in 1993. He retired after that.
The pec tear got to his head. Maybe more than it should have, because it wasn't career-ending
Here he is in '93
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=627702.0;attach=718212;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=627702.0;attach=718213;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=627702.0;attach=718214;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=627702.0;attach=718215;image)
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I know the money temptation was strong from McMahon, but he should've stayed in the IFBB.
He had a real shot at the Sandow.
Even without DeMey...
1988 Rich Gaspari
1989 Lee Labrada
1990 Lee Labrada
Haney got three gifts.
Five Olympia titles, but no eight.
Dorian and Ronnie got some gift titles as well.
At least three gifts. And I am in total agreement with you as regards Labrada. He had an excellent physique and should have been Mr. Olympia at least once or twice.
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The pec tear got to his head. Maybe more than it should have, because it wasn't career-ending
Here he is in '93
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=627702.0;attach=718214;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=627702.0;attach=718215;image)
Most competitors looked great at the 1993 NOC but this was one of Clairmonte's best showings. Cottrell got a huge gift there; in my opnion Munzer should've won.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=181543.0;attach=213090;image)
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At least three gifts. And I am in total agreement with you as regards Labrada. He had an excellent physique and should have been Mr. Olympia at least once or twice.
That's because you are a wise man, sir.
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Most competitors looked great at the 1993 NOC but this was one of Clairmonte's best showings. Cottrell got a huge gift there; in my opnion Munzer should've won.
I remember Bob Wolff writing that some people like the look of Munzer's physique and some don't.
I know what he's saying.
It's a great physique and he is probably the most ripped pro ever, but there is something that doesn't completely grab me.
He's not blocky. He's not missing bodyparts. But it doesn't completely get me.
The only thing I can think of that describes my thoughts is the word flow. It doesn't quite flow as well as one would think even with that level of quality muscle and detail.
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Insane quads on Munzer.
(http://bundles.sfd.pl/ObrazkiSFD/ZdjeciaSFD3_large/c434adb2b99749b88652b3ab9021ae65.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/b6/88/23b688c528061e6e58ebf1c8a77e68d4.jpg)
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No doubt that his training and dieting discipline was second to none.
Drugs aside, one has to be doing some serious work to look like that.
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Demey looked good in the 91wbf show
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I wonder if he ever regretted jumping to the WBF. ???
Politically, it all but destroyed his chances of ever being Mr. Olympia
But it was good money... and one has to pay the bills.
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Phil Hill was a thick mofo. flamed out pretty quickly though. didn't he and Mike Quinn get into a fight back stage at this show?
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I wonder if he ever regretted jumping to the WBF. ???
Politically, it all but destroyed his chances of ever being Mr. Olympia
But it was good money... and one has to pay the bills.
Yes, it was a political mistake, but I don't think Berry De Mey would have won the Mr. Olympia regardless. I think you could make an argument for him coming 2nd in 1988, after Rich Gaspari or Lee Haney - depending on whether or not the primary judging criteria was shape or conditioning. The judges had no problem giving the title to Haney, despite him not being anywhere close to conditioned as Gaspari and De Mey.
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Phil Hill was a thick mofo. flamed out pretty quickly though. didn't he and Mike Quinn get into a fight back stage at this show?
That was one of the Grand Prix shows after the 1989 Olympia. Mike Quinn told me that Phil Hill coldcocked Ron Love and Quinn saw it so he grabbed Phil Hill from behind to break it up.
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Yes, it was a political mistake, but I don't think Berry De Mey would have won the Mr. Olympia regardless. I think you could make an argument for him coming 2nd in 1988, after Rich Gaspari or Lee Haney - depending on whether or not the primary judging criteria was shape or conditioning. The judges had no problem giving the title to Haney, despite him not being anywhere close to conditioned as Gaspari and De Mey.
Probably true.
Also, he failed the 1990 drug test at the Mr. Olympia in Chicago.
I wonder how he looked going into that Olympia.
I've never seen any pictures of him leading up to the contest.
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That was one of the Grand Prix shows after the 1989 Olympia. Mike Quinn told me that Phil Hill coldcocked Ron Love and Quinn saw it so he grabbed Phil Hill from behind to break it up.
He hit a cop?
What a dumb shit!
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Look at DeMey's back in that last picture. :o
not to mention mike Quinn's holy shit that's a great twisting back shot
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That was one of the Grand Prix shows after the 1989 Olympia. Mike Quinn told me that Phil Hill coldcocked Ron Love and Quinn saw it so he grabbed Phil Hill from behind to break it up.
With all respect i wouldnt take Mikes word on this. That guy is just crazy himself!
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With all respect i wouldnt take Mikes word on this. That guy is just crazy himself!
I remember reading about it in one of the magazine's back then. I didnt remember the article mentioning Love but according to the story Quinn battered Hill. WTF were they fighting about? I can't imagine Hill standing A chance against Love.
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I remember reading about it in one of the magazine's back then. I didnt remember the article mentioning Love but according to the story Quinn battered Hill. WTF were they fighting about? I can't imagine Hill standing A chance against Love.
According to all the stories from quinn and love, it was a sucker punch from Phil.
Regardless Phil hill was robbed at the 88 Olympia. He should've placed much higher
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Here's the part of the interview where Mike Quinn talks about the fight -
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Here's the part of the interview where Mike Quinn talks about the fight -
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ha, cool thanks for sharing!
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Quinn is such a physical mess now.
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Here's the part of the interview where Mike Quinn talks about the fight -
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Thanks John!