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This lift works 90% of skeletal muscle. I can accurately predict an athletes 40 yard dash and vertical simply by his trap bar deadlift to weight ratio. The front squat and back squat are not as accurate. The moment I add these in my routine I immediately gain 3-4 pounds of muscle and gain immediate thickness. Guys avoid them because they aren't as hardcore as regular deadlifts, but I've learned to put my ego at the door and for me time is money. I'm not competing in a powerlifting meet any time soon so why would I bother with conventional deadlifts? You can generate more power with trap bar deadlifts compared to a conventional deadlift and use more weight which will translate to more hypertrophy, power, and strength over time. Strongly recommend these fellas, all my back problems have gone away as well.
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Don’t know where to start on the 40/Vert calc based on a trap bar DL, but if that’s what you believe, more power to you
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What back issues have you had bro?
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Same could be said of any heavy compound movement if done correctly..hence the term “compound movement”
Bench
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I've just started doing trap bar deadlifts. A safe and effective exercise. Very underrated. EVERYONE should be doing these.
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What back issues have you had bro?
Was the weirdest thing. Was doing heavy good mornings one day with 315, which was stupid as hell but I was really trying to push my dL to 700 at the time. Next day I could barely walk or get out of bed. Took a few weeks off, and hurt it again front squatting. Took another two weeks off, hurt it back squatting. Couldn’t even do trap bar deadlifts at that point. Finally took two months off and didn’t load the spine at all, so far so good been doing these 3 weeks with no pain and I’m gaining my old size back. I never go over 585 though, no belt, really concentrate on perfect form. I enjoy them.
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I do standing overhead presses with the TB. Feels better on the shoulders than conventional for me.
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I've just started doing trap bar deadlifts. A safe and effective exercise. Very underrated. EVERYONE should be doing these.
Agree. Pure functional strength gains
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Much easier on the lower back, specially for those of us w/ disc problems. Best is to the original where the handles are inline with the bar, and not the raised ones.
Though those work fine too. I stand on a small wooden box at the gym to make up for the raised handles.
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"Everything works for 6 weeks." -- Dan John
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"Everything works for 6 weeks." -- Dan John
Lot of truth to that
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This lift works 90% of skeletal muscle. I can accurately predict an athletes 40 yard dash and vertical simply by his trap bar deadlift to weight ratio. The front squat and back squat are not as accurate. The moment I add these in my routine I immediately gain 3-4 pounds of muscle and gain immediate thickness. Guys avoid them because they aren't as hardcore as regular deadlifts, but I've learned to put my ego at the door and for me time is money. I'm not competing in a powerlifting meet any time soon so why would I bother with conventional deadlifts? You can generate more power with trap bar deadlifts compared to a conventional deadlift and use more weight which will translate to more hypertrophy, power, and strength over time. Strongly recommend these fellas, all my back problems have gone away as well.
Deadlifts overrated exercise. I see young punks in the Gym lifting heavy weights on Deads with little back development.
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Deadlifts overrated exercise. I see young punks in the Gym lifting heavy weights on Deads with little back development.
Conventional deadlifts I definitely agree. The trap bar deadlift just makes me thicker everywhere and I find my other lifts go up quite a bit from it
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Conventional deadlifts I definitely agree. The trap bar deadlift just makes me thicker everywhere and I find my other lifts go up quite a bit from it
More efficient lift with a trap bar.
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Deadlifts overrated exercise. I see young punks in the Gym lifting heavy weights on Deads with little back development.
Spoken like a true phaggot who never deadlifts because it's hard work!!! Deadlifts do work stop being a pussy!!
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Spoken like a true phaggot who never deadlifts because it's hard work!!! Deadlifts do work stop being a pussy!!
sounds like you are one of the Gym Punks with no back. :D
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I can accurately predict an athletes 40 yard dash and vertical simply by his trap bar deadlift to weight ratio.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f0/2e/10/f02e10fa563f7d62143353e6168cae35.jpg)
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Deadlifts overrated exercise. I see young punks in the Gym lifting heavy weights on Deads with little back development.
Why don’t you go back to the Edge and do some pulldowns bro
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Why don’t you go back to the Edge and do some pulldowns bro
Chins..i chin wide grip & row. I bet half you can´t chin 10 good reps with only bodyweight.
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This is making me think of buying a trap bar.. any good recommendations? I need at least 500 capacity.
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This is making me think of buying a trap bar.. any good recommendations? I need at least 500 capacity.
why only 500?
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This is making me think of buying a trap bar.. any good recommendations? I need at least 500 capacity.
Cap Mega Hex -
www.amazon.com/Barbell-Weight-2-Inch-Plated-Olympic/dp/B076MKQF1P .
The Rogue Trap Bars are nice too, very clean, and made in the USA, but $300 - 375.
In truth, you don't need an expensive one just one that has good sized sleeves (16"+), and good inside depth. Those two have it.
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Straight bar - Hip dominant
Trap bar - Knee dominant
There's the difference.
I'll use a straight bar for linemen/backers because that's close to the stance they are on the line. Trap bar for skills because of the more upright, athletic stance they're in.
https://instagram.com/p/Bc27lEYBFZX/
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Chins..i chin wide grip & row. I bet half you can´t chin 10 good reps with only bodyweight.
Bro I’ve seen you do pulldowns at the Edge 😎
When you coming back to the Edge I need a spot on db presses
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why only 500?
At least... ............
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Cap Mega Hex -
www.amazon.com/Barbell-Weight-2-Inch-Plated-Olympic/dp/B076MKQF1P .
The Rogue Trap Bars are nice too, very clean, and made in the USA, but $300 - 375.
In truth, you don't need an expensive one just one that has good sized sleeves (16"+), and good inside depth. Those two have it.
Thankyou!
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Just go to the local quarry and pick up boulders.
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Tried this first time tonight. Is 180kgs a good max? I found parallel hand grip a bit unstable. Do you slightly stagger the had grips?
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At least... ............
you should have said, because I will be only using them for upright rows
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I read that trap bar bs in Men's Journal too by that football personal training "guru" whose name escapes me. I think it's Flaherty? Tired of these training facilities trainers that take credit for an athlete being an athlete. No they were amazing before you told them to do 3 sets of 3 in the trap deadlift.
If you want to know someone's vertical leap and 40 time see what they can power clean. Take two 185lbs athletes and I guarantee you the football player that cleans 300lbs is faster than the guy doing 225lbs. Sprinting is power. Olympic lifting should be called powerlifting and power lifting should be called strength lifting.
I can deadlift around 75lbs more with a trap bar in the deadlift because the handles are higher so there is a less range of motion. It is more leg dominant and less lower back dominant than regular deadlifts. Nothing wrong using it.
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you should have said, because I will be only using them for upright rows
LOL no. but my best dead was 515 for 1, doing 505 racks from knee currently and my squats are currerntly 495 x 6, so I think that I willl need at leaast 500 weight capacity, hope to work back up to that in time.
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"Everything works for 6 weeks." -- Dan John
Truer words where never spoken.
A trap bar gripping placement lines the body up better with the total load to be lifted, though not always perfect for some guys. But an improvement over regular DL bars, where the knee's tend to direct that the body lean forward (too much perhaps with sloppy form or body type) when raising/standing to finish the lift. Not the most ideal angle for the spine/lower back/pelvic region. Feet placement can also be improved with a trap bar. Plus the advantage of a more natural grip, thumps forwards and arms more inline with the sides of the body . For a lot of guys, not having to worry about the knees scrapping the bar and being in a bad position of extending forward relieves some of the mental pressure. ( I believe lifting can be 50% mental, perhaps more at times).
Can think of at least a dozen different trap bar styles, a few circular.. I prefer where the grips are not raised but parallel with the bar. Seen some home made trap bars which were pretty functional. Some made with heavy duty industrial piping (not meant for extra heavy loads). And one made from 6X6's with re-bar handles (wear gloves or use pads might be a good idea). It worked very well, even with heavy loads.
Good Luck.
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I broke down, went for it, and ordered this. I wonder if it's a good substitute for squats too. putting 495 on my back and walking it back is not the safest thing ever... so maybe.
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I broke down, went for it, and ordered this. I wonder if it's a good substitute for squats too. putting 495 on my back and walking it back is not the safest thing ever... so maybe.
Try belt squats. All you need is a belt and chain with a link and two sturdy boxes. No load on the spine at all
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Try belt squats. All you need is a belt and chain with a link and two sturdy boxes. No load on the spine at all
there would be enormous load on lower spine at higher weights.
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Jefferson lift.
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"Everything works for 6 weeks." -- Dan John
;D ;D ;D
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Tried this first time tonight. Is 180kgs a good max? I found parallel hand grip a bit unstable. Do you slightly stagger the had grips?
It's unstable at first but once you get comfortable with it after a few weeks, you should find it quite easy to control. BTW, some trap bars such as the one used in my gym weighs 30kg so you your max might be 10kg more then you think.
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Madness.
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Madness.
Yes it´s supposed to be a Zercher squat... ;D doing what he did is crazy.
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Try belt squats. All you need is a belt and chain with a link and two sturdy boxes. No load on the spine at all
https://instagram.com/p/BVBwzL1hSuy/
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https://instagram.com/p/BVBwzL1hSuy/
Big wheels Right there :D
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Big wheels Right there :D
Nah, just a guy that likes to train.
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Nah, just a guy that likes to train.
results? could get legs like that with free Hand squats..LOL
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results? could get legs like that with free Hand squats..LOL
We use it more for hip mobility and tight hips
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We use it more for hip mobility and tight hips
Aha...
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We use it more for hip mobility and tight hips
nice bro science
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I can deadlift around 75lbs more with a trap bar in the deadlift because the handles are higher so there is a less range of motion. It is more leg dominant and less lower back dominant than regular deadlifts. Nothing wrong using it.
Handles are higher on some models. I have both that one, and the one with the handles in line w/ the bar. (Lower).
Both are fine. If you want to compete in odd-lifts (USAWA) like my wife does, then you need to use the original, with the lower handles.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Trap_bar.png)
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Harness/hip lifts (advanced form of belt squats) are an exceptional movement and huge weight can be lifted...1,200-1,500 plus.
More strength is generated when a weight is lifted from below ,or at the hip line ,than if that same weight was placed on the shoulders; squat position bar on top of the shoulders or placed in the front squat position. A lifter is taking full advantage of his potential strength like never before. with harness lifts.
When lifting in a harness lift, it's pure, raw strength of the hips, glutes and chain of leg muscles all the way down to the feet. Can do 5 reps of squats with 400..than might be doing 500-550 with a Harness belt with that same 400lbs..
I still prefer the BB Hack squat over regular DL's. The weight is in a more natural line to be lifted, with the bar behind you, knee's not in the way and body not over extended leaning forward. . Nothing against a trap bar, used many versions with good results. Also for overhead pressing, hi-pulls, etc.
Good Luck.