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Title: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 07, 2019, 02:18:44 PM
I've noticed that Las Vegas jas been devising new and better ways of separating you from your hard earned income .... and no one seems to give a damn!

I call it 'cheaing' but the casinos refer tto this change in tactcs as ..."just another way of doing business necessitated by the tourists' lack of interest in gambling ... and a preference towards chef prepared  food andwell known enteraiment."

Some of you GetBiggers may be planning a  trip to Las Vegas this year and
since I consider mtself to be the all-knowing Las Vegas guru expert .... I'll start this off by offering some LV advice and make myself available if you have any question on how to get the BEST BANG for the bucks you spend while you're here in Sin City.

First of all if you want to have a good time .... be prepared to spend a lot of money.... and how to spend that money wthout be CHEATED nor SCAMMED.

Not too long ago you could get a decent, mid-week, hotel room along the Strip for $39 a night plus tax which amounted to less than $44/night and just a wee bit higher on the weekends.

But now-a-days those sme hotels advertise the same mid-week rates but fail to mention the 'resort fee' unless you are accustomed to reading the very small print which states "plus $39 resort fee'.

And in mnany cases .... that fine print ain't even printed until you see your bill at check-out time. Nor is tahere even a resort within the area.

So the lesson here is .... If you see a decent advertisd  LV hotel room price....consider it to be a lie and keep on reading that small print to see the truth. And then look for a LV hotel that does not have resort fees.

But you ain't gonna find one  ....

So the price you end up payi!ng will be double the price you read as advertised.

For instance some LV hotels advertise daily rates of $49 put you won't see the real 'honest' rate until you read the fine print and see that that $49 fee does not include theb hotel room tax and the outrageous, so-called 'resort fee' which will more than double that enticing $49 offer.

I consider that to be a 'form' of cheating, but these hotels think otherwise because the tourists still arrive and  seldom object.

NEXT UP .... The casino keeps some money that they owe ya and you don't even know it!





Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: ratherbebig on February 07, 2019, 02:39:23 PM
$39 sounds more like a motel
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Skeletor on February 07, 2019, 02:46:20 PM
Don't forget the paid parking schemes that MGM Resorts introduced and then almost all others followed suit.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Hypertrophy on February 07, 2019, 02:51:22 PM
Now that gambling is everywhere in the USA, Vegas is just a soso theme park in the middle of nowhere. Might as well go to Phoenix instead- there aren’t any resort fees 😁
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: mazrim on February 07, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
I saw all of those fees when I was looking. They weren't that hidden. Usually use Airbnb anyways. Got a great condo in Henderson.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: XFACTOR on February 07, 2019, 04:21:12 PM
I saw all of those fees when I was looking. They weren't that hidden. Usually use Airbnb anyways. Got a great condo in Henderson.

Henderson Airbnb???  Jesus you guys are cheap. Who wants to stay in Henderson why bother going to Vegas.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: visualizeperfection on February 07, 2019, 04:41:36 PM
Henderson Airbnb???  Jesus you guys are cheap. Who wants to stay in Henderson why bother going to Vegas.


Have you considered listing your apartment on Airbnb?

Will your landlord allow you to sublet?
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: XFACTOR on February 07, 2019, 05:01:50 PM

Have you considered listing your apartment on Airbnb?

Will your landlord allow you to sublet?
Lol. I am the landlord.

Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: ratherbebig on February 07, 2019, 05:05:05 PM
any trailerpark in vegas by any chance?

asking for a friend
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: mazrim on February 07, 2019, 05:51:29 PM
Henderson Airbnb???  Jesus you guys are cheap. Who wants to stay in Henderson why bother going to Vegas.
Are you braindead? Do you have any idea what it looked like? Also, maybe, just maybe, some people aren't interested in being directly downtown. There is more to do than go to casinos, etc. (Red Rock Canyon). Expand your horizons a bit, slugger.

From your posts, you give off the impression of someone who is pointed out as being the douche/tool of the room.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: SF1900 on February 07, 2019, 05:52:56 PM
Henderson Airbnb???  Jesus you guys are cheap. Who wants to stay in Henderson why bother going to Vegas.

XFactor, I suspect that Mazrim is not a big balla like you!
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: SF1900 on February 07, 2019, 05:54:39 PM
Are you braindead? Do you have any idea what it looked like? Also, maybe, just maybe, some people aren't interested in being directly downtown. There is more to do than go to casinos, etc. (Red Rock Canyon). Expand your horizons a bit, slugger.

From your posts, you give off the impression of someone who is pointed out as being the douche/tool of the room.

People only think XFactor is a tool bc they are likely jealous of him.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: mazrim on February 07, 2019, 05:55:21 PM
XFactor, I suspect that Mazrim is not a big balla like you!
I don't think anyone is.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: che on February 07, 2019, 06:01:09 PM
People only think XFactor is a tool bc they are likely jealous of him.

Exactly ,one of the richest man in Canada ,with a beautiful wife , great physique and very smart children.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: SF1900 on February 07, 2019, 06:01:35 PM
I don't think anyone is.

Maybe Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: SF1900 on February 07, 2019, 06:02:52 PM
Exactly ,one of the richest man in Canada ,with a beautiful wife , great physique and very smart children.

Stop it! I’m starting to get tingly all over when you talk about Xfactor like that.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: che on February 07, 2019, 06:23:01 PM
Stop it! I’m starting to get tingly all over when you talk about Xfactor like that.

Huge cock also
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: myt1 on February 07, 2019, 07:06:20 PM
I always used to read about how it was such an attraction for seniors.  As I'm inching towards my 60's (still far away), I'm wondering why anyone that age would want to be around a bunch of partying and noise?  Seems like it'd make a person really depressed thinking about how life used to be.  :-\

I've been there once.....I'm good.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: XFACTOR on February 07, 2019, 07:15:49 PM
Are you braindead? Do you have any idea what it looked like? Also, maybe, just maybe, some people aren't interested in being directly downtown. There is more to do than go to casinos, etc. (Red Rock Canyon). Expand your horizons a bit, slugger.

From your posts, you give off the impression of someone who is pointed out as being the douche/tool of the room.

You go to Vegas for those red rocks??? Lol why not go to Utah or Sedona? Vegas to see the red rocks Jesus
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: SF1900 on February 07, 2019, 07:17:39 PM
You go to Vegas for those red rocks??? Lol why not go to Utah or Sedona? Vegas to see the red rocks Jesus

XFactor, can you believe these plebeians?!?!?
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 07, 2019, 08:03:39 PM
RATHERBE, Actually that $39 room rate was for a mid-week room at the Barbury Coast. And if you played one of the slots there for 20 minutes or so, some employee in a cowboy hat would come by and offer you a coupon or two for a damn fine steak dinner in the upscaled, wild west, coffee shop.

Back then in them good old days the Barbury Coast resembeled a fancy wild west bodillo, but now it's called The Cromwell and has been remodeled to look like a mausoleum with room rates of about $120+, plus resort fees, plus hotel room taxes, plus parking.

And bad Blackjack pay-offs of even money or 6 to 5. (Bad enough that smart/wise  Blackjack players/experts avoid it like the plague.)

I'll explain those Strip casino pay-off details ASAP, but in the meantime it's best to play Blackjack off the Strip if you are looking for an honest game.
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And no more complimentary steak dinners in that Cromwell place either.

Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: ratherbebig on February 08, 2019, 02:45:37 AM
i dont go to vegas to save money i go to vegas to lose money
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 08, 2019, 04:30:44 AM
Resort fees are going on in Atlantic city too.  I go to a casino once a month for a stay over. Newest trick is telling people their room isn't ready at the customary 3P check in. They don't want you hanging in the room but out on the floor spending money. If they give you the room at 8PM they know the odds are you will spend from 3P to 8P spending money and won't stay in the room once you get the key. Had this experience in Harrah's. Everyone was complaining. Never had that experience before.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 08, 2019, 04:47:11 AM
If you are just looking for a good time and a place to spend money Vegas is great.  If you actually want any chance of making money gambling you are better off in Reno, Primm or small towns like Beatty.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: XFACTOR on February 08, 2019, 07:37:18 AM
i dont go to vegas to save money i go to vegas to lose money

If you live by this you'll have a great time! Their loyalty points are really good.  Harrah's group always comp my stay and a show at their properties.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Powerlift66 on February 08, 2019, 07:59:35 AM
Went to Vegas once (a few years back for a "Palo Alto Networks" trade show) what a shit-show, hope to never go back.

Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Mr Anabolic on February 08, 2019, 08:01:40 AM
I've noticed that Las Vegas jas been devising new and better ways of separating you from your hard earned income .... and no one seems to give a damn!

First of all if you want to have a good time .... be prepared to spend a lot of money.... and how to spend that money wthout be CHEATED nor SCAMMED.

Vegas and other gambling/casino towns are all about cheating and scamming people out of their money.  How do you think all that was built and maintained?  Get a clue bud.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 08, 2019, 08:42:48 AM
OK, Most of you GetBiggers won't believe this shit, but it's the absolute truth.

I've been a casino nerd since the age of 18 when we used to gamble while on ski trips to Lake Tahoe ... and after all those years of sitting at Blackjack tables and standing at Craps tables, I can honestly say that I am still ahead when it come to my overall gambling bankroll.

For you non-gamblers that means .... I've won much more than I've lost!

Some call it 'skill' and some just say, "You're damn lucky!", but I say it's a combination of both and .... the family members whom I taught to play the game ... can attest to that.

I'm a minnow ($5 tables) and I play for fun and I am familiar with the odds and I sit at first base while playing basic strategy (Blackjack) and leave that table if  one or two others at that table don't know what the hell they're doing.

Blackjack ... I buy in for $100 at a $5 table (off the Strip) and if and when I lose $50 at that table, I switch to another table or quit entirely.

(Buy In with only the amount you have no fear of losing. That is critical!

With a $100 buy-in, I'm usually satisfied with a $20 -$70 dollar win .... and usually cash in with a smile on my face .... Usually because I had a few drinks, but mostly because I have more money than I had when I first entered this casino.

Basic Strategy is the key ... as well as a willingness to quit while ahead.

I don't recall ever losing my $100 bankroll, but have lost half of it occasionally .... BUT ... I enjoy the game a lot and figure that that $50 loss was worth it ... and if I was at some nightclub I'd spend more that $50. But my 'cocktails' while playing BJ only cost the price of a tip.

And I don't drink a hell of a lot.

BUT ... I have failed to mention that I NEVER-NEVER play Blackjack on the Strip and  ...... I'll explain exactly why in my next post.



Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 08, 2019, 09:25:59 AM
I’m old school when it comes to casino action.

$1 Blackjack tables.
Single deck.
3 - 2 BJ pay.
Hand shuffle.
Free cigarettes by the pack.
Free drinks by loudly saying, “Cocktails!”.

Each of the above perks has gradually disappeared over the years and I seem to be the only one complaining loudly enough that a good number of the pit bosses on the Strip look away when they see me coming.

At present my two biggest and LOUDEST Blackjack complaints are that the Strip casinos (almost all of them) only offer minimum tables of $10 and KEEP SOME OF YOUR WINNINGS when you get a Blackjack,

If you decide to play Blackjack in an off-Strip casino or down on Fremont Street, you can sit at a $3 table at one casino (The Cal) or $5 tables in the other downtown casinos.

A $3 or a $5 minimum table allows you to play longer  and possibly win with a limited bankroll … or lose it more slowly than those $10 minimum tables on the Strip.

And to the best of my knowledge all casinos on the Strip only pay 6 - 5 when you get a Blackjack, but local and downtown casinos pay the official 3 - 2 as per he original ‘rules’ of the came.

So here’s how the Srtrip Casinos keep some of YOUR MONEY when you get a winning Blackjack hand.

Place a $10 BJ bet on the Strip and get a BJ and you are paid at a rate of 6 - 5. … so you win $6 for ever $5 bet … and that means a win of $12.

But if you play that same $10  at an honest casino where a BJ pays 3 - 2  …. you win $15,

So if you compare the above … you can see that the Strip casino is keeping $3 of your ‘winnings' every time you get a BJ with a $10 bet.

I find it strange that this 6 - 5 pay is alllowable by the Games Commission and why anyone with a bit of smarts would even play the game when you allow the casino to keep some of your winnings.

Nowadays it appears that the vast majority of the individuals playing Blackjack on the Strip are either newbies  who’ve  never heard  of “3-2” or college kids who just don’t give a damn…  while the smart players who know the game go elsewhere where it is relatively easier to  go home with more money than when you left.

So … DON’T PLAY BLACKJACK on the Strip unless you can find a 3-2 table. But remember … it’s most likely gonna be a $10 minimum.

And now you gotta watch out for those CONTINUOUS SHUFFELING MACHINES! They are slowly creeping in.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: OneMoreRep on February 08, 2019, 12:58:54 PM
Man, all this casino talk has got me wanting to play Poker.

Getbig needs to sponsor a Las Vegas Poker event.

"1"
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 08, 2019, 01:24:05 PM
ONE, I never play POKER mainly because these Poker players here in Vegas are too damn smart and I'm a very bad lier when it comes to bluffing.

But they say that Poker is the best way to win lots of money.

If I were to play poker in a casino, that would mean lots of my money, so I only play poker with a few friends a couple of times each month.

But they also take all my money ... so I depart early and head down to one of the local casinos and win it back playing Blackjack.

One, Do you ever play Poker here in Vegas? And in what casino?

And is it possible for the ANTI to wipe out one or more players at the table providing that he or she plays long enough?
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 08, 2019, 01:42:37 PM
ONE, I never play POKER mainly because these Poker players here in Vegas are to damn smart and I'm a very bad lier when it comes to bluffing.

But they say that Poker is the best way to win lots of money.

If I were to play poker in a casino, that would mean lots of my money, so I only play poker with a few friends a couple of times each month.

But they also take all my money ... so I depart early and head down to one of the local casinos and win it back playing Blackjack.

One, Do you ever play Poker here in Vegas? And in what casino?

I play Hold Em at the $30 tables at the nicer casinos on Sun-Thurs. On those nights there is a higher probability the local sharks are there without the out of town wild players. With a pro I know what to expect in most cases. I've been doing this for years and it works pretty consistently. I sit down and know I have about 45min to an hour to work because when they catch on, they start playing you tight and then they will eventually outplay you. I pick a hand or two to call when I clearly shouldn't but I make sure it's not too expensive. If I get lucky and win, that cool because they'll know I got lucky and shouldn't have stayed in. After one or two of those, I go to playing my usual conservative style, and will have someone stay with me when they normally wouldn't. I can make $300-$700 before they start respecting me and that's when I get up and leave. I know head to head, over time, they are much better than I am, it's what they do for a living in some cases. But for that adjustment period, I have the advantage.

To Stuntmans advice. It is all good, but MOST tourists coming to Vegas just want a good time, and don't care if the BJ is 6-5, they'd rather give the house a better edge and play in a shiny big casino on the Strip than a place like Terribles where the odds are better. They are only there a couple days and just want the Vegas experience. Locals would be foolish to play anywhere BUT places like Barbary Coast or similar places with better odds. 
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Mr Anabolic on February 08, 2019, 01:45:53 PM
Funny thing about gamblers... they always talk/brag about how much they won, but never how much they lose.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 08, 2019, 01:51:22 PM
Funny thing about gamblers... they always talk/brag about how much they won, but never how much they lose.

Its psychological. I've been guilty myself. I have an app on my phone I use to track it so there is no kidding myself
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Hypertrophy on February 08, 2019, 01:57:53 PM
Gambling is like playing the stock market- unless you are playing with big sums of money you are just jerking off. And the casinos know that. That’s why the small time players get a haircut whenever they come to Vegas. The golden age is over stunt- Vegas is a joke now. I actually stayed at the Stardust so yeah, I know how good it used to be.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 08, 2019, 02:09:03 PM
I remember staying at the Frontier Casino in 1991 and having to walk through a line of picketers to get in. I think I paid for one night there.. The standard comp was if you got a suited blackjack, you got a silver coin good for a free night. I would have 8 or 9 at the end of the evening and would give some away.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 08, 2019, 03:28:31 PM
AGNOSTIC, Thanks for your poker insight. What is your casino of choice for Poker play?

I thoroughly agree with ya about LV visitors non-concern regarding 3-2 nor 6-5. I think that you gotta be a local who plays frequently (such as myself) to give it any concern.

My nephew and his wife could care less as long as they are playing in The Wynn or the Encore which now no longer offer the perks of the good old days. Now they charge parking fees and exhorbitant Resort fees even when the pool areas are closed during the winter months.

So I join them when they're in town and they indulge me by playing at one of the rare $15 BJ tables and surprise me with complimentary parking for the next few days.

They simply give up the 'honest' pay-outs for the comfort and enjoyment of the Wynn Resrts atmosphere while I silently bitch and moan about that damn 6-5 ... which is my God given right as a local LV desert rat.

Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: OlympiaGym on February 08, 2019, 03:36:18 PM
Lots of broke dudes on Getbig.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 08, 2019, 03:46:24 PM
HYPER, You go back a while as a result of mentioning THE STARDUST.

Back when Harry Berosini (spelling??) and His Chimps was the main Stardust attraction (Lido De Paree) we had a very loose connection with the 'boyz' and were treated as special guests at both The Sands and the Stardust while my friend was out  in the desert digging a hole someplace.

AGNOSTIC, I also walked through that FRONTIER picket line to see Sigfried and Roy do all sorts of magical shit with those white tigers which were no further than 6 feet from the very tip of my nose.

I felt fortunate that I did not have a steak on my plate!

Thanks for the kick to my head. Those were the great days of Las Vegas which none of us will ever see again. You're right in that it will never be the same ... but it gave us something to remember and talk about.

YEP! When the boyz left ... so did the greatness of Las Vegas!

But they did leave a good number of holes out there someplace.



Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: OneMoreRep on February 08, 2019, 04:09:55 PM
ONE, I never play POKER mainly because these Poker players here in Vegas are to damn smart and I'm a very bad lier when it comes to bluffing.

But they say that Poker is the best way to win lots of money.

If I were to play poker in a casino, that would mean lots of my money, so I only play poker with a few friends a couple of times each month.

But they also take all my money ... so I depart early and head down to one of the local casinos and win it back playing Blackjack.

One, Do you ever play Poker here in Vegas? And in what casino?

And is it possible for the ANTI to wipe out one or more players at the table providing that he or she plays long enough?

Stunt, last time I was in Vegas was back around 1999. I was visiting an old family member (he died around 2007) and stayed there for about 2 weeks. I remember we stayed at Terribles and then went to Silver Sevens because we met up with other friends and it just seemed like a better place to us at the time, plus can you really beat unlimited pancakes?

In terms of an ante, I play hold'em, really deal with blinds. But if an ante is what you mean, then I guess it's possible to wipe out other players given enough time at the table. And by wipe out, I mean that if they have low cash/chips on hand, they might not have enough to sit for the games anymore. Ante's even it out for everyone to have the right to see the cards.

"1"
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Rascal full on February 08, 2019, 04:32:54 PM
Stunt is the Magic and Movie Hall of Fame still open? I think it is somewhere between the Flamingo and the Imperial, can't remember exactly where but I loved that place.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 08, 2019, 04:45:50 PM
ONE, Thanks! I also stayed at TERRIBLES, but it was called The COSMOPOLITAN or something like that before Mr. Terrible somehow got invoved and then somehow it becane SILVER SEVENS.

As to its name ... I could be wrong on all three counts but the price was right back then (about $35 with no resort fee nor any parking charge) and I stayed their often.

Back in the day they offered some kind of enticing gimmick to get ya jumping into the casino, but I forgot what that gimmick was.

And ... YEs, I do recall the all you can eat pancakes which you can still find in off the Strip casinos, but I've never been interested in pancakes enough to enquire about the price.

And since the subject of 'eating' has come up .... I've eaten/fine dined all over this desert valley and still have yet to find better food at decent prices than the food served at ELLIS ISLAND on Koval Road one block east ofthe Strip.

Even their $18 prime rib is among the best in town regardless of its price. And you just can't beat their $12 fish and chips!
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on February 09, 2019, 06:57:46 AM
Bringing back memories here. I remember when the Excalibur was new, I stayed there for I think 30 or 40 a night. Was a huge drinker and get shitefaced fast and rode the quarter machines all night. Back when you used coins, you have to lug around a bucket with you. Good times!

Garbage now. Long lines, everthing is expensive, pools are crowded with dicks. And don't drink anymore so losing hurts
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 09, 2019, 08:31:55 AM
RASCAL, I don't recall ever seeing the Magic and Movie Hall of Fame but I'm sure it ain't there no more and neither is the Imperial Palace which has been revamped and is now called The Linq which is situated beside a new 'mall' leadng to the High Roller (Ferris Wheel).

The mall in itself is pretty damn nice and has a number of bars and restaurants which get people off the Strip and above the crowd onto the Ferris Wheel which at last look cost about $20+ or more.

One friend attended someone's birthday party which was held in one of the wheel's 'cabins' along with an open bar .... and he claims that it is one of the great things to do here in LV ... and he's a local who setdom lies.

That mall is worth a lunch stop. It even has an In 'n Out!
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 09, 2019, 08:50:58 AM
OBVIOUS, I also stayed at rhe EXCALIBUR just about one week after it opened and here's what I recall about that place.

The mid-evil decor looked like shit.

The Sir Gallahad Prime Rib restaurant upstairs sevred a damn good slice of meat for around  $12. Not too many people were aware that that big mirror as you entered was 'haunted' ... meaning that it was designed to show a portrait of a ghostly image on rare occasions ... like every hour or so .... and everyone who worked in that place denied it .... making you feel like it really was hunted.

The four 3D ride attractions down below the casino floor. That was a LV attraction that  was way ahead of its time.

The poor kid whose job it was to dress up like the mid-evel, court jester and mime his way through the crowd in an attempt to get laughs.

Years later he got a similar job with the Cirque du Soleil Mystere show.

And if I recall correctly .. the big show there was in the arena and was something about majestic horses who did a lot of fancy dances. Now it's a dinner show with jousting knights.

And the casino floor looks the same as it did years  ago.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: chaos on February 09, 2019, 08:51:33 AM
Man, all this casino talk has got me wanting to play Poker.

Getbig needs to sponsor a Las Vegas Poker event.

"1"
Yeah....strip poker :-*
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: OneMoreRep on February 09, 2019, 08:54:41 AM
Yeah....strip poker :-*

Have you seen Grant as the lone wolf?

"1"
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: SF1900 on February 09, 2019, 09:00:01 AM
Yeah....strip poker :-*

Conehead, would you play strip poker with Mr. Goodrum?
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: OneMoreRep on February 09, 2019, 09:01:18 AM
Conehead, would you play strip poker with Mr. Goodrum?

SF,

Out of curiousity, who is the guy in your avatar?

I've always wondered whether it was Coach or that other bodybuilder Raymond that looks like the coach.

"1"
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: The Scott on February 09, 2019, 09:04:32 AM
I don't gamble because it's not gambling at all, I know I am going to lose.  I barely understand Solitaire on Windows, LOL!  I have a friend that regularly goes to Las Vegas is he said he is "comped" his room and meals as he usually spends around $5,000 gambling.  That seems like a lot to me but he is a self made millionaire and according to him, since he is of Asian descent gambling is in his DNA.

So it's not a  disease and it ain't his fault.  He cain't hep it!  ;D
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 09, 2019, 09:05:35 AM
CHAOS, STRIP POKER here in Vegs!

It's been done within the EXCALIBUR and may still be occuring in some casinos around town.

But it ain't the Strip Poker you most likely have in mind.

Rather ... A good looking or possibly even an ugly sripper stands on an elevated platform ajacent to the poker table and removes an article of clothing under certain conditions as the game  proceeds.

(Google: Strip Poker Excalibur) for full details.

Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Tapeworm on February 09, 2019, 09:07:35 AM
The entire city was built to bilk suckers.  That's its function.  It's a mecca of sleaze.  It's casinos and whores.  Srsly, if you go there what do you think is going to happen?  Do you imagine the casinos and whores are going to be all about a fair square deal?
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 09, 2019, 09:28:31 AM
TAPE, A lot of people feel exactly as you do regarding Las Vegas, but there are many such as myself who feel differently.

My personal feeling is that you gotta know this little town well and then  take advantage of the enicing shit it has to offer.

Only then will you see Vegas differently and really start to enjoy it.

And I am one of many who takes advantage of all the free stuff that is alwaysavailable .... without letting this town and its casino  take advantage of me!

Just a couple of perks for instance ... I don't drink much ...but I honestly can't recall ever paying for a beer, a straight shot, nor a cocktail in a casino (small tip excluded).

And every month I get free or haff price invites for great buffets or fine-dining dinners.

And if I want to stand in a 10 minute  casino line .. I can get free 'stuff' (hats, shirts, clocks, toastes, wine, liquor, etc) which make great Christnas presents for friends and neighbors.

And you always meet interesting people.

But the big thing about this town is ...  There is always something to do that is fun or exciting or boring as shit (such as watching a singer sing).

But still ... There are tons of peole out there who hate the shit that I seem to enjoy and appreciate.


Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Tapeworm on February 09, 2019, 09:52:51 AM
I guess Vegas fans would argue that it has a unique cultural attraction but, for me, the place would be less than zero fun.  Destinations which promise sensual indulgence don't really do it for me so I doubt I'll ever attend any of the world's famous Sin Cities.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: SF1900 on February 09, 2019, 10:03:42 AM
SF,

Out of curiousity, who is the guy in your avatar?

I've always wondered whether it was Coach or that other bodybuilder Raymond that looks like the coach.

"1"

It's Coach.  ;D ;D He said I could use it.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: OneMoreRep on February 09, 2019, 10:25:41 AM
It's Coach.  ;D ;D He said I could use it.

He looks so friendly there.

"1"
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: chaos on February 09, 2019, 10:32:01 AM
Have you seen Grant as the lone wolf?

"1"
I have now :-X ;D
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: OneMoreRep on February 09, 2019, 10:33:17 AM
I don't gamble because it's not gambling at all, I know I am going to lose.  I barely understand Solitaire on Windows, LOL!  I have a friend that regularly goes to Las Vegas is he said he is "comped" his room and meals as he usually spends around $5,000 gambling.  That seems like a lot to me but he is a self made millionaire and according to him, since he is of Asian descent gambling is in his DNA.

So it's not a  disease and it ain't his fault.  He cain't hep it!  ;D

I understand him.

I don't gamble on a regular basis, but at least once a year, I will go to Foxwoods or another close casino and play about $2,500-3,500 in poker. I know damn well that a pro will smoke me out if I stay at a table long enough, but I do it anyway. It keeps me honest. Makes me realize that as much as I am good with numbers and fast analytics, there are guys out there that do this for a living and who pay their bills by being regulars.

Here's a question for the obsessive gamblers here that have access to online poker sites with legalized gambling. I'm sure you've all seen websites that can give you the odds of playing each hand, be it at a 6 or 8 player table for poker. You enter the cards you have on hand,  the flop, turn vs river + number of players at the table and it gives you the odds of winning the hand based on all entered variables. Have any of you online poker gamblers played on a poker gambling site while having a separate laptop open next to you and used the odds calculator to maximize your true potential of winning? If so, has it worked? I've always wondered about the probable success of using this type of software while playing online.

"1"
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 09, 2019, 11:16:20 AM
OneMore, I'm unable to offer you an accurate answer because I am no Poker expert and only play a couple of times each month ... But arn't the pro-poker players capable of ding those sort of poker computations  without any out-side help assistance?


Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: OneMoreRep on February 09, 2019, 11:25:30 AM
OneMore, I'm unable to offer you an accurate answer because I am no Poker expert and only play a couple of times each month ... But arn't the pro-poker players capable of ding those sort of poker computations  without any out-side help assistance?

Pros can do that in their sleep.

I'm talking about the average guy that plays every week for fun but does so by gambling online. Have those guys utilize the poker software to give them an edge while playing and is it effective?

Gambling can be fun, but it's a lot more fun when it proves to be more of a sure thing by way of proper calculation of odds.

"1"
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 09, 2019, 01:22:19 PM
I understand him.

I don't gamble on a regular basis, but at least once a year, I will go to Foxwoods or another close casino and play about $2,500-3,500 in poker. I know damn well that a pro will smoke me out if I stay at a table long enough, but I do it anyway. It keeps me honest. Makes me realize that as much as I am good with numbers and fast analytics, there are guys out there that do this for a living and who pay their bills by being regulars.

Here's a question for the obsessive gamblers here that have access to online poker sites with legalized gambling. I'm sure you've all seen websites that can give you the odds of playing each hand, be it at a 6 or 8 player table for poker. You enter the cards you have on hand,  the flop, turn vs river + number of players at the table and it gives you the odds of winning the hand based on all entered variables. Have any of you online poker gamblers played on a poker gambling site while having a separate laptop open next to you and used the odds calculator to maximize your true potential of winning? If so, has it worked? I've always wondered about the probable success of using this type of software while playing online.

"1"

You gamble $3500 on one day? You must be loaded to have that kind of discretionary money to play with. We go down to AC once a month and the wife uses $100 bucks for the night.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 09, 2019, 02:57:59 PM
You gamble $3500 on one day? You must be loaded to have that kind of discretionary money to play with. We go down to AC once a month and the wife uses $100 bucks for the night.
Either loaded or a compulsive gambler.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: OneMoreRep on February 09, 2019, 03:04:49 PM
You gamble $3500 on one day? You must be loaded to have that kind of discretionary money to play with. We go down to AC once a month and the wife uses $100 bucks for the night.

Yes sir. Remember, I only go to a casino about once per year and by once I mean 1 day of the year. I go to let out the desire to gamble, almost serves as a cautionary tale for me not to pretend that I can go back.

Sometimes, I break even, most often times I leave with just half of what I started with.

"1"
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: ratherbebig on February 09, 2019, 03:11:20 PM
i never go to casinos so it looks like im saving thousands of dollars per year!!

now when i go on amazon it feels i got free money to spend, thanks guys
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: SF1900 on February 09, 2019, 06:38:01 PM
He looks so friendly there.

"1"

Among other things.  :D
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 09, 2019, 10:10:16 PM
TAPE, A lot of people feel exactly as you do regarding Las Vegas, but there are many such as myself who feel differently.

My personal feeling is that you gotta know this little town well and then  take advantage of the enicing shit it has to offer.

Only then will you see Vegas differently and really start to enjoy it.

And I am one of many who takes advantage of all the free stuff that is alwaysavailable .... without letting this town and its casino  take advantage of me!

Just a couple of perks for instance ... I don't drink much ...but I honestly can't recall ever paying for a beer, a straight shot, nor a cocktail in a casino (small tip excluded).

And every month I get free or haff price invites for great buffets or fine-dining dinners.

And if I want to stand in a 10 minute  casino line .. I can get free 'stuff' (hats, shirts, clocks, toastes, wine, liquor, etc) which make great Christnas presents for friends and neighbors.

And you always meet interesting people.

But the big thing about this town is ...  There is always something to do that is fun or exciting or boring as shit (such as watching a singer sing).

But still ... There are tons of peole out there who hate the shit that I seem to enjoy and appreciate.




Good post.For all Vegas isn't, and we all can agree it has lost it's luster, it still can be a lot of fun for those in the know 
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 09, 2019, 10:12:09 PM
You gamble $3500 on one day? You must be loaded to have that kind of discretionary money to play with. We go down to AC once a month and the wife uses $100 bucks for the night.

My daily allotment when I go to Vegas is $2000 a day.... but I started out at 50 a day
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 10, 2019, 09:27:03 AM
HEY! Speaking of Vegas ... Have any of you GetBiggers spent any time (plus lots of money) in one of our bigger night-clubs such as XS in the Wynn?

There are a whoole lot of those night-clubs and day-clubs now.

It all started with a major pool party at the phenominal HARD ROCK pool years ago and was the top day-pool-party in town until some guy decided to take a deep dive into the shallow end of the pool ... and came up dead.

I'm beyond my years of paying any amount of money to get into any facility that serves alcohol, but here in Vegas the younger generatons will pay $40 to enter and then pay $15 to $20 for a cocktail.

But more pay more by reserving a private table with a minimum purchase of $700+ (way plus) for a bottle of Vodka and a buket of ice with those little twizzel sticks or colorful umbrellas.

A $5,000 night on town is not unusual for a small group of friends.

PLUS ... Don't tell anyone but here's a true story about someone most GetBiggers either know or have read about. For privacy reasons, I'll call him "FREDO".

FRDO was a bodybuilder who could withstand a solid punch!

FREDO decided to throw a birthday party for his sister and five close friends in one of  this town's best nightclubs.

He made a reervation and was told that the minimum fee would be $5,000 on his credit card even before he got inside.

He said OK and gave the details.

So the birthday party starts around 11 pm that evening and they are all gathered at their private table with a few bottles of alcohol and all the mixes and other stuff that comes with it with the intent to have $5,000 worth of fun and intoxication .... when some guy at the next table (the bad guy) hits my friend (too long of a story to say why) and my friend who was a great boxer during his school days takes a solid punch without falling over and retaliates with his own solid punch to the nose of the perpetrator (the bad guy).

And blood goes flying all over and the bad guy ends up on the floor while the good guy (my friend) sits back down waiting for the security guys to do whatever security guys do do in a situation such  a this.

Ends up .. the good guy has to leave but would have to sign off on his card for whatever amount the bill came to ... as he did not want to ruin his sister's birthday even though he had to leave.

FIRE next door ...

False alarm!

Sorry but ... I thoght that story would be of interest.

But the main idea here is ... Vegas night life can be very expensive even if you're not there to enjoy it.

Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: HTexan on February 10, 2019, 10:21:52 AM
Poker and blackjack only 2 games you should play, and only if you know what you are doing.
Sometimes the only way to win is to not play at all.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 10, 2019, 12:33:09 PM
Poker and blackjack only 2 games you should play, and only if you know what you are doing.
Sometimes the only way to win is to not play at all.
Poker is the worst to play if you want to make money unless you are playing with a bunch of rubes.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 10, 2019, 03:00:59 PM
Just returned from ELLIS ISLAND CASINO.

Bought in for $100 (Blackjack) and departed with $150 and had a great Fish and Chips lunch before I left.

I whole-heartedly recommend dining at Ellis Island, but don't expect it to be too damn fancy.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 10, 2019, 03:22:58 PM
Stunt. Do you think Las Vegas grew to what it is today by giving away money?
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: stuntmovie on February 10, 2019, 09:30:43 PM
DIABLO, "Giving away money"?

I don't know exactly what ya mean because I've only seen money being "given away' a few times in which I was involved.

Once I won a chance to enter a 'contraption' in the old Riviera hotel which was a glass enclosure about the size of two telephone booths in which various denominations of US dollar bills were blown around by a large fan in the floor.

You stepped into that glass booth and the fan would blow all that money into the enclosed air while you attempted to grab as many of the bills as possible.

That was one way I saw them give money away.

The second money give-away was a common event in which Mr. Binion would walk among the slot macine players and give each of them a roll of nickles which they'd eventually lose in their nickle slot machine.

I guess that you could say that they "give money away' when they give me free stuff if I visit that particular casino on a particular day ... most recent free stuff was a digital bathroom scale on one day and a wall clock on another.

Plus I receive lots of free stuff in the form of buffet meals at least 2x a week.

But, as you know, they offer this free stuff as a form of enticement to get me in there to lose more cash than all that free stuff cost them to get me in there.

At one time (but no longer) this town didn't have to offer free stuff simply because offered a cheap vacation.

The Vegas hotel room rates made it more affordale to come to Vegas than the hotel room rates within any other city.

$39 room rates were common in Vegas years ago and the $2.99 cent buffet sealed the deal  but  now you gotta add a resort fee, a parking fee, a 13% tax fee .... and that buffet will set ya back another $14 - $45.

And don't be surprised if you see a 'toilet flushing fee' the next time you come to town.

If that happens ... I'll merely piss in the cornor or shit in the shower.



Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 11, 2019, 02:44:53 AM
Yes, old Vegas is long dead.  It used to be a great place for a cheap vacation but not anymore.  When I lived there 15 years ago it was cheap to live there as well.....not anymore.  Reno and other smaller towns in Nevada much better place to spend your money.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: 6 Reps on February 24, 2019, 04:55:48 PM
stunt,

As I wrote in a previous thread, I don’t care for the modern Las Vegas.  It’s now all Gucci, Prada, and Tiffany’s.  I liked the old tacky, cheap Las Vegas (I still haven’t gotten over paying $14.25 for a bourbon and ginger ale drink when I was there two years ago).

That said here’s a blast from the past.  Singer Louis Prima and his wife Gia Maione in front of a 1965 Imperial, and the Sahara:
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: myt1 on February 24, 2019, 05:35:30 PM
I'd still like someone to please explain this to me.  I'd use NFL, but these are numbers I saw recently for the upstart league:


The AAF Football League just started.  On Profootballtalk.com they gave the Vegas odds of each team winning the championship.  It was listed like +250, +450, +750, etc. for all 8 teams.  WTH does that mean?

If I put $100 on the +250, and another $100 on the worst team which I think was +2000; what happens if either of those teams win?  And what if they lose...I'm just out the $100 then right?
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 24, 2019, 08:58:05 PM
stunt,

As I wrote in a previous thread, I don’t care for the modern Las Vegas.  It’s now all Gucci, Prada, and Tiffany’s.  I liked the old tacky, cheap Las Vegas (I still haven’t gotten over paying $14.25 for a bourbon and ginger ale drink when I was there two years ago).

That said here’s a blast from the past.  Singer Louis Prima and his wife Gia Maione in front of a 1965 Imperial, and the Sahara:

For a taste of old las vegas...There is a place off the strip, called Piero's Italian Cuisine. It has been there through it all, and Pia Zadora (Those over 50 will know her) still performs there are Fridays... Great food.. great old Las Vegas flare... highly recommend it. You can still get the feel mob hits are being discussed in the booth next to you, The bar hasn't changed in decades and every big star known to man during the 60's 70's has been there
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 25, 2019, 09:55:16 AM
I'd still like someone to please explain this to me.  I'd use NFL, but these are numbers I saw recently for the upstart league:


The AAF Football League just started.  On Profootballtalk.com they gave the Vegas odds of each team winning the championship.  It was listed like +250, +450, +750, etc. for all 8 teams.  WTH does that mean?

If I put $100 on the +250, and another $100 on the worst team which I think was +2000; what happens if either of those teams win?  And what if they lose...I'm just out the $100 then right?

A positive number means that you'll win the listed number as profit for every $100 wagered.  If you put $100 on a +250 team and they win, you'll get your $100 back AND $250.  But if they lose, you're only out $100.

A negative number means that you'll have to bet $150 to profit $100 if that team wins.
Title: Re: Don't Let Las Vegas Cheat Ya!
Post by: myt1 on February 25, 2019, 06:34:06 PM
A positive number means that you'll win the listed number as profit for every $100 wagered.  If you put $100 on a +250 team and they win, you'll get your $100 back AND $250.  But if they lose, you're only out $100.

A negative number means that you'll have to bet $150 to profit $100 if that team wins.

Thanks!   8)

That was much easier to understand than I thought.  Kinda worked out nice that I picked $100 in my question, since you were able to explain so easily with the same figure.