It seems so many have.
Hearing from some friends in the iron-game, reading about some others in Forums, many are that gullible and followed the cherry-picking "movie's" advices.
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Use your own mind people, don't believe James Cameron (made his living in "made up Hollyweird stories"). (Plus his billions invested in the vegan industry now).
This doc, is just another one of those.
Thibaudeau puts a pretty good spin on it...
https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/the-game-changers-exposed
My belief is that the meat is supposed to be the garnish, not the giant slab that is normally served.
But these vegans who push their whacky religion, are just too far gone.
Yes, just cut out flour products and sugar makes a big difference in caloric consumption. ^
Flour products = bread, crackers, pasta, cookies, pastries, snacks of many kinds, etc.
Sugar = junk, soda, coffees from Dunkin', energy drinks, prepared foods of all kinds.
Where would Oreo cookies fall on that list?
You guys can throw your opinions around all you want. That's what this board is for. The fact remains, that if you're seeking optimal health, it's going to be through a whole food plant based diet. What you seek in animals can be found in plants without the side effects. With that said, what PL66 said is totally acceptable, the problem is most Americans dont use meat as a garnishment and they dont eat veggies and fruits regularly.
Because the American public is so sick, they could definitely use going vegan. If you're not trying to live long, have fun but there's no denying what brings optimal health, the studies have shown its plant based, whole foods.
Optimal health provides optimal fitness and the breeds optimal performance, endurance and durability.
I watched it and thought the same thing I always think when I watch these Vegan/vegetarian-centered pieces:;D
- eating meat sucks for the environment
- helpless animals are being bred and slaughtered for food sources
- the shit they pump into these animals aren't the healthiest of chemicals
- our digestive tracts are faced with difficulty when trying to digest animal sources of food
- There's most likely a connection between heart disease and eating very large amounts of animal food products over a lifetime
With these thoughts in mind, what I don't like is when any influential groups try to brainwash me into changing any of my practices, because they think it's their newfound calling to be the harbingers of truth when it comes to the evils of the meat industry. If you ask me what I think is healthier to consume throughout a lifetime, then yes, I would say that a Vegetarian/Vegan diet is probably best for your long-term physiological health. That said, I still want to have the luxury of choice when it comes to being able to eat any meat product when desired. I don't care too much about eating steak often, but if I felt like I, I'd like to be able to buy it. Over time, I've tried going partially meat-free in that I have been able to not eat red meat of any sort and/or chicken for long periods of time (over a year), but it is hard for me to not eat fish meat (Salmon + Octopus).
I don't mind these movies for what they are, a public service announcement based on the creators/people funding it, but just make sure to advertise that as openly as they do their anti-meat sermons. What I also don't like is their attempt at public brainwashing by using these pseudo-athletes. For those of you that are 40+, do you remember the old Milk campaigns back in the early 80's? "Milk, it does a body good!" Using guys like Michael Jordan with milk mustaches and what not to push the effort for people to consume more milk. Shit like that disgusted me back in the days and kept me from drinking milk for years. I found it to be a cheap attempt at brainwashing kids particularly, as they would air their propaganda in between the cartoons the kids would watch. Downright disgusting tactics. Brainwash the kids into wanting milk and it forces the parents to buy the shit. Arnold said it best, "milk is for babies".
Also, did anyone else think this guy just looked like a fat piece of shit that will most likely die of weight complications? I don't care how much he pretends to lift in his carnival-like shows of strength, he still looks like utter shit and his beard makes him look like that of a terrorist.
(http://www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/article_assets/10028/original/Vegan.jpg?ts=1573170176)
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I don't mind these movies for what they are, a public service announcement based on the creators/people funding it, but just make sure to advertise that as openly as they do their anti-meat sermons. What I also don't like is their attempt at public brainwashing by using these pseudo-athletes. For those of you that are 40+, do you remember the old Milk campaigns back in the early 80's? "Milk, it does a body good!" Using guys like Michael Jordan with milk mustaches and what not to push the effort for people to consume more milk. Shit like that disgusted me back in the days and kept me from drinking milk for years. I found it to be a cheap attempt at brainwashing kids particularly, as they would air their propaganda in between the cartoons the kids would watch. Downright disgusting tactics. Brainwash the kids into wanting milk and it forces the parents to buy the shit. Arnold said it best, "milk is for babies".
It seems so many have.
Hearing from some friends in the iron-game, reading about some others in Forums, many are that gullible and followed the cherry-picking "movie's" advices.
::)
Use your own mind people, don't believe James Cameron (made his living in "made up Hollyweird stories"). (Plus his billions invested in the vegan industry now).
This doc, is just another one of those.
Thibaudeau puts a pretty good spin on it...
https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/the-game-changers-exposed
My belief is that the meat is supposed to be the garnish, not the giant slab that is normally served.
But these vegans who push their whacky religion, are just too far gone.
You are entitled to your belief, but what is the basis for this? Why is meat supposed to be the garnish? There is no medical/scientific evidence that meat shouldn't be the main course, or that meat shouldn't be all a person eats. Look a those several top athletes who have been on an all meat diet for a long time and they are top performers in their sport, with no health issues or nutrient deficiencies.
On the other side of the spectrum, there are medical patients unable to exercise at all because they're on a wheel chair or have bad knees, yet they lose weight, get off their medications, and reverse their medical conditions on a mostly meat, ketogenic diet.
I just mean for myself really. I feel better that way. Not a fan of tons of meat being broken down, squirming thru me.
I like a small amount. And very rarely at that, like once a month for red-meat.
Chicken or fish almost daily, but even that gets tiring.
People can do what they want, dont care if they eat dog shite, just funny how people see a movie, and change their ways 180 degree's because others said so.
Never though to do their own research, make their own decisions. (Not told what to do by a cherry-picking docu).
Ive always eaten a salad/vege heavy diet. Havent gotten a burger at a real restaurant in many years, I normally go for the bean-burger.
Why? Again, I dont feel good on read-meat, not a fan of the digestion/sluggishness.
People can do what they want, dont care if they eat dog shite, just funny how people see a movie, and change their ways 180 degree's because others said so.
Never though to do their own research, make their own decisions. (Not told what to do by a cherry-picking docu).
I just mean for myself really. I feel better that way. Not a fan of tons of meat being broken down, squirming thru me.
I like a small amount. And very rarely at that, like once a month for red-meat.
Chicken or fish almost daily, but even that gets tiring.
People can do what they want, dont care if they eat dog shite, just funny how people see a movie, and change their ways 180 degree's because others said so.
Never though to do their own research, make their own decisions. (Not told what to do by a cherry-picking docu).
Ive always eaten a salad/vege heavy diet. Havent gotten a burger at a real restaurant in many years, I normally go for the bean-burger.
Why? Again, I dont feel good on read-meat, not a fan of the digestion/sluggishness.
All I know is that the older I get the harder it is to digest steak. I fucking love steak but these days I feel like utter shit for a couple days after. I will still have beef but in minor quantities.
What happened to eating a balanced diet and avoiding Netflixdocumentariesfaggotry?
In your opinion, what does a balanced diet mean?
For starters, not restricting a certain macronutrient/food group and blindly following the crowd. Everybody is looking for a panacea that doesn’t exist, and the opportunists like Arnold are licking their chops.
(https://www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/article_assets/10028/original/Vegan.jpg?ts=1573170176)
Didn't DLB and her hubby pretend to not eat meat for awhile and got sick or some shit?
You Shouldn't Eat Sulforaphane
Have you ever seen a horse eat meat? Their diet consists mostly of hay, grass, oats, fruits and vegetables. HTH
don't eat veggies = get cancer
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170307100402.htm
Humans are not horses. Humans eat horses.
For those of you that are 40+, do you remember the old Milk campaigns back in the early 80's? "Milk, it does a body good!" Using guys like Michael Jordan with milk mustaches and what not to push the effort for people to consume more milk. Shit like that disgusted me back in the days and kept me from drinking milk for years. I found it to be a cheap attempt at brainwashing kids particularly, as they would air their propaganda in between the cartoons the kids would watch. Downright disgusting tactics. Brainwash the kids into wanting milk and it forces the parents to buy the shit. Arnold said it best, "milk is for babies".
Just finished watching this, I’d never heard of it. Anyways, I think I’m going to try it for a week and see if there’s anything to it. Just gonna go ahead and order three meals a day from Fresh and Lean.
Did anyone else think of Falcon when they talked about “heme iron”?
Amazing info debunking game changers:
Turns out with new available testing methods the USDA is now considering doubling the recommended daily protein requirements. We need more protein!
Just finished watching this, I’d never heard of it. Anyways, I think I’m going to try it for a week and see if there’s anything to it. Just gonna go ahead and order three meals a day from Fresh and Lean.
Did anyone else think of Falcon when they talked about “heme iron”?
Rogan also had someone on to defend game changers, and he felt he did a superb job and backtracked on the debunking.
Humans are omnivores. Cut out sugar and processed crap, keep calories in check with goals, and you should be fine.
Just finished watching this, I’d never heard of it. Anyways, I think I’m going to try it for a week and see if there’s anything to it. Just gonna go ahead and order three meals a day from Fresh and Lean.
Did anyone else think of Falcon when they talked about “heme iron”?
(https://pics.me.me/woman-climbs-mount-everest-to-prove-vegans-arent-weak-dies-31255074.png)