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Title: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 07, 2021, 06:25:54 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/education/2021/07/07/joe-biden-promotes-four-more-years-of-free-government-education-as-teachers-union-pushes-critical-race-theory/


I’ll also add this to the communism thread as well
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: TheGrinch on July 07, 2021, 06:33:07 PM
PEDO for POTUS !!
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Moontrane on July 07, 2021, 06:52:34 PM
Two more years of public school mean a 28.6% increase in the number of teachers, who will be in a union, paying union dues, most voting Democrat.

But there's no long-term educational benefit from Pre-K education - any improvement disappears after the second grade - so this would be a government jobs program resulting in permanent increases in taxes and the number of Democrat voters.

What's a Democrat not to love about this?  ::)
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 07, 2021, 07:01:33 PM
Two more years of public school mean a 28.6% increase in the number of teachers, who will be in a union, paying union dues, most voting Democrat.

But there's no long-term educational benefit from Pre-K education - any improvement disappears after the second grade - so this would be a government jobs program resulting in permanent increases in taxes and the number of Democrat voters.

What's a Democrat not to love about this?  ::)

Every part of this is worrisome especially when it comes to indoctrination of our youth. They’ve been slowly indoctrinating since the 80’s now, like everything else they are not hiding it.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: AbrahamG on July 07, 2021, 07:34:41 PM
Two more years of public school mean a 28.6% increase in the number of teachers, who will be in a union, paying union dues, most voting Democrat.

But there's no long-term educational benefit from Pre-K education - any improvement disappears after the second grade - so this would be a government jobs program resulting in permanent increases in taxes and the number of Democrat voters.

What's a Democrat not to love about this?  ::)

This is so fucking stupid, I'll just walk away.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Moontrane on July 07, 2021, 08:42:11 PM
This is so fucking stupid, I'll just walk away.

Walk really fast from facts.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Moontrane on July 07, 2021, 09:39:00 PM
Walk really fast from facts.

Actually, run, Abe, run!  ;D

https://reason.org/commentary/universal-pre-k-may-not-be-as-good/
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/10/16/17928164/early-childhood-education-doesnt-teach-kids-fund-it
https://www.heritage.org/education/report/does-universal-preschool-improve-learning-lessons-georgia-and-oklahoma
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: bhank on July 08, 2021, 08:39:24 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/education/2021/07/07/joe-biden-promotes-four-more-years-of-free-government-education-as-teachers-union-pushes-critical-race-theory/


I’ll also add this to the communism thread as well

Giving people access to community college isn't communism. And educated public benefits everyone as people are more qualified to work and contribute to society. When we set up our public school systems a high school education was enough to get ahead in life. That is no longer the case we are going to fall behind the rest of the world if we don't send our next generation to college. College educated workers make more money and contribute more tax dollars and grow GDP and the economy more than high school graduates.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: residue on July 08, 2021, 08:45:01 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/education/2021/07/07/joe-biden-promotes-four-more-years-of-free-government-education-as-teachers-union-pushes-critical-race-theory/


I’ll also add this to the communism thread as well

is high school communism?
middle school?
grade school?
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 08, 2021, 08:47:12 AM
Education is communism.  The GOP view education as a threat to it's party base.  Without dumb people, they would dry up and blow away with the older generation dropping dead.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 08:50:00 AM
I see. You think 1619 and CRT should be taught?
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 08, 2021, 08:54:13 AM
I see. You think 1619 and CRT should be taught?

Just as much as evolution. 
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 08:58:21 AM
Just as much as evolution.

So for you that’s a yes. You’re all for teaching Marxism in school?
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 09:07:17 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/education/2021/07/07/joe-biden-promotes-four-more-years-of-free-government-education-as-teachers-union-pushes-critical-race-theory/


I’ll also add this to the communism thread as well

Maybe you can go back to college and study history now .
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 09:17:39 AM
Maybe you can go back to college and study history now .

Or maybe we can stop teaching our kids Marxism is good and  being white is bad and purged the “teachers”
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 09:34:49 AM
Or maybe we can stop teaching our kids Marxism island being white and purged the “teachers”

Please don't try to tell me what goes in schools. I was THERE for 31 years teaching physics.
I also coached a little football, track and soccer.

My last few years were at a small 2 yr college , so I  wasn't in the proverbial Ivory Tower of academia.
Over my career, I broke up a few fights , stood bus duty, chaperoned dances, etc.

I understand and share your disgust for the most "half baked" progressive agenda.
Things like  "gender neutral" public bathrooms disgust me .

You're a decent, hard working man and I've always respected you despite our political differences.
But, I've recently been annoyed with your thoughtless, "Pez dispenser "rants .
Now , you always  echo the Trump/republican talking points. You mindlessly quote and link the typical sources.

You've lost any semblance of independent thought when it comes to politics .
There is NOTHING wrong with being a strong passionate conservative.
BUT Freedom means speaking TRUTH , even when it's NOT popular with the leaders ( Trump, Obama or  Pres. Biden, etc)

We all know what the pro-Trump media thinks. I want to know what Coach thinks!
Use your own words and provide us with your own thoughts.
It doesn't take much critical thinking to recycle the same political opinion.

You used to have some unique views and OPINIONS. I miss that "asshole" ;), because he made me THINK
Please try to remember, if you want to LEAD the band, you need to turn your back to the crowd.

As always , I wish you continued success in your training biz .
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: bhank on July 08, 2021, 09:51:24 AM
I see. You think 1619 and CRT should be taught?

No but I went to Community College you know what I learned you know what classes I took? Accounting which has nothing to do with Communism of CRT
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 09:53:26 AM
No but I went to Community College you know what I learned you know what classes I took? Accounting which has nothing to do with Communism of CRT

Exactly the main point here!
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2021, 09:55:46 AM
Two more years of public school mean a 28.6% increase in the number of teachers, who will be in a union, paying union dues, most voting Democrat.

But there's no long-term educational benefit from Pre-K education - any improvement disappears after the second grade - so this would be a government jobs program resulting in permanent increases in taxes and the number of Democrat voters.

What's a Democrat not to love about this?  ::)

that's what studies have shown but why did you IGNORE THE OTHER HUGE BENEFITS TO BOTH THE KIDS AND SOCIETY?

I'm going to go ahead and assume you just didn't know it rather than intentionally not mentioning it

I'd rather give a kid free pre-school than have to pay for his/her incarceration, drug rehab, etc..
I assume the "sanctity of life" crowd would be on board with this along with the those who just care about other people and society as a whole



Quote
Early childhood education’s effects fade — except the ones that persist decades later

On the other hand, there’s an equally substantive body of research suggesting that early childhood education produces a profound, lifelong advantage. Kids who enter intensive preschool programs are less likely to be arrested, more likely to graduate, and less likely to struggle with substance abuse as adults. One study with a followup when the students were in their mid-30s found that they were likelier to have eventually attended and completed college.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/10/16/17928164/early-childhood-education-doesnt-teach-kids-fund-it
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: bhank on July 08, 2021, 09:59:27 AM
Also it is not free it is not communism we pay taxes getting something in return for payment is the definition of capitalism. I am all for ending all government programs as soon as they end all taxes but as long as they are taking half my income you godamn right I expect government services. The more I come on getbig the greater I feel the need is for more public education funding. I am tired of being surrounded by poo throwing monkeys I am literally willing to pay to educate you dumbfucks at this point
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: IroNat on July 08, 2021, 10:09:31 AM
https://www.merriam-webster.com

Definition of capitalism

: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market


Definition of communism

1a : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
b : a theory advocating elimination of private property
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d : communist systems collectively


Definition of socialism

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2021, 10:12:40 AM
https://www.merriam-webster.com

Definition of capitalism

: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market


Definition of communism

1a : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
b : a theory advocating elimination of private property
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d : communist systems collectively


Definition of socialism

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done


thanks for proving the the US is not a socialist country (for those idiots  who didn't know)
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 10:13:27 AM
Also it is not free it is not communism we pay taxes getting something in return for payment is the definition of capitalism. I am all for ending all government programs as soon as they end all taxes but as long as they are taking half my income you godamn right I expect government services. The more I come on getbig the greater I feel the need is for more public education funding. I am tired of being surrounded by poo throwing monkeys I am literally willing to pay to educate you dumbfucks at this point

Notice how most Trumpers use any Joe Blow as a verified , credible source to back their claims.
YET, they demand any counter be from a vetted , expert with credentials...then they still call it "fake news". ::)

My wife got a text claiming the country was going into martial law right after Jan 6 (with video proof).
Of course this video proof was some fat dude spouting the same nonsense on a  cell phone video seated in his car. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 10:14:56 AM
https://www.merriam-webster.com

Definition of capitalism

: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market


Definition of communism

1a : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
b : a theory advocating elimination of private property
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d : communist systems collectively


Definition of socialism

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

definition of a brain dead moron :

Posts the same shit without using any critical independent thought. :D
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 10:20:33 AM
Maybe you can go back to college and study history now .

Here Howard...educate yourself

https://www.prageru.com/video/what-is-critical-race-theory

https://www.prageru.com/video/parents-stand-up-to-school-boards-against-marxist-critical-race-theory

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/08/9-years-ago-andrew-breitbart-revealed-obamas-ties-to-critical-race-theory-godfather-and-corporate-media-waved-it-away/
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: IroNat on July 08, 2021, 10:21:30 AM
thanks for proving the the US is not a socialist country (for those idiots  who didn't know)

Government provided pre-school would be socialism just as government provided school education is.

There are many socialist programs in the U.S.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 10:23:05 AM
thanks for proving the the US is not a socialist country (for those idiots  who didn't know)

You’re absolutely clueless
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 11:40:14 AM
Here Howard...educate yourself

https://www.prageru.com/video/what-is-critical-race-theory

https://www.prageru.com/video/parents-stand-up-to-school-boards-against-marxist-critical-race-theory

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/08/9-years-ago-andrew-breitbart-revealed-obamas-ties-to-critical-race-theory-godfather-and-corporate-media-waved-it-away/

I know what those folks think about CRT.

I want to know what YOU think.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 08, 2021, 11:52:25 AM
Notice how most Trumpers use any Joe Blow as a verified , credible source to back their claims.
YET, they demand any counter be from a vetted , expert with credentials...then they still call it "fake news". ::)

My wife got a text claiming the country was going into martial law right after Jan 6 (with video proof).
Of course this video proof was some fat dude spouting the same nonsense on a  cell phone video seated in his car. ;D ;D

If she wants to see a fat dude spouting bs all she needs to do is look at you.   :)
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 08, 2021, 11:57:43 AM
CRT is horrible in grade schools, high schools.

Though anyone with even 1/2 a brain knows it doesn't belong (except for maybe college courses that are signed up for).
I like the guys here (Straw and Lurker) just curious if you guys have young kids?
If so, do you want them being taught that they are inherently racist just from their skin color? I'd say that's pretty racist thinking right there.

People are pushing back against this and more states are banning it (our state just did).

Stick to math (which is also racist I guess) reading and writing. Dont try to raise kids a certain way.
Don't hand out BLM pins, Pride pins, etc. in schools. If so, then "White Power" pins would also be OK, otherwise the school is being racist.

Its just a shit-show of mental illness these days...
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 12:28:17 PM
I know what those folks think about CRT.

I want to know what YOU think.

You didn’t watch. It’s not what they think it’s a definition of CRT
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 12:37:56 PM
You didn’t watch. It’s not what they think it’s a definition of CRT
No, I obviously didn't watch the linked videos. How often to watch dem leaning videos or read dem articles ? >:(
I've seen and heard the views from BOTH sides and don't totally agree with either.

Soooooooooooo, I made up my own mind.  ;)

If you want to know what my view is on CRT, just ask and I'll give my bullet points.
However, if you don't care , I'll leave it at this.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 08, 2021, 12:40:01 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 12:58:00 PM
;)

20+ years ago, I was very active in the Libertarian Party.
I had major problem with them on issues like pollution laws.

They felt you could just sue if someone polluted.
I felt that wasn't practical because , the land , air or water was already polluted.
It's like saying ,don't have laws against murder and just have wrongful death  suits.

LOL, unless you can resurrect the dead, a few bucks doesn't bring back a dead person.
PLus, if the murderer is poor, you really can't get much in a civil suit.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: TheGrinch on July 08, 2021, 03:23:01 PM

LOL, unless you can resurrect the dead, a few bucks doesn't bring back a dead person.


yes... because making murder illegal now has stopped people from committing murder..


typical lib mentality...LOL



(http://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/73/73f1a0f6031d17b461ecafa88e58f71d.jpeg)
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2021, 04:54:11 PM
CRT is horrible in grade schools, high schools.

Though anyone with even 1/2 a brain knows it doesn't belong (except for maybe college courses that are signed up for).
I like the guys here (Straw and Lurker) just curious if you guys have young kids?
If so, do you want them being taught that they are inherently racist just from their skin color? I'd say that's pretty racist thinking right there.

People are pushing back against this and more states are banning it (our state just did).

Stick to math (which is also racist I guess) reading and writing. Dont try to raise kids a certain way.
Don't hand out BLM pins, Pride pins, etc. in schools. If so, then "White Power" pins would also be OK, otherwise the school is being racist.

Its just a shit-show of mental illness these days...

CRT IS NOT IN GRADE SCHOOLS OR HIGH SCHOOLS



Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Moontrane on July 08, 2021, 05:00:23 PM
that's what studies have shown but why did you IGNORE THE OTHER HUGE BENEFITS TO BOTH THE KIDS AND SOCIETY?

I'm going to go ahead and assume you just didn't know it rather than intentionally not mentioning it

I'd rather give a kid free pre-school than have to pay for his/her incarceration, drug rehab, etc..
I assume the "sanctity of life" crowd would be on board with this along with the those who just care about other people and society as a whole

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/10/16/17928164/early-childhood-education-doesnt-teach-kids-fund-it

President Carter's administration created the Dept. of Education.  It's purpose was to produce better outcomes in public education.  It has failed but it still exists and has only grown in size.

His admin also created the Dept. of Energy in response to the oil embargo to make us energy secure.  Since its creation we didn't become a net energy exporter until the Trump admin, but now we are back to being a net energy importer, thanks to Biden-Harris' policies.

Pre-K was conceived to produce better educational outcomes.  It failed - acknowledge that - but the Left have backed-in other rationales for it.  28.6% more teachers with no improvement in education - progressives are over kvelling at the idea.  They should rename it daycare and defend it as such - but they won't.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 05:06:45 PM
yes... because making murder illegal now has stopped people from committing murder..


typical lib mentality...LOL



(http://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/73/73f1a0f6031d17b461ecafa88e58f71d.jpeg)

Ok? That's exactly the  point I was trying to make  ???
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 05:17:09 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/education/2021/07/07/joe-biden-promotes-four-more-years-of-free-government-education-as-teachers-union-pushes-critical-race-theory/


I’ll also add this to the communism thread as well

It's too bad you weren't born 90 years ago, so you could have been a staffer for  Sen Joe McCarthy's
Sounds like he was your kind of politician.

Isn't the term "McCarthyism" used to describe an over zealous , political witch hunt? ;)
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Moontrane on July 08, 2021, 05:29:29 PM
CRT IS NOT IN GRADE SCHOOLS OR HIGH SCHOOLS

It's the middle of summer, LOL!!!  You won't be able to make that claim when school starts this fall.

Do you want it in K-12?  It's coming here to CA.

https://www.hoover.org/research/californias-education-department-chooses-critical-race-theory-over-100000-objections

California’s Education Department Chooses Critical Race Theory Over 100,000 Objections
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 05:31:48 PM
It's too bad you weren't born 90 years ago, so you could have been a staffer for  Sen Joe McCarthy's
Sounds like he was your kind of politician.

Isn't the term "McCarthyism" used to describe an over zealous , political witch hunt? ;)

This isn’t close to “McCarthyism”. There’s nothing unfounded about what the goal of the left is here. This is blatant, in your face and no one on the left is denying it. Call it the opposite of McCarthyism. All the way from BLM admitting their Marxism to the left politicians backing them. If you disagree their views, well, you’re “cancelled”, called a racist, your business protested and called “racist”, churches, etc Things like this (this is just an example) that’s are attempted infringements on your first amendment rights. And like I said before, don’t get me started on the infringements on the Second Amendment. Because without one you can’t have the other and they, the political left knows this.

“Becerra said the quiet part out loud: The government owns the American people now after handing out stimulus checks and loans during the forced shut down”

Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 05:33:42 PM
It's the middle of summer, LOL!!!  You won't be able to make that claim when school starts this fall.

Do you want it in K-12?  It's coming here to CA.

https://www.hoover.org/research/californias-education-department-chooses-critical-race-theory-over-100000-objections

California’s Education Department Chooses Critical Race Theory Over 100,000 Objections

Straw thinks it’s going to be an actual class not knowing it is/will be embedded within curriculum
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2021, 05:41:32 PM
CRT is non-existent in K-12

CRT is taught in graduate school and law school

It wasn't an issue until Trumptards went looking for something new to get their base of idiots freaked out about

After they couldn't milk any more outrage out of Dr. Suess and Mr. Potato Head this became their new boogey man

They will conflate ANY teaching of ANYTHING about race and history as CRT

It's Republicans latest Straw Man argument


Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 05:49:22 PM
CRT is non-existent in K-12

CRT is taught in graduate school and law school

It wasn't an issue until Trumptards went looking for something new to get their base of idiots freaked out about

After they couldn't milk any more outrage out of Dr. Suess and Mr. Potato Head this became their new boogey man

They will conflate ANY teaching of ANYTHING about race and history as CRT

It's Republicans latest Straw Man argument

It’s this thought process by the left that causes everything they've done or tried to blow up in their faces
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2021, 05:51:28 PM
It’s this thought process by the left that causes everything they've done or tried to blow up in their faces

still waiting for you to post a single k-12 school that is teaching actual CRT

here's a link to the class at Harvard Law School which appears to be from 2014 (not even sure if it's still part of the curriculum there at the moment)

https://hls.harvard.edu/academics/curriculum/catalog/index.html?o=67608
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 08, 2021, 05:57:31 PM
This isn’t close to “McCarthyism”. There’s nothing unfounded about what the goal of the left is here. This is blatant, in your face and no one on the left is denying it. Call it the opposite of McCarthyism. All the way from BLM admitting their Marxism to the left politicians backing them. If you disagree their views, well, you’re “cancelled”, called a racist, your business protested and called “racist”, churches, etc Things like this (this is just an example) that’s are attempted infringements on your first amendment rights. And like I said before, don’t get me started on the infringements on the Second Amendment. Because without one you can’t have the other and they, the political left knows this.

“Becerra said the quiet part out loud: The government owns the American people now after handing out stimulus checks and loans during the forced shut down”

The score board shows :
1.  Biden is President  and won by 7 million in the popular vote.

2. ZERO credible proof in any court had been found and team Trump lost 62 voter fraud cases and won 0, in court.

I'm not part of any of that nonsense or groups  you're rambling on about and don't give a rats ass.

Side note - I know you THINK you're "owning libs" on this forum, you're kidding yourself
The majority on here are in line with your biased , right wing/pro Trump ideology . You reinforce each others views.
Most on here just recycle the same old crap from right wings sites combined with ridicule and silly insults.

What your side gets excited about,  is little more then some irrational fears .
They target the key demographic , get 'em ginned up and fund raise off it.

Yes, the progressive left does the same type of fear based fund raising from the other side.

The BIG difference is, I know it's all propaganda and  baseless bullshit.

STOP mouthing the Trump company line.
You're a  real man , now start acting like it . Think for YOURSELF instead of being  a "yes man" for Trump.
NOTHING wrong with supporting republicans, but for your own sake, THINK for yourself .

I know this will (likely) fall on deaf ears, but I respect you enough to give it one more shot.
I'm NOT trying to get you to think like me. I simply hope you start thinking for yourself.
No hard feelings on my end, no matter what you decide to do.

Lastly, I wish you a successful training biz and good health going fwd,
Howard in Ga.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 05:57:58 PM
still waiting for you to post a single k-12 school that is teaching actual CRT

here's a link to the class at Harvard Law School which appears to be from 2014 (not even sure if it's still part of the curriculum there at the moment)

https://hls.harvard.edu/academics/curriculum/catalog/index.html?o=67608

I gave you my answer.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2021, 06:02:20 PM
I gave you my answer.

you claimed it was in 400 schools including K-12 but for some reason you can't name a single school where it is taught

par for the course for a phony "coach" and well known LIAR
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 06:09:17 PM
The score board shows :
1.  Biden is President  and won by 7 million in the popular vote.

2. ZERO credible proof in any court had been found and team Trump lost 62 voter fraud cases and won 0, in court.

I'm not part of any of that nonsense or groups  you're rambling on about and don't give a rats ass.

Side note - I know you THINK you're "owning libs" on this forum, you're kidding yourself
The majority on here are in line with your biased , right wing/pro Trump ideology . You reinforce each others views.
Most on here just recycle the same old crap from right wings sites combined with ridicule and silly insults.

What your side gets excited about,  is little more then some irrational fears .
They target the key demographic , get 'em ginned up and fund raise off it.

Yes, the progressive left does the same type of fear based fund raising from the other side.

The BIG difference is, I know it's all propaganda and  baseless bullshit.

STOP mouthing the Trump company line.
You're a  real man , now start acting like it . Think for YOURSELF instead of being  a "yes man" for Trump.
NOTHING wrong with supporting republicans, but for your own sake, THINK for yourself .

I know this will (likely) fall on deaf ears, but I respect you enough to give it one more shot.
I'm NOT trying to get you to think like me. I simply hope you start thinking for yourself.
No hard feelings on my end, no matter what you decide to do.

Lastly, I wish you a successful training biz and good health going fwd,
Howard in Ga.

Stop with the bullshit Howard. And while driving on my trip right now and I’ll give you an even bigger and better example as to why McCarthyism doesn’t even remotely play a roll. The shut down of our economy and what was deemed “essential” businesses and non-essential businesses. The total Government take over that infringed on our civil rights. Being ordered to stay in or face consequences. Fuck, one guy who was out in the water BY HIMSELF being tracked down by the Coast Guard. Places of worship ordered closed but strip clubs, liquor stores and weed shops allowed to stay open just to name a few. Now you have this asshole in the White House saying he’s not against another shut down (paraphrasing) because of some other bullshit variant.

Keep it coming Howard.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 06:10:02 PM
you claimed it was in 400 schools including K-12 but for some reason you can't name a single school where it is taught

par for the course for a phony "coach" and well known LIAR

Yes, I was wrong. It was more.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2021, 06:15:39 PM
Yes, I was wrong. It was more.

great

name a single K-12 where it's taught

5th time that I've asked you now

If you can't do it just say so
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2021, 06:32:01 PM
great

name a single K-12 where it's taught

5th time that I've asked you now

If you can't do it just say so

You could ask me a fucking million times you troll. I’m not gonna give you the names of the schools in my area or even close to my area that I know for a fact or teaching it. And the reason why is because it is my area I am at the schools every day I see what’s going on. I attend school boards I am part of school campaigns on who gets elected and who isn’t. It wasn’t too long ago during a school board meeting that a parent brought in her kids curriculums To ask questions on why certain things were being asked and put in. So don’t give me your bullshit like you fucking know you don’t.

I’m driving while texting so fuck you on my grammar
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2021, 06:36:57 PM
You could ask me a fucking million times you troll. I’m not gonna give you the names of the schools in my area or even close to my area that I know for a fact or teaching it. And the reason why is because it is my area I am at the schools every day I see what’s going on. I attend school boards I am part of school campaigns on who gets elected and who isn’t. It wasn’t too long ago during a school board meeting that a parent brought in her kids curriculums To ask questions on why certain things were being asked and put in. So don’t give me your bullshit like you fucking know you don’t.

I’m driving while texting so fuck you on my grammar

why are you texting while driving you fucking moron

You obviously can't name a single K-12 school anywhere in the country teaching CRT BECAUSE NONE OF THEM ARE TEACHING IT.

It's a class in law school

This is a manufactured "crisis" that idiots like you eat up and then regurgitate
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 08, 2021, 06:48:00 PM
You could ask me a fucking million times you troll. I’m not gonna give you the names of the schools in my area or even close to my area that I know for a fact or teaching it. And the reason why is because it is my area I am at the schools every day I see what’s going on. I attend school boards I am part of school campaigns on who gets elected and who isn’t. It wasn’t too long ago during a school board meeting that a parent brought in her kids curriculums To ask questions on why certain things were being asked and put in. So don’t give me your bullshit like you fucking know you don’t.

I’m driving while texting so fuck you on my grammar

More lies.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: residue on July 09, 2021, 07:04:44 AM
You could ask me a fucking million times you troll. I’m not gonna give you the names of the schools in my area or even close to my area that I know for a fact or teaching it. And the reason why is because it is my area I am at the schools every day I see what’s going on. I attend school boards I am part of school campaigns on who gets elected and who isn’t. It wasn’t too long ago during a school board meeting that a parent brought in her kids curriculums To ask questions on why certain things were being asked and put in. So don’t give me your bullshit like you fucking know you don’t.

I’m driving while texting so fuck you on my grammar
do you have school aged kids? if not why the fuck are you at schools everyday
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 09, 2021, 08:00:52 AM
do you have school aged kids? if not why the fuck are you at schools everyday

Not for the education obviously.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 09, 2021, 08:06:43 AM
We won't agree with Coach on this issue, BUT, making thinly veiled implications  he's some stalker/ pedo is , out of bounds.
I know you're just trying to bust his balls, but, it's still wrong ...even for GETBIG.com forums   ;)
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 09, 2021, 08:17:51 AM
Stop with the bullshit Howard. And while driving on my trip right now and I’ll give you an even bigger and better example as to why McCarthyism doesn’t even remotely play a roll. The shut down of our economy and what was deemed “essential” businesses and non-essential businesses. The total Government take over that infringed on our civil rights. Being ordered to stay in or face consequences. Fuck, one guy who was out in the water BY HIMSELF being tracked down by the Coast Guard. Places of worship ordered closed but strip clubs, liquor stores and weed shops allowed to stay open just to name a few. Now you have this asshole in the White House saying he’s not against another shut down (paraphrasing) because of some other bullshit variant.

Keep it coming Howard.

Ok Coach, I tried to offer  reasonable advice on your  "Trumpist cult" thinking and was slapped down. :-[
After 8 failed marriages and a lackluster bodybuilding "career," this isn't my first experience with failure.  :D
Like anyone, you have the right to think and feel as you do.
I reserve the same right ,to respectfully disagree.

Have a safe trip !
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 09, 2021, 08:20:00 AM
Ok Coach, I tried to offer  reasonable advice on your  "Trumpist cult" thinking and was slapped down. :-[
After 8 failed marriages and a lackluster bodybuilding "career," this isn't my first experience with failure.  :D
Like anyone, you have the right to think and feel as you do.
I reserve the same right ,to respectfully disagree.

Have a safe trip !

Biden needs to promote old aged homes and hospice as he is clearly not well. 
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 09, 2021, 08:26:17 AM
Biden needs to promote old aged homes and hospice as he is clearly not well.

My 9th wife will need to put me in a safe place, in a few years, so WTF...I'm all for that. :D
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Gregzs on July 10, 2021, 11:51:03 AM
Biden administration cancels additional $55.6 million in student debt

The Department of Education canceled an additional $55.6 million in student loan debt for 1,800 students who were victims of a for-profit college fraud, bringing the total amount of canceled student loan debt by the Biden administration to $1.5 billion.

"Today’s announcement continues the U.S. Department of Education’s commitment to standing up for students whose colleges took advantage of them,” Miguel Cardona, the secretary of education, said in the department’s statement released Friday. 

The latest loan cancellation is for students who attended Westwood College, Marinello Schools of Beauty and the Court Reporting Institute. This is the first time the department approved loan forgiveness to students who attended schools other than Corinthian Colleges, ITT Technical Institute and American Career Institute since 2017.

“Today’s action continues efforts by the Biden Administration to ensure borrower defense and other targeted loan cancellation, forgiveness, and discharge programs deliver relief to students and borrowers,” the department’s statement said.

The borrower defense is a federal regulation by the Department of Education that allows federal student loan borrowers the opportunity to seek forgiveness on their loans if they were defrauded by a college or university.   

With the additional 1,800 students, the Biden administration has canceled student loans for nearly 92,000 people. The $1.5 billion of canceled loan debt is an attempt by the Biden administration to address the backlog of forgiveness claims left by the prior administration.

“The Department will continue doing its part to review and approve borrower defense claims quickly and fairly so that borrowers receive the relief that they need and deserve. We also hope these approvals serve as a warning to any institution engaging in similar conduct that this type of misrepresentation is unacceptable," Cardona added.

Some Democrats are pushing for more and broader student loan forgiveness.

More than 60 Democrats sent a letter to Biden on June 23, urging him to extend the pause of payments and interest for federal student loans, stating that the pause provided immense relief to borrowers and families during the pandemic and would “present a significant challenge” if ended.   

Democrats also previously asked Biden to commit to $50,000 in student loan forgiveness per borrower, something he said he would not do, stating that he’d prefer the money be invested in early childhood education.

Will that "be forgiven, rather than use that money to provide money for early education for young children who come from disadvantaged circumstances?" Biden said during a CNN town hall.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/09/biden-administration-cancels-1-5-billion-student-loan-debt/7917250002/?fbclid=IwAR2yYqdIPkPZXTdA95GafsNmPQZw3LDRhy5desRi2fqL0cq2-8erO0YkTYA
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 10, 2021, 04:31:24 PM
Trump selected Betsy DeVoss for his Sec of Education.
Her main "qualification" was being related to Eric Prince CEO of Blackwater* mercenaries .

That's like making Chuckles  the clown , Sec of Ed.

Biden could promote fart lighting in schools and still be a better Pres on public ed.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 10, 2021, 05:42:50 PM
Biden administration cancels additional $55.6 million in student debt

The Department of Education canceled an additional $55.6 million in student loan debt for 1,800 students who were victims of a for-profit college fraud, bringing the total amount of canceled student loan debt by the Biden administration to $1.5 billion.

"Today’s announcement continues the U.S. Department of Education’s commitment to standing up for students whose colleges took advantage of them,” Miguel Cardona, the secretary of education, said in the department’s statement released Friday. 

The latest loan cancellation is for students who attended Westwood College, Marinello Schools of Beauty and the Court Reporting Institute. This is the first time the department approved loan forgiveness to students who attended schools other than Corinthian Colleges, ITT Technical Institute and American Career Institute since 2017.

“Today’s action continues efforts by the Biden Administration to ensure borrower defense and other targeted loan cancellation, forgiveness, and discharge programs deliver relief to students and borrowers,” the department’s statement said.

The borrower defense is a federal regulation by the Department of Education that allows federal student loan borrowers the opportunity to seek forgiveness on their loans if they were defrauded by a college or university.   

With the additional 1,800 students, the Biden administration has canceled student loans for nearly 92,000 people. The $1.5 billion of canceled loan debt is an attempt by the Biden administration to address the backlog of forgiveness claims left by the prior administration.

“The Department will continue doing its part to review and approve borrower defense claims quickly and fairly so that borrowers receive the relief that they need and deserve. We also hope these approvals serve as a warning to any institution engaging in similar conduct that this type of misrepresentation is unacceptable," Cardona added.

Some Democrats are pushing for more and broader student loan forgiveness.

More than 60 Democrats sent a letter to Biden on June 23, urging him to extend the pause of payments and interest for federal student loans, stating that the pause provided immense relief to borrowers and families during the pandemic and would “present a significant challenge” if ended.   

Democrats also previously asked Biden to commit to $50,000 in student loan forgiveness per borrower, something he said he would not do, stating that he’d prefer the money be invested in early childhood education.

Will that "be forgiven, rather than use that money to provide money for early education for young children who come from disadvantaged circumstances?" Biden said during a CNN town hall.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/09/biden-administration-cancels-1-5-billion-student-loan-debt/7917250002/?fbclid=IwAR2yYqdIPkPZXTdA95GafsNmPQZw3LDRhy5desRi2fqL0cq2-8erO0YkTYA

You do understand that’s not a good thing, right?
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 10, 2021, 05:43:36 PM
Trump selected Betsy DeVoss for his Sec of Education.
Her main "qualification" was being related to Eric Prince CEO of Blackwater* mercenaries .

That's like making Chuckles  the clown , Sec of Ed.

Biden could promote fart lighting in schools and still be a better Pres on public ed.

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Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 11, 2021, 08:16:23 AM
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Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: TheGrinch on July 11, 2021, 09:20:33 AM
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 11, 2021, 12:53:53 PM
My 9th wife will need to put me in a safe place, in a few years, so WTF...I'm all for that. :D


How is Biden doin' in Taliban land  ;D
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 11, 2021, 02:09:24 PM

How is Biden doin' in Taliban land  ;D

In my OPINION, total withdrawal from Afghanistan NOW, will prove to be a mistake.
We were there for basic security and nation building after 2003. Like N/S Korea, we had GRADUALLY  became a stabilizing force

We needed to get OUT back in 2003 after we defeated the Taliban.
Nation building in a place at cultural odds, where most hate the USA, never works

 ???This is yet another in the long list of US Presidential  screw ups in foreign policy ??? :

Trump pulled out and left the Kurds holding their dicks in  NE Syria.

Obama pulled out of Iraq and ISIS eventually formed out of the ashes.

W Bush, invaded Iraq when they had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

Bill Clinton largely  ignored the growing terrorist problems . Rasmi Usef fist bombed the NY World trade Center basement ( mid 90's).

* GHW Bush ( 41st POTUS) was one the few who did the right thing in the 1st Iraq war.  We assembled 500,000 coalition Us led troops
   and drove Saddem Hussein out of Kuwait with minimal dead soldiers  for the USA. Go in, get it done and leave. ;)

Reagan was pretty good overall, but fuked up with his unauthorized Contra forces in Central America and Columbia.

Carter ordered the  failed rescue of the Iran hostages in the late 1970's.
The Iranian revolution was to oust the Shah , who was the stooge the USA installed . That backfired big time.

LBJ - Nixon - Ford , kept us in a failed war with crazy restrictions  in Viet Nam. We pulled out as losers after 10 years in 1975.

JFK signed off on the Bay of Pigs debacle , in a failed attempt to knock off Castro.

Korea ended u as a draw with the line back to where it started at after 3 years of deadly fighting . ( 1950-53)
...this is just the well known "lowlights" of the past 60 years.

Truman nuked Japan twice ending WWII and saving countless lives.  That and defeating the Nazis were some of the great US military victories. FYI, the USA was only involved in WWII for 3 years and 8 months.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 11, 2021, 02:20:00 PM


Ok, so he raps about not feeling FREE to speak his mind in the current USA cultural climate.
BUT...
He's FREE to make and promote this video rap saying so. Hmmmm?

In America the 1st amd. states he's free to speak his beliefs openly in public.
But...
Others who don't agree are just as FREE to dissent.

That's the thing about FREEDOM, people can say they don't agree with him.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: residue on July 12, 2021, 07:43:18 AM
In my OPINION, total withdrawal from Afghanistan NOW, will prove to be a mistake.
We were there for basic security and nation building after 2003. Like N/S Korea, we had GRADUALLY  became a stabilizing force

We needed to get OUT back in 2003 after we defeated the Taliban.
Nation building in a place at cultural odds, where most hate the USA, never works

 ???This is yet another in the long list of US Presidential  screw ups in foreign policy ??? :

Trump pulled out and left the Kurds holding their dicks in  NE Syria.

Obama pulled out of Iraq and ISIS eventually formed out of the ashes.

W Bush, invaded Iraq when they had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

Bill Clinton largely  ignored the growing terrorist problems . Rasmi Usef fist bombed the NY World trade Center basement ( mid 90's).

* GHW Bush ( 41st POTUS) was one the few who did the right thing in the 1st Iraq war.  We assembled 500,000 coalition Us led troops
   and drove Saddem Hussein out of Kuwait with minimal dead soldiers  for the USA. Go in, get it done and leave. ;)

Reagan was pretty good overall, but fuked up with his unauthorized Contra forces in Central America and Columbia.

Carter ordered the  failed rescue of the Iran hostages in the late 1970's.
The Iranian revolution was to oust the Shah , who was the stooge the USA installed . That backfired big time.

LBJ - Nixon - Ford , kept us in a failed war with crazy restrictions  in Viet Nam. We pulled out as losers after 10 years in 1975.

JFK signed off on the Bay of Pigs debacle , in a failed attempt to knock off Castro.

Korea ended u as a draw with the line back to where it started at after 3 years of deadly fighting . ( 1950-53)
...this is just the well known "lowlights" of the past 60 years.

Truman nuked Japan twice ending WWII and saving countless lives.  That and defeating the Nazis were some of the great US military victories. FYI, the USA was only involved in WWII for 3 years and 8 months.
but but we're giving them freedoms, the same freedoms they're jealous of
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 12, 2021, 07:48:30 AM
but but we're giving them freedoms, the same freedoms they're jealous of

Those goat banging cavemen and followers of the Pedo Mohammed don't want freedom. 
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 12, 2021, 10:45:06 AM
but but we're giving them freedoms, the same freedoms they're jealous of

They want to be FREE to beat woman for the horrific  crime of not covering your head. ::)
I posted a lengthy list of Presidential screw ups in foreign policy.

Like most unstable situations we'll eventually have to deal with 'em again.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Promotes Four More Years of Free Government Education
Post by: Howard on July 12, 2021, 10:48:34 AM
Those goat banging cavemen and followers of the Pedo Mohammed don't want freedom.

The goats think it's a baaaaaaaaaad idea  ;D