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Title: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: IronMagazine.com on February 19, 2024, 10:56:58 AM
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Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: BigRo on February 19, 2024, 11:07:16 AM
Someone should call out Dorian too.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Skeletor on February 19, 2024, 11:08:52 AM
Another Bravo clickbait video?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: a_pupil on February 19, 2024, 11:11:56 AM
Where's the original youtube video?

The only one of these fitness industry commentators I'd be willing to watch are jumbo palumbo and dr. goodrum
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: IronMagazine.com on February 19, 2024, 05:33:28 PM
Where's the original youtube video?

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Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Hulkotron on February 19, 2024, 05:37:19 PM
Is Tom still alive?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: IronMagazine.com on February 19, 2024, 05:38:18 PM
Is Tom still alive?

he was 2 weeks ago when Dorian interviewed him, not sure about now, his jaw is not looking too good.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: IronMagazine.com on February 19, 2024, 05:42:05 PM
Tom Platz Reveals Gastroenteritis Caused Facial Paralysis from Bell’s Palsy: “Recovery Is Challenging”
https://fitnessvolt.com/tom-platz-reveals-gastroenteritis-caused-facial-paralysis/
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 19, 2024, 05:45:42 PM
mentzer took 200 mgs deca every 10 days and 25 mgs dbol daily
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: IronMagazine.com on February 19, 2024, 07:38:52 PM
mentzer took 200 mgs deca every 10 days and 25 mgs dbol daily

really, you were friends with him?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 19, 2024, 07:47:56 PM
really, you were friends with him?

I had phone consultation with him back in 98

He nicknamed me Wild Horse

I believe him

25 mgs of dbol is very strong
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 19, 2024, 08:58:14 PM
Another Bravo clickbait video?

He's paying for these ads.

So might as well whore them on a site where 99% of the members think this Bravo fella is a retard.

#getpaidnikka
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: IronMagazine.com on February 19, 2024, 10:38:14 PM
I had phone consultation with him back in 98

He nicknamed me Wild Horse

I believe him

25 mgs of dbol is very strong

lmao
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: IronMagazine.com on February 19, 2024, 10:41:31 PM
He's paying for these ads.

So might as well whore them on a site where 99% of the members think this Bravo fella is a retard.

#getpaidnikka
exactly.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Dorian Cutler on February 19, 2024, 10:51:17 PM
One liar callong another liar a liar
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: BigRo on February 20, 2024, 12:37:38 AM
I had phone consultation with him back in 98

He nicknamed me Wild Horse

I believe him

25 mgs of dbol is very strong

Strong for rickets boy.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 20, 2024, 12:52:16 AM
mentzer took 200 mgs deca every 10 days and 25 mgs dbol daily
For breakfast.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 20, 2024, 05:41:32 AM
For breakfast.


breakkie was a pastry

his precontest diet was 80-90% carbs
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: joswift on February 20, 2024, 05:45:34 AM
Dorian didnt call out anyone

200 deca and a few Dbol a week

Tom used to look like a fucking chipmunk FFS
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 20, 2024, 05:48:45 AM
Dorian didnt call out anyone

200 deca and a few Dbol a week

Tom used to look like a fucking chipmunk FFS

said he got too big and to cut back on the gears
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: beakdoctor on February 20, 2024, 06:31:40 AM
Tom is strange. His videos, clips, interviews are all over the place and have steadily gotten more and more out of whack as he's tried to remain relevant in an industry that is not kind to the aging athlete.

Whether he talks about Arnold, the 80 Olympia, how he would train, poundages he'd use and mostly his steroid use.if you look at 5 different interviews,  you're likely to get 5 different answers.

At this point why not just admit what you did? He went from nothing in 79, 80 to a beast in 81. He must've put on 20 lbs in  one year AND come in more shredded. From 79 to 81 he had to have put on 30 or 40 lbs..His usage had to be wild for the era.

But since no one is really honest about drug use it would make the reality of it more shocking. So everyone minimizes it.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: _bruce_ on February 20, 2024, 09:47:38 AM


These pros believe their fairy tales - it's the base of their existence.
Dorian still has great legs so it seems he has good genetics when it comes to upper body and outstanding ones for the lower half.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Mayday on February 20, 2024, 01:53:38 PM

I have seen physique guys claim around that 3G+/wk + low GH dosages for competition.

Would the dosages for 70s guys be less due to them being less lean?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: joswift on February 20, 2024, 01:54:36 PM
I have seen physique guys claim around that 3G+/wk + low GH dosages for competition.

Would the dosages for 70s guys be less due to them being less lean?

Drugs were real pharma back then, you didnt need to take multiple grams of shite.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 20, 2024, 03:18:40 PM
After his competition his training partner said they just did 900mg of Deca.

He had told someone on another forum that 1400mg was a good dose of Deca. It's 200mg but daily :D

He looked exactly like someone on high Deca could be assumed to look like. Everything was about Deca. Today people complain about depression and libido/performance with Deca, some say no one wet crazy from Deca whereas Victor Black claims that longtime users, like decades, it makes them just plain weird. He talks about steroid induced dementia.  Do you think steroids change your personality?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 20, 2024, 03:24:01 PM
I have seen physique guys claim around that 3G+/wk + low GH dosages for competition.

Would the dosages for 70s guys be less due to them being less lean?

Yes, I think they used less in general. Few dared to go beyond what most others were using. The 3 grams for a physique athlete is too much, so they think. But compared to what? Gains aren't llinear when dosing but I think in a few instances 3 grams can give some extra gains compared to say 1200mg that some assume they do.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: The Scott on February 20, 2024, 03:46:22 PM
No one group of beings is stoopider than today's bodybuilders.  The so-called "Golden Age" was just that because they were worried about what would happen to them in later years and because competitions were not a year 'round thing.

It is also because back then competitors trained for years without drugs because they were nearly unknown and not that easy to get for the average man.  They developed a foundation first.  And they weren't on boatloads all year 'round.  Genetics came into play for those very reasons. 

Now?  Everyone knows it's all drugs and so they start 'em young. This results in shorter bodybuilders because an inrush of testosterone signals the arrival of puberty  and the maturation of the skeletal structure. 
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 20, 2024, 07:06:03 PM
I have seen physique guys claim around that 3G+/wk + low GH dosages for competition.

Would the dosages for 70s guys be less due to them being less lean?

Hard to know because it was so taboo and frowned upon to share these things back then.

It ruined the sport and the Weider's and other promoters asked people to never speak of drugs.

I know a guy who was there (Gold's Venice) back in the 70's and said it was an ampule (or two) of each compound a day and as many orals they could handle without too much acid reflux. Guys shooting each other up in the locker room before training sessions and dudes with a large bag of Dbol handing them out like candy. Remember many of these guys had Doctor supervision, so if things got out of whack, they reduced their drug usage quickly.

Also, most guys only used a high amount for a few months a year. They would ramp up their usage coming into a show, growing into the show as the way most guy did it. It was common for guys to take long periods off gear to clean themselves out.

Obviously, everyone downplays the "golden era" as it has a sort of cult following of men who want to believe it was achievable naturally or on minimal amounts. Human nature will always prevail as all narcissistic mean and "athletes" have the "anything to win mentality". You think if these guys got big on 800mg of Deca a week they didn't double it? Shit was cheap from Mexico. Hell, most of these guys sold it. Part of the Venice scene being what is was is due to its proximity to Mexico and easy drugs.

Drugs today are no weaker than those of yesteryear, in fact most of them are probably stronger. Powders are so cheap these days you can make a vial of Test or Deca for less than $5.

The gear i get in Mexican pharmacies is top notch stuff. Even the UGL stuff from a good source is high quality gear. It's so easy to make quality gear these days. The bathtub brew guys have been gone with the wind a decade ago.

Like all things Old School people want to preserve it as some sort of utopia and the "good ol' days". When it was the same attitude of drug abuse we have today.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: BEEFCAKE on February 20, 2024, 08:47:43 PM
After his competition his training partner said they just did 900mg of Deca.

He had told someone on another forum that 1400mg was a good dose of Deca. It's 200mg but daily :D

He looked exactly like someone on high Deca could be assumed to look like. Everything was about Deca. Today people complain about depression and libido/performance with Deca, some say no one wet crazy from Deca whereas Victor Black claims that longtime users, like decades, it makes them just plain weird. He talks about steroid induced dementia.  Do you think steroids change your personality?

deca was the hitmans drug of choice
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: BEEFCAKE on February 20, 2024, 08:50:14 PM
Hard to know because it was so taboo and frowned upon to share these things back then.

It ruined the sport and the Weider's and other promoters asked people to never speak of drugs.

I know a guy who was there (Gold's Venice) back in the 70's and said it was an ampule (or two) of each compound a day and as many orals they could handle without too much acid reflux. Guys shooting each other up in the locker room before training sessions and dudes with a large bag of Dbol handing them out like candy. Remember many of these guys had Doctor supervision, so if things got out of whack, they reduced their drug usage quickly.

Also, most guys only used a high amount for a few months a year. They would ramp up their usage coming into a show, growing into the show as the way most guy did it. It was common for guys to take long periods off gear to clean themselves out.

Obviously, everyone downplays the "golden era" as it has a sort of cult following of men who want to believe it was achievable naturally or on minimal amounts. Human nature will always prevail as all narcissistic mean and "athletes" have the "anything to win mentality". You think if these guys got big on 800mg of Deca a week they didn't double it? Shit was cheap from Mexico. Hell, most of these guys sold it. Part of the Venice scene being what is was is due to its proximity to Mexico and easy drugs.

Drugs today are no weaker than those of yesteryear, in fact most of them are probably stronger. Powders are so cheap these days you can make a vial of Test or Deca for less than $5.

The gear i get in Mexican pharmacies is top notch stuff. Even the UGL stuff from a good source is high quality gear. It's so easy to make quality gear these days. The bathtub brew guys have been gone with the wind a decade ago.

Like all things Old School people want to preserve it as some sort of utopia and the "good ol' days". When it was the same attitude of drug abuse we have today.

i dont think guys from the 70's used very man injectables , the plastic disposables we use today did not become common till the late 80's early 90's , cleaning the old glass ones and even getting your hands on them seemed like a pain in the ass no pun intended
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 21, 2024, 12:48:51 AM
deca was the hitmans drug of choice
That's why he was never accused of rape.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: BEEFCAKE on February 21, 2024, 06:58:29 AM
That's why he was never accused of rape.

 :D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 08:22:42 AM
King Zane wrote a poem bout his gear use in one of his books

i'll see if i can find it
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: beakdoctor on February 21, 2024, 09:49:27 AM
King Zane wrote a poem bout his gear use in one of his books

i'll see if i can find it

Zanes poetry is god awful.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: joswift on February 21, 2024, 09:51:25 AM
Zanes poetry is god awful.
Frank Zane
Hes no Mark Twain
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 10:09:56 AM
Zanes poetry is god awful.

true

but it's interesting coz he confesses to what he actually used

i think it was PRIMO and var

opps! PRIMO 100 mgs dbol 15 mgs

Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: MajorDomo on February 21, 2024, 10:17:22 AM
Without drugs bodybuilding doesn't exist. Who really wants to see guys with moderately muscular physiques? It's boring. I just think you can go overboard and look like a troll if you aren't careful. Lots of bodybuilders look like trolls. No surprise Bumstead is more popular than the current midget Mr. O.





Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 10:26:19 AM
Without drugs bodybuilding doesn't exist. Who really wants to see guys with moderately muscular physiques? It's boring. I just think you can go overboard and look like a troll if you aren't careful. Lots of bodybuilders look like trolls. No surprise Bumstead is more popular than the current midget Mr. O.



lately some have been downplaying gear as fake muscles

namely those who can't give me credit for my incredible recent gains ;)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 11:49:42 AM
so zanes stack was

100 mgs primo weekly and 15 mgs dbol daily

that's a 205 mg anaboilic load
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: BigRo on February 21, 2024, 11:56:43 AM
so zanes stack was

100 mgs primo weekly and 15 mgs dbol daily

that's a 205 mg anaboilic load

Zane is a liar like yourself.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: MajorDomo on February 21, 2024, 12:01:50 PM
lately some have been downplaying gear as fake muscles

namely those who can't give me credit for my incredible recent gains ;)

haha- You do whatever you feel like doing. You have to remember this board is brutal but I wouldn't take anything personally. GetBig is my favorite site on the net because people here are true alphas  ;D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 21, 2024, 12:03:34 PM
I had phone consultation with him back in 98

He nicknamed me Wild Horse

I believe him

25 mgs of dbol is very strong

Back then it came out of an American pharmaceutical company. It was legit and very strong. That was actually a huge dose. Now guys are taking four times that and it barely works. The current stuff is made in China, Russia, Mexico in garage labs with counterfeit boxing and inserts is garbage. Probably mixed with a dirty flip flop. I don't use or recommend steroids. I only been around the bodybuilding scene for a long time.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 12:08:20 PM
haha- You do whatever you feel like doing. You have to remember this board is brutal but I wouldn't take anything personally. GetBig is my favorite site on the net because people here are true alphas  ;D

they think they get to me with this horseshit they spew

oh how wrong they are ;)

got another transfer and paid for the entry to this hot party on saturday the one with very strict selection to whom they allow to enter yep they accepted me but i'm soooo ugly, sure i am

after paying the entry i ordered another bottle of PRIMO and the rest went to my food lol

loaded up on milk, chicken breast, energy drink, brown rice and sunflower oil this will bee my diet cept for mickey d's twice a week

feels great get bigger and fuller ima loving it :P
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: MajorDomo on February 21, 2024, 12:08:34 PM
Back then it came out of an American pharmaceutical company. It was legit and very strong. That was actually a huge dose. Now guys are taking four times that and it barely works. The current stuff is made in China, Russia, Mexico in garage labs with counterfeit boxing and inserts is garbage. Probably mixed with a dirty flip flop. I don't use or recommend steroids. I only been around the bodybuilding scene for a long time.

I work in pharma research. If the conditions aren't perfect you end up with at the very least stuff that is contaminated and at the most  toxic. You can't fuck around with substances you inject.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: MajorDomo on February 21, 2024, 12:10:23 PM
they think they get to me with this horseshit they spew

oh how wrong they are ;)

got another transfer and paid for the entry to this hot party on saturday the one with very strict selection to whom they allow to enter yep they accepted me but i'm soooo ugly, sure i am

after paying the entry i ordered another bottle of PRIMO and the rest went to my food lol

loaded up on milk, chicken breast, energy drink, brown rice and sunflower oil this will bee my diet cept for mickey d's twice a week

feels great get bigger and fuller ima loving it :P

I admit I love that stuff- I'm sure it's killng me but life is short so might as well enjoy it
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 12:18:02 PM
I admit I love that stuff- I'm sure it's killng me but life is short so might as well enjoy it

i still remember mentzer telling me "that stuff ain't that bad" after i told him i eat mickey d's alot

i'm naturally very dry and flat so i respond well to mcd's
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: joswift on February 21, 2024, 12:24:40 PM
I admit I love that stuff- I'm sure it's killng me but life is short so might as well enjoy it
I havent been to Mc Donalds for about 4 years
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 21, 2024, 12:28:33 PM
Cliffs….like Trigili this Bravo guy is unwatchable
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Dave D on February 21, 2024, 12:32:27 PM
After his competition his training partner said they just did 900mg of Deca.

He had told someone on another forum that 1400mg was a good dose of Deca. It's 200mg but daily :D

He looked exactly like someone on high Deca could be assumed to look like. Everything was about Deca. Today people complain about depression and libido/performance with Deca, some say no one wet crazy from Deca whereas Victor Black claims that longtime users, like decades, it makes them just plain weird. He talks about steroid induced dementia.  Do you think steroids change your personality?

I would think hormones would change someone’s personality and behavior, is the thought that they wouldn’t?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Dorian Cutler on February 21, 2024, 12:33:57 PM
Another Bravo clickbait video?
yes, slow talking moron who always takes the zero risk blue pill position after drawing people in with a clickbait title
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 21, 2024, 12:47:22 PM
Sincerely, does anyone know specifics about McDonalds and other fast food burgers? What I mean people say it's so horrible but since I haven't sen if there are analyses of the meat or if you can source it to a few farms. Recently a friend
swore off all McD because it makes him feel horrible in his gut. So we picked up Subway last time we trained. He claimed Subway was not fast food to him and much more forgiving to his system. I asked him what he thought was bad about McD burgers, "the meat just doesn't smell right." You don't get anywhere with this type of reasoning.

So... is anyone here aware of why the meat might be "crap"? Or even a hunch? You still have the buns and condiment, can't remember if you can switch the buns? A regular burger has ketchup I think and a tiny vegetable. Why is this so bad?

I think that people don't really think. I think Sam Sulek got a lot of shit for his food choices but if it fits his daily macros, what's the big deal?

Bodybuilding related, a couple of friends bought a dozen McD patties for the flight to the US to compete. Easy to "not prepare" for protein when carb depleting. Bad idea?

There are so many nutritional myths on the "health side," like milk contains androgens and growth hormones and that makes kids enter puberty earlier. You can't even rationalise with these. Or micronutrient levels in foods nowadays. Some are lower, some higher IIRC.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: MajorDomo on February 21, 2024, 01:00:16 PM
Sincerely, does anyone know specifics about McDonalds and other fast food burgers? What I mean people say it's so horrible but since I haven't sen if there are analyses of the meat or if you can source it to a few farms. Recently a friend
swore off all McD because it makes him feel horrible in his gut. So we picked up Subway last time we trained. He claimed Subway was not fast food to him and much more forgiving to his system. I asked him what he thought was bad about McD burgers, "the meat just doesn't smell right." You don't get anywhere with this type of reasoning.

So... is anyone here aware of why the meat might be "crap"? Or even a hunch? You still have the buns and condiment, can't remember if you can switch the buns? A regular burger has ketchup I think and a tiny vegetable. Why is this so bad?

I think that people don't really think. I think Sam Sulek got a lot of shit for his food choices but if it fits his daily macros, what's the big deal?

Bodybuilding related, a couple of friends bought a dozen McD patties for the flight to the US to compete. Easy to "not prepare" for protein when carb depleting. Bad idea?

There are so many nutritional myths on the "health side," like milk contains androgens and growth hormones and that makes kids enter puberty earlier. You can't even rationalise with these. Or micronutrient levels in foods nowadays. Some are lower, some higher IIRC.

A lot of people diss McDonalds- mostly because they want to be like the cool kids, lol. That being said, here is a vid from the UK about how they make the burgers. You could be eating a lot worse stuff than a Big Mac...





Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 21, 2024, 01:11:16 PM
A lot of people diss McDonalds- mostly because they want to be like the cool kids, lol.

I think so too, but I hate that bandwagoner stuff no matter the side  :D
I'm not even saying McD is excellent, just that it might be acceptable.

Dave Palumbo was always crediting McD, I think he did 2 patties with one bun and ate it every day. Lee Priest was always saying he drank that horrible full fat milk along with some junk. Would he have been better if he didn't? I don't know, might even have helped compared to some restrictive chicken and rice diet.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 01:16:19 PM
I think so too, but I hate that bandwagoner stuff no matter the side  :D
I'm not even saying McD is excellent, just that it might be acceptable.

Dave Palumbo was always crediting McD, I think he did 2 patties with one bun and ate it every day. Lee Priest was always saying he drank that horrible full fat milk along with some junk. Would he have been better if he didn't? I don't know, might even have helped compared to some restrictive chicken and rice diet.

i think it depends on your genetic

guys like me flat and dry can eat it easy-peasy
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Dorian Cutler on February 21, 2024, 01:18:32 PM
I think so too, but I hate that bandwagoner stuff no matter the side  :D
I'm not even saying McD is excellent, just that it might be acceptable.

Dave Palumbo was always crediting McD, I think he did 2 patties with one bun and ate it every day. Lee Priest was always saying he drank that horrible full fat milk along with some junk. Would he have been better if he didn't? I don't know, might even have helped compared to some restrictive chicken and rice diet.

Rice is loaded with toxins like arsenic
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: joswift on February 21, 2024, 01:21:40 PM
A lot of people diss McDonalds- mostly because they want to be like the cool kids, lol. That being said, here is a vid from the UK about how they make the burgers. You could be eating a lot worse stuff than a Big Mac...





Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: MajorDomo on February 21, 2024, 01:26:13 PM


lol - you really don't investigate past the clickbait.

https://www.seriouseats.com/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results (https://www.seriouseats.com/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results)

https://sciencenotes.org/mcdonalds-hamburgers-dont-decompose/ (https://sciencenotes.org/mcdonalds-hamburgers-dont-decompose/)

"If you’re willing to sacrifice a burger, make one yourself, using a simple bun and the same condiments. Make sure the burger is thin, like an inexpensive fast food burger, and cooked completely, since fast food places are pretty good about preventing illness from undercooked food. Leave your test burger on the counter. If you like, get a McDonald’s burger and compare their appearance over time. Are you surprised your fresh, homemade burger appears immortal? You’ve just created a burger mummy! This is much the same process used to preserve meat to make jerky."



Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: BEEFCAKE on February 21, 2024, 01:35:12 PM
Cliffs….like Trigili this Bravo guy is unwatchable

whats the matter coach? his fake vinney bonaduce accent doesnt cut it for you ?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: joswift on February 21, 2024, 02:27:18 PM
lol - you really don't investigate past the clickbait.

https://www.seriouseats.com/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results (https://www.seriouseats.com/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results)

https://sciencenotes.org/mcdonalds-hamburgers-dont-decompose/ (https://sciencenotes.org/mcdonalds-hamburgers-dont-decompose/)

"If you’re willing to sacrifice a burger, make one yourself, using a simple bun and the same condiments. Make sure the burger is thin, like an inexpensive fast food burger, and cooked completely, since fast food places are pretty good about preventing illness from undercooked food. Leave your test burger on the counter. If you like, get a McDonald’s burger and compare their appearance over time. Are you surprised your fresh, homemade burger appears immortal? You’ve just created a burger mummy! This is much the same process used to preserve meat to make jerky."
the fucking buns dont go mouldy....

Fresh bread lasts about three days before mould appears

The shit they put in food these days is astounding
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Ingredients

Turkey Meat (86%),  Water,  Salt,  Acidity Regulator (E325), Glucose Syrup,  Vegetable Oils (Sunflower, Rapeseed), Stabilisers (E407, E450, E451), Dextrose,  Flavouring,  Antioxidant (E301),  Preservative (E250)



Why would Turkey need that FFS
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 21, 2024, 02:39:03 PM
the fucking buns dont go mouldy....

Fresh bread lasts about three days before mould appears

The shit they put in food these days is astounding
(https://assets.sainsburys-groceries.co.uk/gol/7831968/1/300x300.jpg)


Why would Turkey need that FFS

I think it's to enhance flavor. There might not be any need but it's judged better tasting. Usually it's very low amounts though. You can't put 5 grams of dextrose in a slice of turkey. Meat is almost always better with some salt, just for one thing. McD is supposed to be eaten within 10 minutes so I'm not sure if there is a need to put them in their products but I think they do anyway. I don't rhink preservatives/antioxidants are necessarily a bad idea anyway.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 02:41:46 PM
you cant cross the laws of thermodynamics ;)

i'm now sitting @ a DRY 6% :)

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Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: BigRo on February 21, 2024, 02:45:32 PM
I think it's to enhance flavor. There might not be any need but it's judged better tasting. Usually it's very low amounts though. You can't put 5 grams of dextrose in a slice of turkey. Meat is almost always better with some salt, just for one thing. McD is supposed to be eaten within 10 minutes so I'm not sure if there is a need to put them in their products but I think they do anyway. I don't rhink preservatives/antioxidants are necessarily a bad idea anyway.
you cant cross the laws of thermodynamics ;)

i'm now sitting @ a DRY 6% :)

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So you do hydrostatic testing every day? You have no clue.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: joswift on February 21, 2024, 02:46:46 PM
I think it's to enhance flavor. There might not be any need but it's judged better tasting. Usually it's very low amounts though. You can't put 5 grams of dextrose in a slice of turkey. Meat is almost always better with some salt, just for one thing. McD is supposed to be eaten within 10 minutes so I'm not sure if there is a need to put them in their products but I think they do anyway. I don't rhink preservatives/antioxidants are necessarily a bad idea anyway.

MSG has long since been used as a flavour enhancer.
Reminds me of a news report I read a long time ago about a restaurant in China that was way more popular than all the others with queues outside every night.
Other restaurants suspected them of adding a lot of MSG to their food and reported them, the food got tested and it contained Opium  ;D

Fuckers had got everyone addicted
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 02:47:30 PM
my abs are like a roadmap of viens

you cant be 8+ and have this im-fucking-possible
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: BigRo on February 21, 2024, 02:50:50 PM
my abs are like a roadmap of viens

you cant be 8+ and have this im-fucking-possible

Your body and your ego are passing affairs, find out what is eternal. There is no peace in bodily identification. Know yourself as supreme spirit, but that's far beyond your understanding.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 02:52:19 PM
hahaha

i used to be a deep Christian

could recite like 50 bible verses

i have a good and decent soul, you see.... Christ is still in me :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: The Scott on February 21, 2024, 03:47:14 PM
hahaha

i used to be a deep Christian

could recite like 50 bible verses

i have a good and decent soul, you see.... Christ is still in me :)

There are those who share their religion. 

And then there are those who actually live their Faith.  The latter of those two is the only way.    There are christians and then there are Christians.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 03:57:30 PM
There are those who share their religion. 

And then there are those who actually live their Faith.  The latter of those two is the only way.    There are christians and then there are Christians.

we are all sinners no way round it

anti-heros have darkness and light

i'm saved and will forever be saved :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: The Scott on February 21, 2024, 04:07:30 PM
we are all sinners no way round it

anti-heros have darkness and light

i'm saved and will forever be saved :)

If you were, you would not say nor do the things you engage in.   I cannot claim to be Christian and I will not be just another christian as you are claiming now.  Do as you will.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 04:11:10 PM
If you were, you would not say nor do the things you engage in.   I cannot claim to be Christian and I will not be just another christian as you are claiming now.  Do as you will.

my pastor told me long ago when i was saved at 17 that you are saved forever but if you sin much you wont be blessed much in heaven

i sin in some areas in other areas im a saint ;)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: The Scott on February 21, 2024, 04:28:12 PM
my pastor told me long ago when i was saved at 17 that you are saved forever but if you sin much you wont be blessed much in heaven

i sin in some areas in other areas im a saint ;)

He lied.  Do as you wish. 

Which is exactly the problem. 
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 04:33:45 PM
He lied.  Do as you wish. 

Which is exactly the problem.

so you are sinless?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: The Scott on February 21, 2024, 04:53:10 PM
so you are sinless?

I do not claim as you do.  I honor the Nazarene but cannot claim to follow him as you are doing.  You do not live it, ergo you are not Christian.  You pastor lied as so many do.  I do not.  Again my friend, do as you wish.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 21, 2024, 04:55:55 PM
I do not claim as you do.  I honor the Nazarene but cannot claim to follow him as you are doing.  You do not live it, ergo you are not Christian.  You pastor lied as so many do.  I do not.  Again my friend, do as you wish.

i never said i follow Him i dont

i said that i was saved by Him
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: The Scott on February 21, 2024, 09:56:01 PM
i never said i follow Him i dont

i said that i was saved by Him


I like you and think you are a nice young man but you are not anymore saved than I am.  I just do not claim it for I no longer live it.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Dorian Cutler on February 21, 2024, 09:59:04 PM
There are those who share their religion. 

And then there are those who actually live their Faith.  The latter of those two is the only way.    There are christians and then there are Christians.

There are 23,145 verses in the Old Testament and 7,957 verses in the New Testament. This gives a total of 31,102 verses.

He is claiming (lying) about having been able to recite (which is pointless anyway) 0.16% of the verses in the bible

Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 22, 2024, 12:19:46 AM
so you are sinless?
What if sin isn't a thing except a made up concept?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 22, 2024, 01:35:02 AM


I like you and think you are a nice young man but you are not anymore saved than I am.  I just do not claim it for I no longer live it.

fair enough

i would never drag Him down and i wont say i follow Him when i don't

i cant stand hypocrites!!!

my new black friend is a very good a true Christian i'm lucky to have him as a friend

he invited me to sunday service this sunday but i can't go coz my elite swing party runs from 11 pm to 6 am sat night and sun morn so i told him i can attend next weeks service

told my mom he invited me and she said "please go"

also i lost my goddamn fucking debit card so he let me transfer my funds to him to hold and i told my mom and she said "replace your card" and i said "i dont want to" and she said "dont be lazy" and i said "i'm not being lazy i dont want them to control me and tell me what to do" and she asked "what do you mean?" and i said "if i get it replaced i have to show them my id/passport so therefore they are controlling me" and she said "just grow up and stop being such a brat!" :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Calls OUT Tom Platz On STEROID Usage In NEW Interview
Post by: dj181 on February 22, 2024, 01:39:48 AM
What if sin isn't a thing except a made up concept?

i'm not a sociopath/psychopath so i know in my heart when i sin it marks my soul

but dude let's not stay here it's not comfortable and i dont want to think bout it too much just like i dont want to "go there" and be emotionally close with a female, it's too scary

i would always play this for my gf and say...

It's important to me
That you know you are free
'Cause I never want to make you change for me

i said it to play the sweet cool romantic guy but in reality i was saying "dont get too close to me" truth