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[Van_Bilderass]

Sincerely, does anyone know specifics about McDonalds and other fast food burgers? What I mean people say it's so horrible but since I haven't sen if there are analyses of the meat or if you can source it to a few farms. Recently a friend
swore off all McD because it makes him feel horrible in his gut. So we picked up Subway last time we trained. He claimed Subway was not fast food to him and much more forgiving to his system. I asked him what he thought was bad about McD burgers, "the meat just doesn't smell right." You don't get anywhere with this type of reasoning.

So... is anyone here aware of why the meat might be "crap"? Or even a hunch? You still have the buns and condiment, can't remember if you can switch the buns? A regular burger has ketchup I think and a tiny vegetable. Why is this so bad?

I think that people don't really think. I think Sam Sulek got a lot of shit for his food choices but if it fits his daily macros, what's the big deal?

Bodybuilding related, a couple of friends bought a dozen McD patties for the flight to the US to compete. Easy to "not prepare" for protein when carb depleting. Bad idea?

There are so many nutritional myths on the "health side," like milk contains androgens and growth hormones and that makes kids enter puberty earlier. You can't even rationalise with these. Or micronutrient levels in foods nowadays. Some are lower, some higher IIRC.

[MajorDomo]

Sincerely, does anyone know specifics about McDonalds and other fast food burgers? What I mean people say it's so horrible but since I haven't sen if there are analyses of the meat or if you can source it to a few farms. Recently a friend
swore off all McD because it makes him feel horrible in his gut. So we picked up Subway last time we trained. He claimed Subway was not fast food to him and much more forgiving to his system. I asked him what he thought was bad about McD burgers, "the meat just doesn't smell right." You don't get anywhere with this type of reasoning.

So... is anyone here aware of why the meat might be "crap"? Or even a hunch? You still have the buns and condiment, can't remember if you can switch the buns? A regular burger has ketchup I think and a tiny vegetable. Why is this so bad?

I think that people don't really think. I think Sam Sulek got a lot of shit for his food choices but if it fits his daily macros, what's the big deal?

Bodybuilding related, a couple of friends bought a dozen McD patties for the flight to the US to compete. Easy to "not prepare" for protein when carb depleting. Bad idea?

There are so many nutritional myths on the "health side," like milk contains androgens and growth hormones and that makes kids enter puberty earlier. You can't even rationalise with these. Or micronutrient levels in foods nowadays. Some are lower, some higher IIRC.

A lot of people diss McDonalds- mostly because they want to be like the cool kids, lol. That being said, here is a vid from the UK about how they make the burgers. You could be eating a lot worse stuff than a Big Mac...

[Van_Bilderass]

A lot of people diss McDonalds- mostly because they want to be like the cool kids, lol.

I think so too, but I hate that bandwagoner stuff no matter the side 
I'm not even saying McD is excellent, just that it might be acceptable.

Dave Palumbo was always crediting McD, I think he did 2 patties with one bun and ate it every day. Lee Priest was always saying he drank that horrible full fat milk along with some junk. Would he have been better if he didn't? I don't know, might even have helped compared to some restrictive chicken and rice diet.

[dj181]

I think so too, but I hate that bandwagoner stuff no matter the side 
I'm not even saying McD is excellent, just that it might be acceptable.

Dave Palumbo was always crediting McD, I think he did 2 patties with one bun and ate it every day. Lee Priest was always saying he drank that horrible full fat milk along with some junk. Would he have been better if he didn't? I don't know, might even have helped compared to some restrictive chicken and rice diet.

i think it depends on your genetic

guys like me flat and dry can eat it easy-peasy

[Dorian Cutler]

I think so too, but I hate that bandwagoner stuff no matter the side 
I'm not even saying McD is excellent, just that it might be acceptable.

Dave Palumbo was always crediting McD, I think he did 2 patties with one bun and ate it every day. Lee Priest was always saying he drank that horrible full fat milk along with some junk. Would he have been better if he didn't? I don't know, might even have helped compared to some restrictive chicken and rice diet.

Rice is loaded with toxins like arsenic

[joswift]

A lot of people diss McDonalds- mostly because they want to be like the cool kids, lol. That being said, here is a vid from the UK about how they make the burgers. You could be eating a lot worse stuff than a Big Mac...

[MajorDomo]

lol - you really don't investigate past the clickbait.

https://www.seriouseats.com/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results

https://sciencenotes.org/mcdonalds-hamburgers-dont-decompose/

"If you’re willing to sacrifice a burger, make one yourself, using a simple bun and the same condiments. Make sure the burger is thin, like an inexpensive fast food burger, and cooked completely, since fast food places are pretty good about preventing illness from undercooked food. Leave your test burger on the counter. If you like, get a McDonald’s burger and compare their appearance over time. Are you surprised your fresh, homemade burger appears immortal? You’ve just created a burger mummy! This is much the same process used to preserve meat to make jerky."

[BEEFCAKE]

Cliffs….like Trigili this Bravo guy is unwatchable

whats the matter coach? his fake vinney bonaduce accent doesnt cut it for you ?

[joswift]

lol - you really don't investigate past the clickbait.

https://www.seriouseats.com/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results

https://sciencenotes.org/mcdonalds-hamburgers-dont-decompose/

"If you’re willing to sacrifice a burger, make one yourself, using a simple bun and the same condiments. Make sure the burger is thin, like an inexpensive fast food burger, and cooked completely, since fast food places are pretty good about preventing illness from undercooked food. Leave your test burger on the counter. If you like, get a McDonald’s burger and compare their appearance over time. Are you surprised your fresh, homemade burger appears immortal? You’ve just created a burger mummy! This is much the same process used to preserve meat to make jerky."

the fucking buns dont go mouldy....

Fresh bread lasts about three days before mould appears

The shit they put in food these days is astounding

Ingredients

Turkey Meat (86%),  Water,  Salt,  Acidity Regulator (E325), Glucose Syrup,  Vegetable Oils (Sunflower, Rapeseed), Stabilisers (E407, E450, E451), Dextrose,  Flavouring,  Antioxidant (E301),  Preservative (E250)

Why would Turkey need that FFS

[Van_Bilderass]

the fucking buns dont go mouldy....

Fresh bread lasts about three days before mould appears

The shit they put in food these days is astounding



Why would Turkey need that FFS

I think it's to enhance flavor. There might not be any need but it's judged better tasting. Usually it's very low amounts though. You can't put 5 grams of dextrose in a slice of turkey. Meat is almost always better with some salt, just for one thing. McD is supposed to be eaten within 10 minutes so I'm not sure if there is a need to put them in their products but I think they do anyway. I don't rhink preservatives/antioxidants are necessarily a bad idea anyway.

[dj181]

you cant cross the laws of thermodynamics

i'm now sitting @ a DRY 6%

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[BigRo]

I think it's to enhance flavor. There might not be any need but it's judged better tasting. Usually it's very low amounts though. You can't put 5 grams of dextrose in a slice of turkey. Meat is almost always better with some salt, just for one thing. McD is supposed to be eaten within 10 minutes so I'm not sure if there is a need to put them in their products but I think they do anyway. I don't rhink preservatives/antioxidants are necessarily a bad idea anyway.

you cant cross the laws of thermodynamics

i'm now sitting @ a DRY 6%

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So you do hydrostatic testing every day? You have no clue.

[joswift]

I think it's to enhance flavor. There might not be any need but it's judged better tasting. Usually it's very low amounts though. You can't put 5 grams of dextrose in a slice of turkey. Meat is almost always better with some salt, just for one thing. McD is supposed to be eaten within 10 minutes so I'm not sure if there is a need to put them in their products but I think they do anyway. I don't rhink preservatives/antioxidants are necessarily a bad idea anyway.

MSG has long since been used as a flavour enhancer.
Reminds me of a news report I read a long time ago about a restaurant in China that was way more popular than all the others with queues outside every night.
Other restaurants suspected them of adding a lot of MSG to their food and reported them, the food got tested and it contained Opium 

Fuckers had got everyone addicted

[dj181]

my abs are like a roadmap of viens

you cant be 8+ and have this im-fucking-possible

[BigRo]

my abs are like a roadmap of viens

you cant be 8+ and have this im-fucking-possible

Your body and your ego are passing affairs, find out what is eternal. There is no peace in bodily identification. Know yourself as supreme spirit, but that's far beyond your understanding.

[dj181]

hahaha

i used to be a deep Christian

could recite like 50 bible verses

i have a good and decent soul, you see.... Christ is still in me

[The Scott]

hahaha

i used to be a deep Christian

could recite like 50 bible verses

i have a good and decent soul, you see.... Christ is still in me

There are those who share their religion. 

And then there are those who actually live their Faith.  The latter of those two is the only way.    There are christians and then there are Christians.

[dj181]

There are those who share their religion. 

And then there are those who actually live their Faith.  The latter of those two is the only way.    There are christians and then there are Christians.

we are all sinners no way round it

anti-heros have darkness and light

i'm saved and will forever be saved

[The Scott]

we are all sinners no way round it

anti-heros have darkness and light

i'm saved and will forever be saved

If you were, you would not say nor do the things you engage in.   I cannot claim to be Christian and I will not be just another christian as you are claiming now.  Do as you will.

[dj181]

If you were, you would not say nor do the things you engage in.   I cannot claim to be Christian and I will not be just another christian as you are claiming now.  Do as you will.

my pastor told me long ago when i was saved at 17 that you are saved forever but if you sin much you wont be blessed much in heaven

i sin in some areas in other areas im a saint

[The Scott]

my pastor told me long ago when i was saved at 17 that you are saved forever but if you sin much you wont be blessed much in heaven

i sin in some areas in other areas im a saint

He lied.  Do as you wish. 

Which is exactly the problem. 

[dj181]

He lied.  Do as you wish. 

Which is exactly the problem.

so you are sinless?

[The Scott]

so you are sinless?

I do not claim as you do.  I honor the Nazarene but cannot claim to follow him as you are doing.  You do not live it, ergo you are not Christian.  You pastor lied as so many do.  I do not.  Again my friend, do as you wish.

[dj181]

I do not claim as you do.  I honor the Nazarene but cannot claim to follow him as you are doing.  You do not live it, ergo you are not Christian.  You pastor lied as so many do.  I do not.  Again my friend, do as you wish.

i never said i follow Him i dont

i said that i was saved by Him

[The Scott]

i never said i follow Him i dont

i said that i was saved by Him

I like you and think you are a nice young man but you are not anymore saved than I am.  I just do not claim it for I no longer live it.