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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MAXX on November 26, 2024, 02:08:29 PM
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was the talent pool greater? idk, fitness/gym culture is more popular today because of youtube social media etc. in the 90's it was more odd/subculture thing. Still better physiques.
see from 5 minute mark nothing better today really.
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I prefer the physiques in that era
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Without question there is no one today who can stand with the pros of the 90s.
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I prefer the physiques in that era
One of the only good things about being old is we got to experience the 80's and 90's.
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Pros today don't want to pay their dues. They overdo it with the drugs and insulin and off season eating and inactive lifestyle.
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One of the only good things about being old is we got to experience the 80's and 90's.
Yep the greatest era. The physiques varied and looked so good.
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The top 6 at the 93 Olympia would defeat anyone today not even close
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Pros today don't want to pay their dues. They overdo it with the drugs and insulin and off season eating and inactive lifestyle.
Are you sure they're more inactive? Seems to me cardio, often daily, is seen as essential nowadays across the board. I don't think it was as important in the 90s but maybe I'm wrong. Agree that they eat more probably, as they have to considering the BW, but the diets seem blander, 'cleaner' (a bit of a silly notion but you know what I mean) and just stricter wrt to daily meal schedule. Bodyfat percentages are kept lower off season as well. Back then you had Priest and his full fat milk and cookies and ice cream to grow. One pro said him and the rest of the top guys all agreed food like hamburgers grew you best and you can't eat all clean and grow (i.e. low fat). Today they go out of their way to buy 98% beef and then rinse it lol. Back then you had Chad telling many of the top guys to drink oil to increase calories. If you go by stage BF% they are lower across the board, if you'd caliper them they have lower fat over the whole body. The increased muscle blurs the 90s type definition somehow. Levrone said he did no GH for his first O and was never as crisp again but it's not like GH makes you fatter, more watery perhaps, mostly in the muscle though. Another thing, back then going to the hospital after shows due to diuretic abuse was seen as almost normal. So what I'm saying is that todays look is not due to the laziness of the bbers, at least that's my perspective, then it was more common to completely relax and sometimes not even train off season, instead partying. These fuckers today are adjusting their diets daily or weekly and sending pics and video to their coaches to monitor minute changes to their appearance year round lol. So I don't know about dues paid, even the constant year round drug taking is plain work. Just some thoughts. But yes, they did look a bit different 'quality' wise.
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Are you sure they're more inactive? Seems to me cardio, often daily, is seen as essential nowadays across the board. I don't think it was as important in the 90s but maybe I'm wrong. Agree that they eat more probably, as they have to considering the BW, but the diets seem blander, 'cleaner' (a bit of a silly notion but you know what I mean) and just stricter wrt to daily meal schedule. Bodyfat percentages are kept lower off season as well. Back then you had Priest and his full fat milk and cookies and ice cream to grow. One pro said him and the rest of the top guys all agreed food like hamburgers grew you best and you can't eat all clean and grow (i.e. low fat). Today they go out of their way to buy 98% beef and then rinse it lol. Back then you had Chad telling many of the top guys to drink oil to increase calories. If you go by stage BF% they are lower across the board, if you'd caliper them they have lower fat over the whole body. The increased muscle blurs the 90s type definition somehow. Levrone said he did no GH for his first O and was never as crisp again but it's not like GH makes you fatter, more watery perhaps, mostly in the muscle though. Another thing, back then going to the hospital after shows due to diuretic abuse was seen as almost normal. So what I'm saying is that todays look is not due to the laziness of the bbers, at least that's my perspective, then it was more common to completely relax and sometimes not even train off season, instead partying. These fuckers today are adjusting their diets daily or weekly and sending pics and video to their coaches to monitor minute changes to their appearance year round lol. So I don't know about dues paid, even the constant year round drug taking is plain work. Just some thoughts. But yes, they did look a bit different 'quality' wise.
These people weighing over 300lbs can't really do "cardio" in the off season. I mean they may slog around on the treadmill going through the motions but that's it. That amount of BF, combined with potential HP, etc... they really don't need to do much other than move around to get their HR up.
Now days everyone tries and expects to be Top 5 at the Mr O in two years. It's a crash course in maxing out their bodies.
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These people weighing over 300lbs can't really do "cardio" in the off season. I mean they may slog around on the treadmill going through the motions but that's it. That amount of BF, combined with potential HP, etc... they really don't need to do much other than move around to get their HR up.
Now days everyone tries and expects to be Top 5 at the Mr O in two years. It's a crash course in maxing out their bodies.
This ^^
A product of the times. More drugs, more food, more rest (an excuse to be lazy for many), more bloat.
Water balloon city...
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You see todays pros on a treadmill piss wet fucking through with a towel
They are fucking walking... walking shouldnt have you blowing out your arse piss wet through
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check out 'definitely'
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check out 'definitely'
thats one of my boggie words I tend to write "defiantly"
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I'm guessing these guys are more reliant on drugs. Someone mentioned cardio..Jay cutler said he witnessed nasser doing 3 hrs of cardio in Venice after he got back from a guest pose
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You see todays pros on a treadmill piss wet fucking through with a towel
They are fucking walking... walking shouldnt have you blowing out your arse piss wet through
the best cardio is cycling outside & with some hills in there. Fartlek (speed play) everything is trained. vary the tempo.
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I'm guessing these guys are more reliant on drugs. Someone mentioned cardio..Jay cutler said he witnessed nasser doing 3 hrs of cardio in Venice after he got back from a guest pose
Nasser couldnt run for a fucking bus, they have no idea what cardio is if they think they can spend 3 hours doing it
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I think it’s a combination between better drugs and harder training styles. Compare how Dorian trained compared to others in this era focusing on machines and lighter weight. The use of insulin has really ruined it, many of these pros have little definition and cuts when compared to other bodybuilders of even the 1970s.
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check out 'definitely'
I wont remember it and I cant be bothered to spellcheck so suck it ;D
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I think it’s a combination between better drugs and harder training styles. Compare how Dorian trained compared to others in this era focusing on machines and lighter weight. The use of insulin has really ruined it, many of these pros have little definition and cuts when compared to other bodybuilders of even the 1970s.
I think I remember Levrone talking on a podcast how he only tried it once or what it was. Or maybe that was growth... oh well
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I think it’s a combination between better drugs and harder training styles. Compare how Dorian trained compared to others in this era focusing on machines and lighter weight. The use of insulin has really ruined it, many of these pros have little definition and cuts when compared to other bodybuilders of even the 1970s.
Fuck , you have invoked Rimjob to appear telling us Dorian trained like everyone else.
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I'm guessing these guys are more reliant on drugs. Someone mentioned cardio..Jay cutler said he witnessed nasser doing 3 hrs of cardio in Venice after he got back from a guest pose
Because he pigged out on cheesecake the night before, 3 weeks out from the O.
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the best cardio is cycling outside & with some hills in there. Fartlek (speed play) everything is trained. vary the tempo.
I do fartlek at night while sleeping.
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Because he pigged out on cheesecake the night before, 3 weeks out from the O.
and he thought 3 hours of cardio would make any diffence on what he ate that day?
No wonder they need prep coaches.
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The creme of the crap of today's physiques are turgid with drugs. The idea that bodybuilding is a "job" has created a class of retards that think they're being "scientific" when they weigh their portions. Just look at photos of Dorian (and others) of that time in the "off season". They were never off the drugs. Smooth as a moose with so much water on him you wonder how he breathes under it all. Probably through gills in their ass. That's true of pretty much all 90s guys.
Smeared on fake tans that even some black guys put on. Gross. Huge guts and hamstrings that are useless for anything but having a schmoe pay them to rub semen into.
It's all drugs 2/24/365. And it continues to this day. No one gets off the dope and even the "classic" guys look like slobs compared to the '70s era winners.
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and he thought 3 hours of cardio would make any diffence on what he ate that day?
No wonder they need prep coaches.
I think it can, pretty weak willed to be eating cheesecake 3 weeks out though.
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The creme of the crap of today's physiques are turgid with drugs. The idea that bodybuilding is a "job" has created a class of retards that think they're being "scientific" when they weigh their portions. Just look at photos of Dorian (and others) of that time in the "off season". They were never off the drugs. Smooth as a moose with so much water on him you wonder how he breathes under it all. Probably through gills in their ass. That's true of pretty much all 90s guys.
Smeared on fake tans that even some black guys put on. Gross. Huge guts and hamstrings that are useless for anything but having a schmoe pay them to rub semen into.
It's all drugs 2/24/365. And it continues to this day. No one gets off the dope and even the "classic" guys look like slobs compared to the '70s era winners.
Classic guys are not golden era but they get insanely peeled. That takes dedication.
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The creme of the crap of today's physiques are turgid with drugs. The idea that bodybuilding is a "job" has created a class of retards that think they're being "scientific" when they weigh their portions. Just look at photos of Dorian (and others) of that time in the "off season". They were never off the drugs. Smooth as a moose with so much water on him you wonder how he breathes under it all. Probably through gills in their ass. That's true of pretty much all 90s guys.
Smeared on fake tans that even some black guys put on. Gross. Huge guts and hamstrings that are useless for anything but having a schmoe pay them to rub semen into.
It's all drugs 2/24/365. And it continues to this day. No one gets off the dope and even the "classic" guys look like slobs compared to the '70s era winners.
I wonder if Arnold weighed his food
(https://img-cache.oppcdn.com/fixed/5618/assets/jXEr3aUO.jpg)
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Classic guys are not golden era but they get insanely peeled. That takes dedication.
Yes, but I think that is fueled more by drugs and insanity than by diet and determination.
Your physique would have done well in the '70s. I am reeeeeally old. ;D
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I wonder if Arnold weighed his food
(https://img-cache.oppcdn.com/fixed/5618/assets/jXEr3aUO.jpg)
;D
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Yes, but I think that is fueled more by drugs and insanity than by diet and determination.
Your physique would have done well in the '70s. I am reeeeeally old. ;D
Its not possible to get that level of condition with a coasting attitude and drugs can only do so much to get ripped. Those guys have to suffer.
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These people weighing over 300lbs can't really do "cardio" in the off season. I mean they may slog around on the treadmill going through the motions but that's it. That amount of BF, combined with potential HP, etc... they really don't need to do much other than move around to get their HR up.
Now days everyone tries and expects to be Top 5 at the Mr O in two years. It's a crash course in maxing out their bodies.
I agree with a lot of this but the greats always rose to the top in record speed. Levrone, Wheeler and many others. All were champions "immediately," well maybe not exactly immediately as they typically started juicing at 15-16.
I think I remember Levrone talking on a podcast how he only tried it once or what it was. Or maybe that was growth... oh well
Levrone said he "tried" GH TWICE at a paltry 4iu a day and it ruined his cuts lol.
Its not possible to get that level of condition with a coasting attitude and drugs can only do so much to get ripped. Those guys have to suffer.
I think so too. I'd guess many are so obsessed they have legit eating disorders. The "naturals" are peeled too, probably prep 10 months for a show as it takes time to get that peeled.
I'm guessing these guys are more reliant on drugs. Someone mentioned cardio..Jay cutler said he witnessed nasser doing 3 hrs of cardio in Venice after he got back from a guest pose
Nasser was famous for doing extreme amounts of drugs, like 5-10 grams of test, 10 Anadrol a day with a lot of Winstrol (both are potentially liver toxic so a combo is worse) to the point of having jaundice according to Chad. Milos had written in his journal about Nasser's Anadrol dosage, whatever that's worth.
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what was kevins favourite compounds/gear again?
only I can find now is from his early 90's contest prep which was test, deca, anadrol
but that was like 1992...
I want to know what he did when he looked his best(upper body anyways) like year 97, 98, 99, 2000
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found info on the insulin
Kevin claims he used it only in 1997 ( same year as video in OP post) and that he said got him his biggest ever but distended his midsection which made him not wanting to do it any more.
around 4:00 starts insulin and GH talk
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So according to Dave that did Kevins contest prep /drugs in 1996
1000mg test ew
50mg amps winstrol eod
228mg parabolin ew
4 iu Humatrope hgh ed
14 iu Humulin r insulin ed
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This ^^
A product of the times. More drugs, more food, more rest (an excuse to be lazy for many), more bloat.
Water balloon city...
you got a great point there, i watched one of shawns rays road to the olympia videos , he said in prep for the olympia he was doing cardio twice per day. and he didnt even weight alot
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I think levrones conditioning was at its best in 92, he got bigger but not better in my opinion.
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I think levrones conditioning was at its best in 92, he got bigger but not better in my opinion.
I agree 92 was his best bye far
Wheeler looked his best at 220 in 93
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I agree with a lot of this but the greats always rose to the top in record speed. Levrone, Wheeler and many others. All were champions "immediately," well maybe not exactly immediately as they typically started juicing at 15-16.
Levrone said he "tried" GH TWICE at a paltry 4iu a day and it ruined his cuts lol.
I think so too. I'd guess many are so obsessed they have legit eating disorders. The "naturals" are peeled too, probably prep 10 months for a show as it takes time to get that peeled.
Nasser was famous for doing extreme amounts of drugs, like 5-10 grams of test, 10 Anadrol a day with a lot of Winstrol (both are potentially liver toxic so a combo is worse) to the point of having jaundice according to Chad. Milos had written in his journal about Nasser's Anadrol dosage, whatever that's worth.
10 Anadrol a day! :o
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10 Anadrol a day! :o
he also died before 50,
but then again it could be attributed to synthol use or whatever else too so who knows.
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he also died before 50,
but then again it could be attributed to synthol use or whatever else too so who knows.
It's the total steroids/gh combo that causes cardiovascular disease, he had heart/kidney failure iirc, was on dialysis at the end, supposedly joked about the inches of foam in his urine (indicating protein leakage due to failing kidneys). Steroids cause left ventricular heart hypertrophy and GH compounds the problem. GH is thought of as very safe, which it is in moderate dosage, but mega dose + steroids over time is trouble. Nasser was asked by Chicherillo if he was gh15 once, he said 'I have taken 15 units of GH.' Getbig's tbombz used 40 units for a while before heart failure.
I've argued that Synthol shouldn't be dangerous, it's like coconut oil, only injected, metabolised the same as when eaten. Can cause local muscle damage though.
10 Anadrol a day! :o
It's a lot, so much so some say it cannot be done. I know it can be done, just like 100 Dianabols (same mg) :D I think I have tried 30 for a few day, also 5 Anadrols - not really much worse feeling than say 2 a day. More nosebleeds and headache though.
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It's all really stupid, like dying of stress from working some job you hate for 40 years. This world needs a reset.
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It's all really stupid, like dying of stress from working some job you hate for 40 years. This world needs a reset.
the New World Order is in action Ro but not good.. :-\
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the New World Order is in action Ro but not good.. :-\
Yeah not that kind for sure, Agenda 30 in full swing.
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It's all really stupid, like dying of stress from working some job you hate for 40 years. This world needs a reset.
Yes it does - just so many things wrong & out of balance.
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10 Anadrol a day! :o
He must've had severe anemia!
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He must've had severe anemia!
He doesn't have it now so the Anadrol worked.
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Fuck , you have invoked Rimjob to appear telling us Dorian trained like everyone else.
Which he did.
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Which he did.
For RimJob11
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The best cardio is watching TV and eating pizza.
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The best cardio is watching TV and eating pizza.
Eating pizza fast?
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Eating pizza fast?
Short rests between slices.
Sometimes you superset with trips to the fridge for more beer.
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Short rests between slices.
Sometimes you superset with trips to the fridge for more beer.
High or low frequency of days/week?
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I agree with a lot of this but the greats always rose to the top in record speed. Levrone, Wheeler and many others. All were champions "immediately," well maybe not exactly immediately as they typically started juicing at 15-16.
Levrone said he "tried" GH TWICE at a paltry 4iu a day and it ruined his cuts lol.
I think so too. I'd guess many are so obsessed they have legit eating disorders. The "naturals" are peeled too, probably prep 10 months for a show as it takes time to get that peeled.
Nasser was famous for doing extreme amounts of drugs, like 5-10 grams of test, 10 Anadrol a day with a lot of Winstrol (both are potentially liver toxic so a combo is worse) to the point of having jaundice according to Chad. Milos had written in his journal about Nasser's Anadrol dosage, whatever that's worth.
I had a buddy in college who competed as a SuperHeavy at 19 he def started young they say to wait but the real freaks start young the teenage body responds better to anabolics
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The talent seems watered down nowadays.
Albeit I prefer the 50ies and 60ies, the early 90ies had the best freaks.
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I had a buddy in college who competed as a SuperHeavy at 19 he def started young they say to wait but the real freaks start young the teenage body responds better to anabolics
I've always said this. It's probably not healthy but The Coach here started at 15 via Rx from doc and he's still in great shape.I'm not even joking, if I could go back and decide how I used anabolics in my life I would probably have done some cycles as early as 8 yrs old but I would have moderated my use more later on.
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I've always said this. It's probably not healthy but The Coach here started at 15 via Rx from doc and he's still in great shape.I'm not even joking, if I could go back and decide how I used anabolics in my life I would probably have done some cycles as early as 8 yrs old but I would have moderated my use more later on.
I think so to it makes sense simply because the body in general is healthier and able to tolerate abuse of drugs better when younger.
but there's always exception to the rule. Andrew Jacked has gained alot and I believe he started bodybuilding very late.
Also Kevin Levrone started his first cycle at 24 supposedly(prior to his first competition)
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I think so to it makes sense simply because the body in general is healthier and able to tolerate abuse of drugs better when younger.
but there's always exception to the rule. Andrew Jacked has gained alot and I believe he started bodybuilding very late.
Also Kevin Levrone started his first cycle at 24 supposedly(prior to his first competition)
didnt Kevin win Jnr Nationals?
Whats the age limit for a Jnr in the NPC?
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didnt Kevin win Jnr Nationals?
Whats the age limit for a Jnr in the NPC?
Its not the same junior nationals is like Novice Nationals
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Teenagers should not be juicing especially not hard. The muscle on these guys who blast very young looks puffed up and fake, its not quality muscle which takes time.
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didnt Kevin win Jnr Nationals?
Whats the age limit for a Jnr in the NPC?
I went by this. Moreplatesmoredates did some research
https://moreplatesmoredates.com/kevin-levrones-steroid-cycles/
Kevin Levrone started his first steroid cycle at 24 years old, six weeks out of his first competition (the 1990 NPC Maryland State Championship).
Kevin first steroid cycle was comprised of:
Testosterone Cypionate – 400 mg per week
During that went from 198 pounds up to 206 pounds six weeks later while simultaneously burning fat.
looking like this on 400mg test cyp for 6 weeks? kind of hard to believe but,,, genetics I guess, is kind of important for bb lol
2 years later 2'nd place Olympia
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anyways I recall someone said on a forum he spoke with Kevin about steroids and dosaging and it seemed to him like Kevin didn't understand dosing and what mg numbers was what, what a CC was etc.
I think some guys don't measure things at all and just load up gear from time to time and inject at random when they feel like it and end up alot higher dosages than they claim :D
then when someone asks they say whatever is established as norm and what sounds good.
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Kevin was blessed with perfect genes for bodybuilding. Glad he took advantage of that blessing.
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Kevin was blessed with perfect genes for bodybuilding. Glad he took advantage of that blessing.
For sure.
You can tell when a kid has the muscle bellies for gaining size if they want to
Kevin @ 13 y old with pretty much round capped delts, and and seperation in bicep/brachio showing clearly.
(https://scontent.farn1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/464436556_8663655233750516_4814489855859399605_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0b6b33&_nc_ohc=Wn02NYEcSIIQ7kNvgFqZbDE&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.farn1-2.fna&_nc_gid=AGSR00Afpf1tvuhBg7U8qhz&oh=00_AYDD7gFHm4no_OeUk60xTR7ENIce7PH78V6Mz6v5DkG7Lw&oe=6755FDE8)
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anyways I recall someone said on a forum he spoke with Kevin about steroids and dosaging and it seemed to him like Kevin didn't understand dosing and what mg numbers was what, what a CC was etc.
I think some guys don't measure things at all and just load up gear from time to time and inject at random when they feel like it and end up alot higher dosages than they claim :D
then when someone asks they say whatever is established as norm and what sounds good.
A steroid course when young might not always be called abuse, especially if sides are tightly monitored. GH for example is given in some places even if you aren't a dwarf, just very short which will impact life negatively as a male.
Bodybuilders generally aren't really that interested in the steroids, they want them but don't care about the minutia, what mg their gear is. Today orals aren't counted towards the total usually even by the smart ones for whatever reason, say you like to pop 100mg preworkout of whatever is in the drawer, it's "nothing."
Teenagers should not be juicing especially not hard. The muscle on these guys who blast very young looks puffed up and fake, its not quality muscle which takes time.
Steroid muscle never looks quite the same :D Younger teens can take 10mg of dbol a day for a month and get very visually obvious "muscle" and strength, I saw it in a few 14 year olds when I started. But I'm thinking of studies where 8 year olds were given 20mg of Anavar for a year and apparently didn't suffer sides and final height wasn't affected.
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A steroid course when young might not always be called abuse, especially if sides are tightly monitored. GH for example is given in some places even if you aren't a dwarf, just very short which will impact life negatively as a male.
Bodybuilders generally aren't really that interested in the steroids, they want them but don't care about the minutia, what mg their gear is. Today orals aren't counted towards the total usually even by the smart ones for whatever reason, say you like to pop 100mg preworkout of whatever is in the drawer, it's "nothing."
Steroid muscle never looks quite the same :D Younger teens can take 10mg of dbol a day for a month and get very visually obvious "muscle" and strength, I saw it in a few 14 year olds when I started. But I'm thinking of studies where 8 year olds were given 20mg of Anavar for a year and apparently didn't suffer sides and final height wasn't affected.
How can anyone ever know or claim that?
20mg of Anavar is way above medical use, its pharmacheutical presentation was 2mg pills, to be taken once or twice daily would presume.
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How can anyone ever know or claim that?
20mg of Anavar is way above medical use, its pharmacheutical presentation was 2mg pills, to be taken once or twice daily would presume.
I think the oxandrolone was typically 2.5mg.Well today there are 20mg pills and iirc usual max dose is 40 or 60mg. The TRT places usually give 20mg sometimes cycled up as "hormone optimization" lol, and there is a member here who has talked about his prescribed stack.
I grossly misremembered the dose, it was 2.5mg max in girls and up to 5mg in boys with Turner's syndrome, this went on for years starting at 8-10 and often estrogen added at puberty age in girls, plus GH in most studies. In burn treatments in children it was up to 10mg a day for a year.
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I've always said this. It's probably not healthy but The Coach here started at 15 via Rx from doc and he's still in great shape.I'm not even joking, if I could go back and decide how I used anabolics in my life I would probably have done some cycles as early as 8 yrs old but I would have moderated my use more later on.
Didn't he have a mild stroke a few years back?
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For sure.
You can tell when a kid has the muscle bellies for gaining size if they want to
Kevin @ 13 y old with pretty much round capped delts, and and seperation in bicep/brachio showing clearly.
(https://scontent.farn1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/464436556_8663655233750516_4814489855859399605_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0b6b33&_nc_ohc=Wn02NYEcSIIQ7kNvgFqZbDE&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.farn1-2.fna&_nc_gid=AGSR00Afpf1tvuhBg7U8qhz&oh=00_AYDD7gFHm4no_OeUk60xTR7ENIce7PH78V6Mz6v5DkG7Lw&oe=6755FDE8)
Was he gay in high school?
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Was he gay in high school?
The 80's were a colorfull era.
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I've always said this. It's probably not healthy but The Coach here started at 15 via Rx from doc and he's still in great shape.I'm not even joking, if I could go back and decide how I used anabolics in my life I would probably have done some cycles as early as 8 yrs old but I would have moderated my use more later on.
Luckily you didn't, and enjoyed a drug free adolescence, just playing around with friends, not feeding insecurities of body image.
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Luckily you didn't, and enjoyed a drug free adolescence, just playing around with friends, not feeding insecurities of body image.
not only body image problems but hormonal destruction and serious behavioral problems, fighting and wanting to ride trees etc.
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Luckily you didn't, and enjoyed a drug free adolescence, just playing around with friends, not feeding insecurities of body image.
Yes, the problem with steroid use at that age you don't know what you want to do with your life and it would be someone else making the decision. It's only now that I think I might have benefited from some mild Anavar/GH therapy, sort of modifying my genetic baseline. Body insecurities and such were not something I thought about at that age although I did pick up my first bb mag at 8.
Nowdays some clued in parents are hounding doctors for GH/arimidex for their kid who they want to become star athletes, who would helped by more height. A little Anavar shouldn't hurt either, might even increase height slightly more.
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Yes, the problem with steroid use at that age you don't know what you want to do with your life and it would be someone else making the decision. It's only now that I think I might have benefited from some mild Anavar/GH therapy, sort of modifying my genetic baseline. Body insecurities and such were not something I thought about at that age although I did pick up my first bb mag at 8.
Nowdays some clued in parents are hounding doctors for GH/arimidex for their kid who they want to become star athletes, who would helped by more height. A little Anavar shouldn't hurt either, might even increase height slightly more.
A solid natural base is the best foundation for athletic stardom.
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For sure.
You can tell when a kid has the muscle bellies for gaining size if they want to
Kevin @ 13 y old with pretty much round capped delts, and and seperation in bicep/brachio showing clearly.
(https://scontent.farn1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/464436556_8663655233750516_4814489855859399605_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0b6b33&_nc_ohc=Wn02NYEcSIIQ7kNvgFqZbDE&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.farn1-2.fna&_nc_gid=AGSR00Afpf1tvuhBg7U8qhz&oh=00_AYDD7gFHm4no_OeUk60xTR7ENIce7PH78V6Mz6v5DkG7Lw&oe=6755FDE8)
His son
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Kevin has good genetics in his family for sure. The female Levrone just cleaned up at the Olympics in track in field. He was really athletic and fast.
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The 80's were a colorfull era.
And fruity.
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I've always said this. It's probably not healthy but The Coach here started at 15 via Rx from doc and he's still in great shape.I'm not even joking, if I could go back and decide how I used anabolics in my life I would probably have done some cycles as early as 8 yrs old but I would have moderated my use more later on.
Explains why the coach is prob 5’5 , he should have taken up gymnastics
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I went by this. Moreplatesmoredates did some research
https://moreplatesmoredates.com/kevin-levrones-steroid-cycles/
looking like this on 400mg test cyp for 6 weeks? kind of hard to believe but,,, genetics I guess, is kind of important for bb lol
2 years later 2'nd place Olympia
Kevin would have been 26 , not 24. His “real bd” is 1964 , he revealed it years ago when he turned 52 making his “comeback” in 2016
That being said I don’t take anything that comes out of his mouth, the man is blessed with top genetics but also lies about everything, like most bbers
Take flex wheeler, at his peak he was better than Kevin, better muscle bellies , better symmetry, shape, pretty much everything. And he was on a shit ton of gear. Kevin did a lot, he just makes up a bunch of shit to seem like he didn’t and he was this super human.
My encounters with a lot of these bbers over the years one of the only ones that’s “truthful” and I wouldn’t go all full end either, is Shawn Ray when it comes to gear usage
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one of the only ones that’s “truthful” and I wouldn’t go all full end either, is Shawn Ray when it comes to gear usage
Are you saying he commented on specific gear details to you? I've never once seen him say anything specific about his steroid use publicly :D
Only once did Milos have a spat with Ray and said Ray used too much test suspension :D
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His son
Kevin’s niece, Sydney Levrone
(https://guideposts.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/sydney_mclaughlin-levrone.jpg.webp)
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Kevin would have been 26 , not 24. His “real bd” is 1964 , he revealed it years ago when he turned 52 making his “comeback” in 2016
That being said I don’t take anything that comes out of his mouth, the man is blessed with top genetics but also lies about everything, like most bbers
Take flex wheeler, at his peak he was better than Kevin, better muscle bellies , better symmetry, shape, pretty much everything. And he was on a shit ton of gear. Kevin did a lot, he just makes up a bunch of shit to seem like he didn’t and he was this super human.
My encounters with a lot of these bbers over the years one of the only ones that’s “truthful” and I wouldn’t go all full end either, is Shawn Ray when it comes to gear usage
Agree about everything other than Flex wheeler having better genetics. Flex was great but only for a very short period. Peaked 1993. Then not getting better. By 1997 or so he started SEO and then it really went downhill. Prime Kevin had everything better than Flex, other than maybe back, and that narly x-mas tree Flex had between maybe 93 and 97.
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Kevin’s niece, Sydney Levrone
(https://guideposts.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/sydney_mclaughlin-levrone.jpg.webp)
Decent armpits, 6/10
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Are you saying he commented on specific gear details to you? I've never once seen him say anything specific about his steroid use publicly :D
Only once did Milos have a spat with Ray and said Ray used too much test suspension :D
I wouldn’t say in full detail, but he did talk gear usage and bit, no insulin whatsoever , I want to say in the 3 gram range. He was def “old school” mentality from the John brown era. This was back in the early 2000’s just when he retired
What milos said there’s some truth into that
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Agree about everything other than Flex wheeler having better genetics. Flex was great but only for a very short period. Peaked 1993. Then not getting better. By 1997 or so he started SEO and then it really went downhill. Prime Kevin had everything better than Flex, other than maybe back, and that narly x-mas tree Flex had between maybe 93 and 97.
Flex’s symmetry, shape, smaller waist, muscle bellies, was one of the best of all time. I agree he had a short run and was top for a short time but Levrone was blocky, and had no legs, and back further on his career
(https://i.redd.it/bulntl4v06t31.jpg)
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I wouldn’t say in full detail, but he did talk gear usage and bit, no insulin whatsoever , I want to say in the 3 gram range. He was def “old school” mentality from the John brown era. This was back in the early 2000’s just when he retired
What milos said there’s some truth into that
Thanks, interesting that he went to any detail at all. The guys who refuse to discuss at all with people in the same business are so irritating lol. I once sat at a table with an Olympian pro and an amateur bb, now pro, and the amateur talked about his test dosages and then asked the pro, what about you, how high have you went? None of your business the pro said lol.
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Flex’s symmetry, shape, smaller waist, muscle bellies, was one of the best of all time. I agree he had a short run and was top for a short time but Levrone was blocky, and had no legs, and back further on his career
(https://i.redd.it/bulntl4v06t31.jpg)
he turned pro in 92 and was a top tier pro for 8 years, hardly a short time
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he turned pro in 92 and was a top tier pro for 8 years, hardly a short time
My bad, meant he was at his peak for a short time, only a handful of showings he was at his “best” compared to someone like Ronnie, Dexter, jay, Cormier, Ray, etc that’s what I think of when flex is mentioned. 93 IMO was his all time best
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My bad, meant he was at his peak for a short time, only a handful of showings he was at his “best” compared to someone like Ronnie, Dexter, jay, Cormier, Ray, etc that’s what I think of when flex is mentioned. 93 IMO was his all time best
Let's say he continued to compete with that 93 Arnold body, how would you see it play out?
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Kevin’s niece, Sydney Levrone
(https://guideposts.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/sydney_mclaughlin-levrone.jpg.webp)
With cock?
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Let's say he continued to compete with that 93 Arnold body, how would you see it play out?
With how Dorian came in, and then Ronnie….. it was the mass era, flex wouldn’t have won the O, which he didn’t. Flex’s structure, joints, wouldn’t allow him to play the mass game like guys like Jay , Cormier who had bigger frames
When flex did up the weight, his physique just looked odd , and add in all the lumps on his arms, shoulders, calves, he screwed up his physique
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Kevin’s niece, Sydney Levrone
(https://guideposts.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/sydney_mclaughlin-levrone.jpg.webp)
Cute...
She's obviously named in honor of Arnolds legendary comeback.
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Cute...
She's obviously named in honor of Arnolds legendary comeback.
:D She is cute.
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My bad, meant he was at his peak for a short time, only a handful of showings he was at his “best” compared to someone like Ronnie, Dexter, jay, Cormier, Ray, etc that’s what I think of when flex is mentioned. 93 IMO was his all time best
apart from a couple of blips he placed mostly 1st or 2nd in every show he entered throughout his career
https://www.greatestphysiques.com/male-physiques/kenneth-flex-wheeler/
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I think it is almost more interesting to see what the 90s pros look like now in their 50s than what they looked like in their 20s. The knowledge they picked up from 40-55 is almost more valuable. I want to know who kept the lifestyle up and kept it together and how they did it. We see some crashed horrifically bodies destroyed and others seem to age like fine wine. Why what is the difference between the two. Why is bodybuilding a fountain of youth for some and an early crippling for others.
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I think it is almost more interesting to see what the 90s pros look like now in their 50s than what they looked like in their 20s. The knowledge they picked up from 40-55 is almost more valuable. I want to know who kept the lifestyle up and kept it together and how they did it. We see some crashed horrifically bodies destroyed and others seem to age like fine wine. Why what is the difference between the two. Why is bodybuilding a fountain of youth for some and an early crippling for others.
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LOL ;D
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I think it is almost more interesting to see what the 90s pros look like now in their 50s than what they looked like in their 20s. The knowledge they picked up from 40-55 is almost more valuable. I want to know who kept the lifestyle up and kept it together and how they did it. We see some crashed horrifically bodies destroyed and others seem to age like fine wine. Why what is the difference between the two. Why is bodybuilding a fountain of youth for some and an early crippling for others.
nobody cares what you think. tell the parents of angela johnson what you think. while apologising for letting their daughter go to her death you jumbo coward.
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I think it is almost more interesting to see what the 90s pros look like now in their 50s than what they looked like in their 20s. The knowledge they picked up from 40-55 is almost more valuable. I want to know who kept the lifestyle up and kept it together and how they did it. We see some crashed horrifically bodies destroyed and others seem to age like fine wine. Why what is the difference between the two. Why is bodybuilding a fountain of youth for some and an early crippling for others.
It’s a fantasy never to be able to be maintained or why would they at the point of their careers in their prime? It was their “on “““ job to make a living at something that required. copious amounts of drugs extreme dieting and other various things to sell a fantasy to young guys buying magazines at the time of something that was considered healthy. That lifting weights and eating well is great and having a good physique is nice but you know damn well hanky it’s impossible or healthy to try to jack yourself up until you’re 90 years old on drugs etc. etc. The only guys that maybe you could say wow is Lee Labrada he’s the only one you really see out there and yes he is in fantastic Shape crazy , Gasparri but he’s torn up, Haney looks good but he’s not trying to be Lee Haney anymore.
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His son
Did he get the son with a Black wife?
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Kevin’s niece, Sydney Levrone
(https://guideposts.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/sydney_mclaughlin-levrone.jpg.webp)
Nice but Adelaide is way hotter.
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Did he get the son with a Black wife?
Black women don't marry.