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how do you guys feel about rack pulls. I started doing them this week as Im focused on some heavy training and feel they really hit the back well. The upper half of my dead lift is weak so aiming to help that. I put it about an inch below the kneecap
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You can also use the following method to prepare your nervous system for a record-breaking lift from the ground: Determine the weight you want to deadlift in competition to break the record in your category. Start by lifting this weight in a rack pull from a height you feel comfortable with. Gradually lower the bar (this can be 1 or 2 inches—depending on you and your strength) until you can lift the bar from the ground about two weeks before the planned competition. This slowly and gradually acclimates your nervous system to the weight. This is a very old method used by former world record holder Bob Peoples, and later Paul Anderson.
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I am a fan.
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You can also use the following method to prepare your nervous system for a record-breaking lift from the ground: Determine the weight you want to deadlift in competition to break the record in your category. Start by lifting this weight in a rack pull from a height you feel comfortable with. Gradually lower the bar (this can be 1 or 2 inches—depending on you and your strength) until you can lift the bar from the ground about two weeks before the planned competition. This slowly and gradually acclimates your nervous system to the weight. This is a very old method used by former world record holder Bob Peoples, and later Paul Anderson.
I like this a lotI am a fan.
and Im a fan of you
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I pulled my rack when it was crooked.
Does that count?
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I know a couple of women with huge Racks, does that count 😊
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how do you guys feel about rack pulls. I started doing them this week as Im focused on some heavy training and feel they really hit the back well. The upper half of my dead lift is weak so aiming to help that. I put it about an inch below the kneecap
Seriously, they can help but you must be careful about over-stressing your CNS.
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I like rack pulls, you can go really heavy on those.
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You can also use the following method to prepare your nervous system for a record-breaking lift from the ground: Determine the weight you want to deadlift in competition to break the record in your category. Start by lifting this weight in a rack pull from a height you feel comfortable with. Gradually lower the bar (this can be 1 or 2 inches—depending on you and your strength) until you can lift the bar from the ground about two weeks before the planned competition. This slowly and gradually acclimates your nervous system to the weight. This is a very old method used by former world record holder Bob Peoples, and later Paul Anderson.
This works somewhat in my experience. If you're trying to pull the same weight every week as you get down to within 3-4" from the floor it didn't pan out for me. I had good success overloading at the higher pins and dropping weight by 25-30lbs by the time I got the ground. Example would be if you want to pull 600 from the floor, you start with 635-655 just below the knees and each week drop a pin, when you can't lift it, probably second pin, you drop to 615 or so, then 600 from the floor....just my experience with that technique.
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This works somewhat in my experience. If you're trying to pull the same weight every week as you get down to within 3-4" from the floor it didn't pan out for me. I had good success overloading at the higher pins and dropping weight by 25-30lbs by the time I got the ground. Example would be if you want to pull 600 from the floor, you start with 635-655 just below the knees and each week drop a pin, when you can't lift it, probably second pin, you drop to 615 or so, then 600 from the floor....just my experience with that technique.
you freakin` aminal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
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you freakin` aminal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
Those were just pretend numbers!!11 ;D
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Those were just pretend numbers!!11 ;D
I knew that! ;D
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A bunch of people are weaker on rack pulls than from the floor; I mean if the pull starts just below the knee, which is the usual sticking point. I did a ton of racks, all heights, even just the last millimeters to see how much I could make leave the pins without straps LOL.
Tip on rack pulls: if the load is close to limit weight it might feel like forever before the weight starts moving, don't give up, give it a while just pulling even harder, it feels like seconds but might just be fractions. The subsequent reps are often easier.
Also
Don't be an asshole and bend nice bars on the rack :D We used to set up in the rack then build up boxes on the sides to meet the plates.
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My deadlift has been stuck at 405 for forever. I cant seem to builr explosive strength in my quads glutes. Any advice on that?
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When I used to deadlift I found that rack pulls were perfect for reps in the 3-5 range- it always felt good. Off the floor always caused back pains when repping past 1-2 . I a set the power rack pins just below knee height for my rack pulls. A nice benefit was you could do bent leg deadlifts and get some decent hamstring development too.
I only hit 455 for a double but that was enough for what I was trying to get out of the deadlift (overall body strength).
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My deadlift has been stuck at 405 for forever. I cant seem to builr explosive strength in my quads glutes. Any advice on that?
Deficit pulls. Stand on a block perhaps 3'' high. Try to pull as fast as possible, though you you should never jerk a pull. Build tension first as Coan instructs above and then pull as fast as possible. One variation to build strength off the floor is to first pull to standing position, then go down to where the plates are 2'' off the floor, count one-two, and then explode back up. Deficits suck ass mentally but afterwards you know they are productive :D
Light speed pulls might be beneficial as well, at like 50% 1RM. Put on light bands and do speed pull sets of 2-3 reps, just trying to accelerate throughout, all the way to the top. It's easy to stop accelerating thinking it's too light a weight to pull as hard and fast as possible 8)
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I know a couple of women with huge Racks, does that count 😊
Did you get to pull them?
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Deficit pulls. Stand on a block perhaps 3'' high. Try to pull as fast as possible, though you you should never jerk a pull. Build tension first as Coan instructs above and then pull as fast as possible. One variation to build strength off the floor is to first pull to standing position, then go down to where the plates are 2'' off the floor, count one-two, and then explode back up. Deficits suck ass mentally but afterwards you know they are productive :D
Light speed pulls might be beneficial as well, at like 50% 1RM. Put on light bands and do speed pull sets of 2-3 reps, just trying to accelerate throughout, all the way to the top. It's easy to stop accelerating thinking it's too light a weight to pull as hard and fast as possible 8)
How heavy should I go on those deficits?
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How heavy should I go on those deficits?
Find and read Gary Bedfords book on powerlifting
I knew him personally and he was a real FUCKIING prick
But I did fuck his German nanny though
He is from cbus just like me
And Bob lorimer son of the great jim lormier trained me briefly in 95😎
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Find and read Gary Bedfords book on powerlifting
I knew him personally and he was a real FUCKIING prick
But I did fuck his German nanny though
He is from cbus just like me
And Bob lorimer son of the great jim lormier trained me briefly in 95😎
And next week on things that never happened...
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And next week on things that never happened...
Hahahahaha
You don't have to believe me
Ask blowsforshit to write Blakely again and have him ask Blakely if Bob lorimer trained me in 95😉
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Hahahahaha
You don't have to believe me
Ask blowsforshit to write Blakely again and have him ask Blakely if Bob lorimer trained me in 95😉
ask your mother to suck my cock
I dont believe anything you write.
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Hahahahaha
You don't have to believe me
Ask blowsforshit to write Blakely again and have him ask Blakely if Bob lorimer trained me in 95😉
that backfired, he told me you were an idiot who couldnt navigate reality.
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And I don't care
You are not the only one of this board
Pity most guys here are afraid of being bullied by y'all as they won't throw in with me because to be aligned with me will bring them abuse and ridicule from you worthless sacks of shit
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And I don't care
You are not the only one of this board
Pity most guys here are afraid of being bullied by y'all as they won't throw in with me because to be aligned with me will bring them abuse and ridicule from you worthless sacks of shit
What does "throw in with you" mean?
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What does "throw in with you" mean?
That means back me up
That you are certain I am not lying and telling the truth
I'm sure one of you fucks will dm Bob lorimer on Fagbook and asked him if he briefly trained me in the summit of 1995
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And I don't care
You are not the only one of this board
Pity most guys here are afraid of being bullied by y'all as they won't throw in with me because to be aligned with me will bring them abuse and ridicule from you worthless sacks of shit
I'm with you, dj!
NO HOMO
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And I don't care
You are not the only one of this board
Pity most guys here are afraid of being bullied by y'all as they won't throw in with me because to be aligned with me will bring them abuse and ridicule from you worthless sacks of shit
Correct , no one wants to be aligned with a pedo
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Love rack pulls.
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How heavy should I go on those deficits?
Hard to say, I mean I only ever really did low rep deads, kind of miffed I never tried the 500×20 thing. I think tommywishbone did that :D
But anyway, if for strength I would do them in place of reg deads for a period of time, do the same rep ranges you've found beneficial for reg deads. If someone tends to start hitching when maxing IMO deficit deads take care of that very well, it helps improve form to "comp standards" almost automatically. You can't really hitch a deficit, at least I never saw it. Personally I did only one max set of any variation of deads really, but some like a bit more volume, some even do 5x5 LOL. Some powerlifters thought they could only do circa max deads every other week. My buddy who even managed to get gold in deads in his category at IPF worlds once did 4 extremely hard, almost idiotically so, deadlift sessions a week sometimes :D
For improving the dead and if wanting to try deficits for a while I might suggest one hard set of deficits, maybe 2-4 reps, one or two hard sets of good mornings, some nasty leg curling motion like glute-ham raise. Then some heavy calf moves. If there's still energy left maybe some chest supported rows or other upper back exercise. Once a week :D
I've lived for deads my whole life so I have a lot to say about the subject :D
I've had some nasty upper back spine pain the last few years but to my amazement imaging showed no herniations at all ??? Told doc I've lifted heavy for a long time but they have no idea... like 300kg+ (660) loads weekly for 25 years straight, but unless you lift yourself it's just meaningless numbers LOL.
Love rack pulls.
Nice. Makes you feel alive :D
When I was 15 years old and starting hard deads I went insane from the very beginning. People asked me if I'd been in a fight the days after, broke so many blood vessels in my face it looked like black eyes.
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That means back me up
That you are certain I am not lying and telling the truth
I'm sure one of you fucks will dm Bob lorimer on Fagbook and asked him if he briefly trained me in the summit of 1995
Well, I sometimes believe that YOU believe what you are saying is true.
Is that enough?
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Well, I sometimes believe that YOU believe what you are saying is true.
Is that enough?
Not really
Blakely did coach me and it was confirmed lorimer also coached me and yes I did fuck benfords German nanny
You don't have to believe it because I do not care
All I care about is selling my product and progressing on my Adonis Ratio over the next 6 weeks which I will do.so😉
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Dead at 32- so inspirational lol
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Dead at 32- so inspirational lol
Jm Blakely once said
There.are only 2 kinds of men in the world
Those who weigh over 300 pounds and those who are less than
He made my arrogance look like child's play 😃😃😃😃
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Dead at 32- so inspirational lol
One of the Few with Hereditary/ pre existing heart condition
IIRC his dad died at 31. !!
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Nice one Hulk !!
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Well, I sometimes believe that YOU believe what you are saying is true.
Is that enough?
;D ;D ;D
This is brilliance!
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Years ago I would do rack pulls, from different settings, at some point I was moving over 900 lbs for a few reps, but it's a short range of motion though
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My deadlift has been stuck at 405 for forever. I cant seem to builr explosive strength in my quads glutes. Any advice on that?
Stiff legged deads and Romanian deads. Like Vans said deficit deads are also beneficial.
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Love rack pulls.
Nice work!!
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Stiff legged deads and Romanian deads. Like Vans said deficit deads are also beneficial.
ty
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Hard to say, I mean I only ever really did low rep deads, kind of miffed I never tried the 500×20 thing. I think tommywishbone did that :D
But anyway, if for strength I would do them in place of reg deads for a period of time, do the same rep ranges you've found beneficial for reg deads. If someone tends to start hitching when maxing IMO deficit deads take care of that very well, it helps improve form to "comp standards" almost automatically. You can't really hitch a deficit, at least I never saw it. Personally I did only one max set of any variation of deads really, but some like a bit more volume, some even do 5x5 LOL. Some powerlifters thought they could only do circa max deads every other week. My buddy who even managed to get gold in deads in his category at IPF worlds once did 4 extremely hard, almost idiotically so, deadlift sessions a week sometimes :D
For improving the dead and if wanting to try deficits for a while I might suggest one hard set of deficits, maybe 2-4 reps, one or two hard sets of good mornings, some nasty leg curling motion like glute-ham raise. Then some heavy calf moves. If there's still energy left maybe some chest supported rows or other upper back exercise. Once a week :D
I've lived for deads my whole life so I have a lot to say about the subject :D
I've had some nasty upper back spine pain the last few years but to my amazement imaging showed no herniations at all ??? Told doc I've lifted heavy for a long time but they have no idea... like 300kg+ (660) loads weekly for 25 years straight, but unless you lift yourself it's just meaningless numbers LOL.
Nice. Makes you feel alive :D
When I was 15 years old and starting hard deads I went insane from the very beginning. People asked me if I'd been in a fight the days after, broke so many blood vessels in my face it looked like black eyes.
Ty and as I was reading your post immediately I thought of John Paul Sigmarson, then I saw you quoted him and the flow is smooth with this topic.
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Find and read Gary Bedfords book on powerlifting
I knew him personally and he was a real FUCKIING prick
But I did fuck his German nanny though
He is from cbus just like me
And Bob lorimer son of the great jim lormier trained me briefly in 95😎
A nap will do you good dude, youll see.
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A nap will do you good dude, youll see.
Well.im finally sleeping 6-8 uninterrupted and every wo I am lifting more reps.for more weight 😉
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Dead at 32- so inspirational lol
I say that quote tongue in cheek, plenty of sarcasm, even some sadness. Deadlifts for me have always been extremely important, but of course if you look at it rationally it's ridiculous how much value we attach to whatever little things :D
Ty and as I was reading your post immediately I thought of John Paul Sigmarson, then I saw you quoted him and the flow is smooth with this topic.
I put that pic there with a little snicker in my mind but at the same time in my life it's been scarily true at times. The weights move and everything is bright again for a moment ::) :D
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I say that quote tongue in cheek, plenty of sarcasm, even some sadness. Deadlifts for me have always been extremely important, but of course if you look at it rationally it's ridiculous how much value we attach to whatever little things :D
I put that pic there with a little snicker in my mind but at the same time in my life it's been scarily true at times. The weights move and everything is bright again for a moment ::) :D
Just watched a vid with Larry pollack and Leo mayenhofr and they both clearly said that mast adds ZERO MUSCLE
I made 3 separate comments on that vid😁😁😁😁
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Just watched a vid with Larry pollack and Leo mayenhofr and they both clearly said that mast adds ZERO MUSCLE
I made 3 separate comments on that vid😁😁😁😁
Do you agree with them?
It used to be what everyone thought, even very recently like just a couple of years ago. Some top coaches etc.
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Do you agree with them?
It used to be what everyone thought, even very recently like just a couple of years ago. Some top coaches etc.
Completely agree with them
200 deca killed 500 mast as far as muscle size and muscle fullness was concerned
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What do you mean "rack pulls"?
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how do you guys feel about rack pulls. I started doing them this week as Im focused on some heavy training and feel they really hit the back well. The upper half of my dead lift is weak so aiming to help that. I put it about an inch below the kneecap
My busted lower back is only confortable doing deads with a trap bar. The grip is higher about 4 or 5 inches than the standard deads. Something about the amount of offset the bar gets from my spine.
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A nap will do you good dude, youll see.
A bullet to his head will cure all his silliness.
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Dead at 32- so inspirational lol
And died doing what he loved.......deadlifting. The name says it all.
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A bullet to his head will cure all his silliness.
I will take what we can get
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Completely agree with them
200 deca killed 500 mast as far as muscle size and muscle fullness was concerned
I drone on and on about drug minutiae that few read, and you won't listen, but still I'll say you haven't used enough of it to know what it does. If you had done say 6-700mg for 8 months then you could say it isn't "anabolic" for you. There's no reason for why it wouldn't be an effective anabolic and even tour fave Dr Todd says it's his primary anabolic.
"Fullness" isn't much of a gauge. I have seen guys on 2 grams of test, 1 gram of deca and 1 gram of EQ "flat as fuck" in prep.
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Completely agree with them
200 deca killed 500 mast as far as muscle size and muscle fullness was concerned
hahahaha hes never been over 165lbs in his life
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Did them for years both when bodybuilding and lifting for strength (football). I think there’s always room in strength training for this lift when applied with a discreet purpose. Admittedly I did them back during college football because they looked awesome. Cant say they didn’t help a bit. But my cleans and deadlifts probably would have been better if I’d focused on pulling from the floor or a deficit instead. But I was young and stupid.
I’m far less charitable for their purpose in bodybuilding. As Kyomo would say, “bodybuilding is the muscle”. I joke but still. Muscles grow when we take them to exhaustion against resistance. I’ll argue the rack dead fails to really target any muscle better than superior lifts. Traps suck? High rows and shrugs nail traps better than rack dead’s. Erectors suck? Rack dead’s have too little ROM when lifts such as Romanian dead’s or back extensions or full ROM cable rows with spinal flexion target erectors over a fuller ROM. Glutes and hams suck? Again, Romanian dead’s take those two muscles through a fuller ROM. If I only had five minutes to hit all those groups, I guess. But if you’re trying to build a physique 5 minutes at a time, you’re not a bodybuilder. Not serious anyway.
But if you can’t lock out a dead or suck at getting a bar over your knees in a conventional dead and you’re training to boost your dead for a competition then they have a place.
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snx sighting!
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25 years ago I did a movement that I learned as rack pulls. I probably got it from Powerlifting USA Mag.
Load the bar with 50% of your max. Set the safety bars at your sticking point. Lift and hold the bar against the safety bar for a whatever count.
It’s almost an isometric lift.
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Did them for years both when bodybuilding and lifting for strength (football). I think there’s always room in strength training for this lift when applied with a discreet purpose. Admittedly I did them back during college football because they looked awesome. Cant say they didn’t help a bit. But my cleans and deadlifts probably would have been better if I’d focused on pulling from the floor or a deficit instead. But I was young and stupid.
I’m far less charitable for their purpose in bodybuilding. As Kyomo would say, “bodybuilding is the muscle”. I joke but still. Muscles grow when we take them to exhaustion against resistance. I’ll argue the rack dead fails to really target any muscle better than superior lifts. Traps suck? High rows and shrugs nail traps better than rack dead’s. Erectors suck? Rack dead’s have too little ROM when lifts such as Romanian dead’s or back extensions or full ROM cable rows with spinal flexion target erectors over a fuller ROM. Glutes and hams suck? Again, Romanian dead’s take those two muscles through a fuller ROM. If I only had five minutes to hit all those groups, I guess. But if you’re trying to build a physique 5 minutes at a time, you’re not a bodybuilder. Not serious anyway.
But if you can’t lock out a dead or suck at getting a bar over your knees in a conventional dead and you’re training to boost your dead for a competition then they have a place.
So stiff legged deadlifts work your glutes? Are you sure because I do not feel them there at all.
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So stiff legged deadlifts work your glutes? Are you sure because I do not feel them there at all.
Lighten the weight and try it again.
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I drone on and on about drug minutiae that few read, and you won't listen, but still I'll say you haven't used enough of it to know what it does. If you had done say 6-700mg for 8 months then you could say it isn't "anabolic" for you. There's no reason for why it wouldn't be an effective anabolic and even tour fave Dr Todd says it's his primary anabolic.
"Fullness" isn't much of a gauge. I have seen guys on 2 grams of test, 1 gram of deca and 1 gram of EQ "flat as fuck" in prep.
I ran mast each time for 6+ months
DECA IS KING 👑👑👑
Oh and you will clearly see this within weeks😉
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Lighten the weight and try it again.
Appreciate the advice, I was hoping SNX would share more as well. Guess we will have to wait another decade or so...
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My deadlift has been stuck at 405 for forever. I cant seem to builr explosive strength in my quads glutes. Any advice on that?
It's hard to give great advice when you haven't really revealed just how hard you've tried / what you've tried.
Aside from the suggestions, if you want a shotgun approach: if you've never done this, you could try 6 weeks of AMREP deadlifts (warmup and then either 1 or 2 sets at weight) at escalating percentages. IE, something like 60% 1RM + 5% every week until maybe 85%. Your heart rate will be absolutely through the roof but you will get very good at the movement and you will tend to do it at speed because every time you deadlift, you push your HR up and it becomes a bit of a race with yourself.
Every time you do it, use a 1RM calculator to project what your 1RM would be and always try to beat what it projects you need the next week. Yeah, it's a bit bullshit but to me, having something to "rate" and beat every week really does give extra impetus that translates. If you repeat the cycle again, you can just try to beat your last 60% (maybe increase to 62.5%).
Doesn't matter what you do - if you are not gauging yourself, you're not doing it right. You need to be in a competition with yourself all the time. That gives you the bar to beat. For me, there is no heavier session than a damn supposed "backoff/deload" session and there's a very good reason for that - because you know that you don't have to try to beat something and it makes you less prepared, mentally.
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So stiff legged deadlifts work your glutes? Are you sure because I do not feel them there at all.
Try another sport like Ping pong :D
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Try another sport like Ping pong :D
Blakely hated that term
He made damn sure that everyone called it table tennis
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Blakely hated that term
He made damn sure that everyone called it table tennis
But on a serious note.. he should try using Heavy Dumbbells on Stiff deads / Romanian Deads
always "felt" these better
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But on a serious note.. he should try using Heavy Dumbbells on Stiff deads / Romanian Deads
always "felt" these better
I'm not the one to talk to when it comes to lower body.training 🤣🤣🤣
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I’m far less charitable for their purpose in bodybuilding. As Kyomo would say, “bodybuilding is the muscle”. I joke but still. Muscles grow when we take them to exhaustion against resistance. I’ll argue the rack dead fails to really target any muscle better than superior lifts. Traps suck? High rows and shrugs nail traps better than rack dead’s. Erectors suck? Rack dead’s have too little ROM when lifts such as Romanian dead’s or back extensions or full ROM cable rows with spinal flexion target erectors over a fuller ROM. Glutes and hams suck? Again, Romanian dead’s take those two muscles through a fuller ROM. If I only had five minutes to hit all those groups, I guess. But if you’re trying to build a physique 5 minutes at a time, you’re not a bodybuilder. Not serious anyway.
Some coaches argue that deadlifts aren't a back exercise at all! It's just glutes and hams. At best the the back muscles 'stabilize' the weight isometrically during the lift.
I mute my mind to those silly arguments! Look at JP's deficits, brutal lift, brutal back!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXeehxfoY9G/
Doesn't matter what you do - if you are not gauging yourself, you're not doing it right.
That's key. Some will argue that bodybuilders shouldn't count reps or even give the weight on the bar much thought, opting more for some more vague gauge like mind-muscle connection, pump or perceived effort given, "we aren't powerlifters!" I don't like that so much LOL. But there's a trap in being numbers obsessed unless you also don't consider standardizing your reps. What I mean by that is that the log book is meaningless unless the tempo, form and execution, speed of reps and so on is the same always. If you take a couple of breaths before doing an additional rep to PR an exercise, as opposed to last time, it wasn't really a PR 8)
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I'm not the one to talk to when it comes to lower body.training 🤣🤣🤣
I was refering to the chap who asked Chaos about Stiff Deads training his Glutes, if only working his Glutes he should maybe use a cable exercises..
Stiff Deads work the Hammies fully, Glutes, erectors if used properly
However if Homosexuality is his goals for tight buns maybe i would suggest a vibro Butt Plug :D
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Some coaches argue that deadlifts aren't a back exercise at all! It's just glutes and hams. At best the the back muscles 'stabilize' the weight isometrically during the lift.
I mute my mind to those silly arguments! Look at JP's deficits, brutal lift, brutal back!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXeehxfoY9G/
Does he only Deadlift? If not what % of that Back development is just Deadlifts?
I am not against Deads but i think as a lat developer it´s over rated.
rows in any form are far superior
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Does he only Deadlift? If not what % of that Back development is just Deadlifts?
I am not against Deads but i think as a lat developer it´s over rated.
rows in any form are far superior
According to mike mentzer it works every single muscle on the backside of the body
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According to mike mentzer it works every single muscle on the backside of the body
A Squat does the same but it´s not a Back exercise is it? The Lats & other Back muscles have specific functions.
But again i am not against any form of deadlifts, just don´t think it´s the Dogs Bollocks
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Does he only Deadlift? If not what % of that Back development is just Deadlifts?
I am not against Deads but i think as a lat developer it´s over rated.
rows in any form are far superior
Yes I wasn't so much arguing that's responsible for his back, I just get fired up seeing that, both the lift and the animalistic back, I jokingly said I don't want to hear arguments against deads 8)
However JP has argued those lifts have grown his back and are most helpful. Basically he says if you get strong on movements like this you'll be "thick" inevitably (although he still very much considers all little nuances in lifts to properly engage body parts). But how could you prove or disprove it, know what I mean? But I would say, for example, that traps will grow from just deads, even if there's zero range of motion, just stretch and contraction against a load. Provided there's extra androgens in circulation of course (naturals don't really have what we call impressive traps) :D
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Yes I wasn't so much arguing that's responsible for his back, I just get fired up seeing that, both the lift and the animalistic back, I jokingly said I don't want to hear arguments against deads 8)
However JP has argued those lifts have grown his back and are most helpful. Basically he says if you get strong on movements like this you'll be "thick" inevitably (although he still very much considers all little nuances in lifts to properly engage body parts). But how could you prove or disprove it, know what I mean? But I would say, for example, that traps will grow from just deads, even if there's zero range of motion, just stretch and contraction against a load. Provided there's extra androgens in circulation of course (naturals don't really have what we call impressive traps) :D
If training Traps i would do other exercises but my point is the Lats are not fully trained properly with Deadlifts, the upper back sure to a point & i think you´re correct in your points..but again i am not anti- Deads.
By the way i got my Trap Bar ;)
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I was refering to the chap who asked Chaos about Stiff Deads training his Glutes, if only working his Glutes he should maybe use a cable exercises..
Stiff Deads work the Hammies fully, Glutes, erectors if used properly
However if Homosexuality is his goals for tight buns maybe i would suggest a vibro Butt Plug :D
I remember a thread here arguing that hip thrusters were gay and 'didn't do anything.'
I said of course they do something, the glutes do work... duh. I wasn't saying they were better than something else, just that they "work" :D
Mentzer used to always say something about how important the fully contracted position was in lifts, and thrusters do load the contracted position great LOL. He said 100% of the fibers will only be engaged in that position; without looking it up he was probably wrong. The "research" seems to say loading the stretched portion of the movement is the most beneficial and some say you might even forego the fully contracted part completely without missing out.
BigRo may have something to say about this :D
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If training Traps i would do other exercises but my point is the Lats are not fully trained properly with Deadlifts, the upper back sure to a point & i think you´re correct in your points..but again i am not anti- Deads.
By the way i got my Trap Bar ;)
I absolutely get your point, JP does too.
If you like full range of motion, for traps I have one exercise I have never seen anyone else do IRL. Of course everything has been done by others but I came up with it myself back in the 90s. Stand sideways towards a smith machine bar and do one arm shrugs (straps absolutely needed). I almost guarantee you will feel the range is much longer compared to other shrug variations. A couple of fellas trying this claimed they saw some new trap growth after just a couple of sessions LOL. Donny, and anyone else, please try this just once and tell me what you thought :) You can do this with a low pulley attachment as well.
Edit. Deads with a band for even more glute emphasis :D
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Hey van the man
Calves only need lengthen partials
Top range dose NOTHING for them 😉
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Hey van the man
Calves only need lengthen partials
Top range dose NOTHING for them 😉
so you do top range for yours then?
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I have not did a fuckimg calf rasie in over 30 years
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I have not did a fuckimg calf rasie in over 30 years
hence zero development- so your opinion is irrelevant
great english my the way
i have not did- WTF
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I absolutely get your point, JP does too.
If you like full range of motion, for traps I have one exercise I have never seen anyone else do IRL. Of course everything has been done by others but I came up with it myself back in the 90s. Stand sideways towards a smith machine bar and do one arm shrugs (straps absolutely needed). I almost guarantee you will feel the range is much longer compared to other shrug variations. A couple of fellas trying this claimed they saw some new trap growth after just a couple of sessions LOL. Donny, and anyone else, please try this just once and tell me what you thought :) You can do this with a low pulley attachment as well.
Edit. Deads with a band for even more glute emphasis :D
How could I forget about bands??? I used to put the safeties up high and wrap the bands around them. Overload the bar and pull from the floor. Great lockout help as well.
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They're the bee's knees if you like them and have fun doing them.
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How could I forget about bands???
Because you don't lift.
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hence zero development- so your opinion is irrelevant
great english my the way
i have not did- WTF
What the hell does "my the way" even mean? DJ is fine. You're the one who talks like a wacko.
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What the hell does "my the way" even mean? DJ is fine. You're the one who talks like a wacko.
Thanks for the support brother 💪🙏
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What the hell does "my the way" even mean? DJ is fine. You're the one who talks like a wacko.
get fucked
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snx sighting!
I’m Late to reply because I’m a delinquent ass. I hope you are well Grape, and that friends and family are well too. All the best, man.
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I’m Late to reply because I’m a delinquent ass. I hope you are well Grape, and that friends and family are well too. All the best, man.
Same to you buddy.
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Stand on a bench or platform when doing stiff leggeds and stick your ass back more.
NO HOMO
try it ,it works.
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Stand on a bench or platform when doing stiff leggeds and stick your ass back more.
NO HOMO
try it ,it works.
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