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Great physique and here was his total stack
250 test
100 primo
15-25 ng of var daily
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second time posted nobody gives a fuck
you wont ever look like him on 10x the dosage
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Never said I would
My size gaining genetics are horrible
Best I could hope for is bout 165 at 5%
Biggest I've been at 5% was bout 157 of so
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I once picked up a prescription for anavar from the pharmacy for Phil. At the time he was on low does test, Winstrol v, and anavar. This was 1987 when Phil was working at George Turner's gym in Saint Louis.
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I once picked up a prescription for anavar from the pharmacy for Phil. At the time he was on low does test, Winstrol v, and anavar. This was 1987 when Phil was working at George Turner's gym in Saint Louis.
Cool
Thanks for the feedback
Much appreciated
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Phil trained with extremely slow reps to failure, and long rest between sets.
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great physique
did he do a version of arthur jones type training?
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Not sure where Phil got his training philosophy. George Turner had a big influence how most in the gym trained
But, Phil trained differently than us all
I was training with Tom Varga that turned pro a few years later at the Nationals.
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quallity that mate!
any interesting tales from your training days?
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second time posted nobody gives a fuck
you wont ever look like him on 10x the dosage
DJ181 is also a liar. He said he only blocks people who call him a pedophile.
I have never once called him that. Not once. Yet, he blocked me.
Another lie by DJ181.
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Great physique and here was his total stack
250 test
100 primo
15-25 ng of var daily
If you believe that's all he took you're dumber than I thought.
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Great physique and here was his total stack
250 test
100 primo
15-25 ng of var daily
"Dream on dreamer"
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"Dream on dreamer"
They say thier cycles 57 minutes in
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I'd just started following BB when Phil stomped folks we still discuss today. :D
https://musclememory.com/show.php?c=Chicago+Pro+Championships+-+IFBB&y=1988
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I'd just started following BB when Phil stomped folks we still discuss today. :D
https://musclememory.com/show.php?c=Chicago+Pro+Championships+-+IFBB&y=1988
Wow!
He beat a very impressive lineup
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DJ181 is also a liar. He said he only blocks people who call him a pedophile.
I have never once called him that. Not once. Yet, he blocked me.
Another lie by DJ181.
I wonder what happened?
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If I'm not mistaken Phil lived here in Gothenburg. My old training buddy trained a bit with him and also Andreas Cahling. Told some stories where Andreas was passed out on benches between sets from G and then they would do bumps in the bathroom. I've lost contact with the dude but I can tell you the cycles changed according to availability and whims. Andreas had told my buddy after a night of drinking that the cure for hangover was taking a shot of Sust and then he hit his lat right there.
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If I'm not mistaken Phil lived here in Gothenburg. My old training buddy trained a bit with him and also Andreas Cahling. Told some stories where Andreas was passed out on benches between sets from G and then they would do bumps in the bathroom. I've lost contact with the dude but I can tell you the cycles changed according to availability and whims. Andreas had told my buddy after a night of drinking that the cure for hangover was taking a shot of Sust and then he hit his lat right there.
So you don't buy his cycle of.
250.test
100 primo.
15-25:var
Mine Christian claimed
250 test and 200 deca once every 5 days and 76 parabolan once a week and 20-25 var daily
Ill run 600 deca and 200 test once I get my hands on the DECA
CANT FUCKIMG WAIT
I LOOOOVVVVVVEEEE DECA
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So you don't buy his cycle of.
This gets old even for me bro :D
It does not matter
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So you don't buy his cycle of.
250.test
100 primo.
15-25:var
Mine Christian claimed
250 test and 200 deca once every 5 days and 76 parabolan once a week and 20-25 var daily
Ill run 600 deca and 200 test once I get my hands on the DECA
CANT FUCKIMG WAIT
I LOOOOVVVVVVEEEE DECA
So shut off your natural test production and don't replace it with enough in steroids and add deca.
...Smart,very smart...
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This gets old even for me bro :D
It does not matter
The other dude claimed he used about the same cept he used 100 durabllom and 15:mgs var with 250 test
I looked very good on 200 test and 200 deca
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So shut off your natural test production and don't replace it with enough in steroids and add deca.
...Smart,very smart...
Huh?
140 test is full replacement just ask Greg douchey and dr tood pee Lee
They both only run 140 test
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I wonder what happened?
Maybe hes mad because my profile pic is a homage to his handsome face.
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If you believe that's all he took you're dumber than I thought.
It's really not that hard to believe. He's not that big of a guy at 5'8 195-198. Searle Anavar back then was a real, pharmaceutical 2.5mg per. If he was taking 25mg that's 10 per day. Primo might a little low but the test is about right. Remember that there were no knock off's. In the video his conditioning was very good for that time. Add in his great genetics, it's not hard to believe at all.
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pic of him a few years back, both he and samir are dwarfed by women bbber sharon bruneau.
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It's really not that hard to believe. He's not that big of a guy at 5'8 195-198. Searle Anavar back then was a real, pharmaceutical 2.5mg per. If he was taking 25mg that's 10 per day. Primo might a little low but the test is about right. Remember that there were no knock off's. In the video his conditioning was very good for that time. Add in his great genetics, it's not hard to believe at all.
Ex-fucking-actly
If you have great genetics you can be 5'8 200 onstage with less than 1 gram gear total
Hatfield said back in 1984 and that is needed is 1 gram.per kg per day so for 200 ie 90 kg that's 630 mgs a weellk
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Searle Anavar back then was a real, pharmaceutical 2.5mg per... Remember that there were no knock off's.
It's a myth that the gear was better then, I'm not a chemist but the technology to produce steroids is comparatively very easy compared to for example the peptides that the Chinese are producing in mass quantities, at purities that are better than many American and other "pharma" grade products. Add to this, "HRT clinics," which you've utilized yourself, are often prescribing Anavar at 40-50mg a day!!! as "Sports HRT" or "Hormone Optimization" to guys who hardly know how to train. They are produced "legally" in US compounding pharmacies. REAL Anavar is easy to get from UG now and from the clinics. They even make buccal troches of Anavar that they claim avoid the first pass metabolism and are therefore more gentle. This prescribing is probably a bit irresponsible and unethical maybe, even for me, but I would never complain if I was in the states...
Not commenting on the plausibility of the dosing at all, can be real.
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It's a myth that the gear was better then, I'm not a chemist but the technology to produce steroids is comparatively very easy compared to for example the peptides that the Chinese are producing in mass quantities, at purities that are better than many American and other "pharma" grade products. Add to this, "HRT clinics," which you've utilized yourself, are often prescribing Anavar at 40-50mg a day!!! as "Sports HRT" or "Hormone Optimization" to guys who hardly know how to train. They are produced "legally" in US compounding pharmacies. REAL Anavar is easy to get from UG now and from the clinics. They even make buccal troches of Anavar that they claim avoid the first pass metabolism and are therefore more gentle. This prescribing is probably a bit irresponsible and unethical maybe, even for me, but I would never complain if I was in the states...
Not commenting on the plausibility of the dosing at all, can be real.
gear in the early 90s was almost all Pharma , you didn't get multi vial shit knocked up in a bathtub.
Anyone who has had the real pharma Parabolon from France will tell you it was night and day compared to todays tren
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DJ181 is also a liar. He said he only blocks people who call him a pedophile.
I have never once called him that. Not once. Yet, he blocked me.
Another lie by DJ181.
Actually a brutal take down here of DJ. Heel or sensitive account blocker?
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Actually a brutal take down here of DJ. Heel or sensitive account blocker?
bj181 is a retarded mommy’s boy. A gutless coward hiding in some shithole country so that his ex-wife’s new boyfriend doesn’t throw him another beating.
For chrissakes he can’t bench press 155 lbs or squat 225 lbs. He’s like Shitzo, you have to wonder why they are even here.
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Actually a brutal take down here of DJ. Heel or sensitive account blocker?
If you spew vicious or hateful things about me, I’m not listening. That’s your problem, not mine.
I’m focusing on becoming a kinder, gentler version of myself. Forever gone are Cheque Drops, Drol, and Halo.
Forever in: Deca and Primo. These two make me chill as hell — and I’ll only ever run them alongside a Test base.
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If you spew vicious or hateful things about me, I’m not listening. That’s your problem, not mine.
I’m focusing on becoming a kinder, gentler version of myself. Forever gone are Cheque Drops, Drol, and Halo.
Forever in: Deca and Primo. These two make me chill as hell — and I’ll only ever run them alongside a Test base.
If you add in some dbol is the only way you will get enough size to get the most possible adonis ratio you so badly want.
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gear in the early 90s was almost all Pharma , you didn't get multi vial shit knocked up in a bathtub.
Anyone who has had the real pharma Parabolon from France will tell you it was night and day compared to todays tren
Yes - absolutely no comparison- you were hard pushed to take more 3 76mg shots a week
Yet look at the huge doses of Trenbolone so many are using with zero issues 🙄
Clearly even a blind man can see there's a huge difference.
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gear in the early 90s was almost all Pharma , you didn't get multi vial shit knocked up in a bathtub.
Anyone who has had the real pharma Parabolon from France will tell you it was night and day compared to todays tren
I know you've said this, many times, and I've pushed back. I only used a couple of the Negma Para. In fact, it was why I stopped using gear for a couple of years as it triggered my panic anxiety at like 18. I still hold that the tren is identical now. That this drug can't be recreated is absurd. That the Chinese can make ultra pure GH better than 'Western Pharma' but can't make Para makes zero sense. Besides, many pharma steroids can still be had. Absolutely no one I know bothers with it. Well, I've told you I've had the Cidoteston you like, but I've mostly used then to cut painful UG gear.
Yes - absolutely no comparison- you were hard pushed to take more 3 76mg shots a week
Yet look at the huge doses of Trenbolone so many are using with zero issues 🙄
Clearly even a blind man can see there's a huge difference.
I now use 25-35mg of UG Tren Enanthate a week and I can feel it. Why? It's potent. At some point I tried 150mg of acetate a day for a very brief amount of time and I lived through it, it was rough, but the point is that it can be done. Either you condition yourself through long exposure or you take some sleeping pills, or you accept feeling like death, whatever. I had some very, very dark moments on tren to be sure :D It's like street drugs, someone feels like a heart attack is coming off a few bumps and then some do 5 grams or whatever they claim they've done. I've had some Black Afghan Hashish where 5 grams lasted me for months of daily use but then someone tells me they did it in a night or two and it was true.
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bj181 is a retarded mommy’s boy. A gutless coward hiding in some shithole country so that his ex-wife’s new boyfriend doesn’t throw him another beating.
For chrissakes he can’t bench press 155 lbs or squat 225 lbs. He’s like Shitzo, you have to wonder why they are even here.
I very much wish they weren't here.
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I know you've said this, many times, and I've pushed back. I only used a couple of the Negma Para. In fact, it was why I stopped using gear for a couple of years as it triggered my panic anxiety at like 18. I still hold that the tren is identical now. That this drug can't be recreated is absurd. That the Chinese can make ultra pure GH better than 'Western Pharma' but can't make Para makes zero sense. Besides, many pharma steroids can still be had. Absolutely no one I know bothers with it. Well, I've told you I've had the Cidoteston you like, but I've mostly used then to cut painful UG gear.
the french parablon were 78mgs per mil in a 1.5ml vial
You would need at least 600-700 mgs of todays tren to get the same effect as the pharma ones.
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the french parablon were 78mgs per mil in a 1.5ml vial
You would need at least 600-700 mgs of todays tren to get the same effect as the pharma ones.
76mg per 1.5ml vial 😊👍🏻
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the french parablon were 78mgs per mil in a 1.5ml vial
You would need at least 600-700 mgs of todays tren to get the same effect as the pharma ones.
So if someone like Janoshik tests UG Parabolan and it comes out legit what then accounts for the difference? Governments utilize this guy to test things, he's legit. I have never seen anyone offer any explanation, certainly no chemists or experts. All there is is old timers swearing up and down 'it's just not the same.' Many guys forget they are older now and nothing works as well now.
https://janoshik.com/
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76mg per 1.5ml vial 😊👍🏻
I stand corrected
I dont think Van has ever had them, likley copies back then
Imagine taking ten of those a week (760mgs)
Most people I knew could only manage two and then they had anxiety and crazed thoughts, not to mention huge low back pumps
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were they Negma?
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were they Negma?
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damnnnnnnnnnn i totally remember these
I used to get preloads of sustanon from Mexico and hammer those 20 gauge pencil end needles into my leg. Ah young and dumb
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It's really not that hard to believe. He's not that big of a guy at 5'8 195-198. Searle Anavar back then was a real, pharmaceutical 2.5mg per. If he was taking 25mg that's 10 per day. Primo might a little low but the test is about right. Remember that there were no knock off's. In the video his conditioning was very good for that time. Add in his great genetics, it's not hard to believe at all.
You know better than me but I'm still doubtful.
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Yep, awesome stuff. Even came with a little scoring saw
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Huh?
140 test is full replacement just ask Greg douchey and dr tood pee Lee
They both only run 140 test
250
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I stand corrected
I dont think Van has ever had them, likley copies back then
Imagine taking ten of those a week (760mgs)
Most people I knew could only manage two and then they had anxiety and crazed thoughts, not to mention huge low back pumps
Yes exactly- absolutely no way you could take 10 of them a week.
My Training partner Back then was Mr Britain & Mr Universe winner & is fair to .
Say he liked he's gear 😊 not mad just used plenty - Both he & I were using
2 a week along with sust , we decide to go to 3 a week & after 2 wks we couldn't
Do squats / deadlifts / bent rows as our low back completely siezed up,
Went like concrete we had to lay face down & wait for it to ease off.
We soon went back to 2 a week.
Dorian said the same as he could just about handle 3 a week any more & the
Exact same happened to him low back siezed up.
Though the effects of just 2 a week were startling for me I was ripped almost
Contest ready - very strong & recovered quickly.
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I stand corrected
I dont think Van has ever had them, likley copies back then
I bought a couple in like 96, I think they were real because there wasn't any quantity of them available, were just a couple of leftovers. Didn't see them after that. The ones today are better because they can get 100mg+ to hold in a ml LOL. The UG Winstrol today is miles better too. Zambon was 50mg and often clogged a needle, today you can have 100mg micronized stanozolol that is less painful and basically flows through an insulin needle almost. I shot Zambon with a 1.2mm/16 gauge needle to avoid the hassle of having it clog.
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Yes exactly- absolutely no way you could take 10 of them a week.
What exactly would happen if you took 10 a week? The lower back would seize up even more? My back was so painful off 20mg Dbol in the beginning I could hardly drive home after gym sometimes. How come I could then later take 150mg of the same ones without issue? One friend took 10mg of Dbol and complained of pumps, I emptied 3 blisters into my hand along with 10 Dymetadrine ephedrines before a workout and he was like "NO WAY BRO, YOU'RE GOING INTO LIVER FAILURE!" :D
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What exactly would happen if you took 10 a week? The lower back would seize up even more? My back was so painful off 20mg Dbol in the beginning I could hardly drive home after gym sometimes. How come I could then later take 150mg of the same ones without issue? One friend took 10mg of Dbol and complained of pumps, I emptied 3 blisters into my hand along with 10 Dymetadrine ephedrines before a workout and he was like "NO WAY BRO, YOU'RE GOING INTO LIVER FAILURE!" :D
I have no idea what would happen if you took 10 shots
As I said my training partner & I could get along with 3 - so there was no
Way we'd be trying 4,5,6 & beyond.
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The other dude claimed he used about the same cept he used 100 durabllom and 15:mgs var with 250 test
I looked very good on 200 test and 200 deca
What was the name of that fella who trained with Mentzer after Mentzer stopped competing, he's on the youtubes still? I think he said they both took 300mg of Durabolin a day. Then he said Mentzer demanded he be driven to crack houses to buy meth.
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I have no idea what would happen if you took 10 shots
As I said my training partner & I could get along with 3 - so there was no
Way we'd be trying 4,5,6 & beyond.
I know. But then some freak goes higher and more and more people try it and see they didn't immediately die and it was in fact possible :D But for sure, tren is potent at lower doses; like I said I notice it at just 5mg or less per day! Para was 50mg of pure tren (the fatty ester was 26mg) and I think the usual dose for medical reasons was every 14 days? So 25mg of pure tren per week.
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I know. But then some freak goes higher and more and more people try it and see they didn't immediately die and it was in fact possible :D But for sure, tren is potent at lower doses; like I said I notice it at just 5mg or less per day! Para was 50mg of pure tren (the fatty ester was 26mg) and I think the usual dose for medical reasons was every 14 days? So 25mg of pure tren per week.
I don't get what you're point is & why you're intent to contradict what
Jo, Dorian, & I said.
I really do not care how much someone else could take.
If they could handle 10 shots a week whoopee do for them.
;D
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i did 1ml organonsust and 1ml tren acetate M/W/F
I lasted 4 weeks- gains were insane but broke out in hives most days which was horrific
but it was an absolute different-level-I went from using 40kg dumbells for arnold press to 55s for 12. insane
Loved it
am due back on mid sept when new gym opens.
doing
600mg test
300mg deca
200mg
mast for 12 weeks.
due to illness I have had to learn to walk again so have lost a lot of muscle but muscle memory is great!
anyone see this as a bad cycle?
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I used those love quality amps back in he 90`s...........none of this hombrewed garbage.
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i did 1ml organonsust and 1ml tren acetate M/W/F
I lasted 4 weeks- gains were insane but broke out in hives most days which was horrific
but it was an absolute different-level-I went from using 40kg dumbells for arnold press to 55s for 12. insane
Loved it
am due back on mid sept when new gym opens.
doing
600mg test
300mg deca
200mg
mast for 12 weeks.
due to illness I have had to learn to walk again so have lost a lot of muscle but muscle memory is great!
anyone see this as a bad cycle?
Damn - 38 sorry to hear about your illness.
Seems a few of us on here have been through the wars with health issues
This past year.
Hope you're recovering well 👊🏻👍🏻😊
That stack sounds fine & you'll get some good gains.
Will you be at Nathan's gym ??
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You guys with your fancy amps; I was making Tren from pellets in the 00’s.
Not the best Tren you can buy, but it’s hard to imagine anything stronger.
Never had any cough or anything like that, but I think a taste in my mouth.
Felt side effects on, but coming off was worse.
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i did 1ml organonsust and 1ml tren acetate M/W/F
I lasted 4 weeks- gains were insane but broke out in hives most days which was horrific
but it was an absolute different-level-I went from using 40kg dumbells for arnold press to 55s for 12. insane
Loved it
am due back on mid sept when new gym opens.
doing
600mg test
300mg deca
200mg
mast for 12 weeks.
due to illness I have had to learn to walk again so have lost a lot of muscle but muscle memory is great!
anyone see this as a bad cycle?
I hope you feel better soon my friend.
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I remember having to pull my car off the road to stretch my lower back............the cramping was insanely agonizing.
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damnnnnnnnnnn i totally remember these
I used to get preloads of sustanon from Mexico and hammer those 20 gauge pencil end needles into my leg. Ah young and dumb
i fuckin loved those.. that gold oil.. i think it was sesame at the time.. some of the first gear i ever used in like 1998...along with tornel deca and some pink anabol.. young and dumb too, i had no idea how good that shit was until i was shooting some shit w no label lol.
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Damn - 38 sorry to hear about your illness.
Seems a few of us on here have been through the wars with health issues
This past year.
Hope you're recovering well 👊🏻👍🏻😊
That stack sounds fine & you'll get some good gains.
Will you be at Nathan's gym ??
cheers mate!
yep long story short got clots in my legs, vasculitis and acute gout. inflammation levels of 128- should be 0.1 to 5.0. was a matter of hours from losing my legs as the inflammation had stopped blood flow. I had bloods day before and my new gp phoned me and told me to get to hospital instantly. that was april. had to learn to walk again. its going to be. along road back. Ihad acute gout in 14 multi joints at once- which was the worst the royal liverpool had seen until some bastard came in with 15 2 weeks ago! Genuinely lucky to be alive. In hospital tomorrow for CTI scan other than that am now back with the GP
I will be going nathans at the weekend but going to a gym called trident in the week as its open 24 hours and I will be training 10-11p.m. its also close to where I live so just trying to recalibrate and find something that will work.
as I said its going to be a long road back lost a lot of muscle BUT muscle memory should be great.
onwards chaps!
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pic of him a few years back, both he and samir are dwarfed by women bbber sharon bruneau.
I hoped they double stuffed her for old time sake.
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I don't get what you're point is & why you're intent to contradict what
Jo, Dorian, & I said.
I really do not care how much someone else could take.
If they could handle 10 shots a week whoopee do for them.
;D
I'm simply saying that claiming the gear today is fake because otherwise they couldn't take as much as they do is baloney :D You had rank beginners taking the equivalent of 30 Para a week, you know the gh15 crowd of kids, despite gh15 never recommending such. It just boggles my mind why some insist tren can't be duplicated, like it's some moon landing level type stuff to make it.
When I had my anxiety from Para I thought no way could anyone handle any quantity of tren at all without debilitating effects, I remember thinking I wouldn't give this shit to my worst enemy. It took 15 years before I dared try it again, that's how bad it was. I was in hell and praying for death. From just a couple of Para. True story.
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I'm simply saying that claiming the gear today is fake because otherwise they couldn't take as much as they do is baloney :D You had rank beginners taking the equivalent of 30 Para a week, you know the gh15 crowd of kids, despite gh15 never recommending such. It just boggles my mind why some insist tren can't be duplicated, like it's some moon landing level type stuff to make it.
When I had my anxiety from Para I thought no way could anyone handle any quantity of tren at all without debilitating effects, I remember thinking I wouldn't give this shit to my worst enemy. It took 15 years before I dared try it again, that's how bad it was. I was in hell and praying for death. From just a couple of Para. True story.
Don't accuse me of things I didn't say - I didn't say today's gear is all crap.
If you so choose to think you or anyone else could handle 10 76mg Negma Parabolan
Then Good for you.
I personally disagree.
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If you add in some dbol is the only way you will get enough size to get the most possible adonis ratio you so badly want.
Dbol is ok because if keeps me cool
But Leo mayhofer told me not to run orals anymore
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What was the name of that fella who trained with Mentzer after Mentzer stopped competing, he's on the youtubes still? I think he said they both took 300mg of Durabolin a day. Then he said Mentzer demanded he be driven to crack houses to buy meth.
Larry pollack but that was in the mid 80s year after. Mike quit the game
His actaul 70s cycle was...
400 deca every 10-14 days
25 dbool
So bout 400 mgs a.week. and he was 5'8 ripped 210 on stage
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What was the name of that fella who trained with Mentzer after Mentzer stopped competing, he's on the youtubes still? I think he said they both took 300mg of Durabolin a day. Then he said Mentzer demanded he be driven to crack houses to buy meth.
And they took is eod
So bout 1000 a week
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Ai advised my to drop.the deca down to 400 from 600 so I will
Never running any orals ever again and the only other inject ill use as Primo
Both those guys ran what j will run cept they both used VAR but like I said Leo told me to ditch the var so I will do so
Ill add primo later even if I need it