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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Dredlock Rasta on May 15, 2006, 05:15:49 PM
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who wins?
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who wins?
I think Phil has a better overall physique.
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I think Phil has a better overall physique.
As much as I respect Priest, Heath would be the winner. :(
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As much as I respect Priest, Heath would be the winner. :(
I agree. The judges love height and Phil has some really full muscle bellies in his tris and quads. Better back than Priest and better conditioning.
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WHATEVA !!!!!!
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I agree. The judges love height and Phil has some really full muscle bellies in his tris and quads. Better back than Priest and better conditioning.
A good analysis is that Heath contains the better overall package. Priest has everything but chest.
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Heath all the way!
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A good analysis is that Heath contains the better overall package. Priest has everything but chest.
Heath has back, chest, quads, glutes, hams, tied on tris......the list goes on. His superior conditioning makes these muscles look better.
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Heath wins by structure, priest wins by novelty value.
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Heath has back, chest, quads, glutes, hams, tied on tris......the list goes on. His superior conditioning makes these muscles look better.
Yes, I agree, he has a great overall appearance. Something at such a young age is very impressive.
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We need to start a 20 page long picture thread like they have for Dorian and Ronnie! ;D
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I agree. The judges love height and Phil has some really full muscle bellies in his tris and quads. Better back than Priest and better conditioning.
are you actually gonna compare a part of lee's arm to phil's? get the fuck outta here
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What The F@#k Eva !!!!!
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I think Lee needs to start increasing his leg mass again. I was looking at the side shots at the ASC. Dexter, Melvin, Gustavo, Branch, ect...all beat Lee in the side poses do to their huge and cut thighs.
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lee's more of a size freak but he really does look very stubby. his structure and since his legs are almost always soft and watery give the nod to phil in my opinion. plus the missing chest issue.
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lee's more of a size freak but he really does look very stubby. his structure and since his legs are almost always soft and watery give the nod to phil in my opinion. plus the missing chest issue.
Great post. Lee's inability to get his legs dry makes me fear that his kidneys are failing :-\
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He has always had a drier upper body compared to his lower half.
That's good. He seems like a good guy; I dont want him to be in poor health.
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Great post. Lee's inability to get his legs dry makes me fear that his kidneys are failing :-\
SORRY TO TELL YOU HAD BLOOD WORK DONE THE OTHER DAY ALL IS GOOD.
SO DR FOX PLEASE TRY AGAIN
BLAH BLAH BLAH :P
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SORRY TO TELL YOU HAD BLOOD WORK DONE THE OTHER DAY ALL IS GOOD.
SO DR FOX PLEASE TRY AGAIN
BLAH BLAH BLAH :P
Why are you sorry to tell me? This is great news! I'm certainly no doctor; just your average 160 pound geek ;D
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Heath has back, chest, quads, glutes, hams, tied on tris......the list goes on. His superior conditioning makes these muscles look better.
lol Lucius get off the Heath nut-hugging. Heath has Lee on lats, chest(but his chest isn't great either), and conditioning thats it. Lee kills him on delts, tri's, bi's, forearms, calves and still beats him (but it is closer) on quads, hams, and spinal erectors. They both have structural flaws.
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lol Lucius get off the Heath nut-hugging. Heath has Lee on lats, chest(but his chest isn't great either), and conditioning thats it. Lee kills him on delts, tri's, bi's, forearms, calves and still beats him (but it is closer) on quads, hams, and spinal erectors. They both have structural flaws.
Lee doesn't have better tris. I'll give him bis, forearms and calves, but it's not like he kills him ::) Heath wins on conditioning and polish. Post you pic ::)
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Both great bb's. I'm a huge Lee fan and depending how they came in a comp would decide who wins.
Very close ;D
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I think Lee would beat Phil on size AND condition. I don't know what you guys were watching saturday but Phil condition is nothing special. He doesn't have dexter-like conditionning yet.
Phil beat Lee on structure it isn't even a debate, but Phil isn't big enough yet to beat Lee
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Heath pulls better faces :)
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I think Lee would beat Phil on size AND condition. I don't know what you guys were watching saturday but Phil condition is nothing special. He doesn't have dexter-like conditionning yet.
Phil beat Lee on structure it isn't even a debate, but Phil isn't big enough yet to beat Lee
Lee has a soft lower body and is almost never able to dial in the glutes or the quads. Have your eyes been clawed out by eagles? ???
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Are we talking about bodybuilding? Midget toss or hotdog eating contests?
Bodybuilding- Heath
Midget Toss- Priest
Nathan's hotdog eating contest- Priest
See, 2 out of 3 aint bad..
Oh also how about runing your body with retarded tattoos.. Again Priest wins hands down!! ;D
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Are we talking about bodybuilding? Midget toss or hotdog eating contests?
Bodybuilding- Heath
Midget Toss- Priest
Nathan's hotdog eating contest- Priest
See, 2 out of 3 aint bad..
Oh also how about runing your body with retarded tattoos.. Again Priest wins hands down!! ;D
I must agree with you there, FOR REAL! I don't understand why people get out of control with ugly tattoos ??? ;D
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Heath dwarts Lee..
And also Heath can slam dunk
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Lee can slam dunk a doughnut at dunkin doughnuts.. no prob..
he can also be an extra in willy wanka and the chocolate factory...
OOOMPA LOOMPA DOOOPITY DOOOOOOO
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Lee can slam dunk a doughnut at dunkin doughnuts.. no prob..
he can also be an extra in willy wanka and the chocolate factory...
OOOMPA LOOMPA DOOOPITY DOOOOOOO
ROFL!!!
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No contest Heath. Why else do you think Lee went to PDI, guys like Heath will somke Lee. End of story and don't kid yourself hardcore b/c you know it is true.
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Lee has a soft lower body and is almost never able to dial in the glutes or the quads. Have your eyes been clawed out by eagles? ???
Lee's upper body hardness own phil
that is a fact
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Lee has Heath beat on nail texture and thats about it. They both have crappy pecs!
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SORRY TO TELL YOU HAD BLOOD WORK DONE THE OTHER DAY ALL IS GOOD.
SO DR FOX PLEASE TRY AGAIN
BLAH BLAH BLAH :P
Hey Lucius, what Lee is tryin to say is that you suck fat dick.
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Hey Lucius, what Lee is tryin to say is that you suck fat dick.
You you speack gay too?
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Heath has Lee on lats, chest(but his chest isn't great either), and conditioning thats it. Lee kills him on delts, tri's, bi's, forearms, calves and still beats him (but it is closer) on quads, hams, and spinal erectors. They both have structural flaws.
Agreed
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Can we see how Heath does in future contests before announcing him as the secong coming?
Remember Kamali got 4th in his first contest and qualified for the O - hasn't done crap since.
Remember Art Atwood won his first pro contest - he hasn't competed in a long time.
Remember Richard Jones was supposed to be the next O champ - he really didn't live up to his expectations yet.
I have seen threads comparing Heath to Lee, Flex, etc. It's only been one show so far - let's wait and see what happens. Le's see what he looks like compared to Jay and the other mass-ers...
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i was suprised to read that phil competed at under 220 lbs. i would have to give it to priest- esp. this year at the arnold, aussie, and san fran, when he showed up hard, full, and dry. there is just something freaky aboug lee that phil may never have.
if only lee was competing like he was in 98....
225 lbs. on a 5'4 frame and was one of the hardest guys in any show.
lee, what happened?
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You guys are smoking crack. So I guess Franco Coulmbo was a shitty BBer because he was short? Dumbest fucking logic I have ever heard. How is it you think that taller guys with smaller measurements are more impressive than a shorter guy with better and bigger proportions? "It's pathetic!"-Lee. I'm thinking that you PMed Lee and he didn't respond so now you're pissed. I honestly think that if you both saw Lee face to face you would not say shit anout his height or physique. Would you? Ah, jealously thy name is dickhead 1 (FOR REAL) and dickhead 2 (HOW DOG). ;D
Logic can be dumb?
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Priest is better. Heath needs to establish himself more first of all. Secondly the competition at the Colorado was weak exept for Darrem but Priest I think is better than Darrem when they're both in best shape.
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Anyhow anyway, I wish both all the best in this coming mr.olympia..
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who wins?
Both in top shape, Heath, if both are a bit off Lee P may get him due his overall mass and shape, guns, etc
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Are you stoned? Probably considering your name. ;D
Logic cannot itself be dumb, however an argument can be illogical.
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heath is more complete but priest if in shape and full cant beat anyone hes a freak and small waist. for the 98 225 i was thinking the same thing and was looking at some old mags lee was still tight at that wieght but he didnt display the condition he does now he came in at the ironman at 209 and tight as fuck...
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Phil is nothing more then a hype
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i was suprised to read that phil competed at under 220 lbs. i would have to give it to priest- esp. this year at the arnold, aussie, and san fran, when he showed up hard, full, and dry. there is just something freaky aboug lee that phil may never have.
if only lee was competing like he was in 98....
225 lbs. on a 5'4 frame and was one of the hardest guys in any show.
lee, what happened?
Preist has never been 225 in contest shape more like 200 pounds.I think somebody has been lying about weight the sameway saying Arnold had 22 inch arms when in reality he had 20 inch arms.Though i give Lee credit he has guenuine 21 inch arms and is a better bodybuilder than Columbo ever was when comparing height to physique.
I find it impossible to say whos better Heath or Preist until theres a direct comparison on stage.
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I think we should hear it from the man himself. Lee can you tell us?
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Heath Ledger?
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Wrong. He competed at about 225 in the 1990's. He didn't drop weight to 200 or under until he won his first pro victory in San Fran a few years back.
I Know he claimed 225 but it was never tested on a scale till the 2005 Ironman where he weighed 199.I cannot see 25 pounds of lost muscle when he took out the Iron Man in 2006 when compared to pitures of him in the 90s.To lose 25 pounds that equates to about 10% of lost muscle on a 5,4 frame.
When you compare Flex in the 90s to Preist in the 90s its somewhat confusing that Flex weighed in the region of 230 pounds and that Preist was 225.When you compare the photos Flex is visibly much bigger.
I say Preist never weighed 225 in contest shape as simple as that,If your reading this Lee please inform us of the truth.
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Wrong. He competed at about 225 in the 1990's. He didn't drop weight to 200 or under until he won his first pro victory in San Fran a few years back.
That is true --when the ripped ass started being the decideing factor which i still dont have and never will .Do i care ?f**k NO :)
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That is true when the ripped ass started being the decideing factor which i still dont have and never will do i care f**k NO :)
I admire your stand against ripped asses.
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i believe Lee competed at 220 or something. I mean look at this picture. He's BIIIG.
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Priest vs Heath...
Is that a serious question?
LMFAO...
Heath is not in the same league.
Heath is a second tier.
Priest is a legend.
YIP
Zack
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I admire your stand against ripped asses.
I just think the whole glute thing is nuts.You ca nbe shredded everywhere but if your ass isn't they say your out of shape.I have seen ripped glutes on guys but soft in other places yet they place well.I never got into bodybuilding to have the best ASS i like the big arms,legs and thst freaky look.Not once did i look in a mag and say "SHIT I WANT AN ASS LIKE THAT" :)
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i believe Lee competed at 220 or something. I mean look at this picture. He's BIIIG.
218 TO 220 WAS MY WEIGHT BACK THEN I WAS 220 AT THE NOC IN 2000.
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I just think the whole glute thing is nuts.You ca nbe shredded everywhere but if your ass isn't they say your out of shape.I have seen ripped glutes on guys but soft in other places yet they place well.I never got into bodybuilding to have the best ASS i like the big arms,legs and thst freaky look.Not once did i look in a mag and say "SHIT I WANT AN ASS LIKE THAT" :)
Denial is not a nice state to live in. You know you want shredded glutes; the kind that will cut the tongue of anyone who tries to lick them ;D
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Man, please. Lee at his best SMOKES Heath.
End of story. ;)
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That is true --when the ripped ass started being the decideing factor which i still dont have and never will .Do i care ?f**k NO :)
Lee is proven bopdybuilder with a long, impressive record, but I still think Heath would be tough for 99% of all pros to beat when he looks like he did in Colorado. Howard
PS/ Lee, you are 100% on the the new PDI, NOC this fall?
Howard
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That is true --when the ripped ass started being the decideing factor which i still dont have and never will .Do i care ?f**k NO :)
That suprises me Lee you actually had 30 pounds on Franco Columbo in the 90s at 225.I take your word on it, Getting that ripped at 225 is phenomenol is it the only factor you dropped the 25 pounds for better conditioning in the Hamstrings and Glutes or is it you have better symytry at 200.
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in that pic with Jay and Markus he's obviously the weight he says 218-220.
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Lee, for you next show you should try to comes in in the low 220's. that would be awesome, fuck the ripped glutes
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Tommi Thordivlsen or whatever his name is. Ripped ass and as far as I know, never placed that high and is not competing. Plus, who here could say that their woman would want to see striations on their ass?
as long as some cute woman is willing to put her fine heiny near my face, I am happy ;D
I , like Lee P, Have no interest in guys bums, striated or not
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you all need to stop it with the glutes. Lee has made it clear that it's not a glute contest and won't come in to show glutes. When that glute stuff started and they were talking about coleman's glutes so much i felt like it was really stupid right from the start.
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you all need to stop it with the glutes. Lee has made it clear that it's not a glute contest and won't come in to show glutes. When that glute stuff started and they were talking about coleman's glutes so much i felt like it was really stupid right from the start.
Glutes are a muscle ::)
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there's also muslce in your feet, fingers and FACE! wanna add those into the judging. "His arms are off but he's totally making it up with his most muscular face pose!"
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there's also muslce in your feet, fingers and FACE! wanna add those into the judging. "His arms are off but he's totally making it up with his most muscular face pose!"
Glutes are a large muscle. Try to be reasonable ::)
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The glutes are a major muscle but it's not like anyone is walking on stage with a sagging ass. Arnold even said the lengths that people are taking conditioning is not necessary for bodybuilding.
Let me guess; you don't have striated glutes ::)
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Lol. No the synthol ::) keeps them from getting ripped. Honestly though, would you say Dorian was not conditioned even though he did not have striated glutes like Ronnie?
Dorian actually did have striated glutes! I don't think they are the be all and end all of conditioning tests.
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Lol. No the synthol ::) keeps them from getting ripped. Honestly though, would you say Dorian was not conditioned even though he did not have striated glutes like Ronnie?
Synthol ::) in the glutes is a brilliant idea for middle aged men who need the padding :o
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Lol. Not even close to middle age but I'll remember it it the years to come. As for Dorian, I never noticed that but thanks for the info. I do agree that it is not the end all be all of conditioning.
I think full body conditioning is more important and that bodybuilders without ripped glutes should just wear larger posing trunks.
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Gotta go with Lee on this one. I love freaks as long as they manage to keep their waist slim, and Lee has been able to do that.
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i believe Lee competed at 220 or something. I mean look at this picture. He's BIIIG.
Wow! Look at the calves on Lee, better yet all three of them have great calves. That's rare in bodybuilding. At the Colorado show between Heath, Charles, and Henry, Heath had the best calves out of them :-\
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Wow! Look at the calves on Lee, better yet all three of them have great calves. That's rare in bodybuilding. At the Colorado show between Heath, Charles, and Henry, Heath had the best calves out of them :-\
Heath's calves are solid, but not outstanding.
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there's also muslce in your feet, fingers and FACE! wanna add those into the judging. "His arms are off but he's totally making it up with his most muscular face pose!"
Yeah i have two big muscles in my hand they don't have i will through in the front double hand shot.Extra points there ...:)
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i believe Lee competed at 220 or something. I mean look at this picture. He's BIIIG.
Lee this at this weight you looked crazy! I think better than at 199
210 - 215 is a middle ground
Food for thought!
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Yeah i have two big muscles in my hand they don't have i will through in the front double hand shot.Extra points there ...:)
Great point. Not! ::)
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Phil is nothing more then a hype
How do you figure that?
Heath won the USA on his very first try, at a rather young age. That's impressive in its own right, considering all the guys who are turning pro in their mid-to-late 30s, slogging at the national-level shows for years.
And, Heath won his first pro show, pulling off a HUGE upset against a red-hot Darrem Charles, who was the odds-on favorite to win.
Charles has won at least one pro show the last four years, although the big criticism about him is that, as Shawn Perine of FLEX put it when writing about his win in Orlando, he tends to win the late shows when a lot of other Mr. Olympia competitors are not around to compete.
Nonetheless, beating someone like Charles, especially if you're a rookie, ain't exactly small potatoes. So, Heath has done well for himself thus far.
Both Priest and Heath were young phenoms. Remember that Priest won his country's national title THREE times. I remember seeing footage of Priest on American Muscle in 1994 (I have it on tape). It was at the San Francisco (or San Jose) Pro show. The commentator said about Priest, "The most impressive thing about Lee is his age. Until recently, he couldn't even get into a night club. Mass fans are already beginning to worship the young Priest." Priest placed 7th, I think. The top 5 were (from bottom to top): Achim Albrecht, Ronnie Coleman, David Dearth, Porter Cottrell, and winner Kevin Levrone.
Heath has already defeated one well-established pro with mulitpe pro wins. Should he and Priest go toe-to-toe, it wouldn't surprise me, if he walked away victorious. It would certainly be a HUGE feather in his cap.
To put things in perspective, it took Lee Priest 10 years to register his first win. However, part of that may have been due to Priest, at time, being one of those Olympia-to-Olympia competitors (since cracking the top ten, until 2003, meant a qualification for the following year's O).
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as much i as i think heath is the next big thing, but c'mon now... lee has got to have the next freakiest physique next to coleman. If u scale coleman down to same hght as lee, same type of freakiness. and not ev'ry one has placed top 6 in the "O" 3x's.. priest kicks ass.
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Great point. Not! ::)
Shut up! Priest could kick your monkey ass any day.
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Shut up! Priest could kick your monkey ass any day.
I would defeat him handily in a Greco-Roman wrestling match and would then proceed to destroy him in a marathon ::)
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The marathon maybe but def not a wrestling match.
I'm sure he would violate the rules at some point and wind up handing me the victory ;D
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Priest all the way
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The days of the Priest is over. The reign of the Heath is just beginning. Phil Heath is the rookie of the year!
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Heath rules almost as much as science does!