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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: the shadow on September 05, 2006, 12:19:39 PM
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the other day i was watching there training clips and damn they train so damn fast its crazy...damn i have never seen any one train that fast and intense..is there any name to that type training..they both train faster than coleman and equally intense.my fuckin gym instructor always tells me to go slow and concentrate on my contractions.so does this warren and jackson style of training really help in building muscle.damn their rep speed are like crazy fast...i have never seen any one train that fast..and they don't even have sloppy form..most of the guys who train that way have sloppy form.they both have decent form with lighting speed..wow
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i saw one clip in youtube...i think they fastforwarded the clip to make him do pull ups really fast...u didnt watch that one did u.... ;D
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the other day i was watching there training clips and damn they train so damn fast its crazy...damn i have never seen any one train that fast and intense..is there any name to that type training..they both train faster than coleman and equally intense.my fuckin gym instructor always tells me to go slow and concentrate on my contractions.so does this warren and jackson style of training really help in building muscle.damn their rep speed are like crazy fast...i have never seen any one train that fast..and they don't even have sloppy form..most of the guys who train that way have sloppy form.they both have decent form with lighting speed..wow
they can do it because they're sauced to the gills and are pretty much idiots with good genetics that just touch weights and grow. They're also hella short. Easy to build mass with any means when your limbs are of midget status. Not hating here, just stating the fact.
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And yes, that video of Branch hitting 14 or so reps with 405 on incline is obsenly fast. I was watching for a pec tear with each and every rep.
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by training faster, you can use more weight, which will in turn build more strength and mass.
training like that also works the type 1 fibers better, which are for speed and strength.
ever see an olympic lifter train?
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sure, with full body movements. Not on those more isolated movements like presses on a bench of any kind. But sure, if you body can handle it... What about "time under tension" for hypertrophy?
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Here is something you could try:
-load the bench press bar with the maximum weight it can handle
-get underneath
-get 5 guys to spot it of
-let it drop
Come back to me with the results.
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force = mass * velocity
it makes sense to rep as fast as you can, without letting momentum take over or injuring urself.
i don't believe slow repping has done shat for me over the years.
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force = mass * velocity
it makes sense to rep as fast as you can, without letting momentum take over or injuring urself.
i don't believe slow repping has done shat for me over the years.
I rep pretty fast too at times. never really thought about it too much.
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I have nothing against lifting explosively but if you ever saw JOJ do barbell curls with 225 you would agree that the line between working the muscle and cheating your way through the entire movement has been crossed. However I will say that it doesn't seem to hurt his development.
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I have nothing against lifting explosively but if you ever saw JOJ do barbell curls with 225 you would agree that the line between working the muscle and cheating your way through the entire movement has been crossed. However I will say that it doesn't seem to hurt his development.
that moron claims he can curl 245 for 8-10, hahahahaha, even Bill Kazmaier couldn't do that and Bill makes JOJ look like an underfed Brad Pitt.
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force = mass * velocity acceleration
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I have nothing against lifting explosively but if you ever saw JOJ do barbell curls with 225 you would agree that the line between working the muscle and cheating your way through the entire movement has been crossed. However I will say that it doesn't seem to hurt his development.
Is it THAT sloppy?
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Is it THAT sloppy?
He does this in his Next Level DVD, someone on here probably has a clip. Let's put it this way, if you grabbed a barbell with the same grip you would normally use for curls, and then proceeded to do a hang clean, you would pretty much mimick Johnnie's form.
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I have nothing against lifting explosively but if you ever saw JOJ do barbell curls with 225 you would agree that the line between working the muscle and cheating your way through the entire movement has been crossed. However I will say that it doesn't seem to hurt his development.
i'm sure bill could do that.
years ago, i read about lee priest saying his best curl was a few reps with 315.
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Ive tried to apply that same speed and intensity to my own personal training, and have really noticed the benefits. If youve ever seen the battle for the olympia video 05, branch and johnnie kill off a thourough chest workout in about 30 mins. They still manage to use strict form too!
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heres that video of warren incline bench pressing like a maniac...wow
http://ironvideos.com/view_clip.php?id=14
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heres an another clip where the bench rod slips out of the hands of warren..damn they both train like animals
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Steroids is a powerful drug ...
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I have som pics of them training and posing together in a magazine called body (swedish). Ill post the pics later (kinda tired).
those pics really show just how fast those bastards train! :o
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heres that video of warren incline bench pressing like a maniac...wow
http://ironvideos.com/view_clip.php?id=14
and branch has torn almost every muscle in his body why? :o
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and branch has torn almost every muscle in his body why? :o
no way man..he looks ok to me.form where did you heard this crap from?
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heres that video of warren incline bench pressing like a maniac...wow
http://ironvideos.com/view_clip.php?id=14
he didn't lock out a single rep and the way he's arched that's more like a flat bench, horrible form
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he didn't lock out a single rep and the way he's arched that's more like a flat bench, horrible form
but that works for him though and yes warrens chest is bigger than yours..as long he is big and ripped he can use wat ever form he wants to..and yes that form was not horrible jackass
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but that works for him though and yes warrens chest is bigger than yours..as long he is big and ripped he can use wat ever form he wants to..and yes that form was not horrible jackass
hahahaha, his form was horrendous on those, He couldn't do 3 reps correctly.
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hahahaha, his form was horrendous on those, He couldn't do 3 reps correctly.
Me thinks that after a set, his lowerback and hams are probably pumped hahaha
Monster "Lfting with Momentum" Excuse
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Sarcasm, are you saying Branch picks a weight he just can't handle?
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Sarcasm, are you saying Branch picks a weight he just can't handle?
actually warren does some fast reps because of the weight being heavy.today i tried to do lift warren and joj style in my shoulder workout and believe me if you are lifting heavy weight and if you do fast reps the weight you are lifting actually appears to be light because wat you want to do at that point is to lift that weight and fast pace actually makes it easy to lift heavy weight.i have tried to do full reps but in the end it is of no use.you strain alot on your joints and there is possibilty of getting injured if you are trying to get full contractions. i think so warren and johnnie are pro bodybuilders and wat ever they do its right
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actually warren does some fast reps because of the weight being heavy.today i tried to do lift warren and joj style in my shoulder workout and believe me if you are lifting heavy weight and if you do fast reps the weight you are lifting actually appears to be light because wat you want to do at that point is to lift that weight and fast pace actually makes it easy to lift heavy weight.i have tried to do full reps but in the end it is of no use.you strain alot on your joints and there is possibilty of getting injured if you are trying to get full contractions. i think so warren and johnnie are pro bodybuilders and wat ever they do its right
epic justification for using weight that you're not big or strong enough to handle.
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epic justification for using weight that you're not big or strong enough to handle.
dude joj and warren are pro bodybuilders and they know wat they can handle.they both are strong as hell and they are lifting to get big and thats wat important to them..the way the lift is a bit different..who said warren and johnnie cannot handle heavy weight..they just lift the weight their own way
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Sometimes not locking out on the bench can keep the weight on the pecs and not the triceps and shoulders. It isn't that bad what he did. Those guys were the biggest guys I have ever seen I think though. Did anyone else notice they all looked kinda the same in those clips :-\?
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Sometimes not locking out on the bench can keep the weight on the pecs and not the triceps and shoulders. It isn't that bad what he did. Those guys were the biggest guys I have ever seen I think though. Did anyone else notice they all looked kinda the same in those clips :-\?
naah man.warren and james looked bigger than jackson and melvin
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naah man.warren and james looked bigger than jackson and melvin
I guess what I meant was overall shapes. They were all big and you are probably right about warren and james, but, it just seemed to me there were no differences in the shape of each guy. Mind you they were covered in sweats, so maybe I am being weird here.
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the other day i was watching there training clips and damn they train so damn fast its crazy...damn i have never seen any one train that fast and intense..is there any name to that type training..they both train faster than coleman and equally intense.my fuckin gym instructor always tells me to go slow and concentrate on my contractions.so does this warren and jackson style of training really help in building muscle.damn their rep speed are like crazy fast...i have never seen any one train that fast..and they don't even have sloppy form..most of the guys who train that way have sloppy form.they both have decent form with lighting speed..wow
Yeah, it's pretty tough to "train quick and intense" with 1/4 to 1/2 range reps and unneccessary grunting......they're inspirational. If you wanna give credit to something/someone for the bb's fantastic physical achievements go kiss each bb's parents and each bb's syringes.
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Yeah, it's pretty tough to "train quick and intense" with 1/4 to 1/2 range reps and unneccessary grunting......they're inspirational. If you wanna give credit to something/someone for the bb's fantastic physical achievements go kiss each bb's parents and each bb's syringes.
ahahhaha your so retarded man.warren and jackson are the real pros.and we all know they are superstars of bodybuilding and you are not..your just jealous that they are big and ripped and your one of those skinny gym dudes who boast alot whne in reality they are nothing but wannabes
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they are both fucking midgets! if you've ever seen em in person, they're built like pigs. compact as hell and big!
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is it me, or seeing them rep 405 like that isnt that impressive anymore after knowing all the stuff they take.
How they look is more impressive to me.. 8)
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they're both 5'5" 215lbs.
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is it me, or seeing them rep 405 like that isnt that impressive anymore after knowing all the stuff they take.
How they look is more impressive to me.. 8)
You gotta give them props for training with heavy ass weights. I heard that Johnnie Jackson does very little in terms of "pharmaceuticals". I think its from Ron Harris.
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that moron claims he can curl 245 for 8-10, hahahahaha, even Bill Kazmaier couldn't do that and Bill makes JOJ look like an underfed Brad Pitt.
Kazmaier used to barbell curl 405.
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Kazmaier used to barbell curl 405.
hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kazmaier used to barbell curl 405.
The most ridiculous post in getbig history.
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they are both fucking midgets! if you've ever seen em in person, they're built like pigs. compact as hell and big!
you are fucking fat pig you pig..they are as huge as fucking bulls...they would make your small frame looks like you were a fuckin frame of a micro-organism..fuck man you are a retard
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Not to take anything away from them. But…
I saw the BFTO 05 & Their form was the Sloppiest I have ever seen.
Paul L.
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Not to take anything away from them. But…
I saw the BFTO 05 & Their form was the Sloppiest I have ever seen.
Paul L.
why don't you show what doing the proper form has done for your body. Maybe they will take notes