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Title: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: thisiskeith12 on September 11, 2006, 09:50:40 PM
"everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight!"

After listening to the show tonight I get that everyone wants change in bodybuilding, but nobody actually mans up and does any work. Everyone just whines and writes and talks about it. Hopefully change can't happen only once a year after the Olympia Press Conference?
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: adipo8 on September 12, 2006, 05:21:48 AM
"everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight!"

After listening to the show tonight I get that everyone wants change in bodybuilding, but nobody actually mans up and does any work. Everyone just whines and writes and talks about it. Hopefully change can't happen only once a year after the Olympia Press Conference?

Some one took it from him and it will happen again...
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: SteelePegasus on September 12, 2006, 05:38:05 AM
Some one took it from him and it will happen again...

Dude, why are posting that pic where Gunther is getting owned...seriously
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: bigmc on September 12, 2006, 05:44:19 AM
cormier is all over ronnie and gunter in that pic
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Dnizneer on September 12, 2006, 06:00:44 AM
cormier is all over ronnie and gunter in that pic

guess he chose the wrong pic to try and prove his point.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: adipo8 on September 12, 2006, 06:12:45 AM
Not trying to show pictures - trying to remind you it has happened before.  Calm down - no one is bashing your crown KING of muscle. Just reminding you #6 beat him .... It was a wake up call and it was a KNOCKOUT

 This is more like how Lenox lewis figured out how to beat Mike tyson - he studied the buster fight - FEEL ME ?

Attention ALL IFBB PROS COMPETING IN THE O < except king>

Ronnie is Beatable , If you are Bigger, more seperated and harder < Taller does not hurt>

TRUE STORY -  however you make one mistake - and he will destroy you .....  REAL STORY

Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: JasonH on September 12, 2006, 06:34:20 AM
Yes, I keep forgetting that Ronnie hasn't been completely unbeaten in his tenure as Mr Olympia. It calls into question his dominance in the sport compared to the records of Dorian and Haney. Gunther definitely deserved to win that night though.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Adam Empire on September 12, 2006, 10:16:47 AM
I think we all know Ronnie should have lost to Cutler in the 2001 O as well...
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Jr. Yates on September 12, 2006, 11:08:06 AM
I think we all know Ronnie should have lost to Cutler in the 2001 O as well...
very debatable. but Ronnie was a little off and Cutler was a little more on. maybe by 4 rice cakes and 3 oz of water. ;)
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Adam Empire on September 12, 2006, 11:10:24 AM
very debatable. but Ronnie was a little off and Cutler was a little more on. maybe by 4 rice cakes and 3 oz of water. ;)

and 2 oz orange roughy.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: the shadow on September 12, 2006, 11:15:29 AM
very debatable. but Ronnie was a little off and Cutler was a little more on. maybe by 4 rice cakes and 3 oz of water. ;)
MONSTER RETARDED POST JACKASS
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Jr. Yates on September 12, 2006, 12:10:15 PM
MONSTER RETARDED POST JACKASS
sorry man. i was just joking around.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: BigWhoop on September 12, 2006, 12:14:47 PM
Gunter is a very marketable Mr. Olympia waiting in the wings!
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: HERACLES on September 12, 2006, 01:13:31 PM
cormier is all over ronnie and gunter in that pic

I so dont think so. Actually tha tpic favors Gunther.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Hulkster on September 12, 2006, 01:55:14 PM
Quote
It calls into question his dominance in the sport compared to the records of Dorian and Haney.

no it doesn't- few people actually think Dorian deserved to beat Ray in 1994 (dorian was outclassed in every feature with the exception of lats and overall size)

and many feel that Haney did not deserve to win in 1990.

The only difference between these and Ronnie/Gunter is that for the first time ever (in order to sell tickets to the Olympia) the judges actually gave the win to the challenger and not the champ.  Normally, this would never have happened.

But they had to sell tickets and hype the PPV, so it did.

But:

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2002/soscomp37.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_1_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_2_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_4_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_9_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_5_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_11_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_10_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_8_1.jpg)
should it have? I think not. Ronnie owning Gunter in all these shots.

Gunter was bigger. Not better. If anything, Chris could have beaten Ronnie (it was close because Ronnie was small and way off) and Gunter should have been third.

I have never bought into the whole "big blocky guy beats far superior in most ways but smaller" more shapely guy argument.


Bodybuilding should be judged on physical characteristics (of muscle) not physical size and stature.

ie:

this

(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy26.jpg)

should never have beaten this:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74007.0;attach=81161;image)
just because of a physical size difference.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: ether on September 12, 2006, 03:24:22 PM
All of those pics illustrate 2 things.

1. Cormier is the one who should have won that show, Ronnie second, Gunter third.

2. Doesn't matter what year it is, there is always a fat bloated retard in the background.

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2002/soscomp37.jpg)
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Hulkster on September 12, 2006, 03:29:09 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Hulkster on September 12, 2006, 03:30:48 PM
I agree it was close between ronnie and chris.

Can some Cormier guru fill me in:

Has Chris ever looked better than he did here?

looks like possible career best to me.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Stavios on September 12, 2006, 03:34:31 PM
Cormier look off in those pics, he is getting owned by gunter and Ron
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Hulkster on September 12, 2006, 03:40:40 PM
Cormier look off in those pics, he is getting owned by gunter and Ron

I thought he looks really good?
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: fearANDloathing on September 13, 2006, 08:21:21 AM
Yes, I keep forgetting that Ronnie hasn't been completely unbeaten in his tenure as Mr Olympia. It calls into question his dominance in the sport compared to the records of Dorian and Haney. Gunther definitely deserved to win that night though.
8 consecutive Olympia wins and being the biggest Mr O ever should leave no questions about  R.C's dominance!
You fuckers are somethin else >:(
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: bigmc on September 13, 2006, 08:26:11 AM
8 consecutive Olympia wins and being the biggest Mr O ever should leave no questions about  R.C's dominance!
You fuckers are somethin else >:(

Anger management issues

Cormier has the best balance and no weaknesses
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: bmacsys on September 13, 2006, 08:39:52 AM
"everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight!"


Monster ebonics.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: bmacsys on September 13, 2006, 08:44:41 AM

 This is more like how Lenox lewis figured out how to beat Mike tyson - he studied the buster fight - FEEL ME ?


No, 100% wrong there. Lennox wisely waited till Tyson was a shadow of his former self to fight him in 2004. Lennox went  pro after winning the Gold in the 1988 Olympics. Had he fought Tyson in 1989 Lennox may have gotten his ass handed to him like everybody else did.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: bigmc on September 13, 2006, 09:01:35 AM
No, 100% wrong there. Lennox wisely waited till Tyson was a shadow of his former self to fight him in 2004. Lennox went  pro after winning the Gold in the 1988 Olympics. Had he fought Tyson in 1989 Lennox may have gotten his ass handed to him like everybody else did.

The truth

Lewis avoided tyson like the plague in his early career tyson would have knocked him out, 1st round probably

Tyson was a shell when he fought Lewis
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: RJB on September 13, 2006, 09:08:42 AM
cormier is all over ronnie and gunter in that pic

tru. Cormier is eating both of them alive in that pic.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Adam Empire on September 13, 2006, 09:09:34 AM
Though the pics of Kamali as from far away - his gut is so noticably smaller and better in these pics, it's unbelieveable.  He ruined himself.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Jr. Yates on September 13, 2006, 03:44:49 PM
Though the pics of Kamali as from far away - his gut is so noticably smaller and better in these pics, it's unbelieveable.  He ruined himself.
no doubt. I remember when he first started getting in mags...my boss said this guy will go no where. I laughed and said how do you know that?? Looks like he was right.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: thisiskeith12 on September 13, 2006, 03:50:37 PM
Monster ebonics.

Monster grammar.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Big N on September 13, 2006, 03:55:02 PM
no it doesn't- few people actually think Dorian deserved to beat Ray in 1994 (dorian was outclassed in every feature with the exception of lats and overall size)

and many feel that Haney did not deserve to win in 1990.

The only difference between these and Ronnie/Gunter is that for the first time ever (in order to sell tickets to the Olympia) the judges actually gave the win to the challenger and not the champ.  Normally, this would never have happened.

But they had to sell tickets and hype the PPV, so it did.

But:

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2002/soscomp37.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_1_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_2_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_4_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_9_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_5_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_11_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_10_1.jpg)
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/351_8_1.jpg)
should it have? I think not. Ronnie owning Gunter in all these shots.

Gunter was bigger. Not better. If anything, Chris could have beaten Ronnie (it was close because Ronnie was small and way off) and Gunter should have been third.

I have never bought into the whole "big blocky guy beats far superior in most ways but smaller" more shapely guy argument.


Bodybuilding should be judged on physical characteristics (of muscle) not physical size and stature.

ie:

this

(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy26.jpg)

should never have beaten this:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74007.0;attach=81161;image)
just because of a physical size difference.

Stop showing a picture of AN asshole bro



peace
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: El_Spiko on September 13, 2006, 03:58:40 PM
tru. Cormier is eating both of them alive in that pic.
I think Cormier looks noticably less conditioned than Ronnie and Gunther. Especially on all the back shots, Ronnie and Gunther are obviously better conditioned than Cormier.

From the back I think Ronnie looks slightly better in these pics, but I think Gunther has him in side and front poses, particularly in abs & thigh and side triceps. Ronnie looks less conditioned in the front, giving that up to Gunther, and his side triceps has been weak in the past IMO.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: delta9mda on September 13, 2006, 09:20:50 PM
8 consecutive Olympia wins and being the biggest Mr O ever should leave no questions about  R.C's dominance!
You fuckers are somethin else >:(
he got beat while being mr o.  :P
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: In it 2 win it on September 14, 2006, 12:07:09 AM
I think The real deal should give up on professional bodybuilding and just be an old man.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 14, 2006, 12:09:55 AM
I think The real deal should give up on professional bodybuilding and just be an old man.

I agree it's been all down hill since 93
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: adipo8 on September 14, 2006, 05:17:24 AM
8 consecutive Olympia wins and being the biggest Mr O ever should leave no questions about  R.C's dominance!
You fuckers are somethin else >:(

But the great Ronnie - lost!
Dorian never lost on stage and neither did Haney

He is dominant and will always be Mr.O  - the point was that he is BEATABLE !
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: sammy1980 on September 14, 2006, 05:37:42 AM
cormier is better than ronnie and gunther in those pics.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: adipo8 on September 14, 2006, 05:50:15 AM
but smaller - a bigger man  has to  beat Ronnie
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: GoneAway on September 14, 2006, 06:17:19 AM
tru. Cormier is eating both of them alive in that pic.

Cormier loses to Coleman on back.
He loses to both on hams.
He beats both on calves.
All are equal on side tri.
Beats both on abs/thigh.
Loses to both on side chest.

Very hazy analysis there, but judging from those pics I wouldn't give it to Cormier.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: bmacsys on September 14, 2006, 06:25:58 AM
Though the pics of Kamali as from far away - his gut is so noticably smaller and better in these pics, it's unbelieveable.  He ruined himself.

Yeah but Kamali's arm looks absolutely tiny.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 14, 2006, 06:32:57 AM
No, 100% wrong there. Lennox wisely waited till Tyson was a shadow of his former self to fight him in 2004. Lennox went  pro after winning the Gold in the 1988 Olympics. Had he fought Tyson in 1989 Lennox may have gotten his ass handed to him like everybody else did.

wrong. lennox wanted him in in the 90's when he got out of prison, but don king didn't want to mess up his cash cow and paid lennox 4 mill step aside money so tyson could fight holyfield.

they underestimated the old man though and the rest is history.

ronnie should have said, "blah blah, but nobody wanna take truck loads of slin, gh, igf 1, steroids, t3, clenbuterol, dnp, synthol, implants, etc, etc, etc.

not that there's anything wrong with that.

and cormier should have done some fucking work in the squat rack!

Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Gordon_Gekko on September 16, 2006, 06:24:57 PM
wrong. lennox wanted him in in the 90's when he got out of prison, but don king didn't want to mess up his cash cow and paid lennox 4 mill step aside money so tyson could fight holyfield.

they underestimated the old man though and the rest is history.

No, not wrong. He was not the same fighter after he got out of prison (1994 or '95, I believe) as he was in 1989. Hell, he was not the same fighter in 1990 as he was circa '86-'89. If Lewis had fought Tyson after prison, he would not be fighting the same Tyson he would have faced in '89. Big, BIG difference. 
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Hulkster on September 16, 2006, 06:37:06 PM
he got beat while being mr o.  :P

and the only reason he did, was, as we can see from the pics I posted, to sell tickets. :-\
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: Hulkster on September 16, 2006, 06:39:16 PM
out of the pics I posted it looks like Chris beats Ronnie in the ab and thigh, but nothing else.

It looks like it should have been:

1. ronnie

2. Chris

3. Gunter

but then no one would have cared about the O. that year so Ronnie got shafted...
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: DragonsBreath on September 16, 2006, 07:26:11 PM
"everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight!"

After listening to the show tonight I get that everyone wants change in bodybuilding, but nobody actually mans up and does any work. Everyone just whines and writes and talks about it. Hopefully change can't happen only once a year after the Olympia Press Conference?

Dude, if your going to quote the man himself, then make sure you say it right!

"Evribady wanna be a bodybuilda, but don't nobady wanna liff no heavy-ass weight"












BUT ME............
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: airrick on September 16, 2006, 07:45:04 PM
All of those pics illustrate 2 things.

1. Cormier is the one who should have won that show, Ronnie second, Gunter third.

2. Doesn't matter what year it is, there is always a fat bloated retard in the background.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 17, 2006, 12:42:04 AM
ronnie kills cormier in legs, especially glutes, hams, lower back.

cormier needed more time in the squat rack and less time on the crack.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: ty100 on September 17, 2006, 06:09:21 PM
cormier is all over ronnie and gunter in that pic
i agree.
Title: Re: Take it from Ronnie
Post by: MCWAY on September 17, 2006, 06:15:27 PM
But the great Ronnie - lost!
Dorian never lost on stage and neither did Haney

He is dominant and will always be Mr.O  - the point was that he is BEATABLE !

Ummmm.....Both Dorian Yates and Lee Haney lost on stage. Haney placed third in his Olympia debut in 1983 to Mohammed Makkaway and Samir Bannout (winner). In '84, Haney won the title from Bannout and never looked back.

Only two men have defeated Dorian Yates on an IFBB stage: Mohammed Benaziza beat Yates at the 1990 Night of Champions; and, Haney beat Yates at Yates' first (and Haney's last) Olympia in 1991.